Who is your favourite offline warrior?

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Lets show some gratitude and list our favourite offline warriors. These are people who show serious expertise in this field and regularly share their wisdom with everyone else here in the forum.

Please note, the list below is in no particular order of ranking. Also, it is strongly recommended that you go check these people's posts using the search function on this forum and take notes. However, these people are not exclusive to your development. Gems can come from lots of "lesser known" contributors on this forum, so don't discount others, take everything on its' own merit.

This resource list is simply a measure of gratitude and a quick reference to those who really do pour their blood, sweat and tears into this forum for the benefit of others.

These are YOUR votes.

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THE ALLSTAR LIST SO FAR:
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Iamnameless
John Durham
Andrew Cavanagh
Willie Crawford
SDentrepreneur
Jason Kanigan
Claude Whitacre
David Preston
Scott Gallagher
Brenden Clerget
Christ Beatty

Warrior Ben
Wendy Garrett
Maxrenz
Vandenbergj
Midasman09
Martin Buckley
Jack Mize
Bob Ross
Lee Cole
Brash Impact
The 2 RockStars
Expand2Web
Jo Pixelcrafter
Drew Laughlin
Mark Andrews
Tiffany Dow
kenmichaels
sandalwood
misterme
eperkins153
Aaron Doud
RedShifted
David Miller
ewenmack
mwind
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  • Profile picture of the author fandbworld
    Iamnameless has been a huge help, always love his posts. Also the fact that he is never trying to sell anything on here and just giving helpful advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author AppsFromHome
    There's to many to post here....I can't pick just one.

    Over the last few years, I've been in different stages of my business and there's always been one or two Warriors that have really stepped up to help me out.

    I owe a lot to this place!
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    • Profile picture of the author mcconnon12
      Originally Posted by SDotSpells View Post

      There's to many to post here....I can't pick just one.

      Over the last few years, I've been in different stages of my business and there's always been one or two Warriors that have really stepped up to help me out.

      I owe a lot to this place!
      Hey SDOT I just signed up for your free WSO, but I was not taken to a download link and it was never sent to my email. FYI.
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      • Profile picture of the author mcconnon12
        Originally Posted by mcconnon12 View Post

        Hey SDOT I just signed up for your free WSO, but I was not taken to a download link and it was never sent to my email. FYI.
        Nevermind, it came over via email.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
          Originally Posted by mcconnon12 View Post

          Nevermind, it came over via email.
          This and your last post are not the kind of things to clutter up threads with. Please send a PM, or post a visitor message on the user's page if you cannot PM.

          Other Warriors do not need to read about your technical issue. Sorry if this sounds harsh. However, if everyone posted about their downloading problems, the forum would be filled with garbage posts.
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          • Profile picture of the author ivanela33
            Too bad he hasn't posted in a while but my vote goes to MRomeo09 - voted the richest offliner on the WF:rolleyes:
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            • Profile picture of the author malachiteIM
              I agree. I learnt a lot from his valuable posts.

              Originally Posted by ivanela33 View Post

              Too bad he hasn't posted in a while but my vote goes to MRomeo09 - voted the richest offliner on the WF:rolleyes:
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            • Profile picture of the author MRomeo09
              Originally Posted by ivanela33 View Post

              Too bad he hasn't posted in a while but my vote goes to MRomeo09 - voted the richest offliner on the WF:rolleyes:
              Health issues had me under the weather for many months now. Four surgeries later, I'm in reasonable health again. Hopefully I can contribute a little more regularly in the future.

              I would definitely say I'm not the richest offliner on the WF. However, I've made a few pennies here or there.

              I personally am a fan of

              John The Man Durham
              Jason "I know I can, I know I can" Kanigan
              David "Presto I'm in the money" Preston
              SDEntrepreneur- Because in SD BS walks and money talks.
              David "the buck stops here" Miller

              And I know I'm missing a few more.
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              • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
                Originally Posted by MRomeo09 View Post

                Health issues had me under the weather for many months now. Four surgeries later, I'm in reasonable health again. Hopefully I can contribute a little more regularly in the future.

                I would definitely say I'm not the richest offliner on the WF. However, I've made a few pennies here or there.

                I personally am a fan of

                John The Man Durham
                Jason "I know I can, I know I can" Kanigan
                David "Presto I'm in the money" Preston
                SDEntrepreneur- Because in SD BS walks and money talks.
                David "the buck stops here" Miller

                And I know I'm missing a few more.
                Sorry to hear of your health problems. One thing's for sure, this place won't help anyone's health
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                • Profile picture of the author John Durham
                  Originally Posted by Nick Brighton View Post

                  Sorry to hear of your health problems. One thing's for sure, this place won't help anyone's health
                  No doubt...lol
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                  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                    I just had the thought that making a list of your favorite Warriors is a way to get LOTS of "Thanks". An idea I make use after we all forget I mentioned this.

                    But really;

                    Misterme
                    Jason Kanigan
                    John Durham
                    Ken Michaels

                    These are the main hitters to me, just on the volume of great information they share.

                    There are five or six others I could name, and you know who you are.

                    The idea of the Copywriting forum being a source of great contributions strikes me as right. I spend 99% of my time here on the offline room.

                    So...affiliate gurus, SEO guys, WSO guys, and all the other guys kind of get ignored by me, just because I don't see them. But I'll check out the copyewriting forum. I know it's about the most important skill you can have, online or offline.
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                    • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
                      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                      I just had the thought that making a list of your favorite Warriors is a way to get LOTS of "Thanks". An idea I make use after we all forget I mentioned this.

                      But really;

                      Misterme
                      Jason Kanigan
                      John Durham
                      Ken Michaels

                      These are the main hitters to me, just on the volume of great information they share.

                      There are five or six others I could name, and you know who you are.

                      The idea of the Copywriting forum being a source of great contributions strikes me as right. I spend 99% of my time here on the offline room.

                      So...affiliate gurus, SEO guys, WSO guys, and all the other guys kind of get ignored by me, just because I don't see them. But I'll check out the copyewriting forum. I know it's about the most important skill you can have, online or offline.

                      son of B*TCH.... I am in last place .....
                      just kidding.

                      Long a go i heard ... when you do something right.. nobody knows you did anything at all ....the fact i am mentioned period... says i am doing something wrong.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                        Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

                        son of B*TCH.... I am in last place .....
                        just kidding.

                        Long a go i heard ... when you do something right.. nobody knows you did anything at all ....the fact i am mentioned period... says i am doing something wrong.
                        Ken; As soon as I saw your post, I thought "HEY! Where's MY name? And then I saw that you were quoting me. HA! :rolleyes:
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                    • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
                      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post


                      The idea of the Copywriting forum being a source of great contributions strikes me as right. I spend 99% of my time here on the offline room.
                      Unfortunately there is a lot of sniping at each other over there.
                      On an occasion you'll find valuable content.

                      And in the archives there are lot's of good stuff.

                      One good aspect of it is your case for something can be put under intense scrutiny
                      so going in you want to have a rock solid case to back yourself up.

                      Best,
                      Ewen
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                      • Profile picture of the author John Durham
                        Originally Posted by ewenmack View Post

                        Unfortunately there is a lot of sniping at each other over there.
                        On an occasion you'll find valuable content.

                        And in the archives there are lot's of good stuff.

                        One good aspect of it is your case for something can be put under intense scrutiny
                        so going in you want to have a rock solid case to back yourself up.

                        Best,
                        Ewen
                        As long as the scrutiny is based on rock solid proven principles I dont see the issue... its just when novices start blabbing off and you cant determine whats real or whats ego that isnt good. I want to learn better copywriting myself, but there are so many critics its hard to tell who is talking about solid stuff and who is just blabbing off.
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                        • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
                          Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

                          As long as the scrutiny is based on rock solid proven principles I dont see the issue... its just when novices start blabbing off and you cant determine whats real or whats ego that isnt good. I want to learn better copywriting myself, but there are so many critics its hard to tell who is talking about solid stuff and who is just blabbing off.
                          John if you are serious about learning about copywriting then my recommendation
                          is go over to marketingexperiments.com.

                          At first it might appear academic.

                          Don't let that impression hold you back because they have a library of over 1,000 split tests they conducted.

                          To make sure you know what is a split test is,
                          it's to test a variation of the existing website
                          and see if it beats the original.

                          This is done on clients websites.

                          There's no hiding from their mistakes if they get what they think should work bombs.

                          It either does or doesn't and the clients know it.

                          Every new client taken on they are put to the test to see if they can beat the performance of their existing website.

                          So real world battle tested knowledge freely shared there.

                          Best,
                          Ewen
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                          • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
                            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                            I just had the thought that making a list of your favorite Warriors is a way to get LOTS of "Thanks". An idea I make use after we all forget I mentioned this.
                            Haha, I suppose you're right. That wasn't my intention though. It's nice to be thanked, but it doesn't put food on the table.

                            It's a cute idea.

                            Just like being poked on Facebook.

                            Doesn't really get you anywhere in life though

                            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                            I'll check out the copyewriting forum. I know it's about the most important skill you can have, online or offline.
                            If the copywriters and offliners teamed up more often, you would see some amazing fireworks. I'm in quite a good position in that sense, as a professional copywriter myself, and doing offline work (including providing offline material) it makes it easy for me to stand out.

                            Having said that, a lot of offline guys are GREAT copywriters already... they're just not aware of it. Copywriting is salesmanship in print. Some of you guys speak a better sales letter than most "copy gurus" could ever write.

                            Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

                            son of B*TCH.... I am in last place .....
                            just kidding.
                            At least yours in the last name they see... and therefore more likely to remember

                            Originally Posted by ewenmack View Post

                            Unfortunately there is a lot of sniping at each other over there.
                            On an occasion you'll find valuable content.
                            Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

                            As long as the scrutiny is based on rock solid proven principles I dont see the issue... its just when novices start blabbing off and you cant determine whats real or whats ego that isnt good. I want to learn better copywriting myself, but there are so many critics its hard to tell who is talking about solid stuff and who is just blabbing off.
                            Is that any different to the offline forum?

                            I think the pattern is, wherever there are people really DOING (not just thinking) there will always be a battle for who knows best.

                            When someone tries to dispute your proven, tested advice, it can get heated...

                            ... especially when it's someone who might not be all they say they are, which IS a massive issue in all forums here, and everywhere else.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                        Originally Posted by ewenmack View Post

                        Unfortunately there is a lot of sniping at each other over there.
                        On an occasion you'll find valuable content.

                        And in the archives there are lot's of good stuff.

                        One good aspect of it is your case for something can be put under intense scrutiny
                        so going in you want to have a rock solid case to back yourself up.

                        Best,
                        Ewen
                        Ewen; I know! I posted something about it taking ten years to become an expert, and I got sniped. It took me over an hour to stop crying. I am a fragile flower. :rolleyes:

                        But...I love smart people that attack. Why? Because I may be wrong.
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                        • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
                          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                          Ewen; I know! I posted something about it taking ten years to become an expert, and I got sniped. It took me over an hour to stop crying. I am a fragile flower. :rolleyes:

                          But...I love smart people that attack. Why? Because I may be wrong.
                          no fair... if your going to post in that section now your going to have 10,000
                          posts in 3 weeks.. I been here 2 years...

                          HA.. just kidding... sorta :rolleyes:

                          I do envy you guys who can write so damn well. I read your posts ..
                          I have so much to say in response...

                          2 or 3 lines later ...

                          If anyone one wanted to help me learn how to write... i would be
                          forever indebted..

                          hint ... hint

                          hint
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                      • Profile picture of the author David Miller
                        This is my 1000th post. What would be better than sharing the "Coolest" warrior?

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  • Profile picture of the author kellyyarnsbro
    There are bunch of good offline warriors here, but they're no match to me. I am the best offline warrior here so i chose myself. Hey fellas out there, chose me.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeanThomas
    I was a long time warrior forum user but my account got hacked and i had to make a new one so my personal favourite was a fair bit more active a while ago but has just started getting active again John Durham, and Jason Kanigan is also a favourite of mine.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mister Natural
      Bob Ross

      I haven't worked a J.O.B. since I bought his WSO entitled: "Instant $5,000/month OFFLINE."

      big thumbs up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    Claude, Nameless, and John are always at the top of my favorites.
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  • Profile picture of the author kellyyarnsbro
    Oops, i see no other vote in favor for me yet. I'll just wait till all votes are casts, so hopeful that i will rank 1st overall for offline marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cay78
    Hands down I would say Lee Cole. I got my "real" start in offline marketing when I bought his V2 Method and I haven't looked back sense. I owe him for that product

    Thanks again Lee. I guess I should thank AJ as well!
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    • Profile picture of the author MarkJez
      Great question Nick.

      Easy to answer - it has to be Andrew Cavanagh. He has a wealth of experience and is very willing to share to help others.

      Other Warriors I'd like to mention whose advice or products have especially helped me are...

      Jack Mize.
      The 2 RockStars.
      David Cisneros.
      Don Campbell (Expand2Web)
      Jo Pixelcrafter
      Drew Laughlin
      John Durham
      Claude Whitacre
      Jason Kanigan
      Nameless
      Brash Impact

      and....I almost forgot - a special thanks to Wendy Garrett for her amazing PLR magazine IMG (Internet Marketing Guide). The best $7 I spend each month on a WSO. Not only a great read, but I can sell or give it away to my offline prospects and clients for extra leads and credibility!

      Many Warriors I haven't mentioned, but I've received priceless advice over the last 2 or 3 years - so a huge thank you.
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      • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
        Originally Posted by kellyyarnsbro View Post

        There are bunch of good offline warriors here, but they're no match to me. I am the best offline warrior here so i chose myself. Hey fellas out there, chose me.
        Urmm... ok?

        Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post

        Jack Mize, look him up
        Yeah, I wrote sales copy for Jack at the end of last year. Good guy.

        Originally Posted by Mister Natural View Post

        Bob Ross

        I haven't worked a J.O.B. since I bought his WSO entitled: "Instant $5,000/month OFFLINE."

        big thumbs up.
        Yeah, Bob is the real deal. His 9 x 12 method grabbed me.

        Originally Posted by MarkJez View Post

        Great question Nick.

        Easy to answer - it has to be Andrew Cavanagh. He has a wealth of experience and is very willing to share to help others.

        Other Warriors I'd like to mention whose advice or products have especially helped me are...

        Jack Mize.
        The 2 RockStars.
        David Cisneros.
        Don Campbell (Expand2Web)
        Jo Pixelcrafter
        Drew Laughlin
        John Durham
        Claude Whitacre
        Jason Kanigan
        Nameless
        Brash Impact

        and....I almost forgot - a special thanks to Wendy Garrett for her amazing PLR magazine IMG (Internet Marketing Guide). The best $7 I spend each month on a WSO. Not only a great read, but I can sell or give it away to my offline prospects and clients for extra leads and credibility!

        Many Warriors I haven't mentioned, but I've received priceless advice over the last 2 or 3 years - so a huge thank you.
        Great list! Nice to see Andrew Cavanagh get a mention; one of the first few guys to actually introduce the whole "offline" concept to this forum and the wider IM community with his offline gold report.

        Man, that was years ago... the offline space has exploded on this forum since.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    I want to mention 2 names although there are heaps more.
    Mark Andrews and Tiffany Dow.
    Both are invaluable to this forum and personally in different ways.
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  • Profile picture of the author iamchrisgreen
    For me, it's Jason Kanigan for his incredible wisdom.
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    For me, It's Iamnameless
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    Adrian Browning
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
    cool, thanks guys and keep 'em comin!

    I've updated the thread with the allstar list so far (see OP)
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    • Profile picture of the author massiveray
      Originally Posted by Nick Brighton View Post

      cool, thanks guys and keep 'em comin!

      I've updated the thread with the allstar list so far (see OP)
      Haha mate, Adrian browning was me being sarcastic, please remove from the list
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    There are a few listed above I don't know, but agree with the ones who have been listed so far.

    I would definitely add misterme, eperkins153, Aaron Doud, RedShifted, David Miller, ewenmack, mwind, and many others who know their !@#?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Don't forget misterme with the Bogart pic. That guy knows his offline stuff too.

    Claude has made an amazing contribution since his arrival.

    Thanks everyone who included me on their list. Sometimes I wonder if what I give away goes into an uncaring black hole, so your appreciation matters.
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  • Profile picture of the author bob ross
    who is tiffany dow? I see her name favorably mentioned here and there
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    I think one thing this thread has pointed out (besides me forgetting to mention a few that I love) is that this board contains massive value.

    The percentage of people on this board that you can trust and who are making money (freelancing, employee, or business owner) is huge. You can spend a lot of time on other forums and listen to a lot of people who talk a good game. But here you get to listen to people who are really out there doing it.

    Wouldn't be surprised if some of those we mentioned are pulling 7 figures. The difference is on this forum people don't boast about how much they made (and those are almost always inflated). They get respect from the knowledge they hand out for free. We don't need to see their bank accounts because we can tell by their advice that they know what they are talking about.

    You don't get that a lot on "making money" forums. We are very lucky to have that. I know personally I can ask any question and I will get real world advice from multiple quality sources.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
      Originally Posted by massiveray View Post

      Haha mate, Adrian browning was me being sarcastic, please remove from the list
      Haha, I missed the joke. Care to enlighten me?

      Originally Posted by bob ross View Post

      who is tiffany dow? I see her name favorably mentioned here and there
      Tiffany has been around here a looong time. She's synonymous with PLR material and straight up IM training without the hype. A good cat, by all accounts.

      Originally Posted by Aaron Doud View Post

      The percentage of people on this board that you can trust and who are making money (freelancing, employee, or business owner) is huge. You can spend a lot of time on other forums and listen to a lot of people who talk a good game. But here you get to listen to people who are really out there doing it.

      The difference is on this forum people don't boast about how much they made (and those are almost always inflated). They get respect from the knowledge they hand out for free. We don't need to see their bank accounts because we can tell by their advice that they know what they are talking about.

      You don't get that a lot on "making money" forums. We are very lucky to have that. I know personally I can ask any question and I will get real world advice from multiple quality sources.
      I agree. Also, the copywriting forum is laced with big earners, and a different breed, much like the offliners.

      It's a crazy forum overall. All these different "rooms" and with such a different atmosphere and demographic in each.

      Most people stay in the main forum and IMO, that's probably not a bad thing
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
    In no particular order....

    Bob Ross
    Ewen Mack
    Claude Whitacre
    Jason Kanigan
    Misterme
    JohnDurham
    Ken Michaels
    Iamnameless
    Maxrenz
    Vandenbergj
    Midasman09
    Aaron Doud
    Martin Buckley

    Thats just of the top of my head, apologies for misspellings
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post

      In no particular order....

      Bob Ross
      Ewen Mack
      Claude Whitacre
      Jason Kanigan
      Misterme
      JohnDurham
      Ken Michaels
      Iamnameless
      Maxrenz
      Vandenbergj
      Midasman09
      Aaron Doud
      Martin Buckley

      Thats just of the top of my head, apologies for misspellings
      So...I get a Bronze medal?

      Good company. I'm honored. Thanks. My list is about the same, without my name, of course..
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      • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        So...I get a Bronze medal?
        Look at it this way, Claude.

        At least you bested Kanigan, for once
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  • Profile picture of the author thomasmps
    Iamnameless and Tiffany Dow because they tell it how it is without hype.. And I won't get bunch of emails talking about the next greatest wso!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author MarkJez
      Hi Nick,

      In your Allstar list (OP) you forgot to also include Andrew Cavanagh, and Wendy Garrett as per my last post.

      (For warriors who have never heard of Wendy Garrett - she is the creator of the PLR magazine we can give (or sell) to our prospects & clients for building instant credibility and getting them to use us for their IM requirements. http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ial-media.html

      (BTW, I'm not an affiliate - just a very grateful customer )
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  • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
    Warrior Ben should be added to the list been awhile since he has been in this section.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
    Should probably mention Willie Crawford.

    He was teaching offline methods even before I
    started talking about them here.

    Kindest regards,
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    • Profile picture of the author John Durham
      Originally Posted by AndrewCavanagh View Post

      Should probably mention Willie Crawford.

      He was teaching offline methods even before I
      started talking about them here.

      Kindest regards,
      Andrew Cavanagh

      Thanks Nick, sorry I haven't posted, its just that there are alot of great Warriors. I appreciate your sentiments my friend.

      You arent too bad yourself!

      Andrew (above) is really the guy that got it all started IMO. Although there are other teachers , he is the grandfather of the WF "Offline" BOOM! That isnt really arguable, I dont think. He himself may be the only one who wouldnt give him credit for that. We all owe him alot, even though some newbies dont know it.

      Ken Michaels is the most brilliant offline marketer I know of. I cant say enough about him, he is one of those guys that you might not have any idea how brilliant he actually is, because he doesn't let on publicly. What Ken thinks of as failure, for most people would be considered unbelievable success!

      He is also the most brilliant at warm lead generation that I know of, and has SEVERAL systems for it that are AMAZING!

      Personally I like SDentrepreneur's posts alot too.

      There are a whole slew of them for sure.

      -John

      Ps. John Bowers isnt a warrior, but he is the greatest offliner I have ever known, he never even leaves his desk, isnt a salesman, nor a webdesigner. He is just great at delegation and had a great business plan.

      I really admire great delegators. His best talent is managing managers. He runs two huge call centers, never leaves his desk. People just come to it when he calls, and he tells him what he wants, and they go out and make the salespeople do it. lol

      They recruit, they train, they write pitches. All he does is say "Make it work, or I will find someone who can", but he's really good at doing that.
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    @Claude - always golden

    Have to add the real Dan McCoy - and not just because he has a cool name.

    Dan
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  • Profile picture of the author globalpro
    Great list, and all are to be congratulated/thanked for their contributions here.

    Surprised no one mentioned David Preston. He's the one who originally sparked my interest in OM. Great guy BTW.
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  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
    It's a toss between Ghengis Khan and Napoleon.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    Scott Gallagher
    Brenden Clerget
    Christ Beatty
    Jason Kanigan

    These are in no particular order, just off the top of my head.
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    i like dr dan !!! very fresh style great value !!
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    @ Ken,

    I have heard that if nobody hates you, then you arent trying hard enough to be original....or something like that.
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    I have to say that recently I sit up and notice any post or thread with Claude Whitacre taking part.

    Seb
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
    Although having said that, all results come from IDEAS.

    So, even though tested ideas get top priority, off the wall, untested ideas should carry some merit too.

    I think that's one of the biggest problems I see in the IM community. People throw away ideas and expect specific results, despite the fact that doing things the way everyone else does them seldom leaves you "above the cattle" as I like to say.

    Marketing is really all about trying new things, standing out, and engaging with people at the same time. So, whilst tested methods are obviously a "safe" bet, I think more people in this community need to put weight on the unknown...

    ... because it's the unknown that ultimately becomes "known" for making people rich.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Durham
      Originally Posted by Nick Brighton View Post

      Although having said that, all results come from IDEAS.

      So, even though tested ideas get top priority, off the wall, untested ideas should carry some merit too.

      I think that's one of the biggest problems I see in the IM community. People throw away ideas and expect specific results, despite the fact that doing things the way everyone else does them seldom leaves you "above the cattle" as I like to say.
      I wholeheartedly agree Nick. Some things people suggest though are so far outside of principles that they clearly arent in the ballpark... for instance, it doesnt take much to understand that a square wheel wont roll... a collapsible round one is a fresh idea that might work, but a square one clearly wont and that isnt hard to critisize and say "'Man you are waaay to far out of the ballpark".

      However in keeping with your words, which are true, here I will give you Og Mandino's... and it will confirm what you are saying.

      "Experience is comparable to fashion, an idea that worked yesterday will be completely unthinkable to tomorrow. Trends come and go, only principles endure. Furthermore the VALUE of experience diminishes with the time it takes to acquire her special wisdom, the end finds it wasted on dead men...

      The value of experienced is usually quoted by old men who nod wisely and speak stupidly....

      Not having the value of experience, shall I succeed? I have already stumbled in ignorance and fallen into pools of self pity... and the ignorant deeds of my past already loom to jeaopardize my future...

      I will succeed in only one way...

      Hence I will walk on, unencumbered, in the presence of all men with neither the handicapp of meaningless experience, nor the weight of unnecessary knowledge... I will simply persist, and I will succeed".


      The above quote probably isnt that accurate, I use to have the whole book memorized , but now I quote it less than accurately.

      Back when I was younger I used it to challenge all the old men nodding wisely and speaking stupidly (lol) saying I had to rebuttal three times on every call...and I persisted and hit my quoted without doing it.

      In any event,

      Persistence, and fire in the "belly", as they say, trumps experience every time. Trends come and go...Just remember that the basic "principles", such as "Square wheels dont roll", endure and never change.

      When I see a square wheel I call it out, because my experience see's the principle behind it...but Im all about new ideas.

      Heck, teach me some! (Actually you already have taught me some).
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              • Profile picture of the author Robert Domino
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                OK, that's Enough. You want your account suspended? Keep it up.
                Everyone here knows what you're doing.

                And John; Responding to this crap gives fuel to the flame. Let it go.
                Oh, the irony.

                Being suspended by someone who's work I complimented in this very thread for actually providing proof of what he preaches.

                I guess the secret is safe.
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  • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
    When i grow up, I want to be a diplomat ...
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    Selling Ain't for Sissies!
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  • Profile picture of the author samrand
    Great mentions so far! Definitely a Bob Ross fan . I would let
    that guy date my sister lol!

    Although not mentioned on the list
    OP had, I think an honorable mention is Sdotspells.

    I appreciate all of their contributions to this great community and I know ten's of thousands
    of warriors feel the same.

    Cheers,
    Sam
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    • Profile picture of the author bob ross
      Originally Posted by samrand View Post

      Great mentions so far! Definitely a Bob Ross fan . I would let
      that guy date my sister
      lol!

      Although not mentioned on the list
      OP had, I think an honorable mention is Sdotspells.

      I appreciate all of their contributions to this great community and I know ten's of thousands
      of warriors feel the same.

      Cheers,
      Sam
      Haha, thanks and thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
        Originally Posted by bob ross View Post

        Haha, thanks and thanks.
        hey, don't thank him, UNTIL after you know what his sister looks like
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  • Profile picture of the author Volux
    I've received a lot of help indirectly from John and Jason. Their stuff is really good and their feedback to a post or two of mine has helped a lot.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jwil1025
    Andrew Cavanagh gets my vote.
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    • Profile picture of the author jessiem
      Originally Posted by Jwil1025 View Post

      Andrew Cavanagh gets my vote.
      Same here and John Durham too.
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  • Profile picture of the author bluecoyotemedia
    I will go out on a limb and say

    bluecoyotemedia

    boy can this guy make things happen
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    A clandestine group operating without any external intervention or oversight. Such groups achieve significant breakthroughs rarely discussed in public because they operate "outside the box".
    https://short-stuff.com/-Mjk0fDExOA==

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