Multi-million dollar story

by cash89
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Sooo there's something i've been thinking about for a bit. I have a friend who has an important story to be told. This is a non-fiction story about something that her and her family have gone through, that has also gathered national attention from the media, highest levels of government (supreme court, fbi, cia, homeland security), and millions of citizens.

I've always told my friend that they need to write a book about their story. I want to help but I have no experience in the publishing world. Anybody have anything that could help me and others out?
#dollar #literary #multimillion #publishing #story #writing a book
  • Profile picture of the author jking1
    Tell him to write an Ebook . You can hire any good writer from Warrior Hire Section.
    Once it ready, submit it to ClickBank or Publish on Warrior Forum as WSO Guide.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by jking1 View Post

      Tell him to write an Ebook . You can hire any good writer from Warrior Hire Section.
      Once it ready, submit it to ClickBank or Publish on Warrior Forum as WSO Guide.
      Wow... either you didn't read the OP or you're incompetent.

      You could shop the idea to publishing companies to look for a deal, other than that, I'm not sure. There are others that have experience working with book releases though. Ebooks, would be an awful idea.
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      • Profile picture of the author leeannprice
        I am an Amazon and Kindle published author, and there are people like myself that can help your friend write their book.

        I not only know how to get the book written, edited, formatted properly, but I know how to market it.

        I can't say whether or not it's a multi-million dollar story, but given the right marketing, it sounds like something Hollywood might be interested in...
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    • Profile picture of the author Becker13
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      Originally Posted by jking1 View Post

      Tell him to write an Ebook . You can hire any good writer from Warrior Hire Section.
      Once it ready, submit it to ClickBank or Publish on Warrior Forum as WSO Guide.
      hahahahahaha
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  • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
    It has Hollywood movie story written all over it.

    Judging by how well the Erin_Brockovich story did.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Brockovich_(film)

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    Originally Posted by cash89 View Post

    Sooo there's something i've been thinking about for a bit. I have a friend who has an important story to be told. This is a non-fiction story about something that her and her family have gone through, that has also gathered national attention from the media, highest levels of government (supreme court, fbi, cia, homeland security), and millions of citizens.

    I've always told my friend that they need to write a book about their story. I want to help but I have no experience in the publishing world. Anybody have anything that could help me and others out?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    Originally Posted by cash89 View Post

    Sooo there's something i've been thinking about for a bit. I have a friend who has an important story to be told. This is a non-fiction story about something that her and her family have gone through, that has also gathered national attention from the media, highest levels of government (supreme court, fbi, cia, homeland security), and millions of citizens.

    I've always told my friend that they need to write a book about their story. I want to help but I have no experience in the publishing world. Anybody have anything that could help me and others out?
    Google literary agents and start making calls. You'll never get into
    a publishing house without an agent. Forget all this Kindle and ebook
    nonsense... if your friend has a compelling story to tell you need to
    find someone with experience in this whole process. A good agent can
    direct you.
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  • Profile picture of the author cash89
    Thanks for all the input! This story definitely has hollywood potential! I don't want to say what it relates to, most people would actually remember hearing about, that's how big this event was.

    I've tried calling some literary agents in the past, they are hard to get in touch with, but I am going to contact more. I know some of the steps, manuscript needs to be written, sent to the right publisher, writer selected (my friend is not a writer).

    I am also wondering what my official role will be. Would I be one of the agents? What I was thinking of doing was selecting an agent to work with so I can become familiar with the process.

    Also, should I get my friend to sign something saying that I represent them? Should I have them sign the rights to the story over to me? Or should I get something signed that entitles me to a fee or percentage? It's not that i'm looking to make money off of my friend, I just know that it will take a lot of work and I don't work for free, I just want to protect myself also.

    Thanks again all input is appreciated!
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    • Profile picture of the author The Dead Guy
      Originally Posted by cash89 View Post

      I am also wondering what my official role will be. Would I be one of the agents? What I was thinking of doing was selecting an agent to work with so I can become familiar with the process.
      I'm not familiar with the world of publishing, but I do have experience with TV/Film.

      If the writer was an entertainer, you would be acting as manager. There is a difference between an agent and a manager. A manager handles the day to day operations and works as a liaison between the performer and agents, publicists, media, public, etc. Managers do all the leg work.

      A manager is always looking out for the best interest of the client. They never negotiate monetary deals, but they do research and scout out the best possible partners (agents) and deals.

      Like I said, this is how it works with TV/Film performers. May be different in the world of publishing.
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  • Profile picture of the author cash89
    @nameless & becker, that one made me lol too
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    • Profile picture of the author leeannprice
      Kindle and Amazon publishing isn't nonsense. There are authors who have never been represented by major publishing houses who are quite successful. I personally know these people.

      I have contacted literary agents in the past and while they can help you, it's a long, slow road to publication. If you can get an agent interested, that is.

      In the meantime, you could be published on Amazon, on Kindle and marketing your book properly so that it's seen by producers, and the media...

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      • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
        Originally Posted by leeannprice View Post

        Kindle and Amazon publishing isn't nonsense. There are authors who have never been represented by major publishing houses who are quite successful. I personally know these people.

        I have contacted literary agents in the past and while they can help you, it's a long, slow road to publication. If you can get an agent interested, that is.

        In the meantime, you could be published on Amazon, on Kindle and marketing your book properly so that it's seen by producers, and the media...

        Lee Ann
        Anyone can publish a book on Amazon. For something like the OP is describing, that is an absurd way to go about this.

        The media doesn't care about ebooks. Producers? I think you don't really understand the industry.
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  • Profile picture of the author digichik
    50 Shades of Grey, this book started as an ebook, and is now the best selling book on Kindle ever. Yes, ebook is definitely something to consider. You can make lots of money this way.

    It can kind of be like that show 'Shark Tank', you may have to prove salability of the book before you will get the interest and financial backing of a literary agent. Have a look at the following link --

    50 Shades of Grey
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  • Profile picture of the author cash89
    So let's just say that I would consider doing an ebook first and then using that to get a publishers attention (which I am not considering yet), what steps would I take.

    I assume that I would first need to have some kind of contract or agreement drawn up to protect the both of us. What kind of an agreement should I look for and who should I get to do it for me?

    I guess I would then look for a writer or a ghost writer, where can I find a good one? And i'm not talking about someones cousins who has a friend of a friend. The book I am talking about def has blockbuster potential.

    I suppose I could also approach an already well know writer that has already been published and has a successful track record. Anyone have any insight into this? I think i will also look around on some book and writing forums for some more info.
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  • Profile picture of the author digichik
    You are going to have to use Google to find some of the answers you are looking for. The answers are there. The author James Patterson uses ghost and guest writers for a lot of his books. Go to Amazon or Barnes and Noble and look at some of his book, get their names and try to reach them.

    As for literary and business contracts, look for entertainment industry attorneys. If you are serious about this, you are going to have to get out there and do lots of research yourself. Again, Google is a good place to start, especially to find out what questions you should even be asking.
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  • Profile picture of the author misterme
    Pick up a copy of the Writer's Market. You can get it at Amazon, most libraries have it too. It'll list the publishers, what genre they're looking for and who to submit a query to. You can also find literary agents in it. You'll need to probably have an outline of the book and a sample chapter so they can get a taste of what the book's about and it's style. You'lll have the book ghostwritten. If you need more info, let me know. I have a couple of NY Times best selling authors in my contact circle. I can't promise anything, though.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      If your friends are well known, a book deal with a major publisher will be a snap. Most books are actually written by a co-author that gets second billing. The family would simply give a series of interviews and the co-author would edit it, and put it into a book.

      Then the publishing house would help get interviews and personal appearances.
      An agent would help a lot. And this is exactly the kind of book agents look for.

      Seriously, our Createspace books aren't going to sell like a national tell-all.
      And to do it right they should get an experienced agent.
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  • Profile picture of the author cash89
    Thanks digichik & misterme this is the kind of stuff i'm looking for, and what others will apreciate when they stumble onto this thread.

    I don't mind doing the research, im on the computer all day, and it would all be worth it if I can get a mainstream book publish and get a fat check. I might end up becoming a part time literary agent! lol
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  • Profile picture of the author cash89
    My friend isn't well known, it's the story that is. Like it said it was all over the news and dealt with government at the highest level. President Bush was even involved in the story. My friend was approach a couple years ago but didn't want to do it at the time. Now they want me to help them.

    Claude, if I did what you just said, what do you think my role in the whole process would be? What would I need to do? What would you do in my position if you had a friend with a huge story like this to tell?
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by cash89 View Post

      Claude, if I did what you just said, what do you think my role in the whole process would be? What would I need to do? What would you do in my position if you had a friend with a huge story like this to tell?
      If it were really my friend? I would help them get in touch with a book agent, and step aside. The agent will handle all the publisher meetings, get them the best deal, and the publisher will arrange everything from printing to distribution.

      A real friend offers help until they are out of their field of expertise.

      I'm flattered that you asked my opinion on this.
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      You need to look up literary agents, or publishing houses that have recently published something similar. Writer's Digest, Poets and Writers, Writers' Journal often have info on how to contact and who to contact.

      Or you get The Writer's Market.

      Agents and publishers specialize. No point in contacting one that specializes in Christian fiction for teens and religious studies and translations from Polish.

      Also, pay attention to how they want to be contacted. If they say send an email but no attachment, send an email but no attachment.

      If they say, 'Add a blank page after every paragraph and scratch your left ear,' add a blank page after every paragraph and scratch your left ear.

      Reason for doing exactly what they ask: if they're good, they get 1,475 more queries a week that they can handle.

      For short pieces, most of them want a 1-page query that shows them that you know what they specialize in and why your project is likely to excite (ahem, make them buy), their target audience and, most importantly, that you (the writer) can write and are qualified to write about the subject you've selected.

      For long pieces, they want the same + a sample chapter and a darn good outline. This means, you've got to have it thought out quite well.
      (query letters to literary agents).

      Poets and Writers ran about a year ago a series of interviews with literary agents (one of the questions was about what makes them decide to bother with someone). Some of the answers will surprise you: common sense you've forgotten you had.

      At every point, keep in mind that, whether you're approaching an editor or an agent, you're proposing a monetary transaction, so they're always thinking What's the ROI on the time I invest reading this query? Asking this writer for the whole book?
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      • Profile picture of the author leeannprice
        I certainly do know the film industry, I happen to have a screenwriting coach and I've personally submitted screenplays to production houses.

        I do know what they're looking for.

        And it's NOT just major publishing houses. For them, it has to be marketable, but also it has to be a good story. And they don't give a hoot if you're published or not.
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        • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
          Originally Posted by leeannprice View Post

          I certainly do know the film industry, I happen to have a screenwriting coach and I've personally submitted screenplays to production houses.

          I do know what they're looking for.

          And it's NOT just major publishing houses. For them, it has to be marketable, but also it has to be a good story. And they don't give a hoot if you're published or not.
          Ah... so because I made a video before, that must mean I'm an expert director based on your logic of submitting screenplays to production houses. And if you knew what they're looking for, your statement would have been phrased a bit differently instead of saying you just submitted them. Anyone can submit press releases, but does that make you a publicist?

          I highly recommend against taking the advice of amateurs or wanna be's when it comes to this.... Seek out real professionals in this field, not just lurkers on WF, cash89. I also don't mean that to be any offense to anyone else here, Claude has experience, I just recommend finding someone who does this for a living.
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          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
            Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

            Seek out real professionals in this field, not just lurkers on WF, cash89. I also don't mean that to be any offense to anyone else here, Claude has experience, I just recommend finding someone who does this for a living.
            Iamnameless: Did you think I was thinking of myself to help the OP? Nope, way out of my field. I meant a literary agent.

            But yeah, the vast majority of us have no real experience getting agents and getting books published by major publishers. I sure don't.

            I'm just happy he spelled my name right.:rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author sandalwood
    Originally Posted by cash89 View Post

    Sooo there's something i've been thinking about for a bit. I have a friend who has an important story to be told. This is a non-fiction story about something that her and her family have gone through, that has also gathered national attention from the media, highest levels of government (supreme court, fbi, cia, homeland security), and millions of citizens.

    I've always told my friend that they need to write a book about their story. I want to help but I have no experience in the publishing world. Anybody have anything that could help me and others out?
    I've read all the advice and it all has potential. Here are my questions:

    1) How old of a story is it?
    2) What is the hook that would get me to even read a book review?
    3) You mention quite a cast of characters and even said they were approached about doing a book. Why didn't they do it then and what makes them think their story is so riveting a book about them or their story or both would sell?
    4) When I read the cast of characters in your parenthesis above, I start getting butterflies. They don't play nice if the publicity is real bad about them. Ask Bradley Manning. Why would they jeopardize their current status?
    5) Why wouldn't you contact some of the people who first contacted them? They might still hold an interest.
    6) If I think of more q's, I'll ask.

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  • Profile picture of the author cash89
    @nameless, sometimes you gotta sift through some dirt to find gold much of the info here has helped. The one you mentioned made me laugh, had no value at all.

    @Tom, thanks those are great questions

    1) events took place from 2006 to 2009
    2) hook, millions followed this story, it has controversy, people got over 40 years in prison
    3) At the time they were approached they were still dealing with the events, no they want their story to be heard.
    4) those people that were in the government will not be contributing to the writing, they are involved in the story.
    5) haven't thought of that, i will weigh the pros and cons of that
    6) keep em comin, thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Saulric
    Taking a complete guess here but the first thing I thought of was the Russian spies from a few years ago.

    If I am correct do I win a prize? Lol.
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    Awesome idea - love it
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    • Profile picture of the author MarkJez
      Hi Cash89,

      In summer 2012, I was at an internet marketing event near London, UK.

      One of the speakers spoke about what makes a good story a massive success - have worldwide appeal, and sell millions of copies....

      He said it is all down to ONE word, and he invited people in the audience to guess what the word was....

      People said adventure, romance, mystery, humor, excitement. etc. etc.

      He said everyone was wrong

      Eventually, a chap at the back of the room shouted out "STRUGGLE".

      The speaker said: correct.

      In other words, if the story is about how someone (or a group of people) have faced massive obstacles, but have overcome them, then the book is likely to have worldwide mass appeal.

      This is because people like to see how others cope with problems that are far, far greater than their own problems.

      The theme of "STRUGGLING" and trying to overcome seemingly insurmountable obstacles can be clearly seen in block-buster hits such as:

      Titanic

      Avatar

      The Impossible

      The Passion of the Christ.

      127 Hours

      Saving Private Ryan.

      Jaws

      The Great Escape.

      The Battle of Britain.

      Batman.

      Pearl Harbor

      Etc, etc.

      If you approach your friend's story with the mindset of "struggle" and how they came through despite the odds stacked against them - then it is more likely IMHO to hit the big time, as opposed to being relegated to specialist interest groups!

      In addition, if the book focuses in on a particular human element, as well as the big picture, then it is likely to sell more copies. Example: James Cameron's Titanic movie focused on a love story as well as the giant ship slowly sinking. Merging these two stories (i.e. struggle) was one of the reasons why this film had such universal appeal.
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