Is it my first WSO or is it just an ad? JD, Jason, Ken, iAMnameless???

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The time has come...I have given lots of advice here and I'm now asking for help!

Behind the scenes we've been working on a mentoring program for ANY business that needs customers (SEO, websites, cleaners, restaurants, insurance agents), more of a hands on than the consulting we've been doing. It has been about a month in the making. We are finally to a point that we have an ebook, and a "program" however I need some real people to test it out and give THEIR input on what's missing, what they would like added, or what we can do to make it a concrete program. I don't want to sell something and hear that it needs _____ or "I wish it had included _____."

So, I typed up what I thought was a WSO, but then realized...it's the WSO before the WSO? This is where I need help. I don't want to put something out as a WSO that isn't done. Can I put it out here for some help and reviews on the content? Problem is I'm charging because it involves calling, and information. I'm just charging at half of what it's worth, since it's not the full program and isn't done. Does charging for it make it a WSO?

If so, can I just list it in the Warriors looking for help? Should I just use word of mouth and post here the type of people I'm looking for and how much?

I don't want to post the copy here because I don't want to get flagged for "putting the info out without paying for an ad." Basically, for the half price (of what all this normally costs) we'll be offering an ebook, cold calling blocks (40 hours in 2, 20 hour blocks), phone consultations (10 hours total) and mentoring above and beyond that. We'll be asking for input, doing questionnaires before and after to gauge what people know, expect to learn, and what they learn, and we'll be asking for LOTS of opinions and feedback as they are reviewing our services. I'm looking for a set amount of people to get a good cross-section of feedback, and I'm not going to do this again, so it's not a WSO that you will see for the next 2 years in the forum. You will see the finished product as a permanent fixture.

I was also thinking that it won't really be a WSO even when it's done, unless I drop the normal pricing.

The finished product will be put on our FB page, website that will be up this week, and here for Warriors...so the finished product will be a product we offer to everyone, not just warriors.

This is the first time I feel like I have zero clue. Help me out please, I want to get this up today, and we want to put the program out within 2 weeks.

Is it a WSO, an ad, or what?! To be clear, we're developing a mentoring program...and I want Warriors to help me tweak it for release. Is THAT a WSO?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Makarski
    Methiks you can always put it out there as a WSO, limit the number of licenses / copies available, and explain that it's a beta version. Then relaunch it as a later date as a full version with testimonials etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mwind076
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      • Profile picture of the author Alex Makarski
        I'm not sure if I'm qualified to interpret the rule of the forum in this particular case. However, you can throw $40 at it, let it show up in the WSO thread and then you won't have to wonder if it's a WSO or not.

        I released one last week and it's a free one so...is that a WSO? Sure, why not? I am working on a better / faster / slicker version of that and it's going to be a paid WSO at some point. And for now, it's a good used for my $40.

        Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mwind076
    I could do that, I was going to do that, then I read all the WSO rules and couldn't decide if what I was going to do was going to get pulled, or if I could do what I wanted to without having to worry about all the rules because it wasn't a WSO.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Durham
      Lots of questions here, let me re read a couple of times and I will try to answer. Congrats on finally getting something put together.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mwind076
        Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

        Lots of questions here, let me re read a couple of times and I will try to answer. Congrats on finally getting something put together.
        This "offer before the offer" hit me at 6 am...I've been waiting for you to get on!

        You also have a PM with the "deets" - so you are 1 up on everyone else here. I wait with anticipation.
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        • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
          Originally Posted by Mwind076 View Post

          This "offer before the offer" hit me at 6 am...I've been waiting for you to get on!

          You also have a PM with the "deets" - so you are 1 up on everyone else here. I wait with anticipation.
          john you got her covered bro?

          I have lots to say, but no real need to if ... you already have.

          @ Mwind076
          I like the cut of your jib I will PM you my private skype.
          if you ever need a hand, ill help.
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          • Profile picture of the author John Durham
            Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

            john you got her covered bro?

            I have lots to say, but no real need to if ... you already have.
            Go for it, you are better than me at this. I write good offline reports but Im not near the online marketer you are. Will still offer my two cents, but your advice is even more valuable.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mwind076
    Shall I PM the the "offer" - I'm dying here, wanna post it somewhere but need to know if it's an ad or a WSO. You people are killing me!
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    • Profile picture of the author John Durham
      Originally Posted by Mwind076 View Post

      Shall I PM the the "offer" - I'm dying here, wanna post it somewhere but need to know if it's an ad or a WSO. You people are killing me!
      Dont post before its time.... If you post it somewhere else you can blow your potential for a WSO....Because of who you are and how you are, I know it will do well.... Dont be too anxious. Give it twenty four hours and do it right.


      I know its burning in you though. lol
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    • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
      Originally Posted by Mwind076 View Post

      Shall I PM the the "offer" - I'm dying here, wanna post it somewhere but need to know if it's an ad or a WSO. You people are killing me!
      I am on the phones, i cant really help @ all until after 3 ish est.

      If you can contain your excitement for a few hours, ill
      see what you have, and get you pointed in the correct direction.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Durham
        Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

        I am on the phones, i cant really help @ all until after 3 ish est.

        If you can contain your excitement for a few hours, ill
        see what you have, and get you pointed in the correct direction.
        Same here Mwind, just came in here to touch base real quick, but in the throes of the work day.... If you can hold it in for just a few hours , am looking forward to checking it out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mwind076
    I do not do patience well...Ken, please PM me your email and I'll send over what I need you to look at and wait for your reply.

    JD - since you have it, any input you have would be appreciated. I've already tweaked a few things. Took it from 6 to 4 - the Mr. said "I don't have 60 hours in a week plus finishing it!" Oops.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Durham
      Originally Posted by Mwind076 View Post

      I do not do patience well...Ken, please PM me your email and I'll send over what I need you to look at and wait for your reply.

      JD - since you have it, any input you have would be appreciated. I've already tweaked a few things. Took it from 6 to 4 - the Mr. said "I don't have 60 hours in a week plus finishing it!" Oops.
      Just off the top of my head, without having went over your thoughts too diligently just yet, I can give you some encouragement in the meantime, and tell you that you are DUE for a wso that will do well and blow up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mwind076
    I think I'm doing the newbie thing and second guessing when I know the answers. What is it I said the other day? Go big or go home? I need to take my own advice.
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    • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
      Originally Posted by Mwind076 View Post

      Go big or go home? I need to take my own advice.
      awesome... just don't do either until you talk to me.
      im out ttys
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  • Profile picture of the author Mwind076
    So, we may not have to do a WSO...I already have PM's and emails asking to do it
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  • Profile picture of the author bob ross
    I'll probably promote it for you if it's good.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mwind076
      Originally Posted by bob ross View Post

      I'll probably promote it for you if it's good.
      Right now I'm working on getting it out hence the reason for the "helpers" I'm looking for. I'd love to have you be one of them, or you can wait and purchase it when it's done!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Without seeing the copy, ie. what your offer is, I can't tell you anything. Sent you a PM.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mwind076
    Ok, more help? The ad is up and they put it in the "Members looking to hire you section" not the "Warriors for hire"- so I messaged admin and asked for it to be moved...we aren't looking to hire anyone!

    Also, can I put it in my sig - it's only for 2 days?

    http://www.warriorforum.com/wanted-m...-48-hours.html
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    • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
      Originally Posted by Mwind076 View Post

      Ok, more help? The ad is up and they put it in the "Members looking to hire you section" not the "Warriors for hire"- so I messaged admin and asked for it to be moved...we aren't looking to hire anyone!

      Also, can I put it in my sig - it's only for 2 days?

      http://www.warriorforum.com/wanted-m...-48-hours.html

      YES.

      P.S.
      Kill the disclaimer. It detracts from your offer
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  • Profile picture of the author Mwind076
    Done...and thank you...I'm excited to get some people going!
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  • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
    anytime

    your sig is confusing to me...

    do you want them to go your Facebook page... or your offer ?

    because i click on the bottom link, and i am directed to your FB page.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mwind076
    Fixing, not sure what happened there?

    Got it fixed, why won't it show up as "[OFFLINE]...."
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  • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
    works properly now... God Speed !
    ( because i only believe in the luck we each create )
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