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Getting Accepted in Linked In Groups?

by digitalworks01
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Dears,
I am trying to join the chiropractors/dentists Linked In group and most of the groups are closed group, I have sent a request (2 days before) for joining these groups but I have not been given access.

I have contacted atleast 10 groups, is there any thing i can do or send a message again to get in?

Actually my focus is to provide mobile sites for Health Professionals.

Any tips on how to get in?

thanks
dj
#accepted #groups #linked #linked in
  • Profile picture of the author Mwind076
    Some groups are just not as active, and their admins don't check the requests often. I try to stay away from those types as they don't post comments and other things in a timely manner.

    Try searching for another OPEN group and you'll see they are more active. Also, join some mobile or SEO or marketing groups.
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
    I got into a couple of closed dental groups. You sometimes need patience and a fully filled out profile.
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  • Profile picture of the author dlink
    This is lengthy, and isn't revolutionary or anything, but this is my exact process step by step when I want to enter a new industry of professionals that I haven't targeted before on LinkedIn:

    THE METHOD
    1. I join 1 active open group and make sure that it's visible in my profile, join 2 if I feel it necessary, like I'm not getting into a closed group.
    I also check for quality conversations. I want there to be more conversations about the industry and from the professionals that work in it, than marketers and advertisers spamming "helpful" articles/services.
    2. I check the members in the group and see if I already have 1st & 2nd degree contacts in the group that work in that industry (using advanced search to narrow down).

    Code:
    This is optional, but if you find that you don't have any 1st or 2nd degree 
contacts in the open group, I recommend building your connections 
through TopLinked.

I've found lots of professionals in niches I go to break into that are open 
networkers. 

So you can usually have 1st & 2nd degree contacts without realizing it until
you try breaking into a new industry.
    3. Next, see what groups these 1st & 2nd degree contacts are in that are active closed groups, I've found there's more of a chance the admin will be active if the group is active.

    I check this through group statistics by checking # of members and active comments.

    I don't go by any specific number either.

    Sometimes I feel 7 weekly comments is good, other times I go for double digits in the 20s, I really have no set criteria, other than it has to be active enough by my own standards.
    I personally only apply to 1 or 2 and wait about a full week for approval unless the admin has an automated message stating the wait could take longer than that. I've waited as long as 2-3 weeks for approval, patience is key for sure sometimes.

    I only apply to 1 or 2 because I want to make sure I get approved by at least 1 of them. I don't want to apply to all of the closed groups in the industry that I find at once and get rejected.
    4. Once approved, I make sure the closed group is visible on my profile and the open group is not.
    I only do this step because in my mind it seems like it brings credibility to your profile that you do actually work in the industry you're trying to get into the closed group for, it's worked for me.
    5. Then I apply to get in more closed groups, but I only keep 1-2 of them visible on my profile.
    I also only have 7 groups visible on my profile for 2 reasons:
    1. Because I believe that's all LinkedIn shows at once now
    2. When I'm trying to get accepted into a closed group, I want my profile groups to appear targeted for that industry for the admins that check profiles
    6. Lastly, I suggest having something about the industry you do work for on your profile. I can't really measure how well this worked for me because I've changed this a bit on my profile, but I think it helped.
    It said something like "who I do work for" in all caps, and a bullet list below that of about 8 industries I'd made contacts in, like lawyers, painters, plumbers, etc.
    So in your case I'd have something like
    Code:
    WHO I DO WORK FOR:
    • Health Professionals
      •
    I've changed it now to just 1 line about doing work for businesses/companies that advertise online, still works, but it seems like my accepted response was higher the other way, or maybe I was just targeting more industries so it seemed higher. I mainly have this little blurb in there for the admins that check profiles.

    Now, for a little statistics about how this works for me...

    MY CASE STUDY
    I originally was in 7 groups before I started actively using LinkedIn. 5 open, 2 closed.

    Now I'm in 43 total groups, so I joined 36 new groups. 27 are closed groups related to what I do, 23 are industry/niche related to build my business.

    Once I started being more active I came up with this method.

    I've only not been accepted into 4 closed groups that were industry related to build my business doing this. 3 took longer than 1-2 weeks to accept so I withdrew my request and 1 I was just flat out rejected, no biggie.

    So, overall I've been accepted into 85% of the industry/niche related closed groups I've applied to, for me that isn't bad.

    Of course, don't know how well this will work for you or anyone else, but this is how I do it and this is what works for me...so no crying to me that this doesn't work. :p

    Now getting paying clients that aren't trying to suck my time with free info is a different story.
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    • Profile picture of the author digitalworks01
      Originally Posted by dlink View Post

      This is lengthy, and isn't revolutionary or anything, but this is my exact process step by step when I want to enter a new industry of professionals that I haven't targeted before on LinkedIn:
      .
      Nice strategy, just implemented it and I am not sure is it mere coincidence or because of your strategy, I just got accepted into one of the biggest network, thanks...

      Do you have any wso's on linked-in, if yes I would like to get it, if not please create a wso based on your experience in linkedin I would be the first person to get it ...
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      • Profile picture of the author dlink
        Originally Posted by digitalworks01 View Post

        Nice strategy, just implemented it and I am not sure it is coincidence or because of your strategy, I just got accepted into one of the biggest network, thanks...

        Do you have any wso's on linked-in, if yes I would like to get it, if not please create a wso based on your experience in linkedin I would be the first person to get it ...
        That's awesome! Glad to help if it was my method that worked. As for a wso, nope no wso from me...

        ---mini rant coming ...
        1 time and 1 time only did I do a WSO that wasn't popular, 5 sales 1 refund ... it was a personal SEO case study on how I increased targeted traffic to an affiliate site by over 150% or some ridiculous number in 14 days, and made money online for the first time affiliate marketing... the site was used mostly learn and test affiliate marketing techniques, this was in 2010.

        I learned I didn't like affiliate marketing or doing a ton of manual work with little return on time spent, of course, not everyone's experience is the same, but that was mine and I didn't enjoy it.
        ---- end mini rant ...

        Best LinkedIn WSO I bought was Preeti's, which I don't think is available any longer, but she did make a post here in the offline section that actually outlined was in the WSO believe it or not Link found

        I've found that most LinkedIn WSO's/courses have the same information.

        The strategy I posted here I haven't seen talked about in any WSO's I've checked out, so if someone takes it and improves on it that'd be interesting to see. :rolleyes:

        I also don't have a lot of experience, I just do A LOT of testing. I mean a lot, because I do small sample sized testing.

        When something isn't working almost immediately for me, I make a change until I get a better outcome. Once I'm getting a better outcome, make another change to get an even better result, and so on.

        PERSONAL CASE STUDY - LINKEDIN COLD MESSAGING
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        For example, keeping with LinkedIn, with my best 'cold messaging' via 
LinkedIn I've been able to get a response rate of 29% ... 14 cold 
messages sent, 4 responses received. 

Out of the 4 responses, 1 has allowed me to 'break-in' to their industry 
(video games) by doing some 'pro-bono' work ... so 25% response.

Anyway, I have about 15 messages I tweaked before arriving to the one to get 
me the 29% response rate.  

The initial message received 0 responses from a sample size of 50, like I 
said, I do small sample sizes, and if they aren't working fast, I make 
a change. 

The initial message was from the WSO. Was it saturated? Possibly, all I 
know is it didn't work to my liking, so I tweaked it. 

I tweaked that message and started receiving around 4 out of 50, which was
 better, but I still didn't like the results.

So, I tweaked the message again AND cut my sample sizes down to about 
20-30. My thinking was cutting down the sample size gives me a better 
opportunity to tweak a message sooner and contact a someone that might not 
have responded to a lower response message.

Anyway, I ramble a lot, but that's my experience with cold messaging on 
LinkedIn.

Not the best response rates, but it's how I do things, I track, tweak, and 
test my results. For me 29% response is better than 0%. ;)
        Getting back on track, I don't have and won't be making any WSO for LinkedIn.

        I'm having a hard enough time trying to get a successful business running as a marketing consultant... which I think I'll make a post about, since I need help.

        I get so much more gratification from freely helping than trying to think of the next WSO, so thanks for the compliment on being my first 'customer' for my 'wso' on LinkedIn, if I were going to release one. :rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author digitalworks01
          Originally Posted by dlink View Post

          That's awesome! Glad to help if it was my method that worked. As for a wso, nope no wso from me...

          Anyway, I have about 15 messages I tweaked before arriving to the one to get
          me the 29% response rate.

          The initial message received 0 responses from a sample size of 50, like I
          said, I do small sample sizes, and if they aren't working fast, I make
          a change.

          The initial message was from the WSO. Was it saturated? Possibly, all I
          know is it didn't work to my liking, so I tweaked it.
          Thanks again for these tips dlink, I appreciate it.
          Which WSO you are referring for the message you took? It would be great if you can provide the name of the wso.
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    • Profile picture of the author enterprisemind
      Thanks for sharing. Great information.

      Originally Posted by dlink View Post

      This is lengthy, and isn't revolutionary or anything, but this is my exact process step by step when I want to enter a new industry of professionals that I haven't targeted before on LinkedIn:

      THE METHOD
      1. I join 1 active open group and make sure that it's visible in my profile, join 2 if I feel it necessary, like I'm not getting into a closed group.
      I also check for quality conversations. I want there to be more conversations about the industry and from the professionals that work in it, than marketers and advertisers spamming "helpful" articles/services.
      2. I check the members in the group and see if I already have 1st & 2nd degree contacts in the group that work in that industry (using advanced search to narrow down).

      Code:
      This is optional, but if you find that you don't have any 1st or 2nd degree 
contacts in the open group, I recommend building your connections 
through TopLinked.
 
I've found lots of professionals in niches I go to break into that are open 
networkers. 
 
So you can usually have 1st & 2nd degree contacts without realizing it until
you try breaking into a new industry.
      3. Next, see what groups these 1st & 2nd degree contacts are in that are active closed groups, I've found there's more of a chance the admin will be active if the group is active.

      I personally only apply to 1 or 2 and wait about a full week for approval unless the admin has an automated message stating the wait could take longer than that. I've waited as long as 2-3 weeks for approval, patience is key for sure sometimes.

      I only apply to 1 or 2 because I want to make sure I get approved by at least 1 of them. I don't want to apply to all of the closed groups in the industry that I find at once and get rejected.
      4. Once approved, I make sure the closed group is visible on my profile and the open group is not.
      I only do this step because in my mind it seems like it brings credibility to your profile that you do actually work in the industry you're trying to get into the closed group for, it's worked for me.
      5. Then I apply to get in more closed groups, but I only keep 1-2 of them visible on my profile.

      I also only have 7 groups visible on my profile for 2 reasons:
      1. Because I believe that's all LinkedIn shows at once now
      2. When I'm trying to get accepted into a closed group, I want my profile groups to appear targeted for that industry for the admins that check profiles
      6. Lastly, I suggest having something about the industry you do work for on your profile. I can't really measure how well this worked for me because I've changed this a bit on my profile, but I think it helped.
      It said something like "who I do work for" in all caps, and a bullet list below that of about 8 industries I'd made contacts in, like lawyers, painters, plumbers, etc.
      So in your case I'd have something like

      Code:
      WHO I DO WORK FOR:
      • Health Professionals
        •
      I've changed it now to just 1 line about doing work for businesses/companies that advertise online, still works, but it seems like my accepted response was higher the other way, or maybe I was just targeting more industries so it seemed higher. I mainly have this little blurb in there for the admins that check profiles.

      Now, for a little statistics about how this works for me...

      MY CASE STUDY
      I originally was in 7 groups before I started actively using LinkedIn. 5 open, 2 closed.

      Now I'm in 43 total groups, so I joined 36 new groups. 27 are closed groups related to what I do, 23 are industry/niche related to build my business.

      Once I started being more active I came up with this method.

      I've only not been accepted into 4 closed groups that were industry related to build my business doing this. 3 took longer than 1-2 weeks to accept so I withdrew my request and 1 I was just flat out rejected, no biggie.

      So, overall I've been accepted into 85% of the industry/niche related closed groups I've applied to, for me that isn't bad.

      Of course, don't know how well this will work for you or anyone else, but this is how I do it and this is what works for me...so no crying to me that this doesn't work. :p

      Now getting paying clients that aren't trying to suck my time with free info is a different story.
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  • Profile picture of the author imsolutionsgroup
    Try starting your own group geared towards the professionals you are going after. Then, you don't have to worry about joining these other groups as much. Instead, you will have a new revenue/leads stream that you can control 100%!
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    • Profile picture of the author digitalworks01
      Originally Posted by imsolutionsgroup View Post

      Try starting your own group geared towards the professionals you are going after. Then, you don't have to worry about joining these other groups as much. Instead, you will have a new revenue/leads stream that you can control 100%!
      Thanks for the awesome idea, got your wso let me implement it immediately
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      • Profile picture of the author imsolutionsgroup
        Originally Posted by digitalworks01 View Post

        Thanks for the awesome idea, got your wso let me implement it immediately
        Great, if you have any questions or need help...please don't hesitate to ask.
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      • Profile picture of the author imsolutionsgroup
        Originally Posted by digitalworks01 View Post

        Thanks for the awesome idea, got your wso let me implement it immediately
        Great, if you have any question or need help...please don't hesitate to ask.
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        • Profile picture of the author Irish Intuition
          Some group managers are picky. I look at every person's profile
          who ask to join my group. Turn people down all the time.

          If I had a dental group and someone wanted to join and their
          profile said mobile website designer, I would not let them in.
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          • Profile picture of the author digitalworks01
            Originally Posted by Irish Intuition View Post

            Some group managers are picky. I look at every person's profile
            who ask to join my group. Turn people down all the time.

            If I had a dental group and someone wanted to join and their
            profile said mobile website designer, I would not let them in.
            I don't thing your post helped me on how to get accepted as a marketer and can by pass these groups and provide solutions for those closed group members to increase their business using my service, any how thanks for your opinion.
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            • Profile picture of the author Irish Intuition
              Originally Posted by digitalworks01 View Post

              I don't thing your post helped me on how to get accepted as a marketer and can by pass these groups and provide solutions for those closed group members to increase their business using my service, any how thanks for your opinion.
              My point is that there are groups you are not going to get into, ever.

              That said, there are many open groups as well as 'loose' groups
              that accept most anyone. Keep requesting to join ideal groups.

              Just don't spam post, or you will get kicked out.
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              • Profile picture of the author digitalworks01
                Originally Posted by Irish Intuition View Post

                My point is that there are groups you are not going to get into, ever.

                That said, there are many open groups as well as 'loose' groups
                that accept most anyone. Keep requesting to join ideal groups.

                Just don't spam post, or you will get kicked out.
                Yeah I know I won't spam and first give value to those groups like some tips/plrs and then do a warm pitch on my service why they need it..
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              • Profile picture of the author dlink
                Originally Posted by Irish Intuition View Post

                My point is that there are groups you are not going to get into, ever.

                That said, there are many open groups as well as 'loose' groups
                that accept most anyone. Keep requesting to join ideal groups.

                Just don't spam post, or you will get kicked out.
                I agree with Irish .. there are groups you won't ever get into, and for those it's usually best to read the descriptions of criteria prior to applying. That's something else I also do that I didn't mention before.. I read the descriptions.

                For example, if the groups says I need to be part of such & such association, I know I won't be getting in ... there's been a time or two where I was curious to see if I'd get into a group that had strict criteria using my method.. It's worked, but sometimes the legwork is probably more hassle than it's worth.

                For example, I've gotten accepted into groups where I had to write the admin a message about why I should be accepted into the group.

                So if the criteria in the description seems like it might be too much work to get accepted, such as being part of an association or something, might be best to move along since you likely won't get in.

                Originally Posted by digitalworks01 View Post

                Thanks again for these tips dlink, I appreciate it.
                Which WSO you are referring for the message you took? It would be great if you can provide the name of the wso.
                This one and that's not an affiliate link, plus the WSO is closed.

                You might be able to PM Preeti and see if she has any tips for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Niks24
    Sometimes it takes time to accept your request in Groups but try to search for open groups as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author whossain
    I think it just takes time.It will be okay within 4 or 5 days.Just be patience.
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  • Profile picture of the author IndraWiraa
    Sometimes it takes time to accept your request in Groups within one week but try to contact the admin then explain to the admin why interested to join as well.
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