Has anyone had success with autodialers?

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Hey guys,

I recently started experimenting with autodialers as a new way to prospect for clients, but ended up with dismal results. I tried 2 methods - 1 is the shotgun method where I called thousands of people and sent them a pretty generic message. The other one is tailored to each specific industry.

I expected method 2 to outshine method 1. For method 2, I'd actually create the marketing campaign and rank it before calling. I use call tracking and I know that the campaigns I'm wanting to lease already generate proven leads. Many of these campaigns rank very high on the SERP's for competitive terms.

My messages were simple in both cases - I'd ask if the business owner was interested in marketing campaigns that are guaranteed to generate additional leads for his or her company. For campaigns I have already created, I will divulge a bit more data such as how many leads I've received. But overall I try to keep the messages very short and to the point, and asked the business owner to press 1 to speak to me if they'd like more info. I've hired professional voice talents as well as recorded messages myself as a split test.

Both methods failed miserably for me. The only messages I ever get are ones that ask to be removed from the list, or, worse yet, full of profanity.

My first conclusion was that business owners just hate to receive these automated messages. But I know there are IM'ers out there successfully prospecting with this method. So maybe I'm doing something wrong or the angle I'm approaching the method is wrong.

Has anyone ever had success with prospecting with autodialers and if so, can you please share some tips?

Thanks,
Sherry
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  • Profile picture of the author Voasi
    Hi Sherry,

    I'm actually releasing a course on this launching on Jan. 8th!!

    Giving away something for free is one of the best ways. Getting specific is definitely the right direction - also putting in a specific "case study" helps with conversions too. For instance...

    "...we generated 100 phone calls for ABC Plumber Company in 3 weeks..."

    Scarcity is another good addition to your message:

    "...only looking to work with 1 plumber in Los Angeles..."

    Voice talent is DEFINITELY not necessary. I've had my girlfriend record my messages and they would convert.

    Business owners don't necessarily "LIKE" to be sold to, so that's why I try to offer something for free. Not your standard "free websites analysis"... that's BS. Everyone does that, so you should try and be a little more creative. It can still work, but it's better if you try and offer something uniquely free from your company.

    Unfortunately, profanity is part of the game with using auto-dialers. Like I said, they don't want to be sold and typically hate sales calls, so it's important to make your offer you put on your calls THE BEST YOU'VE EVER OFFERED in the HISTORY OF YOUR COMPANY.
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    • Profile picture of the author bluecoyotemedia
      Originally Posted by Voasi View Post

      Hi Sherry,

      I'm actually releasing a course on this launching on Jan. 8th!!

      Giving away something for free is one of the best ways. Getting specific is definitely the right direction - also putting in a specific "case study" helps with conversions too. For instance...

      "...we generated 100 phone calls for ABC Plumber Company in 3 weeks..."

      Scarcity is another good addition to your message:

      "...only looking to work with 1 plumber in Los Angeles..."

      Voice talent is DEFINITELY not necessary. I've had my girlfriend record my messages and they would convert.

      Business owners don't necessarily "LIKE" to be sold to, so that's why I try to offer something for free. Not your standard "free websites analysis"... that's BS. Everyone does that, so you should try and be a little more creative. It can still work, but it's better if you try and offer something uniquely free from your company.

      Unfortunately, profanity is part of the game with using auto-dialers. Like I said, they don't want to be sold and typically hate sales calls, so it's important to make your offer you put on your calls THE BEST YOU'VE EVER OFFERED in the HISTORY OF YOUR COMPANY.

      I will be looking out for that course because I think it's the one I am so excited about not knowing what i am excited for

      have you had any experience with using celebrity voices for the initial robocalls???
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      • Profile picture of the author Voasi
        Originally Posted by bluecoyotemedia View Post

        I will be looking out for that course because I think it's the one I am so excited about not knowing what i am excited for

        have you had any experience with using celebrity voices for the initial robocalls???
        No, but Russ and I were talking about doing that the other day. There are a TON of people that do voiceover talent on Fiverr, it's nuts. I may give it a try and see if I get a response.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rearden
    Waste of time -- only was good for B2C before the Feds starting fining folks.

    There's so many reasons why it robo-dialing B2B sucks. Just pick up the phone and ask for the owner, or just walk in cold.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kilterman
    Hello,
    We have used an autodialer in the past and hired low wage employees a commission structure to make cash with. I suggest you sit a person in a chair with a pc and a cell phone and hand them a script. =)
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      I used an autodialer years ago. We ended up with 5,000 calls a day. Maybe a few hundred answers and a couple of leads. You have to go through all the "I hate you" stuff to get to the actual leads. And the quality of leads was very low. I mean, who responds to a recorded message? I think after a month, I made one completed $1,000 sale.

      Maybe technology is so different now, it's simpler and you don't have to go through the junk to get to the good ones.

      On the other hand, in 1976, I worked for a company that hired three girls to give FAKE recorded messages. They were selling fire alarms to homeowners. They actually got results from that. But again, the quality was low.

      Personally, I would be too excited about the leads. Butt this was years ago. Again, maybe something has changed.
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      • Profile picture of the author DABK
        I get them. As soon as I realize it's a recorded message, I hang up. Doesn't matter what they said till that point. I hate them with a passion.

        I think that, if you want my business, you must have the decency of talking to me, not at me...

        I really hate it if they call while I'm in the middle of something... which is usually the case...

        There's just no good time to use telephonic automation on me, it seems.

        I get some that start with something to the effect that they have something important to say to me... I always think, if it was important, you'd have had a live person calling.
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        • Profile picture of the author ronr
          I've used it to call specific niches offering website services for a family member who was creating websites. Sure got a low percentage who were interested but who cares. The dialer faced the rejection not a live caller and almost all who wanted to be taken off the list just pushed the appropriate button on their phone to be removed automatically. The calls were cheap to have the dialer call them so it's profitable.

          One of the keys is to sound like an ordinary person, don't try to sound super professional and also don't make your message generic, make it specific to an industry. Also target niches where the owner is most like to answer the phone.

          Hope this helps.

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  • Profile picture of the author Marvin Johnston
    I'm probably not your typical client, but I either hang up as soon as I hear a tape recorded message, or boycott them for life. I have a major problem with interruption marketing when there is absolutely no effort made on the other side.

    After many of the professional telemarketing comments made in this forum, I've become a bit more tolerant of live callers .

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  • Profile picture of the author xlfutur1
    I did a voice broadcast using OpenVBX a few weeks ago to realtors in my area (about 45) offering a free video for one of their listings and got 7 call backs that left messages for me. Almost all called back to the inbound message, but the majority hung up after listening for varying lengths of the outgoing message.

    I think If you make it sound like you are leaving voicemail message it is perceived to be less robo-call like, mainly because they they have no way of knowing you robocalled them. Totally depends on the niche though, and what you have to offer.

    I could see it working for leaving messages on answering machines regarding a niche website you have that ranks well. Everything is a testing game anyway though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sherry Han
    Thanks everyone for your valuable input and insights. Just as I expected, most business owners hate prerecorded messages, myself included. I don't blame them. I would hang up as well, although I would never leave a message just to spew profanity.

    I initially viewed autodialing campaigns as numbers games, and honestly it didn't cost much time or money to try, so I don't regret it even if it's for nothing more than the learning experience. It would be nice if it generated even one sale, and I might keep trying different niches to see if that's my issue. Besides the untargeted generic calls, I have tried target several specific niches, namely chiropractors and locksmiths. The chiropractors all had gatekeepers and I never got a single message back, while locksmiths did answer their own calls but boy were they an angry bunch!

    The answering machine trick is a good idea. I did try this with either the chiro's or locksmiths, not sure which, but I don't think it did as it was intended. Calls were still being picked up by recipients. I was using Mark Helton's Voice Prospector so maybe I set up something wrong. Back to the drawing board for me!
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  • Profile picture of the author JaffeyApple
    That was a cute concept that could still work now with an autodialler to targeted businesses.

    @Claude Whitacre - On the other hand, in 1976, I worked for a company that hired three girls to give FAKE recorded messages. They were selling fire alarms to homeowners. They actually got results from that. But again, the quality was low.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Autodialers are good for monitoring remote telemarketers, or large rooms where you cant directly look over peoples shoulders, you can sit at a desk and watch everyones stats from a monitor in real time, or you can click a button and be in the headphones with any individual in the room.

    In Bowers room though, which I have written about, we didnt use dialers, that is rare for a large room, rather we had a few lower level supervisors who monitored different areas of the room, because it was sizable.

    Dialing alone, I prefer manual, because you dont get dropped calls, awkward greetings with delays....these are all things that telemarketers learn to pace themselves and deal with, but conversion is higher for me when I manual dial.

    If your ARE going to use a dialer alone, be sure to set the callback number to another line with an answering machine, because you will get maybe two dropped calls for every answer you get on the phone, and that can be slightly advantageous, because people will be ringing you back all day, and leaving messages and phone numbers on the caller ID constantly.

    Those can be treated kind of like call backs.

    When you call them back it gives you a little leverage in the greeting because you can say "I had this number show up on my caller ID , I was just wondering if I could help you?" They will ask "Who are you?" and it gives you an opening to start pitching.

    The call backs from dropped calls, though a few are ticked, are even more valuable than the cold calls, because of that opportunity to open, and because on a subconscious level, you ARE simply returning a call, even though on a conscious one thats not really how it is...

    So one benefit with dialing alone, using a dialer, is that you can make lemonade out of the dropped calls. Be sure to turn the ringer off on that extra line, because it will ring all day.

    Of course Im referring to a "predictive" dialer actually, not AUTO, but people use the term loosely.

    All in all , I personally like manual for dialing alone, because it allows you to anticipate and prepave each greeting... picture the name in your head a few seconds before hand...it seems like I have better energy on greetings manual dialing, and that makes sense. If you are rolling with a dialer though, you get use to delays, conversions just arent as high at the greeting generally.

    -John

    Another thing is that you can write a killer answering machine message on the call back line, and it will blow up all day with people getting the message. that can result in a sale here or there. Every sale counts.

    Edit: Wooops, you WERE talking about "auto"....sorry.
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