Im 20 and I drive a 40k USD mustang - Is this good or bad for my image?

by misc92
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Im 20, I drive a 40k USD mustang 2013. (this is in latin america, but feel free to comment your opinion in the US market)

Generally people like it and compliment it, however im not sure if using it as my "business car" is a good idea. As in driving it to business meetings, etc.

I see atleast this two possible scenarios:
- My client thinks im too expensive/overcharging him
- My client perceives me as a top level service provider because he assumes i deliver good value if Im driving such car.

My current client base is small and medium sized businesses offering services ranging from web design to social media management

So essentially, do you think I should use it to drive to my business meetings or get a car with a lower-profile?? What would be your perception of me if I arrive to the business meeting in a less-expensive car vs my current car?
#40k #bad #drive #good #image #mustang #usd
  • Profile picture of the author 100k
    Why don't you go out and find out and report back on your findings -_-.

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    • Profile picture of the author mgoddo
      And I drive a 60k corvette ... So what's your point? Stop worrying about what you drive and just provide value to your client. Your putting too much focus on vanity instead of just focusing on what's important and that's the client.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    This "thread" is bad for your image.
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    • Profile picture of the author misc92
      Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

      This "thread" is bad for your image.
      My clients wont see this thread John Durham.

      I appreciate the advice of the members of this forum but I dont make money of them by selling WSOs or similar services so my image in here isnt nearly as important as it is outside, in the offline world, with my clients $$.
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    Go ask your clients?
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  • Profile picture of the author Brennen Noble
    I don't know how it is in latin america, but here nobody would really care simply for the fact that it's a mustang. Mustangs are like mosquitos here.

    Me? C6 Corvette, BMW 750Li, 2013 Harley... my clients tend to take me seriously. However, it's really all in how you brand yourself. My 'offline' clients see me in a very specific light because of the way I do things, and I am very protective of that image.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by Brennen Noble View Post

      Me? C6 Corvette, BMW 750Li, 2013 Harley... my clients tend to take me seriously. However, it's really all in how you brand yourself. My 'offline' clients see me in a very specific light because of the way I do things, and I am very protective of that image.
      Then what car are you proudly rockin in, in your avatar picture? From the inside I know it isn't a corvette, and it definitely isn't any type of BMW. Looks like the inside of a ford focus maybe.

      Anyway... if your clients take you seriously because of what you drive, then they are lame clients.

      Know why my clients see me in a specific light? Because I get results for them. Know what the #1 thing people care about? Is whether you can solve a problem for them, save them money, or make them more money. They don't care if you take a bus, ride in a broken down car or truck, or rollin up in a lambo. It doesn't matter.

      Those that get caught up in petty stuff like this don't get taken seriously.

      Misc92... Be YOU.. It doesn't matter if your drive a mustang or ride a barbie bike. If you have something of value to offer, your clients or potential clients, will respond.
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      • Profile picture of the author Brennen Noble
        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        Then what car are you proudly rockin in, in your avatar picture? From the inside I know it isn't a corvette, and it definitely isn't any type of BMW. Looks like the inside of a ford focus maybe.

        Anyway... if your clients take you seriously because of what you drive, then they are lame clients.
        I don't usually feel the need to validate myself in such a fashion, but given the completely uncalled for nature of your response I'm just gonna go with it.



        See that thing in the rear passenger window? It's a retracting sun-shade. Find me a ford focus that has that. Here's another angle.



        Don't forget the vette! You can ask Ben @ POF about it too if you'd like, he's seen it in person.


        I don't appreciate being called a liar, especially for no reason.

        The sad thing is that I was saying the exact same thing you are. I noted my vehicles as a compare and contrast on how my clients view me in relation to the question at hand, and went on to say that my clients see me in a certain light because of the way I DO THINGS. I didn't say because of the cars I drive. Yeah I could have elaborated on how I go in and shake things up, get results, revolutionize a business, but why?

        When I speak of being protective of the image, I'm not talking about keeping up appearances. I acquire many of my clients due to my reputation for making things happen and solving problems of any type in any market. That is the image I am protective of.

        Anything else?
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        • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
          I could tell that you were in the BMW 750 easy peasy! Why? Because I also own a 750 iL. The back seat center section gives it away. lol

          Originally Posted by Brennen Noble View Post

          I don't usually feel the need to validate myself in such a fashion, but given the completely uncalled for nature of your response I'm just gonna go with it.



          See that thing in the rear passenger window? It's a retracting sun-shade. Find me a ford focus that has that. Here's another angle.



          Don't forget the vette! You can ask Ben @ POF about it too if you'd like, he's seen it in person.


          I don't appreciate being called a liar, especially for no reason.

          The sad thing is that I was saying the exact same thing you are. I noted my vehicles as a compare and contrast on how my clients view me in relation to the question at hand, and went on to say that my clients see me in a certain light because of the way I DO THINGS. I didn't say because of the cars I drive. Yeah I could have elaborated on how I go in and shake things up, get results, revolutionize a business, but why?

          When I speak of being protective of the image, I'm not talking about keeping up appearances. I acquire many of my clients due to my reputation for making things happen and solving problems of any type in any market. That is the image I am protective of.

          Anything else?
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        • Profile picture of the author marketeers
          Originally Posted by Brennen Noble View Post

          I don't usually feel the need to validate myself in such a fashion, but given the completely uncalled for nature of your response I'm just gonna go with it.



          See that thing in the rear passenger window? It's a retracting sun-shade. Find me a ford focus that has that. Here's another angle.



          Don't forget the vette! You can ask Ben @ POF about it too if you'd like, he's seen it in person.


          I don't appreciate being called a liar, especially for no reason.

          The sad thing is that I was saying the exact same thing you are. I noted my vehicles as a compare and contrast on how my clients view me in relation to the question at hand, and went on to say that my clients see me in a certain light because of the way I DO THINGS. I didn't say because of the cars I drive. Yeah I could have elaborated on how I go in and shake things up, get results, revolutionize a business, but why?

          When I speak of being protective of the image, I'm not talking about keeping up appearances. I acquire many of my clients due to my reputation for making things happen and solving problems of any type in any market. That is the image I am protective of.

          Anything else?
          Oh that was epic lol! Love when people being a smart ass back fires..congrats on the rides..
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    • Profile picture of the author John Durham
      Originally Posted by Brennen Noble View Post

      I don't know how it is in latin america, but here nobody would really care simply for the fact that it's a mustang. Mustangs are like mosquitos here.

      Me? C6 Corvette, BMW 750Li, 2013 Harley... my clients tend to take me seriously. However, it's really all in how you brand yourself. My 'offline' clients see me in a very specific light because of the way I do things, and I am very protective of that image.
      Brennan, sweet taste in rides man. Very nice set. You covered both ends of the spectrum with a tasteful class. I like your style, you must work very hard for that. Congrats.

      I dont think it matters to customers as much, even though it does a little, but it says to me that you are a hard worker. Cheers to you, you deserve it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Elluminati
    No offense, but a Mustang is not like a Maserati, Buggati, Lambo, or Ferrari. I don't own any of the latter either, but my offline clients could care less if I'm in my luxury whip or my A-to-B ride. I take care of them and that's all they're concerned about. Hell, if I was walking they'd give me a ride.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jacob Anthony
    I'm going to be honest here too:

    For most offline business owners it's not about the car you drive, but about the custom and performance you drive for their business. They don't care if you drive an old banger or a Beemer as long as you bring them value and profit.
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  • Profile picture of the author 300SMG
    IAmNameLess hits it right on the head. What does it matter what car you drive or don't drive. Clients care about THEIR results and what car THEY can drive because of your efforts at making them money. When I first started in business, I drove a 10 year old Lincoln and today I drive a 2012 Cadillac SRX and in between I drove a beat up minivan and 2 year old JEEP. During that time, you know how many clients and would-be clients asked me about my choice of transportation? None. Get them results as promised, or better yet above what you promise and you can float in on a hovercraft for all they care.
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  • Profile picture of the author SJJPFTW
    Agreed with Iamnameless and 300SMG. At the monent I drive a 2007 Sonata because I like it. Is great on fuel. Has leather. Full electrics. Sunroof. It's great In the past I have driven everything from $3000 rust buckets to a brand spanking HSV.

    Most of my clients never see my car. They see me as the customers and money I can make for them. THAT is the most important thing you can show clients.
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    • Profile picture of the author marketeers
      Originally Posted by SJJPFTW View Post

      Agreed with Iamnameless and 300SMG. At the monent I drive a 2007 Sonata because I like it. Is great on fuel. Has leather. Full electrics. Sunroof. It's great In the past I have driven everything from $3000 rust buckets to a brand spanking HSV.

      Most of my clients never see my car. They see me as the customers and money I can make for them. THAT is the most important thing you can show clients.
      Dude i dont think they will know what a hsv is over in america its only aussie thing, i think there equivalent is the corvette or pontiacs
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      • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
        Originally Posted by marketeers View Post

        Dude i dont think they will know what a hsv is over in america its only aussie thing, i think there equivalent is the corvette or pontiacs
        the aussie comode is the us pontiac from memory or one of those cars

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  • Profile picture of the author SJJPFTW
    Just do what I do bro. Park in a car park and walk to the client no offense was ment and I hope none was taken. You don't have to prove anything to anyone on here, just your clients and yourself. keep you and them happy and who cares what anyone else thinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author evilsaigon
    I'd say the car is more likely to make you look good as someone who has been successful in his business. Clients judge whether your product or service is overpriced based on your price and you've communicated its value to them.

    The car still shouldn't make much difference in reality. It crafts a good first impression to help you set the ball rolling, but after that it's really up to how you market yourself.
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    • Profile picture of the author 1byte
      What a silly thread! :rolleyes:

      Who cares what kind of car you drive anyway? Nobody cares!

      All your clients really care about is what kind of results you get for them, period. If you're making money for them, or getting them the kind of results they want, you could hop on a Pogo Stick to work and they wouldn't think anything about it.

      Well maybe a little...
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  • Profile picture of the author iScotts
    I dont understand how/why this thread has gone left.. This I feel was a genuine question. Whats with the rude responses? Anyway I dont drive any of those cars YET.. So i dont know. But I figure what it says to them is, that you CLEARLY get clients for whatever you charge which is a good thing. Because lets be honest they probably wouldn't give you a chance if you drove some non-road worthy , 1998 vehicle anyway
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    The kind of car your lease doesn't tell people much about you. It tells them how into status you are and how much relative debt you have, but that's about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marvin Johnston
    I think most of the responses here are based on their own culture rather than where you live. That isn't marketing. Your culture may or may not be different.

    That said, I agree that you need to talk to other consultants in your area who are in similar positions. It would be hard for me to take advice from from someone seriously unless they were in a similar situation to mine.

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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    Haha. Remind me never to contact iamnameless if I buy a car.

    If there is one thing I've accepted about life, its that men like cars and like to talk about cars, and will find an excuse to talk about cars regardless if the earth stopped spinning.

    Like my friend never shuts up about his car (won't mention the model cause I drive a civic and am frugal with my cash). Anyway, the kid said his "clients take him seriously" and although people are arguing with it, thats social conditioning for you. You can't deny it exists and that its very strong.

    But like people said, park in the back. What you really should do, is find out more info about your clients. If they are doing well in their business, I'd park the car right in front. If they're not doing that good, I'd park the car in the back. Lets be serious. But certain types of people get jealous fast. Thats also human nature.

    Cars are a status symbol, but I don't really give a crap about status. I think social status is a disease in America, and responsible for half the problems we are in today.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      My wife and I both drive PT Cruisers. I'm middle aged, don't care about impressing young girls, and feel no need to impress clients with my cars.

      The only time it's ever come up was when I was speaking to a group of car repair shop owners. They looked at me like I said I ran a brothel. Human nature is funny.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    Are you presenting in the parking lot? If not they are not even likely to notice.

    Are you afraid you are not showing value in your products so the potential clients will see the car and think you are ripping them off? If this is the problem you need to rethink the problem. Here's a hint it is not the car.

    As a car guy let me tell you some things I have learned over the years.
    1. Drive a car you love. Don't drive something to impress. I love sports cars and always have. Corvettes are my affordable favorites.
    2. A certain group of people will always think your car is more expensive and harder to buy than it is. I've had people in cars nearly the double the price of mine ask how I afford a vette (including the one I got for $10k). The point is you learn to get over it.
    3. The vast majority of people honestly don't care what you drive. They are not car people. This is the same as houses. Some people have really big houses because they like them. Someone like me could give a crap about their house. So unless the people are into cars or you drive like an asshat I doubt the vast majority will even car.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Aaron Doud View Post

      Are you presenting in the parking lot? If not they are not even likely to notice.
      That's pretty funny.
      Maybe if I was 25 years old, and didn't own a really nice home, it would matter to me. In fact, even the home doesn't matter, because I never invite a client there.

      And I can't remember ever inviting a client for a drive.

      I will admit however, that when I was hiring salespeople, their car made a difference. Not the model, or even how old it was...but if it was rusted out, and had trash piled up on the floor, it made an impression. And it wasn't a good one.

      And the only reason it mattered then, was that they were driving out to people's homes to give a presentation...and it made an impression on the customer.
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  • Profile picture of the author KrystenRae
    You can tell a lot about a person by the car that they drive. I think it is very important to drive a nice car to meet with clients, because it gives the perception that you are doing well for yourself in business, and therefore will create success for your clients as well. Driving a beater screams "failure" or "start up" to most clients. Moreover, a clean car is an indication of conscientiousness, which is a very important quality to possess in business as well. Aside from the "value" of your car, the "type" of car you drive indicates things about your personality as well; driving a classy car versus driving a sports car can speak volumes about the type of image you are trying to represent.
    My question is this: why are you worried about giving off the impression that your services are too expensive? Wouldn't you rather deal with clients who will pay you top dollar for your services? Just my two cents
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    • Profile picture of the author misc92
      Originally Posted by KrystenRae View Post

      You can tell a lot about a person by the car that they drive. I think it is very important to drive a nice car to meet with clients, because it gives the perception that you are doing well for yourself in business, and therefore will create success for your clients as well. Driving a beater screams "failure" or "start up" to most clients. Moreover, a clean car is an indication of conscientiousness, which is a very important quality to possess in business as well. Aside from the "value" of your car, the "type" of car you drive indicates things about your personality as well; driving a classy car versus driving a sports car can speak volumes about the type of image you are trying to represent.
      My question is this: why are you worried about giving off the impression that your services are too expensive? Wouldn't you rather deal with clients who will pay you top dollar for your services? Just my two cents
      Im also leaning towards driving a classier car to the meeting, what do u think of the mkz?

      Answering your question: Culturally, people like to haggle down the price of everything, product/service/food, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
      Originally Posted by KrystenRae View Post

      You can tell a lot about a person by the car that they drive. I think it is very important to drive a nice car to meet with clients, because it gives the perception that you are doing well for yourself in business, and therefore will create success for your clients as well. Driving a beater screams "failure" or "start up" to most clients.
      That post right there represents everything that is wrong with America.

      Furthermore, it will lead to disaster if you don't understand it for what it is. Which most people don't.

      Eben Pagan, a very successful and brilliant thinker, talked in volumes about this. He said, when he was a new business owner, flashy cars use to impress him. Fancy clothes did the same thing.

      He would think "if this person drives a nice car, and wears expensive clothes... well then they MUST be successful at what they do".

      That lazy way of thinking led to some pretty significant problems in his business life. This is what he came to realize, and what I now realize is 100% true. A person who is FLASHY with their money, will USUALLY treat your money the same exact way.

      This is very important for people to realize.
      Are you trying to hire a new marketing consultant for your business?
      Do they drive a corvette?

      Does that impress you?

      Guess what? Since they have no problem wasting their money on material items to impress the common folk (aka non sucessful folk), they will have NO PROBLEM wasting your money as well. This is why I drive a civic. There is even a classic book on this called "The Next Door Millionairre". It talks about how the majority of rich people, don't even own expensive homes or cars... or how they go to work in sweat pants and tshirts.

      You know WHY they're rich in the first place? Because they don't give a crap about impressing people by throwing their money around. What they would RATHER do, which is the real "millionairre psychology", is be frugal with their cash, so they can REINVEST it.

      Buying a car that you can't sell for more money, is not an investment, but an "acquisition". Doesn't matter what kind of car, whether its antique or not, if there are no buyers for it, you just lost money. So YES, a car can tell you A LOT about a person. If you show up at my business with an expensive car, first thing I'm going to think is "this persons a terrible investor". Unless you somehow explain to me that you have buyers for the car and plan on making 200% your investment back.

      Same thing with homes. If you need to showboat, that will be my first reason for suspecting that you make terrible decisions with your money. I have a brother who makes $400,000/yr, but is the WORST investor in the world. Ironically, he works in the stock market. He's the vice president of a very well known firm. I can't tell you how many times he's asked me to wait till friday just to deposit one of his checks. Its so pathetic. You could have a basement with an expensive state of the art theatre, but if the inside of your foundation walls are cracking... you're a terrible investor. All his "rich" friends are the same exact way. This one guy spent a fortune on solar panels for his home, just to find out 6 months later that his roof was caving in from the weight. It was an old roof, and if he was a SMART investor, he would have looked at THAT first. They had to take all the panels off, reframe his roof, put new shingles down, then he didn't even have money to reinstall the panels.

      I can go on all day with stories like these. "Showboats usually sink the fastest".

      Whats really sad, are all the poor folks who don't understand how most people get rich. Its not by buying cars to impress people. Its by saving money to reinvest it, so you can impress yourself. Which inevitably, wins more respect than anything I can think of in life.

      -Red
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post


        That lazy way of thinking led to some pretty significant problems in his business life. This is what he came to realize, and what I now realize is 100% true. A person who is FLASHY with their money, will USUALLY treat your money the same exact way.

        This is very important for people to realize.
        Are you trying to hire a new marketing consultant for your business?
        Do they drive a corvette?

        Does that impress you?

        Guess what? Since they have no problem wasting their money on material items to impress the common folk (aka non sucessful folk), they will have NO PROBLEM wasting your money as well. This is why I drive a civic. There is even a classic book on this called "The Next Door Millionairre". It talks about how the majority of rich people, don't even own expensive homes or cars... or how they go to work in sweat pants and tshirts.

        You know WHY they're rich in the first place? Because they don't give a crap about impressing people by throwing their money around. What they would RATHER do, which is the real "millionairre psychology", is be frugal with their cash, so they can REINVEST it.

        Buying a car that you can't sell for more money, is not an investment, but an "acquisition". Doesn't matter what kind of car, whether its antique or not, if there are no buyers for it, you just lost money. So YES, a car can tell you A LOT about a person. If you show up at my business with an expensive car, first thing I'm going to think is "this persons a terrible investor". Unless you somehow explain to me that you have buyers for the car and plan on making 200% your investment back.

        I can go on all day with stories like these. "Showboats usually sink the fastest".

        Whats really sad, are all the poor folks who don't understand how most people get rich. Its not by buying cars to impress people. Its by saving money to reinvest it, so you can impress yourself. Which inevitably, wins more respect than anything I can think of in life.

        -Red
        That's a solid and seasoned piece of reasoning there, I think.
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    I take the bus
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      I take the bus
      I've closed people by taking a bus before

      I've also closed a bus driver and built her a $1,000 website....

      Talk to everyone, you never know when your next grand will pop up from.
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    oh and OP...

    En donde en SA tu estas? Depende como este la economia donde tu vives es la importancia que se le da al autito tuyo
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    I just thought of something else....

    You know what driving a nice car and driving a POS car you don't want them to see you in have in common?

    You park in the far end of the parking lot away from everyone else.
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  • Profile picture of the author AdamDowning
    FakeTarts, haha. Yeah, bus is the way forward - You could buy a fiverr gig if you got the bus instead of driving!
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  • Profile picture of the author Seantrepreneur
    In my opinion you're all set with a Mustang. It isn't a super high-end car. On the flip side you might have more of an issue if you drive an old rusty pile of crap car. Think about it this way, if you have a professional person such as a Realtor, Insurance Agent, Financial Advisor etc., show up in a beater, what would you think? I personally would wonder how good they are at their job if they are driving such a junker. There's no need for them to drive a BMW, but a decent car matters to me.

    Maybe I'm judgmental, but if I am that means others are as well.

    That's just my opinion. I realize that wasn't really the question, but I thought I would put in my .02 anyways. haha

    Sweet ride btw, Brennen Noble! 750's are my jam!

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    Stay humble, being boastful is very bad for your image. People rather chose silent rather loud people.
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  • Profile picture of the author The IM Factory
    I do agree with what most people are saying here it doesn't matter what type of car you drive as long as you present yourself well and deliver to your clients. Does having a nice car make you look good? of course, one time my realtor pulled in in a brand new S63 and of course I was impressed because made me feel like this guy knows what he is doing and he is successful but I guess it's all how you see it... I drive a brand new car 2012 paid almost 50k and I wont say what type of car it is since this is not car thread, I have one of those cars that brings a lot of attention everywhere I go so what I am going to do with it this week is add my website in a couple of spots in the car to hopefully get something out of it but still keep the classy look of the car.... So stop worrying about your car and worry about getting results for your clients....
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    ? should I drive this, does it give the right impression, what will others think of me ? is my bum big in this ?

    How about instead of worrying about what everyone else thinks of you and then trying to become a puppet to be what others want, that you just just be you and drive what you want to drive when you want to drive it and get on with the important things in life.
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  • Profile picture of the author somacorellc
    I closed a $4,500 website +$500/mo service plan rolling up in my Honda Fit.

    Represent.
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  • Profile picture of the author wilhb81
    Hmm, what's the main point of this thread? No matter what type of car you have here, it's still a four wheels vehicle that can only be used on the Earth... (Unless, you have a private rocket or spaceship lol)
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  • Profile picture of the author jamtrading
    it doesnt really matter what car you drive but personally i would feel like an asshole in that car and im sure a lot of people will think the same
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    It matters more then you may think and those who have years of outside sales experience know what I'm talking about. It's unfortunate that we are judged on appearance but that's the reality of life.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        When I was selling in people's homes, I always drove a newer or new car. Usually a Ford Thunderbird. Why? Because my Dad worked at Ford, and lots of my customers either worked there or knew someone who did. And...if I ever bought a Non-Ford...Thanksgiving dinner would never be the same.

        But now I own a retail store, a nice one. And my car is one of many parked outside the store. So I give it little thought.

        As a speaker, most of my clients are out of driving distance anyway.
        And nobody ever asked me what model of jet I flew in on.

        Aren't I clever?
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  • Profile picture of the author henry Argueta
    This looks more like he just wanted to show off his car more than anything
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  • Profile picture of the author stone2010
    Well, this is my car and people still take me serious



    LOL Sorry I had to lighten up this thread since it became a car thread and not about image.. I do believe no matter what you drive all it matters is that you can deliver results. Of course take care of yourself and dont show up to a meeting looking like a slob
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  • Profile picture of the author DanielleDeHann
    If you can afford a $40K mustang you could probably drop $500 on a 1990 sentra on Craigslist.

    Take a few appointments in the mustang and a few in the sentra.

    Track results, report back, turn it into a WSO and you're set.

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    • Profile picture of the author henry Argueta
      Originally Posted by DanielleDeHann View Post

      If you can afford a $40K mustang you could probably drop $500 on a 1990 sentra on Craigslist.

      Take a few appointments in the mustang and a few in the sentra.

      Track results, report back, turn it into a WSO and you're set.

      Turn what into a WSO? Lol
      You people and your great ideas smh
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    • Profile picture of the author 1byte
      Originally Posted by DanielleDeHann View Post

      If you can afford a $40K mustang you could probably drop $500 on a 1990 sentra on Craigslist.

      Take a few appointments in the mustang and a few in the sentra.

      Track results, report back, turn it into a WSO and you're set.

      Split testing, then turning it into a WSO... that's great LOL!
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  • Profile picture of the author steveij
    Let me tell you this you represent your work ethic, having nice things comes with working hard if your clients think your to expensive, just tell them you could drive a honda accord and it still would'nt change how hard you'll work for them enjoy the fruits of your labor.
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  • Profile picture of the author Noah Fleming
    Is this a real question? Do your clients want to pay a guy who shows up on a bike?

    Reframe this in your own head. And if your clients have a problem with is,

    Tell him your bigger clients subsidize your smaller clients, like them, allowing you to give such rock-bottom fees (as a way of giving back) and also drive a nice car.
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  • Profile picture of the author stamford
    My boss has a £130 million pound yacht, 3 private jets but still drives a vw golf or else he takes a taxi everywhere, he's always told me that it doesnt matter what car you drive when you get to the clients place of business as long as you arrive and preferably early. Just have a nice smile, nice clothes and a nice watch on your wrist. Its up to you what you do with your money buy nice cars, holidays etc. its your money just keep earning it. Well done by the way keep it up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Koffing
    Who said that cars represent those who drive them.

    Micheal Schumacher, one of the best Formula One driver ever, regularry ride a FIAT CROMA!

    And what about Warren Buffet, one of the richest man alive, he drive a Caddy DTS paid about 40K !

    Master your niche, not cars !
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  • Profile picture of the author Noah Fleming
    And Sam Walton used to beat around in his old truck. Warren drives his old truck to the diner every morning.

    The point is to be comfortable in your own skin. And certainly don't be uncomfortable about success or the perception of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarvyDery
    Man, live your life as you so wish. You work hard to earn your money so why should someone else perception stop your from living your life.
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    • Profile picture of the author rhab
      I got a good chuckle out of this thread. I can't speak about fancy cars, But whether or not the intent of this post leans towards vanity or professional image, I do think professional image is a valid factor.

      Obviously the most important thing is the results delivered to a client. But driving a nice car, wearing a nice watch, dressing appropriately, all goes towards professional appearance and selling yourself. It's all a part of the whole package.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    I drive a 96 Nissan Maxima & a 92 Toyota Paseo

    get on my level. lmfao
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  • Profile picture of the author Sterlingz
    Pretty sad this turned into a pissing contest...

    Does it matter if Mustangs "are like mosquitoes"? You could drive a nice-looking 15k car, it would have the same effect on clients because most don't know cars. Hell, tons of people think Tiburons are fancy cars, same for 2013 Sonata. The inverse applies, you could drive a 100k mercedes and some people won't realize what it's worth.

    As for the actual benefit of driving a nice car? I think it depends what you're doing. Appearance does matter, dressing nice is the best thing you can do (just make sure to roll up your sleeves).

    My aunt's friend sells beauty products door-to-door, she hires out people to sell for her. What's she's actually selling is a 'be your own boss' system, and since buying that 60k BMW her sales have increased drastically. Helps with how people portray you for sure...
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew H
    A mustang is a normal car, this car won't make any impressions (good or bad). So you are good to go.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mav91890
    I love how people get so crazy about "their" car when in reality it's the bank's car for another 5+ years, lol. This is not directed at the OP.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    I love how people get so crazy about "their" car when in reality it's the bank's car for another 5+ years, lol.
    I own both of my cars. Only payments I make on them is the insurance & property taxes.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      My god. One of the most visited and active threads on the Forum.
      What is bringing so many great marketing minds to one place?
      Did someone discover a secret formula to turn lead into gold? Is it about how someone wrote the perfect sales letter? A new prospecting approach that make people beg you to sell them?

      No.

      My car is better than your car.


      Thank goodness I don't judge someone by the car they drive. I base my judgement of them, as a person, on what celebrity they remind me of.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mav91890
      Originally Posted by Whos That Guru View Post

      I own both of my cars. Only payments I make on them is the insurance & property taxes.
      In what country do you have to pay property taxes on a car?
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      • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
        Originally Posted by Mav91890 View Post

        In what country do you have to pay property taxes on a car?
        Uh.. the USA..

        Maybe they arent called property taxes, maybe they are. I dont know.

        I just know I have to pay a fee each year for registration & tags.

        Step off kid. Anyone who owns a car knows what I meant.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mav91890
          Originally Posted by Whos That Guru View Post

          Uh.. the USA..

          Maybe they arent called property taxes, maybe they are. I dont know.

          I just know I have to pay a fee each year for registration & tags.

          Step off kid. Anyone who owns a car knows what I meant.

          Not really property taxes, but ok.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebThinker
    I hope this thread is a joke... Never seen such a ridiculous question. My humble guess is that you want to show off, so here you go: well done pal.... (Hope that the irony is clear for everyone).

    But coming back to your image, when you go to a serious business meeting instead of being worried about the car, try to get a shirt and loose that hat... really...
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  • Profile picture of the author failideas
    you guys underestimate what people think, specially in countries not so developped or open minded like the US
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    This is in my dream. I like it

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  • Profile picture of the author bluecoyotemedia
    i can't believe this conversation is actually going on
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    Weird thread...
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  • Profile picture of the author Becker13
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    Gaw american sports cars are such pieces of crap lol
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  • Profile picture of the author MadLion
    Lets be real here and answer the question. This isn't a completely stupid thread.
    1. If you show up in a real POS you may blow your posture and want to park down the block a little.
    2. If you have a decent to nice car than it does not matter.
    3. If you have a really expensive car then your clients will probably see you are high status which is good. People want to associate with successful higher status people.
    4. Worrying how I am perceived means I am not confident, self assured, and carefree. This will mess me up more than the car ever could. I operate at my best when I just be me, say what I feel, and worry about nothing.

    The mindset is the only thing I would question in this case.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cash37
    I drive a 30k car, but its only worth 10k now.

    Good thing I paid 5k for it.

    Always be investing. You have to spend the money, why not make it grow? Even with your car.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jerome Y
    I wouldn't worry about that. If clients think you're too expensive/overcharging them, you haven't done your part in showing them your value to THEM.

    Price is hardly an issue, it's only what they are comparing the money they are paying it to. If they are comparing the money they pay you to high value in return, you don't have a problem.
    Just focus on showing them value in your service and your car won't even matter.
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