Hey Marketing Gurus I opened my own business, and I need some great ideas and help from you!

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I have just open my own cleaning business, we target the local office, to give them a regular office clean or one off clean.
Now we don't have any clients yet, we are really new to any marketing methods.

Our Target Clients: Local small to medium side office,

The Service we provide: General daily cleaning, weekly cleaning, or one off cleaning. including vacuum and mop floor, dusting and spotless clean tables and chairs, change rubbish bins, etc.

What do you think how should I market my business?

should I do flyers? send flyers to office?

or should I do office by office door knocking?

added questions(on 03-oct-2012):

How would you target small to medium business to gain their business if you were running a new cleaning company?

How would you find the "needs"?


Some More Feed back and Added Questions(on 06-oct-2012):

I have tried to call some offices in our city, I got the phone numbers from the Yellow Pages. Only made 10 calls, still calling, will give you result when I reach 100 calls.

Here are some questions that have come up during the Calling time, Please share advice:

When I tried to call up to some offices, there always is a receptionist, most of the time they don't really give me the chance to get through to who is in charge of hiring cleaners like a manager or a owner.
My question is any easy ways to get to the deciders? if i know their names that could help, but unfortunately I don't.
in my case what is the right thing to do?







Please share your awesome ideas, any idea will be really really thanked and appreciated!
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  • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
    Originally Posted by lbf200n View Post


    should I do flyers? send flyers to office?

    or should I do office by office door knocking?

    Please share your awesome ideas, any idea will be really really thanked and appreciated!
    All the above.

    I would also add in calling office managers on the phone, and offering a discount
    for testing your company out.
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  • Profile picture of the author bsbear
    Yeah do cold-calling mainly, be the sales man they want to buy from.

    Finally, invest in some geo-targeted/local SEO. If you rank for 'yourcitycleaning.com' you will get 99% of the local business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Baadier Sydow
    Chat to real estate agents about doing a commision based exchange on new home owners/arrivals. Alternatively, pay them per lead.
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  • Profile picture of the author maxrezn
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    The key here is you need clients "now". So how do we get clients right away? A lot depends on what you bring to the table.

    1. Why did you start a cleaning business? You likely had been doing this for a while working for someone else. What contacts did you build during your previous work that you can use today to get a client in the next hour?

    2. What services do you offer? For truly cold marketing this will determine who to target. If you are a one man show you wouldn't want to land a large manufacturer at this point unless it was for a small area such as cleaning their breakrooms or similar.

    3. Who are your target clients? You started a business because you saw a niche that needed filled didn't you? It's ok if you didn't a lot of people build a job vs. a business. What isn't ok is to keep thinking like that. If you don't have a target market, that niche that needs filled you need to seriously take time and think and find one. For example maybe you noticed when you worked for someone else that they were turning down small new businesses. Maybe you noticed that a lot of small business owners had to hire two cleaners, one for the office and one for home, because no one offered both services.

    If you need help with this I am sure many of us are willing to help but until you know who you will target and why you started this business none of our help will matter. And if you have already figured that out why didn't you ask, "How would you target ______ to gain their business if you were running a new cleaning company?"
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  • Profile picture of the author biz2mob
    Seo and Warm calling. Actually most here call it cold calling but if you have a warm heart its really warm and enjoyable. In your script the first thing you want to know is if they already have someone hired for cleaning. If they do, offer 2 weeks free on the condition that they recommend 5 others who may need your services. If you need a calling script ill create one for free. Good luck
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    • Profile picture of the author Irish Intuition
      Well, since I have done a lot with this exact type of business I
      can tell you most of the businesses you are after have someone.

      Now it becomes more about timing. I once secured a chain of car
      lots and a chain of grocery stores just by hitting at the right time.

      They happened to be disgruntled with their service providers and
      basically were just looking for a reason to ax them.

      NEVER use flyers, or postcards. I would be surprised if one gets
      read by a decision maker.

      Be creative. I like to use letters, but I also 'fish' on Linkedin. I've
      had good luck with email as well.... as long as you do it right.

      Realize that most of who you contact has a current cleaner. What
      frustrations can they be having because of that? Price? Shoddy
      service?... maybe even theft issues.

      I'd bring up and give them a solution to a few problems. Make
      your marketing work hard for you.
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      • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
        Originally Posted by Irish Intuition View Post

        NEVER use flyers, or postcards. I would be surprised if one gets
        read by a decision maker.
        I'm surprised to see you say not to use postcards? We did a postcard campaign for a roofing company in 3 major markets and it pulled in just over 600K in new business. That's residential though..

        I also have had great success with postcards. Every dollar spent brings in 10.
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        • Profile picture of the author lbf200n
          Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

          I'm surprised to see you say not to use postcards? We did a postcard campaign for a roofing company in 3 major markets and it pulled in just over 600K in new business. That's residential though..

          I also have had great success with postcards. Every dollar spent brings in 10.
          could you please share some more details on how to do the postcards marketing?
          did you have to post them out? or?
          if you did post them where to? and how would you find all the targeted receiver's address and names?
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        • Profile picture of the author Irish Intuition
          Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

          I'm surprised to see you say not to use postcards? We did a postcard campaign for a roofing company in 3 major markets and it pulled in just over 600K in new business. That's residential though..

          I also have had great success with postcards. Every dollar spent brings in 10.
          I have had a postcard mail to $500,000 homeowners and pull in $230,000
          in sales. Postcards have a place... B2B is not one of them.

          I had a client that sent postcards to property management companies
          and got $0 in sales. I did a letter, mailed to the same peeps, added
          a follow-up and sold a total of $98k. (the follow up was the key).

          Then again maybe it was just my magical keyboard
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      • Profile picture of the author lbf200n
        Originally Posted by Irish Intuition View Post

        Well, since I have done a lot with this exact type of business I
        can tell you most of the businesses you are after have someone.

        Now it becomes more about timing. I once secured a chain of car
        lots and a chain of grocery stores just by hitting at the right time.

        They happened to be disgruntled with their service providers and
        basically were just looking for a reason to ax them.

        Thanks for sharing.

        How did you introduce yourself and how did you successfully find the right man who is in-charge of hire cleaners?

        would you please give me some detail of specificity what would you say to them.

        Because I have never been in the sales before now my life made me have to do this, so I really needed your help.

        Thank you.
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    • Profile picture of the author lbf200n
      Originally Posted by biz2mob View Post

      Seo and Warm calling. Actually most here call it cold calling but if you have a warm heart its really warm and enjoyable. In your script the first thing you want to know is if they already have someone hired for cleaning. If they do, offer 2 weeks free on the condition that they recommend 5 others who may need your services. If you need a calling script ill create one for free. Good luck
      Hi Biz2mob,I would love to have one, are you able to create a door knocking script as well please?

      Please sent it to my email address or PM to me

      Great thank you to you!
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      • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
        Originally Posted by maxrezn View Post

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        I have to disagree. Cleaning services are already low margins, and craigslist is known for lowballing. There are a few exceptions obviously but cleaning services definitely shouldn't count on CL for work.

        To the OP: Hire a marketer, get someone that can actually help you. A professional. Clients of mine in that industry have a lot of success with PPC, but BNI and Chambers are pretty good as well. Direct mailing to businesses would be a good idea. If you do residential too, then look into EDDM and look up some of Bob Ross's stuff on the forum.
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        • Profile picture of the author lbf200n
          Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

          To the OP: Hire a marketer, get someone that can actually help you. A professional. Clients of mine in that industry have a lot of success with PPC, but BNI and Chambers are pretty good as well. Direct mailing to businesses would be a good idea. If you do residential too, then look into EDDM and look up some of Bob Ross's stuff on the forum.
          Could you please share a link of what you have mentioned in the post?
          Because we are just started and don't have too much budget atm, how much does a professional would cost us?

          Great thanks again
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        • Profile picture of the author Irish Intuition
          Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

          I have to disagree. Cleaning services are already low margins, and craigslist is known for lowballing. There are a few exceptions obviously but cleaning services definitely shouldn't count on CL for work.
          That would be incorrect. Most think that so I understand it.

          Price has rarely been an issue on craigslist (I know, it seems
          counter-intuitive).

          Perceptions are not always reality
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      • Profile picture of the author biz2mob
        Originally Posted by lbf200n View Post

        Hi Biz2mob,I would love to have one, are you able to create a door knocking script as well please?

        Please sent it to my email address or PM to me

        Great thank you to you!
        I'll pm you. I'll create your script after I get a few sales tomorrow As far as a door knocking script, I do all my sales over the phone. I use education based marketing, made famous by the late great Chet Holmes.
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        • Profile picture of the author lbf200n
          Originally Posted by biz2mob View Post

          I'll pm you. I'll create your script after I get a few sales tomorrow As far as a door knocking script, I do all my sales over the phone. I use education based marketing, made famous by the late great Chet Holmes.
          hey Biz2mob

          Have you got some time to write me a calling script yet?

          I have tried my own version of calling script, and it seems not working so well.

          Really need some your great help.
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          • Profile picture of the author ronilou
            To get around the receptionist, call on the weekends. Often the owners are there and the gatekeepers aren't. So guess who answers the phone? And if no one is there, leave a message with an offer too good to refuse, and then promise to follow-up the next business day.
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            • Profile picture of the author BitterBlossom
              I am so glad this thread was made. I am considering starting a business in the cleaning industry too. Especially parking lots. Cold calling is so discouraging though(never gotten a yes) and the same with door2door selling. Hopefully lurking on this forum a ton will help me learn enough to become successful.

              Thank you everyone for all of this information.
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  • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
    Commercial Real Estate agents could help make connections for you. I know a guy who just bought a four story office building and it took him a few weeks to get the cleaners running.

    Just remember to spend 80% of your time marketing and 20% of your time fulfilling. As soon as cleaning takes up time from your marketing, start hiring more people.
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  • Profile picture of the author umc
    I have my own cleaning business and have for 12+ years. We focus on residential, but have done commercial as well, and specialized in rentals for the first several years. I've also started a mobile auto detailing business, and ran that through many large businesses that I got to market my services to their employees. So, I know a little bit about this.

    If you're going for commercial work, I doubt that you will get much through Craigslist. I've picked up some great clients through Craigslist for residential, but I also brand and market my business to differentiate myself from the lowball cleaners that are probably just looking for a way into the homes of people to steal their meds and money, lol.

    Commercial is often picked up like Irish said above, by happening to go in to talk to a business at just the right time. Let's face it. If you actually show up, don't steal anything, and maybe even clean, you're doing better than a lot of cleaners out there. So, be prepared that the business that you enter in person may have someone already, but also know that they are probably unhappy in some way, so touch on those issues that are often problems and speak to your proficiency in those areas.

    Pick up an office in a building with many offices, and you might just start a chain reaction that gets you a bunch of work in one location.

    I've never had much success with any adwords campaigns or anything like that, for residential or commercial.

    Going in and talking to people face to face, building relationships by continuing to visit and being nice to the office staff and making your mark, is the best way to pick up commercial clients, in my opinion. Have marketing materials to leave with them.

    BNI could be beneficial. I've been invited many times but never needed the work so I didn't take them up on it. Just know the rules of BNI and what you need to do in order to remain an active participant.

    Building relationships with realtors can be beneficial, though I don't know how many would help you get commercial business. Maybe you could target commercial realtors. Don't forget about property management companies. They often take care of many properties and use contractors to do so, which may present openings for you.

    DON'T SELL YOURSELF ON PRICE ALONE WITH CRAZY LOW PRICES. Doing so is just a race to the bottom, and if a commercial facility goes with your services just because you're cheaper than their current guy, they will do the same to you when the next person comes and cuts the price five bucks.

    I personally hate commercial work and would rather have residential any day, but that's just me. Good luck with it. Oh, and be sure to have insurance and such, as you will be required to have it when getting most commercial jobs. In our area you must carry $1,000,000 in general liability to even be considered for most jobs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mwind076
    Just PM'd you with some information that'll help. The ideas here all outline a great start, but you need a firm plan and someone to help you implement it. While it's great that you want to do it yourself, too many people bite off more than they can chew and then drown. Be sure you think through things or have someone help you that knows marketing, before you shell out money for the "next big marketing tool."
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    The best thing to do is try a variety of things.

    Never put all of your marketing and advertorial eggs in one basket, even if it's WRECKING.

    Always diversify!

    You can split test things that are offline too.

    Have certain domains and subids for certain offline ads, to track where your leads are coming from.

    You can have great fun with offline ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author untappedrep
    Direct Marketing Kicks Major A$%

    Don't pay attention to all the people who have been spreading false noise about direct marketing being dead. Direct Marketing is alive and stronger then it's been for years.

    Just take a look at these posts:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...ll-action.html
    http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...vert-well.html
    http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...-do-today.html
    http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...cess-more.html
    http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...some-soul.html

    Cleaning service direct mail marketing and mailing lists are a cost effective way to introduce your cleaning service to potential customers. By combining a targeted mail list based on location, income and family structure, with a custom designed postcard or brochure describing your business services; you will be able to quickly build your client base while minimizing travel time between customers.

    Cold Calling

    Call every business in your target market and see if they have a a need for your services. It can't hurt and you are getting your name out by doing this. Chances are you could land some really great clients through cold calling. Just remember the results are in the numbers. Don't judge the results of your efforts until you have made more then 100 calls. I hate calling people without warming them up first. In some cases I like to send a postcard and then follow up with a "warm" phone call. You could send a email and use a email tracking system to achive the same affect. I think this post shows what tracking services work best: http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...ne-emails.html

    Website + PPC

    I think a good online marketing system would be to design a "pimp" landing page (I can help with that.) and direct traffic to using ppc, adleads, facebook ads... you get the point. You could convert the traffic by offer a call to action like " Call us today and get 25% off" You could add blog and write posts establishing yourself as a expert in your market. I would also capture emails and set it up where they receive the coupon via email after signing up. This will build you a targeted email list to market to in the future.

    I hope you find success in your market. Don't give up, market the hell out of your services and I am sure you will see results!
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by Irish Intuition View Post

      That would be incorrect. Most think that so I understand it.

      Price has rarely been an issue on craigslist (I know, it seems
      counter-intuitive).

      Perceptions are not always reality
      Numbers are not perception though. Perhaps we have different definitions of high and low margins.

      Originally Posted by Irish Intuition View Post

      I have had a postcard mail to $500,000 homeowners and pull in $230,000
      in sales. Postcards have a place... B2B is not one of them.

      I had a client that sent postcards to property management companies
      and got $0 in sales. I did a letter, mailed to the same peeps, added
      a follow-up and sold a total of $98k. (the follow up was the key).

      Then again maybe it was just my magical keyboard
      I have to completely disagree with you.

      That's a bad mailing. $230,000 gross - $130,000 from bulk mailing assuming you have a permit, + costs of postcards, + cost of forwards or bounces(add 6 cents each time), and cost of fulfillment. How much was Net'd from that? With that kind of mailing you're not even getting $2 from every $1 you spend.

      Postcards certainly do have their place in B2B. That has been one of my favorite tools especially in the last 6 months. Even an awful postcard mailing, sending 1K postcards and paying the 320 for first class postage you're almost getting $10 for every $1 you're spending.

      Your client sending the postcards, maybe didn't send enough, maybe it was just bad. Maybe they only did one round?

      Perhaps I just get lucky...
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    • Profile picture of the author lbf200n
      Hey Untapperdrep
      Great reply!
      Thanks for the great posts that you have linked to me, and I would definitely try the methods that you have mentioned.

      I would also like some help on building a wicked landing page, please PM me the details or just to my email: LBF200X a hotmail com (sorry the system don't allow me to post links atm)







      Originally Posted by untappedrep View Post

      Direct Marketing Kicks Major A$%

      I hope you find success in your market. Don't give up, market the hell out of your services and I am sure you will see results!....
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  • Profile picture of the author ambrking
    The best way to reach these prospects is through calling. You have to remember that your competitors are much bigger and more well known. You need to get on the phone to get clients. If you do not have time for this, you can always hire telemarketers that has experience calling for cleaning and janitorial companies.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kristenastewart
    1. Focus. Focus. Focus.
      Many first-time entrepreneurs feel the need to jump at every "opportunity" they come across. Opportunities are often wolves in sheep's clothing. Avoid getting side-tracked. Juggling multiple ventures will spread you thin and limit both your effectiveness and productivity. Do one thing perfectly, not 10 things poorly. If you feel the need to jump onto another project, that might mean something about your original concept.
    2. Know what you do. Do what you know.
      Don't start a business simply because it seems sexy or boasts large hypothetical profit margins and returns. Do what you love. Businesses built around your strengths and talents will have a greater chance of success. It's not only important to create a profitable business, it's also important that you're happy managing and growing it day in and day out. If your heart isn't in it, you will not be successful.
    3. Say it in 30 seconds or don't say it at all.
      From a chance encounter with an investor to a curious customer, always be ready to pitch your business. State your mission, service and goals in a clear and concise manner. Fit the pitch to the person. Less is always more.
    4. Know what you know, what you don't know and who knows what you don't.
      No one knows everything, so don't come off as a know-it-all. Surround yourself with advisors and mentors who will nurture you to become a better leader and businessman. Find successful, knowledgeable individuals with whom you share common interests and mutual business goals that see value in working with you for the long-term.
    5. Act like a startup.
      Forget about fancy offices, fast cars and fat expense accounts. Your wallet is your company's life-blood. Practice and perfect the art of being frugal. Watch every dollar and triple-check every expense. Maintain a low overhead and manage your cash flow effectively.
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  • Profile picture of the author devikap
    Hey good to know about this different type of business, I think you can mainly depend on flyers, Attractive newspaper adds, Discount deals and Online advertisements like through social media promotions for your business promotion.
    All the best and let us know how was the response.
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  • Profile picture of the author EnterIn
    Why not try buying an ad in your local news paper. I don't mean you have to buy a full page ad. You could get a classified ad and pay a bit more so that it's highlighted.

    But whatever ad you buy in your local newspaper, the key I think is to offer something Outrageous. For instance, you could offer a FREE simple service for the first 30 callers (or more if you are up to it). It's a great way to get customers fast.

    But don't just stop there. Give these 30 or more "fast action takers" a voucher that they can use to get 50% off your cleaning service if they hire you again within the next 30 days (if that's a good time frame for you).

    If you offer them service twice in quick succession they are likely to stay for good. So first time free, second time 50% discount.

    Also, you could write or have written a free report that goes something like "7 Questions You Should Ask Yourself Before You Hire a Cleaning Service" (I apologise if someone already uses this title). Offer that report for free in your local newspaper.

    It could be a digital report on a simple download page or a physical report. Just make sure you can use that title without infringing anyone's trademarks.

    This way you'll probably get many of the businesses who need cleaning services to ask for your report. Then of course you give them the 7 questions and let them know why you are the best at the end.

    I don't think any other cleaning company in your local area does this. I've done some consulting for a cleaning company so I know this would probably be foreign to most cleaning companies.

    Hope this helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author lbf200n
      Great Idea! but in my case, our local newspaper ads are around $3000/week for a half page ad. so i think i would try to use these great idea through flyers or to online internet promotion.

      I will have a try out and let you know the feed back few weeks later.

      Originally Posted by EnterIn View Post

      Why not try buying an ad in your local news paper. I don't mean you have to buy a full page ad. You could get a classified ad and pay a bit more so that it's highlighted.

      But whatever ad you buy in your local newspaper, the key I think is to offer something Outrageous. For instance, you could offer a FREE simple service for the first 30 callers (or more if you are up to it). It's a great way to get customers fast.

      But don't just stop there. Give these 30 or more "fast action takers" a voucher that they can use to get 50% off your cleaning service if they hire you again within the next 30 days (if that's a good time frame for you).

      If you offer them service twice in quick succession they are likely to stay for good. So first time free, second time 50% discount.

      Also, you could write or have written a free report that goes something like "7 Questions You Should Ask Yourself Before You Hire a Cleaning Service" (I apologise if someone already uses this title). Offer that report for free in your local newspaper.

      It could be a digital report on a simple download page or a physical report. Just make sure you can use that title without infringing anyone's trademarks.

      This way you'll probably get many of the businesses who need cleaning services to ask for your report. Then of course you give them the 7 questions and let them know why you are the best at the end.

      I don't think any other cleaning company in your local area does this. I've done some consulting for a cleaning company so I know this would probably be foreign to most cleaning companies.

      Hope this helps.
      Bruce
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  • Profile picture of the author Mwind076
    You've got tons of FREE advice here for people that usually charge to do scripts, set up marketing plans and carry them out for you. It's not odd that someone just shows up here with 10 one line posts to be able to send PM's, so if you want to stick around and continue to get advice, I suggest you start giving some helpful feedback in more posts. Don't just start a thread to get free products. They're onto that.

    For those here volunteering free things, I'm not saying this is a spammer, but check the background. Exactly 10 posts (that are one liners), then nothing. It's most likely someone that has no clue how to market looking for us to do the work for free. Advice is one thing, free stuff is another.
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    • Profile picture of the author untappedrep
      Originally Posted by Mwind076 View Post

      You've got tons of FREE advice here for people that usually charge to do scripts, set up marketing plans and carry them out for you. It's not odd that someone just shows up here with 10 one line posts to be able to send PM's, so if you want to stick around and continue to get advice, I suggest you start giving some helpful feedback in more posts. Don't just start a thread to get free products. They're onto that.

      For those here volunteering free things, I'm not saying this is a spammer, but check the background. Exactly 10 posts (that are one liners), then nothing. It's most likely someone that has no clue how to market looking for us to do the work for free. Advice is one thing, free stuff is another.
      You can see from the view count that far more people then the OP got good info from this post.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mwind076
        Originally Posted by untappedrep View Post

        You can see from the view count that far more people then the OP got good info from this post.
        I agree, and I'm not saying the OP wasn't truthful, but experience on here tells us otherwise I know that others don't have an issue helping, but it strikes a cord when people come here to only exploit that.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          I have a business friend who belongs to my Ohio Mastermind group. He cleaners offices and bathrooms for restaurants and commercial buildings.

          He did several tests. A series of postcards yielded a profit of about 3 times cost. (I think 4 or 5 postcards in a series)

          But then he called the prospects on the phone. Twice as many bought his service from 1 phone call than from the postcards. Although the postcards were definitely profitable.

          But phone calls from the owner of one company...to the owner of another company.... moves mountains. His offer was to clean one restroom for free. more than 80% (I don't remember the exact %) of the people that agreed to that..signed up for a contract of at least a year.
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          • Profile picture of the author lbf200n
            Thanks for sharing the great successful story.

            When I tried to call up to some offices, there always is receptionist, most of the time they don't really give me the chance to get through to who is in charge of hiring cleaners like a manager or a owner.
            My question is any easy ways to get to the deciders? if i know their names that could help, but unfortunately I don't.



            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            I have a business friend who belongs to my Ohio Mastermind group. He cleaners offices and bathrooms for restaurants and commercial buildings.

            He did several tests. A series of postcards yielded a profit of about 3 times cost. (I think 4 or 5 postcards in a series)

            But then he called the prospects on the phone. Twice as many bought his service from 1 phone call than from the postcards. Although the postcards were definitely profitable.

            But phone calls from the owner of one company...to the owner of another company.... moves mountains. His offer was to clean one restroom for free. more than 80% (I don't remember the exact %) of the people that agreed to that..signed up for a contract of at least a year.
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    • Profile picture of the author lbf200n
      Thanks for the advise Mwind076

      i would try my best to give more feed backs and let you guys know did i go on all these great ideas.


      Originally Posted by Mwind076 View Post

      You've got tons of FREE advice here for people that usually charge to do scripts, set up marketing plans and carry them out for you. It's not odd that someone just shows up here with 10 one line posts to be able to send PM's, so if you want to stick around and continue to get advice, I suggest you start giving some helpful feedback in more posts. Don't just start a thread to get free products. They're onto that.

      For those here volunteering free things, I'm not saying this is a spammer, but check the background. Exactly 10 posts (that are one liners), then nothing. It's most likely someone that has no clue how to market looking for us to do the work for free. Advice is one thing, free stuff is another.
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  • Profile picture of the author lbf200n
    I have updated some feedbacks in the OP after a little try out of the tel marketing method, and I have wrote the new questions that i have meet in the post too, please kindly give some advice.
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  • One thing that you want to do is network! Go to the local chamber of commerce and find out where the business owners hang out in town. Network and you will get some leads! Also go to linkedin and search for business owners in your town. That's a great way to get around the gatekeeper.
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  • Profile picture of the author ownergolan
    You should test as much ways that you can, split test these and see which one has the best ROI, then its natural to continue with these..

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