Would you like to dance?...and other great opening lines

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Sometimes we give far too much thought to what it is we need to say the first time we get our prospect on the phone. Reading through the many threads on this forum you'll find a plethora of tips and techniques. In many cases the author makes the claim that his suggestion is the not only the best, but once you master its use, you'll be a non-stop selling machine. That is of course, provided you purchase his WSO!

There is no single way to do anything. However, some ways are better than others. In the wide, wide world of phone sales, we have a very few seconds to establish what is viewed by many to be virtually impossible. That is to say, in these very few first seconds we need to:

Gain their attention
Establish rapport
Engage the prospect in our presentation

In sales, it's important that we remain our best natural selves. This holds true on the phone, as much as it does in any face to face situation. Too many people falsely believe that the phone puts them at an extreme disadvantage because they can't let the prospect see they are smiling or have a pleasant demeanor. The fact of the matter is that every bit of your personality and your attitude is clearly visible to the person on the receiving end of the phone, sometimes it's merely from the tone of your voice.

If my middle school son asked me how he should approach a girl he had a crush on at the school dance, I would give him the same advice I give the sales people that I have the opportunity to train and coach. I would tell him to walk up to her, stand up straight, smile, and say: "Would you like to dance?"

There's not a doubt in my mind that that simple question, which is direct and gets right to the point, will have the two of them sharing a juice box at lunch the next school day.

The questions, statements, or opening lines that wouldn't work for a boy asking a girl to dance, are the same for the professional sales person. If your son asked you for this same advice would you suggest any of these:

"The reason I walked past the potato chip table, circled your friends three times and finally am standing here in front of you is because I was wondering if you would like to dance with me."

"Hi Mary, I just wanted to touch base with you and see if you wanted to dance?"

"Hi Mary, how are you?"

Suggest any of those to your kid and....No juice box for him!

For those who think that information like this only applies to your kid who may be going to his first school dance, think about how many calls you've made that began with any of these phrases, or how many times you've bristled when a sales person calls you and says:

I wanted to touch base
How are you
The reason I called
I just wanted to call because
I was wondering if

Now, let's bring this to our world. Let's suppose you sell mobile websites. You spend a few minutes looking for a business that doesn't have a mobile version of their website. You find one that doesn't, you spend another couple of minutes reviewing their desktop site, you take a deep breath, pick up the phone and say to Joe:

Hi Joe, how are you? My name is Bob Saleszinsky from Saleszinsky and Company Offline Marketing Consultants and Web Site Mavens. I'm a mobile site designer and I've helped many other chicken wing stores like yours increase their sales by 50% by building a mobile site for them. I wanted to reach out because I noticed you didn't have a mobile website.

If you think the above phone conversation is far fetched, the fact is that tens of thousand of calls to businesses begin that way every day of the week. It's one reason that many people have to make 100's of calls before an appointment or a sale. Put yourself in the position of receiving end of that call. Are you listening to it or just waiting for it to end before you hang up? I promise that the only way you would take interest in that call is if you heard the phrase "mobile site" and you really, really, really, really, really wanted a mobile site for your business. Other than that, no juice box for the salesman.

Taking that introduction/opening apart is a simple matter.

Hi Joe, how are you?
General wisdom says this is announcing you're a salesperson. However, in parts of NY and virtually all of NJ every sentence begins with "how ya doin'?"

My name is Bob Saleszinsky from Saleszinsky and Company Offline Marketing Consultants and Web Site Mavens.
Joe doesn't care who you are or what company you're calling from. Would you?

I'm a mobile site designer.
Joe thinks "Good for you, your parents must be proud."

I've helped helped many other chicken wing stores like yours increase their sales by 50% by building a mobile site for them.
Joe has probably stopped listening anyway and he probably has zero interest in what you've done for someone else. Yes, it might be a good idea for Joe to know that a mobile site can help him, but he doesn't care, you're boring the man to death!

I wanted to reach out because I noticed you didn't have a mobile website.
Joe doesn't care that you wanted to reach out but he does admire your keen sense of the obvious.

People like to do business with people they like, and people who are like them. People who they like and people who are like them do not babble out the bullshit like the little script above.

Here's a slightly, and I think better approach to get Joe to pay attention to you.

Hi Joe, Dave Miller. I'm a marketing consultant and I wanted to talk to you about a mobile version of your website.

That's it. No magic, no tricks, no reaching out, wondering, reason for my call, or I just called because!

Taking it apart:

Hi Joe, Dave Miller.
Said in a the right tone, I may be a customer, or friend. I may also be a salesman. But unless Joe is a complete moron, he's not going to be rude. In fact, he should and usually does say, "Hey, how are you?" (Go figure, putting the "how are you?" on the other foot)

I'm a marketing consultant and I wanted to talk to you about a mobile version of your website.
In one short sentence I've told him what I do and why I'm calling. Granted, he may already have a mobile site, but it took me less time to find that out this way then hunting and pecking around the web, keying URL's into my smart phone.

Now if this thread continues, I'd like to see what things you believe should never be said, what you think should be said...and some of your favorite opening lines....but please don't jump in to let us know that you hate you phone. I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't care if you hate the phone.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    You can say almost anything you want...but newbies frequently have no idea what to say.

    And most importantly, they don't know how to say it.

    "Hi Joe, it's (your name)," needs to be said with real friendliness.

    You certainly can mention what you'd like to talk about directly. And you must have a response to "What about it?" ready to go.

    I like what you have to say about getting on the phone and talking to people, instead of doing time-wasting "research". Call and find out. It's much faster.

    One of my favorite opening lines with a new prospect is "I'm not sure we should be speaking." They lean right into the call.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Miller
      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      You can say almost anything you want...but newbies frequently have no idea what to say.

      And most importantly, they don't know how to say it.

      "Hi Joe, it's (your name)," needs to be said with real friendliness.

      You certainly can mention what you'd like to talk about directly. And you must have a response to "What about it?" ready to go.

      I like what you have to say about getting on the phone and talking to people, instead of doing time-wasting "research". Call and find out. It's much faster.

      One of my favorite opening lines with a new prospect is "I'm not sure we should be speaking." They lean right into the call.
      Great stuff Jason, but I'm only talking about the opener. What gets their attention and keeps them on the phone. Goes without saying that you must have information at the ready to launch into a cohesive presentation or to set an appointment.

      I only wanted to point out that too many sales people never get the chance because they don't get past "hello."
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      • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
        Originally Posted by David Miller View Post

        Great stuff Jason, but I'm only talking about the opener. What gets their attention and keeps them on the phone. Goes without saying that you must have information at the ready to launch into a cohesive presentation or to set an appointment.

        I only wanted to point out that too many sales people never get the chance because they don't get past "hello."
        "David, it's Jason Kanigan. ...I'm not sure we should be speaking. Reception sent me to you because they thought you were the person in charge of (the company's mobile website, marketing, whatever)...but I'm not sure if that is under your umbrella..."

        And they will either respond positively, or direct me on to the right person, often with an intro!

        Even if David doesn't introduce me, but just shoots the call along, I can say to Fred, "Hi Fred, not sure if we should be speaking...I was just talking to David, and he suggested you might be the person to talk about this." (My credibility just went up because of the 'referral.') "I'm looking for the person who takes care of..."

        Now we can have our conversation.

        Mostly, the opening lines are about being yourself and being relaxed. Getting out of your own way is the best method to begin a call.

        You can open with a raspy, "Hi brotha, this is Jason, how you doin' today? I want to talk to you about your fiber," and if you say it as You, it'll work.
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  • Profile picture of the author misterme
    "The reason I walked past the potato chip table, circled your friends three times and finally am standing here in front of you is because I was wondering if you would like to dance with me."
    Sounds more like a line from a Hugh Grant movie.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rearden
    David -- only way I can think of improving your "Dance" opener is to offer your hand along with asking. Little more of an assumptive close.

    The opener I use is, "Hi Mr. Jones. My name is Rearden and I'm with Rearden Insurance. I'm here because *you* sent in this card here (hand it to them to see); most people send it in because they are either interested in *life* insurance or *burial* insurance. I'm the agent in the area that handles that, and like to take a few minutes to go over it with you."

    This is face-to-face.

    If I'm calling over the phone, I practically say the same thing, with a little more inflection and perhaps a slightly slower cadence, and request an appointment.

    I attempt to turn around appointment objections just once.

    PS: Do you address your prospect with which company you're with?
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    • Profile picture of the author David Miller
      Originally Posted by Rearden View Post


      PS: Do you address your prospect with which company you're with?
      The only time I'll mention my company name is if I'm calling on a referral since there would be a frame of reference. If I'm calling a cold suspect, my company name is not important right off the bat.
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      • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
        Originally Posted by David Miller View Post

        The only time I'll mention my company name is if I'm calling on a referral
        In my neck of the woods, (FL) you are required by law to announce your company name within 60 seconds.
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        • Profile picture of the author David Miller
          Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

          In my neck of the woods, (FL) you are required by law to announce your company name within 60 seconds.
          That's even required if you're calling out to other states and it's enforced by the Florida Dept of Agriculture....very strange if you ask me, but I don't do any business in Florida.

          Looks like it's been busy down there! State investigators crack down on illegal telemarketers - Tampa Bay Times
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          • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
            Originally Posted by David Miller View Post

            That's even required if you're calling out to other states and it's enforced by the Florida Dept of Agriculture....very strange if you ask me, but I don't do any business in Florida.

            Looks like it's been busy down there! State investigators crack down on illegal telemarketers - Tampa Bay Times
            Yeah, FL has some really.. really F - up laws.

            Some to our benefit... some not. If you have a bizz here and you don't have an adviser
            on the laws you are a moron. OR, just too green to know better.

            FYI ... I read that article, and unlicensed telemarketer is code for cold caller.
            In FL you have to have a LIC for cold calling. ( residential )
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  • Profile picture of the author ckbank
    I've been in sales for a while. I've been trained to introduce myself and then go on to asking questions. In sales, IMO, it's easier to sell if you do more listening than talking.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Miller
      Originally Posted by ckbank View Post

      I've been in sales for a while. I've been trained to introduce myself and then go on to asking questions. In sales, IMO, it's easier to sell if you do more listening than talking.
      That's why I have a one sentence introduction that clearly states my name, and the reason I'm calling. The purpose of this is to gain attention and establish rapport (to a degree, from your demeanor and tone) and establish a reason to engage.

      Lately some of the threads have been breaking the process into bite size pieces. I think that's a great idea.

      I agree with your statement 100% and if you'd care to start a thread that speaks to how you go about asking those questions I know it would very welcome information.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rearden
    David -- will you set an a face-to-face appointment with a prospect that is not in the buying cycle yet, but is interested in buying a product/service like the one you're offering on the cold call, but in the future?

    More importantly, at what point in the call do you set the appointment, face-to-face, and under what conditions?
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    • Profile picture of the author David Miller
      Originally Posted by Rearden View Post

      David -- will you set an a face-to-face appointment with a prospect that is not in the buying cycle yet, but is interested in buying a product/service like the one you're offering on the cold call, but in the future?
      No I don't see why I or anyone would want to. If someone says they are interested but not until the future, my normal reaction is that it's most likely just a stall. Of course, this depends on what it is you're selling. But speaking of the products typically discussed in this forum, it makes no sense.

      However, I'd try to uncover what's really going on and see if I can move them into a buying cycle.

      Originally Posted by Rearden View Post

      More importantly, at what point in the call do you set the appointment, face-to-face, and under what conditions?
      If I'm calling to set an appointment, I am almost always following a script. In an appointment script, since I'm calling to make an appointment, it's what I'm closing for. If there's a sense that I can get that appointment at an earlier stage, I may do that.

      I don't usually set appointments face to face, but on those occasions when I do I follow the same pattern.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sebastian Wilde
    Originally Posted by David Miller View Post


    Hi Joe, Dave Miller. I'm a marketing consultant and I wanted to talk to you about a mobile version of your website.

    That's it. No magic, no tricks, no reaching out, wondering, reason for my call, or I just called because!
    Excellent post.

    I've never cold called as I have been lucky enough not to have to.

    But I have been the recipient of many, many cold calls over 25 years and I know what has a chance with me and what hasn't.

    This straight to the point approach does a couple of things that I respect as the recipient...
    ...it respects my time and doesn't try to mislead.

    So it has a much greater chance of success than many of the approaches I have read here, especially the approaches which attempt to deceive or mislead.

    Sebastian
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  • Profile picture of the author helisell
    Originally Posted by David Miller View Post

    ................

    Hi Joe, Dave Miller. I'm a marketing consultant and I wanted to talk to you about a mobile version of your website.

    That's it. No magic, no tricks, no reaching out, wondering, reason for my call, or I just called because!

    Taking it apart.......................
    This works really really well too:

    Hi Joe, Dave Miller.......I wonder if you can help me? (wait for their response)

    I'm a marketing consultant and I wanted to talk to you about a mobile version of your website.

    Their positive response creates what we call 'cognitive dissonance'.

    They always reply positively and their sub-conscience has to rationalise positivity towards the caller by concluding (sub-consciously of course) 'hey...this guy/gal is OK!
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    • Profile picture of the author David Miller
      Originally Posted by helisell View Post

      This works really really well too:
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      Their positive response creates what we call 'cognitive dissonance'.


      They always reply positively and their sub-conscience has to rationalise positivity towards the caller by concluding (sub-consciously of course) 'hey...this guy/gal is OK!
      I can appreciate the need in certain cases to add that particular phrase. Applied correctly it might cause certain people to "want to help" someone else. Personally, I've never used that approach because it's simply not who I am.

      However, as an aside, what does "cognitive dissonance" have to do with that approach. I must be missing something. Cognitive dissonance is an internal conflict of holding two different beliefs about the same condition or situation. My question to you would be this:

      What two different beliefs about himself would a prospect have that would trigger a positive response to the question "I wonder if you could help me?"
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      • Profile picture of the author helisell
        Originally Posted by David Miller View Post


        My question to you would be this:

        What two different beliefs about himself would a prospect have that would trigger a positive response to the question "I wonder if you could help me?"
        Sorry I probably didn't explain that very well so here goes:

        I answer the phone to a stranger and my belief system tells me:

        "This is a stranger and likely to be someone trying to sell me something.
        I don't act nicely towards strangers trying to sell to me"

        The fact that we humans have a built in 'niceness' when people need help, prompts us (usually) to react favourably when asked for help.

        So on the one hand (we sub consciously verbalise) 'I am on the phone with the kind of person I probably don't like'.....'but they have asked for help' (cognitive dissonance)

        The resolution of that dissonance is the sub conscious decision to accept the person on the phone as being 'ok'

        I've been using it for 30 years with great results which is why I posted.
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        • Profile picture of the author David Miller
          Originally Posted by helisell View Post

          Sorry I probably didn't explain that very well so here goes:

          I answer the phone to a stranger and my belief system tells me:

          "This is a stranger and likely to be someone trying to sell me something.
          I don't act nicely towards strangers trying to sell to me"

          The fact that we humans have a built in 'niceness' when people need help, prompts us (usually) to react favourably when asked for help.

          So one the one hand (we sub consciously verbalise) 'I am on the phone with the kind of person I probably don't like'.....'but they have asked for help' (cognitive dissonance)

          The resolution of that dissonance is the sub conscious decision to accept the person on the phone as being 'ok'

          I've been using it for 30 years with great results which is why I posted.
          A great clarification. Obviously I didn't see it!
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        • Profile picture of the author RRG
          Originally Posted by helisell View Post

          Sorry I probably didn't explain that very well so here goes:

          I answer the phone to a stranger and my belief system tells me:

          "This is a stranger and likely to be someone trying to sell me something.
          I don't act nicely towards strangers trying to sell to me"

          The fact that we humans have a built in 'niceness' when people need help, prompts us (usually) to react favourably when asked for help.

          So one the one hand (we sub consciously verbalise) 'I am on the phone with the kind of person I probably don't like'.....'but they have asked for help' (cognitive dissonance)

          The resolution of that dissonance is the sub conscious decision to accept the person on the phone as being 'ok'

          I've been using it for 30 years with great results which is why I posted.
          This is the exact approach I use, both face-to-face and on the phone.

          It absolutely works.

          And if you shut up after saying, "I wonder if you could help me," it practically forces the person to respond: "Sure, how can I help?"

          Now you have tacit permission to continue.
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          • Profile picture of the author David Miller
            Originally Posted by RRG View Post

            This is the exact approach I use, both face-to-face and on the phone.

            It absolutely works.

            And if you shut up after saying, "I wonder if you could help me," it practically forces the person to respond: "Sure, how can I help?"

            Now you have tacit permission to continue.
            Since so many on this forum seem to employ this particular tactic when introducing themselves, I wonder if any of you could expand upon how it functions in a way that establishes any amount of rapport.
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            • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
              Originally Posted by David Miller View Post

              Since so many on this forum seem to employ this particular tactic when introducing themselves, I wonder if any of you could expand upon how it functions in a way that establishes any amount of rapport.
              Maybe it doesn't. The gatekeeper helps you get to the DM. Or it gets the DM into a receptive frame of mind. I think building rapport in the opening line would be a tough thing to accomplish.
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              • Profile picture of the author David Miller
                Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

                Maybe it doesn't. The gatekeeper helps you get to the DM. Or it gets the DM into a receptive frame of mind. I think building rapport in the opening line would be a tough thing to accomplish.
                So this "opener" is best used to get you to the DM as I read your post. Or, if the DM should answer the phone you need to be prepared with a follow-on when you get his hopefully positive response.
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                • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
                  Originally Posted by David Miller View Post

                  So this "opener" is best used to get you to the DM as I read your post. Or, if the DM should answer the phone you need to be prepared with a follow-on when you get his hopefully positive response.
                  Yes, first we need permission to tell them why we called. Then we can get into it.

                  If it's not a good time to talk, we don't want to force that square peg into the round hole--call back another time.
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                  • Profile picture of the author David Miller
                    Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

                    Yes, first we need permission to tell them why we called. Then we can get into it.

                    If it's not a good time to talk, we don't want to force that square peg into the round hole--call back another time.
                    I'm familiar with this approach and I understand it's implication. Personally I don't care for it. In my mind it transfers the control to the prospect. It's too tempting be be sucked into a conversation such as:

                    It's an OK time, what do got? or something similar.

                    Only someone with a good amount of experience can turn that toward their favor. The newbie is nervous and wants to take every opportunity to spit out their pitch. The odds are that that is exactly what he will do and unless there's an offer so incredibly tempting, the odds are the call will end in a "no thanks" with the prospect feeling he was exceptionally kind to let the poor telemarketer get his pitch off. In addition, it leaves little or no room to establish even the smallest bit of rapport.

                    I understand that it leaves you open for quick "bye" and a call back at a later time, but I don't see that as a benefit other than the emotional advantage of avoiding a potential negative exchange.

                    Insofar as establishing rapport in an extremely short period of time, it's easily done. The right words, the proper tone, and an understanding of human nature are all it takes.

                    To my original post, a simple change does it:

                    "Joe, Dave Miller. How are things?"

                    Here's what happens. Joe doesn't know who I am, but he thinks he might. As I stated earlier, unless Joe is a complete moron, he will probably assume I'm a customer just to be on the safe side. Joe will respond with something like:

                    "Pretty good, thanks. How are things with you?"

                    I say things are fine and continue with my introduction. In those few seconds, I've established a certain level of rapport with Joe.

                    Will it work every time? No! But nothing works every time.

                    Jason, I'm not disputing the validity of the method you use, I'm only asserting that there is no ONE way to do this.

                    I'm hoping some others in the forum will share how they introduce themselves.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
                      Nobody said there's only one way. I said above as long as you were relaxed and yourself, almost anything would work.

                      Newbies are not relaxed, not themselves, and need a process that will a) give them a roadmap and b) help them continue to make calls.

                      As for "pitches", I don't do them. I work with a 30-second commercial that leads into that rapport-building you want.

                      Originally Posted by David Miller View Post

                      I'm familiar with this approach and I understand it's implication. Personally I don't care for it. In my mind it transfers the control to the prospect. It's too tempting be be sucked into a conversation such as:

                      It's an OK time, what do got? or something similar.

                      Only someone with a good amount of experience can turn that toward their favor. The newbie is nervous and wants to take every opportunity to spit out their pitch. The odds are that that is exactly what he will do and unless there's an offer so incredibly tempting, the odds are the call will end in a "no thanks" with the prospect feeling he was exceptionally kind to let the poor telemarketer get his pitch off. In addition, it leaves little or no room to establish even the smallest bit of rapport.

                      I understand that it leaves you open for quick "bye" and a call back at a later time, but I don't see that as a benefit other than the emotional advantage of avoiding a potential negative exchange.

                      Insofar as establishing rapport in an extremely short period of time, it's easily done. The right words, the proper tone, and an understanding of human nature are all it takes.

                      To my original post, a simple change does it:

                      "Joe, Dave Miller. How are things?"

                      Here's what happens. Joe doesn't know who I am, but he thinks he might. As I stated earlier, unless Joe is a complete moron, he will probably assume I'm a customer just to be on the safe side. Joe will respond with something like:

                      "Pretty good, thanks. How are things with you?"

                      I say things are fine and continue with my introduction. In those few seconds, I've established a certain level of rapport with Joe.

                      Will it work every time? No! But nothing works every time.

                      Jason, I'm not disputing the validity of the method you use, I'm only asserting that there is no ONE way to do this.

                      I'm hoping some others in the forum will share how they introduce themselves.
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              • Profile picture of the author RRG
                Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

                Maybe it doesn't. The gatekeeper helps you get to the DM. Or it gets the DM into a receptive frame of mind. I think building rapport in the opening line would be a tough thing to accomplish.
                I agree with Jason here.

                You probably can't generate instant rapport; it's more of a process.

                But you certainly can blow any chance at rapport by saying the wrong things at the beginning.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    "I just met you, and this is crazy, but here's my number..." oh wait. Sorry. Wrong thing. LOL. ^what Jason said. The hardest part I find is being relaxed, but I've also found that letting them talk is an easy in too. Closed a deal for $800 on a "spruce up" of a site for a local mechanic. And all I did, once I took a deep breath or two, was call him up and be sincere when I asked him how he was doing. He talked. We got to his main objection and go through it, just by being honest. "I'm not sure spending $xxx is worth it as I want a simple site." "No problem! If price wasn't the issue, would you be willing to start tomorrow?" "Yes" and from there it was just finding out his spending limit. If you listen enough, they'll tell you their main objection and exactly how to solve it. If you listen, they'll tell you want they want (of course meeting in a coffee shop and showing them Google and where' they're not helps..).

    Just relax. Be YOU. Don't get wound up about the outcome (I keep having to remind myself of this), and listen.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
    On the topic of dancing I found that a very high percentage of
    women will say no when you first ask them to dance or something
    like "I can't dance."

    Especially attractive women.

    To that I would say "Can you walk forwards?"

    "Can you walk backwards?"

    "Can you count to four?"

    If they say yes to all of those then you say "then you can
    dance. Because dancing is really just walking backwards
    and forwards while you count to four."

    The reality is you could say nearly anything and have good
    success.

    Women naturally have their defenses up because they get
    approached by so many men...especially in a club or bar.


    And it's the same with business owners.

    They have their defenses up because so many people are
    trying to sell them something and in many cases they've
    been burnt multiple times by unscrupulous or incompetent
    people.

    Saying anything that establishes you're NOT the regular
    type of person they're used to talking to is going to help
    enormously.


    On the topic of dancing again some women would still not
    agree to dance after those questions.

    Then I would say in a low sincere tone "It's okay. I've danced
    with hundreds of women and you'll be fine."

    Many people could not believe how I could get so many women
    to dance with me.


    The same principle is true with businesses.

    Show that you're sincere and you only want to guide them to
    doing something that's good for them and you really do know what
    you're doing.


    So what to say to a business owner?

    The crazy part is you could say nearly anything if you have the right
    tone of voice and mindset.

    That's probably more important to practice than the specific words...
    being relaxed, confident and genuinely concerned with the wellbeing
    of the person you're talking to.

    Kindest regards,
    Andrew Cavanagh
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Great thread David,

    Sorry to be a late bloomer.

    Generally, Im pretty straight forward, but I have designed processes for call centers that are more covert...

    Most of what you see below is something I have used in one way or another in the past, though maybe not verbatim...depending on the industry... Also Im assuming we are talking about COLD calls, there are a million other angles based around the way people generate their call material that I cant cover here...

    As for me personally, if they see that Im a salesman ahead of time, I don’t care, because I AM one, and Im interested in talking to someone who KNOWS I’m one, and who still wants to talk to me, however I have included some more covert, proven tactics here as well.

    I think a lot of it has to do with tone, as much as the actual line. If you act too nervous they will wonder why you are nervous and what you, in your own mind, think you are pulling over on them that would warrant such nervousness.

    This is a deep subject, because there are so many angles, and a lot of it depends on your business model.

    But Here are some straight forward lines I have used in the past, and some that are more covert.….

    Like I said, a lot of it depends on the business model, and tone… remember, people buy into things because they “sound good” at the time, so you have top be able to execute and “sound good”.

    You can approach it from the angles of:

    1: Credibility: (In this example we will use police fundraising).

    “This is John Durham calling with the local DDAC officers from the 24th precinct…No need to worry, there isn’t a problem or anything…the officers were just wanting to remind you of the…”

    (Trust me, people perk up to that one and listen- MOST people that is)


    2: “Borrowed” Credibility/Perceived Authority:


    This is John Durham Calling With _______ we are the Authorized Google Affiliated Research Company here in The River Valley. Basically we calling to make sure you received your free Google advertising package… Have you folks gotten an email yet?

    Okay, well let me fill you in real quick…


    3: Unassuming


    “Hey This is John Durham and I am a local web designer who is new in town, actually I just moved here from Chicago two weeks ago (Slight pause , so they can welcome you to town if they want, but not too long so as to be awkward)… I hate to take up your time today Bob, but, Im looking for a job right now, and in the in the meanwhile Im trying to dig up some web work to start a part time online marketing business for local business owners, I was wondering if you folks had any projects on the back burner, that you could throw my way, and give me a chance to show you what I can do?”

    (Some people will respond to this one just because they admire you for trying to make the effort instead of whining that there are no jobs- and because you are sincere- Believe it- Next thing you know, you have referrals and you are in business)

    4: Another Unassuming one- Non Threatening

    Hi Im John Durham, with________ we are a new web design company in town, and briefly, Im just calling around to all the local business owners offering free quotes on web designs packages, hoping to potentially drum up some business, I was just wondering what kind of internet marketing plans you folks might have on the back burner that we could help you out with?

    5: The “Free” Route

    Hi Im John With______ we are a premier local online business directory, you may have heard of us…right now, we are offering local business owners like yourself a free page in our directory with no catch, I just wanted to make sure I had your information, btw the way , you ARE “Bobs Grocery store right?” Do I have the right business?

    Okay great, Let me just ask a few questions so I can make sure I get your listing the way you want it.

    (Give them a free listing, then try to upsell them to a premium one, in the same call)

    6: The “prestigious” route

    Hi Im John With___________ , and as you may know, we are the number one local online marketing agency in the River Valley, working with some of the most prestigious clientele in the state. You may know of some of our online promotional clients like ____________, ______________ or ________________… (Name prestigious companies.)

    *Note: You can borrow credibility from national organizations by joining link share, picking some prestigious companies, and putting up web pages to promote them. When you enter an agreement to promote them online – As an Affiliate- they become a marketing client).

    7: The “We forgot to call you” route.

    Hi Im John With __________, I hate to interrupt but it looks like we forgot to call you back about about your free advertising package from Google last week, I apologize for that… I’m assuming you already got an email right?

    Oh okay, well glad I called then… Just briefly….

    9: The “Can I fax you?” Route:

    Hi this is john, Im calling with the local employment guide, you have probably seen our stand on all the local street corners… I mean you can barely walk two feet without seeing one lol

    (Let them agree)

    Just briefly, Bob, I know you weren’t expecting my call, but we just wanted to make sure you had a chance to see our latest print advertising offers this week, that will enable you to reach a circulation of over 200,000 readers within the next seven days…

    Like I said, I don’t want to hold you up on the phone, but is there a fax number I can go ahead and send a flyer to so you can check this out when you have a minute…?

    Okay great, whats that number?

    Super.

    I will just call you back sometime this afternoon to make sure you got it and answer any questions you may have, how does say 2:00 or so sound to you? Great.

    (Call them back while they have the fax in hand, and sell them down the page while they look at the visual illustration of what you are saying… direct them around the fax and point things out, get all their senses involved).

    10: Free analysis/survey Route:

    Hi I am _________ with ____________ , we are the River Valleys ONLY authorized google affiliated marketing company…. Im just taking a quick research survey today, in order to help Google provide more relevant search results for its end users

    If you have a minute to answer a few quick questions to help us out, we will turn offer you a free website performance analysis, performed by a google certified technician, to help you more accurately target the customer who are actively searching for your specific services … and to say thank you for helping us out.

    Like I said, it’s just a few quick questions, have you got a minute Bob?

    I could easily come up with twenty more of these, and Im sure some of them in the minds of some are arguable, but I can assure you that they all work like a clock.

    I use to be in charge of a "pilot" crew that would test new programs daily which would be offered to the call center in the form of "contracts" . We would pilot with small groups before deciding whether or not to "roll it out" across the floor, or take the contract.

    As I said, new offers came in daily, and I was the person in charge of "making it work"...so I had to write the pitches, angles, train the TM's, rewrite where needed.

    Like I said Im assuming these are cold calls, depending on how leads are generated this could go a hundred different directions.

    I could do this all day and write 20 more, but dont want to hog the thread... just wanted to support my man David.

    Again, these were off the cuff but give the general idea.


    While Im here let me add this:

    In the booth as an individual, I would work day to day for 8-10 hours straight sometimes.

    When you do that, you get to where you can tell a difference within any 15 minute time period, whether or not you are "off", and you can try things, and within any fifteen minute time period you can make the change that puts you back on track.

    Once you are familiar with how you should flow, which comes from lots of dialing, in an instant you can tell if you are out of synch somewhere.

    What Im about to say will help bigtime with your greetings, because many times it isnt what you are saying, but rather "how you are saying it".

    For instance I was in one gig where the average was 2-3 sales per hour.

    If thirty minutes went by and I had no traction, I would check myself and say "I must be not doing something Im should be doing somewhere" and I had a list of things I would use to check myself.

    MANY times.... it was because I was saying "Is Bob There"?

    I had learned that if you just say the name in front of you, you get through more greetings and into your pitch more often, so I would put myself in check and go back to saying "Hi. Joe?"

    And things would immediately go back on track. It was often something that simple.

    You see if the name on your page is "Joe", and you say "is Joe around?" many will lie to you and say he wasnt around, when in fact it was him the whole time (this was in residential calling- A little more hardcore but the same thing applies).

    However, when I said "Hi. Joe?" to whoever answered the phone, many times it was him, and he would say "yeah, this is him"...and more often than not, if it WASNT him, the person would say, "No this is Tom, but let me get him for you" and pass me on.

    Little things like that count. You aren't changing your objective at all, just the way it SOUNDS when you approach it. People buy into stuff that "sounds good" at the time.

    If you can list 10 of those little things in your greeting.... am I being enthusiastic? Am I being non threatening (depending on your approach) Am I asking for the person, or assuming its them? Am I lilting my inflection at the end of my introduction.

    Here is an example of that "lilt":

    Someone might say "This is John With Amway... You may have heard of us" (like a statement....then they move on)

    Someone else might say "This is John ...with Amway? You may have heard of us?" ( A little sheepish with a lilt or question mark at the end, then they pause, as if they are looking for the customers approval to move on)

    The second example gets shot down nine times out of ten, even though they both use the same words, they use them differently.

    This second example is what I call "lilt" at the end of your introduction, and is viewed as weakness by the prospect. Its like you are seeking their validation instead of stating who you are and telling them they should be familiar with you...It is one of those things that will cut your conversion by 10% just by itself.

    I have witnessed this with myself, and also and fixed it with many telemarketers, even though sometimes they go straight back into the habit. I would pull them to the side, and pull up their recordings and say "see how you are doing this? Fix that and you will get in more pitches...", and invariably they would...(also partially because they felt better for having gotten a justifiable reason for why they were failing, and that boosted the confidence as well. Alot of this is mental.)

    Every time you fix it your conversion will go up.

    One last note:

    If you tell people they should be familiar with you, most will assume they should be... No matter who you are, and half of them will agree and say "Yeah I think I have heard of you", even if they havent. The other half will listen because they feel left out that they should have heard of you but have somehow been in the dark.

    Test it.

    If they say they havent, then you have proper justification to say "Okay well, we are....".

    Now think.

    If there are five points in your greeting that affects conversion by as much as 10%, then keeping a check on those things can increase your conversion as much as fifty percent.

    And I am living proof of that as I kept a tight watch on myself to stay on top when I was in a booth, and then others as I monitored them later.

    Anyway, there are some more tips regarding your opening lines.

    Hope this helps.

    -John
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    • Profile picture of the author David Miller
      Originally Posted by John Durham View Post


      As for me personally, if they see that Im a salesman ahead of time, I don't care, because I AM one, and Im interested in talking to someone who KNOWS I'm one, and who still wants to talk to me, however I have included some more covert, proven tactics here as well.

      I think a lot of it has to do with tone
      , as much as the actual line. If you act too nervous they will wonder why you are nervous and what you, in your own mind, think you are pulling over on them that would warrant such nervousness.

      This is a deep subject, because there are so many angles, and a lot of it depends on your business model.
      I've been hoping you'd jump in at some point John, I see you've jumped in with both feet and to the deepest end of the pool with your lifeguard outfit on as well!

      Your post is pure gold and anyone that has even the slightest thought of picking up the phone should print it out and read through it 10-15 times each day.

      The reason I only included the one portion of your post in the quote above is because like you, I'm not concerned if someone thinks I may be a salesman., to me it means one less step to take to get to the heart of the matter. The school of thought that you can make a business owner think you are something else and then suddenly spring the "sales card" on him is, in my mind, is completely deceptive and may only serve to tick off the prospect.

      I also am glad you brought up the fact that the phone room model differs greatly from the person who is working on his own. It is a very different mindset that's required when you work on your own.

      Like yourself, I've written my share of phone room scripts. They worked well (after some testing and tweaking of course) but when I began to write a script for myself they didn't translate. Phone room scripts need to be written for a "general population" of telemarketers. I found out that a script for someone like me needed to be molded to my personality. It requires some testing and tweaking as well, a script for an individual must include what is for him, a comfortable mindset.

      When I write a script for someone now, I don't do it in a vacuum. I do it with him and make sure that every phrase expresses the appropriate mindset and that it's done in words and in a way that for him, is molded to and fits his personality.

      What I've found is that the opening statement sets the tone for the entire conversation.

      I've lost track of how many times I've on this forum I've said that the reason the great majority of people shy away from the phone is because they are uncertain of what to say. That's the reason everyone, I mean everyone, should have a script.

      Following the sound advice which says you only have one chance to make a first impression, your opening line is the most critical.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Thanks David,

    I myself have stopped writing scripts personally, as of recently, because I think its more valuable to teach people how to "execute", and give them principles they can create their own scripts with... Unless they have a big budget that enables me to train their telemarketers on it, which a couple here have done, but most cant, and Im phasing out of that anyway.

    When I write my own scripts, I will generally just write out something basic, get on the phone, and tweak it out over 20 calls to where the words flow and roll of the tongue smoothly (as most will want to do with the above ideas, because they are based on proven principles, but maybe not your manner of speaking...) ...

    When calling for myself, I usually dont get fancy, because I have learned that as long as you are straight up and you dial, and include all the basic elements, otherwise just telling it like it is, you will find the customers that match your own style., but some people are "noid" about being seen as a salesman...so more covert methods make them more comfortable.

    The above are all ideas (I have edited and tweaked them some since original post BTW) based on proven concepts that a person can take and run with, along with using some of the principles gained from some of the other threads we have out there... to get started in a successful direction with their call sessions.

    I have been wanting to jump on this thread, but preferred waiting till I could give it the energy you deserve, with the way you contribute to my own so comprehensively.

    -John

    Ps. There is definitely a difference between a call center style and an individual style...and the robotic call center style works GREAT, but it may be hard to pull of as an individual because the energy working from home is different. If you work alone, you will put out a more sincere vibe just to be straightforward and, ACT LIKE IT!

    Still using a verbatim script, so you can duplicate your success predictably, but in more of a small potato style. Dont try to act like you are with a big organization...too many traps you can fall into. Make it easy on yourself and use a script, but let it represent what you are really doing as an individual or small company. If you are a start up just say it...many people support that.

    To substantiate what Im saying here...more warriors have reported success to me with the below script than any other, and its because it represents where they really are and comes off more naturally:

    4: Another Unassuming one- Non Threatening

    Hi Im John Durham, with________ we are a new web design company in town, and briefly, Im just calling around to all the local business owners offering free quotes on web designs packages, hoping to potentially drum up some business, I was just wondering what kind of internet marketing plans you folks might have on the back burner that we could help you out with?

    This seems to work for individuals like gangbusters.

    Do you have any references?


    Well thats exactly why Im calling, like I said we are new, and currently trying to generate some good local references, which is why we are offering a handful of business owners like yourself a very special deal on our top website package. Our goal is to get some of our best work up as quickly as possible so we can develop some great sites for showcasing to the rest of the local business community!

    We were just hoping you folks might be interested in getting a good deal on a package, and being one of those that we showcase.

    Let me ask, do you currently have a site up?

    Great! Well maybe I called at just the right time then...our fully optimized 5 page website package features....

    This works, for an individual, because usually its genuine. People appreciate that.

    Some also use the bower style script with success as Stewart Alexander mentioned in another thread, because it also represents the truth of where they are and what they are doing...no big fancy parade... parades work for telemarketers in large call centers, because they come on with conviction being that they are REALLY in one. lol

    Organizational sounding scripts are for people who are ready to scale or already have a team.
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    • Profile picture of the author dunkinbbb
      Hey David,

      Nice to see you back on the WF sharing your stuff.

      Let me chime in here, if I may:

      I've been in sales a good part of my adult life, even before the internet - I'm old - LOL!

      And been pretty successful selling high ticket software and services to large corporations.

      In this new career - selling online products and services to small brick and mortar companies, I struggled quite a bit at first.

      Cold calling was something I never had to do in my previous life, and the idea of calling a list of strangers and offering my services was daunting enough to keep me from taking any action at all.

      I was stuck.

      I reached out for help.

      David was recommended to me by one of the senior Warriors here.

      We started with a script.

      He worked with me to formulate one that I felt comfortable saying.

      But, I was still stuck.

      Fortunately, David didn't stop there. He worked with me on other telephone sales issues that were stopping me. What really helped me was the way David was able to identify and clarify an internal mindset - one that I wasn't even aware I was operating from - my own thoughts and beliefs that were keeping me from taking action - and getting the desired results.

      He shared some "mindsets" that I easily adopted - like "I'm not a telemarketer cold calling from a booth - I'm a business owner talking to another business owner about the possibility of working together" - that immediately had the desired impact.

      David - you might want to share your "Ted Turner" story.

      After a couple of coaching sessions with David, including him listening to me call via conferencing and recording the calls - and then coaching me after the call - made all the difference.

      Just knowing he was there on the call - silently -

      1 - forced me to do what I had said to myself I would do - make the calls (Nothing happens if you don't make the calls !)

      2 - provided the "mental safety net" to take the fear - or whatever it was that was stopping me - away

      3 - transformed each call from another chance to experience rejection - to another chance to be coached by an expert.

      In other words, I began to look forward to making the calls - so I could share my experiences/results with David - and get coached and improve - the way one looks forward to another tennis lesson from a tennis pro - and that "mental shift" made all the difference.

      My coaching experience with David was like the story of the football coach who made his team do what they didn't want to do during the week - practice hard - so that they could have what they wanted on Sunday - win the game.

      Anyway, just poppin' in to speak from my personal experience to David's qualifications on the subject matter.

      Hope this helps someone.

      Bill
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  • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
    I did not know you did coaching and scripts. I bet your good at it.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Miller
      @dunkinbbb: Thanks so much for the kind words Bill! Nice that you chimed in on this particular thread because I remember that we worked very hard on creating an opening line that felt right for you, then testing, testing, testing, until it took you where you needed to go.

      @kenmichaels: Thanks Ken, I've always written scripts, but realized that scripts were only a part of the picture. Coaching seemed to be a natural extension to generating the results people want.
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  • Profile picture of the author NewParadigm
    I like getting them to talk about themselves/their businesses as soon as possible. Often a little homework on the business pays off big, like "Hey Tom, how's that new menu rollout going? Generating some more dinner covers with it?"
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    • Profile picture of the author David Miller
      Originally Posted by NewParadigm View Post

      I like getting them to talk about themselves/their businesses as soon as possible. Often a little homework on the business pays off big, like "Hey Tom, how's that new menu rollout going? Generating some more dinner covers with it?"
      There is no doubt that you want to talk less and listen more. However, you still need a starting point that lends itself to allow that to happen. Although your suggestion is good, as it's written it would surely lead to a response such as:

      "Who's this?"

      It's likely that it would throw the entire exchange in the wrong direction. Remember, it's you as the salesperson that wants to be asking questions, not the prospect.

      Taking your question and simply adding your name would prevent it:

      "Hi Tom, Joe Paradigm! How's that new menu working out for you?"

      Doing it that way he has no choice but to answer your question. Once he does, you can tell him the purpose of your call and move on from there.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Guys like duncanbbb make the sharing all worthwhile. This stuff is alot more rewarding than just a little extra coaching cash or whatever... You dont get rich doing it, thats for sure...It's more than that.

    Thats why I trained telemarketers offline for years, the pay wasnt any better than any other management job most times, but the lightbulb coming on in peoples eyes, who realized they could achieve, and had breakthroughs....PRICELESS!

    Actually the pay is alot better when they are your own telemarketers, which I found out later.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Miller
      @JD:

      Training "telemarketers" should pay well!

      I've done it for a couple of phone rooms that I've owned and it was like herding cats. Working with someone transitioning from a booth to a back room in their home may not allow me to have the biggest house in the neighborhood, but it keeps the acid reflux in check!
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      • Profile picture of the author John Durham
        Originally Posted by David Miller View Post

        @JD:

        Training "telemarketers" should pay well!

        I've done it for a couple of phone rooms that I've owned and it was like herding cats. Working with someone transitioning from a booth to a back room in their home may not allow me to have the biggest house in the neighborhood, but it keeps the acid reflux in check!
        Lol. Yeah it sure is a different energy required. Home workers are at the disadvantage of not having the pressure and peers around them... I truly have a sense of compassion for that... Its harder to work from home for many, and takes a different mindset. Not the "solution" that it appears to be at first glance, and almost requires MORE disciplin.

        The benefit is that you call your own shots and you are a slave to no man. So training people to me is like helping them in "setting themselves free" from slavery.

        That may seem like a grandiose statement but thats what it is to me, and the people who set my own mind free are my hero's, much like the poster above expresses about you David.

        Its okay, Im sure you have some of those yourself. I have alot of hero's here on WF , and otherwise, personally.

        It's a good feeling to see others get those same moments of epiphany that set you free at one time, because you know how they enriched your own life.

        Yeah I agree, it should pay more, but it is what it is. You can pull finances at will and so can I, whether I do as much as I am capable of or not sometimes... Money isnt the only motivation. Wish I understood the concept of "greed" more myself, I'd be living in the biggest house on the block Just never got that gene I guess...

        Its kind of a missing link, that could have a valuable place Im sure, if not abused.
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    • Profile picture of the author dunkinbbb
      Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

      Guys like duncanbbb make the sharing all worthwhile. This stuff is alot more rewarding than just a little extra coaching cash or whatever... You dont get rich doing it, thats for sure...It's more than that.

      Thats why I trained telemarketers offline for years, the pay wasnt any better than any other management job most times, but the lightbulb coming on in peoples eyes, who realized they could achieve, and had breakthroughs....PRICELESS!

      Actually the pay is alot better when they are your own telemarketers, which I found out later.


      Hey John,

      Thanks for the shoutout! :-)

      You are right on - I can assure you that David isn't going to be able to retire solely based upon working with me - LOL

      Since you brought it up - hope it's okay to share this, David - he was pretty cool about finding something that worked for me - while keeping my skin in the game - knowing that my success was going to be his success.

      And John, you are so right - coaching may cost some money - but freedom is PRICELESS!

      Bill
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      • Profile picture of the author David Miller
        On many occasions when you don't have a name to ask for, regardless of how you open your call, when you ask to speak with the person who handles xyz, the response you may hear is:

        "That's me."

        This response is actually frequent if you are targeting plumbers, landscapers, some types of contractors, and other tradespeople and one or two person operations such as law firms or accountants.

        All too often, the new sales person and even some experienced sales people say something like:

        "Oh, OK, well my name is John Smith and the reason for my call is....."

        Clearly the new person does that because they may be nervous, and the experienced sales person does it because they've never been trained to do otherwise. In either case they launch into their sales pitch regardless of establishing any of the elements needed to continue.

        However, we've all been trained years ago by mom and dad to NEVER talk to strangers. I didn't talk to strangers then, and I won't talk to strangers now. So when I'm faced with, "that's me," I'll simply ask:

        "....and who am I speaking with?"
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          Originally Posted by David Miller View Post

          So when I'm faced with, "that's me," I'll simply ask:

          "....and who am I speaking with?"
          Not taking the time to find out their name is a rookie mistake.

          When your having a conversation, it is easier to get them to engage
          when you use their name a few times.
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          • Profile picture of the author David Miller
            Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

            Not taking the time to find out their name is a rookie mistake.

            When your having a conversation, it is easier to get them to engage
            when you use their name a few times.
            I agree that it usually is a rookie mistake in most cases. However, it can happen to anyone, even the most seasoned phone sales person if they are feeling a bit frustrated or stressed from couple of calls gone wrong.

            Likewise, I've seen some phone sales people who feel they are "on a roll" and virtually stop listening to their prospects.

            Ultimately, whether it's day 1 or day 1001, you've always got to have a handle on the fundamentals.
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