$59,400 A Week Seeling Mobile Websites? FANTASY?

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Sup warriors.
Happy thanks giving to all in the US .

So, I have been playing offline and has been making some $$$ but recently I decided to go mobile marketing when Don Wilson released his Simple Mainstreet Control. I am going to charge like $297 per site and $27/month.

I hired a VA to make me a list of 200 - 300 businesses with name website contact details and email everyday and then create a prospecting page for all of them. All this could be done thanks to Don.

So each email will be customized to owners name and website = higher open rates and ctr.

I will ask my VA to do the contacting too so in like 10 days, he should have contacted atleast 2000 - 3000 Highly Targeted prospects . I will be responding to all quires though .

If I could get like 10% conv., then it should easily make me a sweet $59,400 in revenue that week right? What's your though on this and if it works.. more VA's will soon be added scaling this up and above.

Sky is the limit and I hope this thread gave you some weird ideas .
#$59 #400 #fantasy #mobile #seeling #websites #week
  • Profile picture of the author sirblade
    Sean....A 10% conversion rate ? From cold emails?

    I think a .001% is more likely im afraid my friend! Fantasy? Definitely!
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  • Profile picture of the author internetmarketer1
    I think this is a noble and strong idea! I saw that program from Don Wilson and it seems extremely interesting.

    I don't think it's a fantasy! Take Action and it should work. As long as everything is in place and you know somebody who can take care of the designing of the sites, you can achieve that $50,000 figure.

    Create a WSO on the idea once you succeed. I'm sure many will buy it! More Profits TOO.

    Good luck!

    EDIT: Don't listen to the guy on top of my comment! Just do what you do and see what happens. It is better to fail than to not try at all. While it does take time to see results, you will succeed in some way. Whether you make $50,000 or only $5,000, would you call the latter a failure?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sean Erickson
      Originally Posted by internetmarketer1 View Post

      Whether you make $50,000 or only $5,000, would you call the latter a failure?
      Never haha. If it could make me 5k, then i will do the exact same stuff.. 10x .
      I am hoping to call them when they open my emails and that way, it won't be COLD.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by internetmarketer1 View Post

      I don't think it's a fantasy!
      Because you don't think very well.
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      • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
        Now let me explain how this is not going to happen. Feel free to prove me wrong if you feel like wasting your time, because I'm not wrong.

        First... if you're processing credit cards, you won't ever see that money because you will never be approved for that kind of volume with no build up history. You will not even process 10,000/mo unless you have good credit, but you will still experience typical merchant holds.

        Next... you won't do 50k/mo until you have a HISTORY with the account and they approve you based on your account history and exceptional credit or be willing to hold $50,000 as collateral. The only exception is when you only process checks.

        Next... you can't do 59,400/wk because you can't handle the work load.

        "sky is the limit" and "weird ideas" and any other cliche line you can think of, will not pay your bills.

        From an operational standpoint you will never be able to handle that kind of volume (it takes time to build up systems to be able to). And mobile websites? please.....

        Now... lets talk about your unrealistic expectations.

        10% conversion? Not happening. Sending emails like the way you plan, you will already be blacklisted before you're even half way through. You will be sent to the spam folder after the first few hundred.

        You will be lucky to even get a 10% open rate... you will be lucky to have 1% actually read the thing... you won't get 10% conversions and anyone that claims they are with cold emails is a down right liar. You don't make money off high email conversions, because they don't exist unless it is an opt in list. You scale by mass emailing to make up for the poor response rates.

        Mobile sites? No... responsive web design is the future... mobile sites are a thing of the past unless you're in the WSO forum and believe the garbage.

        I kind of believe this thread was created simply to drive traffic to YOUR WSO. I don't believe anyone can really believe in the crap you just posted. Shame on you. This is marketing pornography.
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        • Profile picture of the author AdrianMansilla
          What does mean? "responsive web design"

          thanks

          Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

          Now let me explain how this is not going to happen. Feel free to prove me wrong if you feel like wasting your time, because I'm not wrong.

          First... if you're processing credit cards, you won't ever see that money because you will never be approved for that kind of volume with no build up history. You will not even process 10,000/mo unless you have good credit, but you will still experience typical merchant holds.

          Next... you won't do 50k/mo until you have a HISTORY with the account and they approve you based on your account history and exceptional credit or be willing to hold $50,000 as collateral. The only exception is when you only process checks.

          Next... you can't do 59,400/wk because you can't handle the work load.

          "sky is the limit" and "weird ideas" and any other cliche line you can think of, will not pay your bills.

          From an operational standpoint you will never be able to handle that kind of volume (it takes time to build up systems to be able to). And mobile websites? please.....

          Now... lets talk about your unrealistic expectations.

          10% conversion? Not happening. Sending emails like the way you plan, you will already be blacklisted before you're even half way through. You will be sent to the spam folder after the first few hundred.

          You will be lucky to even get a 10% open rate... you will be lucky to have 1% actually read the thing... you won't get 10% conversions and anyone that claims they are with cold emails is a down right liar. You don't make money off high email conversions, because they don't exist unless it is an opt in list. You scale by mass emailing to make up for the poor response rates.

          Mobile sites? No... responsive web design is the future... mobile sites are a thing of the past unless you're in the WSO forum and believe the garbage.

          I kind of believe this thread was created simply to drive traffic to YOUR WSO. I don't believe anyone can really believe in the crap you just posted. Shame on you. This is marketing pornography.
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          • Profile picture of the author Adrian John
            Check it out
            Code:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsive_web_design
            Originally Posted by AdrianMansilla View Post

            What does mean? "responsive web design"

            thanks
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        • Profile picture of the author akazo
          Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

          Mobile sites? No... responsive web design is the future... mobile sites are a thing of the past unless you're in the WSO forum and believe the garbage.
          Ding... ding... ding... we have a winner!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sean Erickson
    Any recommendation on email tracking softwares/services? Looking into a few.
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    • Profile picture of the author jimbo13
      Of course you are not going to get 10% sales from your e-mails. That's not sirblade being a partypooper it is him being realistic.

      He never told you not to send out your 3000 e-mails, just don't order your new car yet eh?

      If 10% opened it and you called them later and converted 10% of those 10% you are already at the 1% mark are you not?

      Is this 10% figure something you came up with or is it some nonsense that the WSO had in it?

      Dan
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      • Profile picture of the author Sean Erickson
        Originally Posted by jimbo13 View Post

        Of course you are not going to get 10% sales from your e-mails. That's not sirblade being a partypooper it is him being realistic.

        He never told you not to send out your 3000 e-mails, just don't order your new car yet eh?

        If 10% opened it and you called them later and converted 10% of those 10% you are already at the 1% mark are you not?

        Is this 10% figure something you came up with or is it some nonsense that the WSO had in it?

        Dan
        No the 10% didn't come from a WSO but from a friend of mine who has been getting it and even more and I am not going order a new car as I did just a few days ago. But I will be optimistic and aiming for it so I can see for my self if its possible or not .
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    • Profile picture of the author Rearden
      Originally Posted by Sean Erickson View Post

      Any recommendation on email tracking softwares/services? Looking into a few.
      Here's a thought:

      Pick up the phone and talk to human beings, before or after you send the targeted email.

      Even better, actually DROP IN to talk to them, face-to-face.

      They won't bite. Really.

      You'll make much more money that way. I promise.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sean Erickson
        Originally Posted by Rearden View Post

        Here's a thought:

        Pick up the phone and talk to human beings, before or after you send the targeted email.

        Even better, actually DROP IN to talk to them, face-to-face.

        They won't bite. Really.

        You'll make much more money that way. I promise.
        Hey bud, yes I will be contacting them once they open my email and since each prospecting page is related to his/hers website I am hoping to get good con. Will keep you all posted
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        • Profile picture of the author Rearden
          Originally Posted by Sean Erickson View Post

          Hey bud, yes I will be contacting them once they open my email and since each prospecting page is related to his/hers website I am hoping to get good con. Will keep you all posted
          Good luck.

          Consider qualifying a list of local businesses without mobile websites and just dropping in to show them how their website looks WITHOUT mobile capabilities versus how it looks and performs as a mobile site, already made for them.

          Then, double your price, and, after you pitch them, tell them if they act TODAY, you'll give them a $100 discount, and first hosting/maintenance month free. And ask for the year's worth of hosting maintenance up front versus monthly at a lesser amount.

          Get your VA to do 50 businesses locally -- you should be able to hit them all in 2 days, if not 1. You should make 1-2 sales that way.
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          • Profile picture of the author Madam X
            Originally Posted by Rearden View Post

            Good luck.

            Consider qualifying a list of local businesses without mobile websites and just dropping in to show them how their website looks WITHOUT mobile capabilities versus how it looks and performs as a mobile site, already made for them.

            Then, double your price, and, after you pitch them, tell them if they act TODAY, you'll give them a $100 discount, and first hosting/maintenance month free. And ask for the year's worth of hosting maintenance up front versus monthly at a lesser amount.

            Get your VA to do 50 businesses locally -- you should be able to hit them all in 2 days, if not 1. You should make 1-2 sales that way.
            Rearden,

            I've found that most of the businesses that I drop in on to sell services to - whether Mobile services or otherwise - don't have access to WiFi. It's very frustrating & I totally feel like I live in the dark ages. Any advice on what to do?

            Thanks ~
            Madam X
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            • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
              Originally Posted by Madam X View Post

              Rearden,

              I've found that most of the businesses that I drop in on to sell services to - whether Mobile services or otherwise - don't have access to WiFi. It's very frustrating & I totally feel like I live in the dark ages. Any advice on what to do?

              Thanks ~
              Madam X
              Mobile Hotspot from Verizon or AT&T depending on which market you are in and the coverage map.
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              • Profile picture of the author DEaFeYe
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                • Profile picture of the author shane_k
                  Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post


                  This is marketing pornography.
                  wow, this had me on the floor laughing so hard, tears and everything, lol.


                  Originally Posted by Trent English View Post

                  Couldn't resist:

                  There is no missing dollar, the REAL equation would be $27.00 - $2.00 taking us to the even $25.00!
                  Interesting.

                  The solution that we were taught in school to this riddle was that there was no missing dollar. There was $30 initially, the manager ended up with $25, the bellboy $2, and the final $3 went back to the three men. How they split it up between them or how much they each paid doesn't matter and is a sleight of hand of sorts.

                  Just goes to show how much of a problem projecting out numbers on a piece of paper or in a software program can be especially before you have any real world data to back it up.


                  You can make the numbers say what you want them to say.
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      • Profile picture of the author J. Barry Mandel
        Rearden is 100% right.

        More money will probably be generated on the follow up, and not on the initial email.

        What you should really do (Dan Kennedy style) is create a sequence of 2 follow ups in addition to the initial email.

        Perhaps an email/call/physical letter sequence might be a good way to go about it.

        That 3rd contact should state something like "YOUR LAST CHANCE TO..."

        Good luck with your project, let us know how you make out!

        Best of Luck,

        Justin



        Originally Posted by Rearden View Post

        Here's a thought:

        Pick up the phone and talk to human beings, before or after you send the targeted email.

        Even better, actually DROP IN to talk to them, face-to-face.

        They won't bite. Really.

        You'll make much more money that way. I promise.
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    • Profile picture of the author webpageguru
      Originally Posted by Sean Erickson View Post

      Any recommendation on email tracking softwares/services? Looking into a few.
      Hi Sean, try readnotify.com - should do the job

      Martin, Sydney Australia
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  • Profile picture of the author TyBrown
    Whenever I see someone about to embark on a business venture and I see the word 'if' it's a huge red flag. It's always along the lines of-
    "If I can get this conversion rate..."
    "If I can get this many contacts..."
    "If my VA can sell this many per day..."

    and it always ends with,

    "We'll be printing money!"

    Based on the number of people printing money out there I'd say 'if' can be a dangerous word.
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    • Profile picture of the author Liz Morgan
      Originally Posted by TyBrown View Post

      Whenever I see someone about to embark on a business venture and I see the word 'if' it's a huge red flag. It's always along the lines of-
      "If I can get this conversion rate..."
      "If I can get this many contacts..."
      "If my VA can sell this many per day..."

      and it always ends with,

      "We'll be printing money!"

      Based on the number of people printing money out there I'd say 'if' can be a dangerous word.

      LOL, right there with you. I cringe when I see these "if I, then bla bla bla" threads. I wish people would just keep their mouths shut and plans to themselves until they have real world experience carrying out their ideas of grandeur.
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  • Profile picture of the author tantan
    About the monthly fee $27/month, what is this for Sean?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sean Erickson
      Originally Posted by tantan View Post

      About the monthly fee $27/month, what is this for Sean?
      Hey Tantan... It is for managing the mobile website and adding updates and all .
      Originally Posted by BeauJustin View Post

      I see no distinction between cheap and affordable at the $297 price point, and neither will anyone else, because there is no value proposition here.

      200-300 mobile websites per week is also a pretty daunting task, even for simple mobile sites, and even with an experienced web manager.

      I don't think its fantasy, as much as it is folly. Good goal, but I would focus on providing sustainable "value" rather than the oh so easy, but unsustainable cheap model.
      I didn't get what your saying Beau. Actually, it takes like 5 minutes to create a mobile site and it was damn easy. And if I can get it done in 5 minutes and help the business, i would charge $297 which is affordable and at the same time professional thanks to the Offline WSO's I brought these days .
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      • Profile picture of the author Madam X
        Originally Posted by Sean Erickson View Post

        Hey Tantan... It is for managing the mobile website and adding updates and all .


        I didn't get what your saying Beau. Actually, it takes like 5 minutes to create a mobile site and it was damn easy. And if I can get it done in 5 minutes and help the business, i would charge $297 which is affordable and at the same time professional thanks to the Offline WSO's I brought these days .



        May I ask what Mobile website builder that you're using to build your websites in five minutes? It takes me at least a half an hour. I have to write specific copy that fits in the Mobile website, I have to upload & resize the images, put in the business name & number and perhaps a menu. It takes more than five minutes & I know what I'm doing & I type 65 wpm.

        Would like to know this because I want to build in five minutes too!

        Madam X
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        • Profile picture of the author Adrian John
          I think it's possible but I also think the work load would be insane.I'm in designing mobile sites so i know what it takes to actually finish a project, do revisions, install the websites, and provide good quality support.
          Good luck to you and I hope you will reach your goal.

          Originally Posted by Madam X View Post

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          May I ask what Mobile website builder that you're using to build your websites in five minutes? It takes me at least a half an hour. I have to write specific copy that fits in the Mobile website, I have to upload & resize the images, put in the business name & number and perhaps a menu. It takes more than five minutes & I know what I'm doing & I type 65 wpm.

          Would like to know this because I want to build in five minutes too!

          Madam X
          I would like to know that too it takes at least half an hour to put everything together and if there is anything special needed could take you a lot more.Even with the builders it take a lot more unless you want something that won't reflect the professionalism of your companies and just sell the damn mobile website.
          Mobile website design it's exploding these days, even in small countries like mine, and i don't agree that responsive design it's better than an custom-made simply from the fact that you can't concentrate the exact info that user need to see in order to take action, call the business and close the deal.Sure you can use an responsive design if you're looking for visitors,have them spend the time browsing your content, but if you're looking for clients(as a business owner) than i doubt responsive design it's an wise choice.
          I'm talking from my experience with my partners(US mainly and UK) and by the volume of mobile websites requested each week.Some places might be different so you could get different results in other areas.So continue doing what works for you in order to achieve your goals, cause you will.

          As far as recommendation on email tracking softwares/services what i've been using it's readnotify, yesware and rightinbox
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  • Profile picture of the author BeauJustin
    I see no distinction between cheap and affordable at the $297 price point, and neither will anyone else, because there is no value proposition here.

    200-300 mobile websites per week is also a pretty daunting task, even for simple mobile sites, and even with an experienced web manager.

    I don't think its fantasy, as much as it is folly. Good goal, but I would focus on providing sustainable "value" rather than the oh so easy, but unsustainable cheap model.
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    $59,400 A Week Seeling Mobile Websites? FANTASY?

    While you sit here and talk about it is fantasy and nothing more, often people have fantasy dreams, but turning that fantasy into reality is rare for most people.

    Often a new shiny object pops up and a new fantasy is born and so the revolving door of endless dreams swings again.

    A few wise old heads have given some good advice here for you, so probably your first steps to glory might be to see with all of that golden knowledge in your WSO see if you can even make 10% of your fantasy real, see if you can make $5,940 a week first.

    Good luck with it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sean Erickson
      Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

      $59,400 A Week Seeling Mobile Websites? FANTASY?

      While you sit here and talk about it is fantasy and nothing more, often people have fantasy dreams, but turning that fantasy into reality is rare for most people.

      Often a new shiny object pops up and a new fantasy is born and so the revolving door of endless dreams swings again.

      A few wise old heads have given some good advice here for you, so probably your first steps to glory might be to see with all of that golden knowledge in your WSO see if you can even make 10% of your fantasy real, see if you can make $5,940 a week first.

      Good luck with it.
      Edit : its not that i am new to offline marketing. I make that with fb and offline but I always want to try something new and adding VA's to my team .

      Well, they say you need to aim higher to get higher . As I am here doing what I am best at, my VA is working on this as we speak . I am sure it is not fantasy as many has done it and is still doing it. I am just joining the game.
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  • Profile picture of the author buddynextdoor
    Hello friends,

    I may sound Childish, But I wouild Like to KNow...How can a person like me...who is total layman in HTML or Programing..( I am Pro VFX,MOTION GRAPHICS,Animation & Designing Person ) Whenever I see someone talking about A) APP CREATION b) Mobile Site Creation or C) Facebook Business Pages Creation.......I always feel........ May Be I too could have got an opportunity to get into these HUGE GLOBAL opportunities.......

    How can I make these Mobile SITES for my Clients ?!

    Please forgive me if I have hindered the decorum of your existing chain of POSTS....but I need your alls help.

    regards
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    • Profile picture of the author John Durham
      Originally Posted by buddynextdoor View Post

      Hello friends,

      I may sound Childish, But I wouild Like to KNow...How can a person like me...who is total layman in HTML or Programing..( I am Pro VFX,MOTION GRAPHICS,Animation & Designing Person ) Whenever I see someone talking about A) APP CREATION b) Mobile Site Creation or C) Facebook Business Pages Creation.......I always feel........ May Be I too could have got an opportunity to get into these HUGE GLOBAL opportunities.......

      How can I make these Mobile SITES for my Clients ?!

      Please forgive me if I have hindered the decorum of your existing chain of POSTS....but I need your alls help.

      regards
      BuddyNextDoor
      Mobile Marketing

      @ Sean Erickson

      Just do it and see what happens. I myself have had some of the greatest failures of all times and also hit some of the most magnificent home runs of all times... The more you bat, the more home runs you hit.

      If you strike out...hey that happens sometimes too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    I am very curious to see what you conversion rate will be.

    I am among those that find a conversion rate of 10% highly unlikely for email. If you have a friend doing that and he will train you how you have found a gold mine.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cash Money
    Good luck with this.

    How do you plan on building the mobile websites? Are you building a whole new website or leaving the existing one up and redirecting mobile users to mobile friendly version?

    How will you go about demonstrating to your potential customers that the site isn't working on iphones etc, in the email you send them?

    Might be a good idea to hire a salesman in your area who can call the potential customers instead of email. Might have higher conversion rate?

    Won't a lot of these people just go back to the person they already paid to build their site and tell them to fix it?

    Let us know how it goes.
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    • Profile picture of the author Irish Intuition
      Is it just me or is anyone else getting tired of all these lofty "make $257,492 a
      minute' type of posts.

      What if the above idea turned into 'I made $59k in 6 months"... I think that I
      would say that was pretty damn successful as well.

      I want to make a million dollars per month (as does everyone), but we need
      to get the ball rolling first
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    I have seen some things blow up to 100k to even 260k per month pretty fast... So I dont limit the possibilities. If people want to dream thats great, if you shoot for the stars, you might at least hit the moon...and who knows, maybe you will hit a star. It's worth trying to innovate a new way that has its own numbers.

    I say "On with the test". Let's see the results.
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  • Profile picture of the author TakenAction
    There are a lot of people saying that this is not possible at all etc.
    I for one do agree to some point..
    BUT, there is nothing wrong with your dream and goal.
    Regardless of what might happen. GO FOR IT!

    You can always get the results and fix some thing and test and test again.
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    The best thing you can do is put yourself out there.

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  • Profile picture of the author Sue Bruce
    Originally Posted by Sean Erickson View Post

    Sup warriors.
    Happy thanks giving to all in the US .

    So, I have been playing offline and has been making some $$$ but recently I decided to go mobile marketing when Don Wilson released his Simple Mainstreet Control. I am going to charge like $297 per site and $27/month.

    I hired a VA to make me a list of 200 - 300 businesses with name website contact details and email everyday and then create a prospecting page for all of them. All this could be done thanks to Don.

    So each email will be customized to owners name and website = higher open rates and ctr.

    I will ask my VA to do the contacting too so in like 10 days, he should have contacted atleast 2000 - 3000 Highly Targeted prospects . I will be responding to all quires though .

    If I could get like 10% conv., then it should easily make me a sweet $59,400 in revenue that week right? What's your though on this and if it works.. more VA's will soon be added scaling this up and above.

    Sky is the limit and I hope this thread gave you some weird ideas .
    You sound like that gutsy "Iamnameless" guy. I have no doubt you will get to that wild figure. The only question is "How many VA's will it take?"

    Sue
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  • Profile picture of the author bob ross
    Personally, I hate mobile sites. I hate googling stuff on my phone, clicking it and then being taken to a mobile page that doesn't show the content in the google search. Then I have to click "view full site" to see what I wanted, which always looks fine anyways.
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  • Profile picture of the author xlfutur1
    Before you dream about making 59K in a week, maybe just concentrate on doing ONE and making $297 first. Then you scale up to 2 the next week, then 3 or 4 the week after that etc. that's more like how real businesses get built. You slowly put systems that work so you can scale up, but the reality is that you've got to start with just one at some point.

    Some of these threads remind me of the network marketing pitches of old that claimed you can be a millionaire in 6 months if you....."Just get 3 people, who get 3, who get 3, who get 3, etc." Sounds so simple, and I guess its not impossible in theory, but in reality it just doesn't seem to ever happen.
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  • Profile picture of the author bob ross
    xlfutur1, you're not kidding about how good the numbers look in theory. Here's one of my favorite math problems dealing with some very simple and believable numbers:


    Three men go to stay at a motel, and the man at the desk charges them $30.00 for a room. They split the cost ten dollars each. Later the manager tells the desk man that he overcharged the men, that the actual cost should have been $25.00. The manager gives the bellboy $5.00 and tells him to give it to the men.
    The bellboy, however, decides to cheat the men and pockets $2.00, giving each of the men only one dollar.

    Now each man has paid $9.00 to stay in the room and 3 x $9.00 = $27.00. The bellboy has pocketed $2.00. $27.00 + $2.00 = $29.00 - so where is the missing $1.00?
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by bob ross View Post

      Now each man has paid $9.00 to stay in the room and 3 x $9.00 = $27.00. The bellboy has pocketed $2.00. $27.00 + $2.00 = $29.00 - so where is the missing $1.00?
      It isn't missing...
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    • Profile picture of the author James English
      Originally Posted by bob ross View Post

      xlfutur1, you're not kidding about how good the numbers look in theory. Here's one of my favorite math problems dealing with some very simple and believable numbers:


      Three men go to stay at a motel, and the man at the desk charges them $30.00 for a room. They split the cost ten dollars each. Later the manager tells the desk man that he overcharged the men, that the actual cost should have been $25.00. The manager gives the bellboy $5.00 and tells him to give it to the men.
      The bellboy, however, decides to cheat the men and pockets $2.00, giving each of the men only one dollar.

      Now each man has paid $9.00 to stay in the room and 3 x $9.00 = $27.00. The bellboy has pocketed $2.00. $27.00 + $2.00 = $29.00 - so where is the missing $1.00?
      Couldn't resist:

      There is no missing dollar, the REAL equation would be $27.00 - $2.00 taking us to the even $25.00!
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  • Profile picture of the author xlfutur1
    Thanks Jake, that is a great example. I'm going to try that one on my kids and see if they can figure it out.
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggerDeen
    I agree with some of the people here, its better to do cold calling as the conversions will be much more than cold emailing (sorry if there is no term exist like "cold emailing"). Emails are very easy to ignore and conversion are very very low which you will see once you start doing it.
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  • Profile picture of the author champion510
    Some interesting thoughts being shared by all different parties here.
    So what was the conclusion? What was the conversion rate?
    did your VA make those calls?
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  • Profile picture of the author kemdev
    My main question would be... if you're making '$$$' playing 'offline' why would you decide to pay money for a brand new system, stop whatever you've been doing, and change whatever service you've been offering before... all in the name of fairtytale feel-good numbers? That is, if you've actually been making money, and you've actually been working.

    Numbers always sound good. Why? Because we make them up, typically in our favor. But what works in your head doesn't (always) work in reality.
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  • Profile picture of the author tantan
    Another question Sean, hopefully will give a lot of inspiration

    I think it's related to the monthly fee. who will host the site? client's server or your server?

    Since I've done several custom client projects, but had never tried to charge recurring fee.
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  • Profile picture of the author jayspann
    I'm with the others that brought up the work load...

    I found that keeping just 20 clients happy was a FULL time job let alone 200-300.

    Life is mush easier if you attract and keep a small handfull of HIGH ticket clients than trying to be the Procter and Gamble of offline.

    I takes just as much time to market and sell a $300 client as it does a $30K client. Ok a $30K client might take a little longer but you get my point

    OH here is a fun fact... Rolls Royce nets more money per year selling 2500 cars than Honda does selling 1.2 million cars and trucks
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  • Profile picture of the author takeactionIM
    Lol this sounds exactly like me when I first started IM when I was 16 2 years ago.Straight up delusions of grandeur.Now I'm and realize that it is WAY harder than I thought it would be...
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  • Profile picture of the author karlmay1980
    I bought simple mainstream control, its a good concept, and with a team 300 a week could become reality, but as a business targeting local markets in web design an social media, I wouldn't be banking on 300 a week and also most people know flash has finished so it probably only has a year or 2 as an adopted tactic and there be no market left.

    Make sure by then you are targeting other markets, or 5 or 6, don't shot your eggs in one basket so to speak.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel LaRusso
    You know, over a month later, the one thing missing, which was promised by the OP, is an update on how this is going. Likely he never got started.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cash Money
    Did anyone make a $ from this?
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    Happy New year everyone
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  • Profile picture of the author ColdCallCommando
    I'm confident that you will have much stronger success cold calling your prospects rather than cold emailing them. My recommendation is using a tool called Localizer that will scrape all of the phone numbers and businesses of the niche and in the location you are trying to prospect to.

    I use a power dialer called Phone Burner so I can make 300-400 calls per day. From those 300-400 calls I easily make 3-5 appointments per day. Out of 5-6 appointments I can close 1-2 deals.

    It's important to engage the business owner, pique their interest and schedule a time for them to hear what you have to say. There is no push button email that will bring you in new leads but the good news is with a little bit of cold calling and persistence you can have new mobile website deals coming to you within the next couple of days.

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