$15,000 in 60 Days with a $500 Budget

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Hi Forum members, My back is up against the wall. I have been doing small odds and ends projects for years. I have a good team I can outsource web development and other projects. I've always done this for extra money along the way. I do NOT have a huge portfolio of websites I developed. I've done some WordPress edits here and there.

Having stated that, I am now faced with an emergency that will require me to come up with $15,000 by May 1. I have a budget of $500 and I am seeking counsel/advice on how I can effectively use this money to market for web development services. I need assistance with lead generation, etc. I've got 60 days to meet my obligation and I am confident it can be done.

What resources for lead generation gives you the best bang for your buck? How would you approach my dilemma? What would be your focus?

Please advise and thanks in advance for any guidance and consideration given.

PS. I am not in danger of loosing my home or experiencing personal budget issues. I'm not looking for any hand outs. Yes my issue is unexpected inconvenience but I'm not in dire straights. I am simply looking for the best bang for my buck to deal with an unexpected occurrence. I hope this helps you all help me. Online marketing tips welcome as well. Thank you all.
#$15000 #$500 budget #60 days #budget #lead generation #marketing
  • Profile picture of the author Eddie Spangler
    Cant wait to hear the responses to this one!
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRealGOAT
      @Eddie - That makes 2 of us.
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      • Profile picture of the author af7850
        Going by the "monkey-see" status quo around here, you should produce a WSO titled "How I Made $15000 in 60 Days."



        ... serious reply to follow...
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        • Profile picture of the author af7850
          This is a big undertaking... First things first, realize that this will require a tremendous change in your daily life.

          From a financial standpoint, you are looking to achieve a 3000% return on your capital in 60 days. That's the kind of prospectus that would make Bernie Madoff blush. Not to say that it can't be done, but you need a big investment in additional principal (I.e. sweat equity) to make this feasible.

          The level of commitment you have given thus far is obviously not sufficient to reach your goal, and this must change if you have a prayer of succeeding. (What do you do for a day job? You might consider calling in sick. Do you have a fantasy baseball team? Chances are you won't be winning any pennants this year.)

          The way I see it, you have two choices:
          1. Sell a high-priced service that would allow you to reach our goal with only a couple of sales
          2. Sell a low-priced, highly duplicatible service or product that requires very little time per-sale for back-end customization and delivery, and sell a lot of them

          It's a tough decision to make when you have no existing marketing metrics to reference. Here's a sample of where I'm going with this...

          If you sell a $56 PLR product (such as the newsletter thread that's been up this past week), and you could achieve a 1% response rate on your marketing, you would have to:
          1. Be able to contact 5000 prospects for $.10 each (all of your money)
          2. Be able to achieve a 20% close rate, and collect payment in 48 hours
          3. Reinvest 100% in marketing ($560)
          4. Deliver product
          5. Wash rinse repeat.

          If you can consistently turn a 12% profit every 2 days, reinvest 100% every time, and do this for 60 straight days, you'll end up with $14980.00.

          PS. Your 60 days started yesterday, you're running behind schedule.

          So, the next question for you is...

          What do you have to offer, what is the sales price and how fast can you fulfill sales?
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          • Profile picture of the author Anniediva
            Wow! Sounds to me like Jason Taylor has a wicked hand on the wheel. It sounds like you could actually achieve your desired goal using some of his suggestions. I hope you have lots of extra time to work on your goal. Good luck and please keep us all informed. I truly hope you achieve your goal.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rearden
    Make 500 cold calls to local business people next week of 10 employees or less, for the next 12 weeks.

    Ask for the person responsible for the company's website. Ask to speak to the owner anyway if they don't have one.

    Introduce yourself, what you do, and ask for an appointment to show how you've helped other business owners like him with their online website presence.

    Fight to see 15 business owners each week -- strive to close 1/4 of them.

    Do the work yourself on the weekends when you're not prospecting -- sell each website for $600 to $800 -- $700 x 3.5 x 12 = right around $30,000 -- subtract a few grand for expenses, etc., and BAM.

    You're back in black.


    PS: Don't waste a dime on marketing -- you don't have the time or money to experiment and probably end up failing. Just pick up the freekin' phone and get to setting appointments.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    First let's take a few minutes to plan. I am making some assumptions here including the fact that you are time rich but money poor.

    1. How fast can you produce a website?
    2. Do you have sales experience? (I am hoping you do)
    3. Which way do you sell best? In person? On the phone?

    Let's say you can produce a basic website (say 5 pages in wordpress) in 2 hours. The market value of that website let's say is $499. So you have to produce at least 31 websites. Let's call it 40 to be safe and say you have 45 days to collect it (the money in the last 2 weeks you might not get paid in time and you lost today). So on the safe side we have to produce one website per day. Production of the website will be easy.

    The next question is can you sell one website per day? Even better can you sell two? That needs to be your goal.

    So how are we going to do this?
    1. Tomorrow you will run to office depot (or similar) and buy basic office supplies including business cards. Yes I know stuff is cheaper online but you don't have time for that.
    2. Buy a square reader for your smart phone (praying you have a smart phone)
    3. You will purchase a domain yournamedesign.com or similar. (remember you don't have time to get a DBA so you will have to use you name in the company name).
    4. You will buy hosting.
    5. You will design a website for yourself.
    - If you don't have professional clothes buy them as well
    All of these need to be completed before you go to bed tomorrow. No excuses.

    6. Monday morning you will get up and be at your bank when they open at 8am.
    7. You will open another account in your name for your business.
    8. Run home and set up your square account to go into that account at the bank.
    9. No later than 10am you need to start cold calling or cold walking. I will tell you that at this stage cold walk. Most people sell better in person.
    10. You continue to sell till you have two sales and it is 6pm or later. Sell 2 by 3pm? You still keep going till 6pm either way. 6pm and you have only sold 1? You keep going till businesses close.
    11. Once you get home design the websites before you go to bed. You will send for sign off in the morning.

    Day 2 +
    12. Wake up at 6am
    13. Email out designs for clients to sign off on.
    14. Start selling by 8am unless you are taking care of client changes but never start selling later than noon.
    15. Sell at least 1 per day following the 2 sold and 6pm method I mentioned above.
    16. Come home and design all websites you sold that day before you go to bed.

    Your goals will be to be up daily at 6am and be in bed by midnight.
    You want to sell 1 to 2 daily.

    Your $500 will be used to pay for basics and not used for marketing or anything else. Use it for gas and bills because the only way you are making $15k in 60 days is a whole lot of sweat and hard work.

    Remember to keep track of your miles in a log for taxes and keep receipts for all expenses. And remember due to taxes you will need to actually make more money in the following month (for a total of 90 days) to pay the taxes. So this is a 90 day plan not a 60 day plan.

    After 90 days you will create a new plan to carry the business forward if you wish to. But during the 90 days you will need to work 14 hours plus per day 6 (if not 7) days per week. And thought you will need to complete the work on the websites you must do that during non-business hours because during business hours you must be selling.

    This will be IMO about 1200 hours of work and you should gross about $25k which is about $20/hr before taxes.

    This is the reality of this.

    Are you ready to commit to this for 90 days? Can you handle this 90 day challenge?
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      If you need money that fast, I think selling is your best option. PPC ads may produce a quick result, but no guarantee of profits. Cold calling small businesses selling websites (keep it simple) is what I would do.

      You'll have no costs, and guaranteed profits. $15,000? In two months? The only reason you wouldn't make that is if you didn't try.

      Just don't bill them. Get the money upfront or upon completion. In person or on the phone, your choice.

      Added a few minutes later; Man, Aaron and Reardon really came through for you!
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  • Profile picture of the author Riz
    Apart from offering web development what other marketing skill sets do you have that you can sell?

    Knowing this will help you get better answers.
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  • Profile picture of the author shifat
    Well there are many ways you can make good profit out of $500 but it all depends on your skill,mindset,reputation in online.I would suggest you to start working on your biz right now,create a good professional online portfolio for the service you offer,start collecting reviews by giving away people free service in exchange for review & referral,join places in online such as forum,blogs & other places related to your niche & start exchanging,sharing ideas,tips to build yourself a trusted authority on your niche,harness the power of social media websites such as facebook,twitter,pinterest etc by creating a brand profile/fan page/account on those places & mingle with people related to your niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
    You are coming on a forum asking how to make $90,000 per year and apparently expecting legitimate answers that anyone can implement. Really?

    There's an awful lot of fantasy posted to this thread so far, so I would tread carefully. The truth is that you aren't going to get that money through just one thing. The internet related stuff is probably going to have to supplement something real world.

    Do you have an extra car you can sell? One you can trade down and replace with a "reliable transportation" type car? If you have a couple cars worth $10,000 each, there's your money right there if you did the buying and selling on craigslist.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

      You are coming on a forum asking how to make $90,000 per year and apparently expecting legitimate answers that anyone can implement. Really?

      There's an awful lot of fantasy posted to this thread so far, so I would tread carefully. The truth is that you aren't going to get that money through just one thing. The internet related stuff is probably going to have to supplement something real world.

      Do you have an extra car you can sell? One you can trade down and replace with a "reliable transportation" type car? If you have a couple cars worth $10,000 each, there's your money right there if you did the buying and selling on craigslist.
      i don't know where to start. So I'll point out a few things. I'm assuming you are really trying to help the OP. I really think you are. Let's start there.

      It isn't a fantasy if you are already doing it. I can't speak for everyone. But I know Aaron and Reardon are actively making money right now...today...selling. The OP has sales experience. I have successful sales experience so vast it's coming out of my ears.

      $7,500 a month is a fantasy? Are you serious? My mortgage is nearly that.
      One decent sale a week will do it. It's a minimum of effort. Really.

      Sell your cars?

      We aren't telling this guy to grow wings. None of this is theory. Nothing is made up. Nobody is leading him on. This isn't "Pie in the sky" wishful thinking.

      To be honest, $15,000 in two months isn't even enough to impress me.
      If a rep told me "Claude I earned $7,500 last month"...I'd say "And?..."

      Thousands of people are talking to business owners...today..making more than that...today.

      The fantasy here is that you think it's difficult.
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      • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        It isn't a fantasy if you are already doing it.
        This thread is about what's possible in the first 60 days, not what's possible in general backed by "people already doing it." If the title of the thread was "$15,000 in 6 months" my post would have had a different tone.

        This guy needs to go from zero to $90k a year on day one. That isn't going to happen. I'm just being realistic here. Something like that is a long term goal.

        And sometimes all it takes is someone to say something odd and their cover is blown. In the case of this thread, it's the guy who casually said you go home and design the sites you sold that day. You don't design multiple sites in one evening. Turn back the clock 15 years and it could be done since the standards of design quality were so low back then that it was almost just a data entry job moreso than a design one.

        Selling websites to local businesses is one of the protected babies of the offline forum. Many a bizopp seller that hangs around here promotes this method as a path to big money. Post to these threads pumping what a great concept it is and people are then more apt to buy your detailed WSO. That's the game in here, and I'm not playing along.

        Just to keep this post useful for the OP.... One thing you can do for local companies that have existing websites is offer recurring services to produce Facebook promo images for them. For instance, a pizza place that is active on Facebook can use them to notify customers of a sale this coming Friday. That stands out more than a text based announcement. You won't get rich doing just this, but it's something extra to offer. Adobe recently started giving away CS2 for free, so go download Photoshop and Illustrator if you don't already have them to do the work.
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        • Profile picture of the author EricGuimond
          Great thread!

          So lets kick it up a notch!

          Seems alot of people dont believe in tele-sales, I wanted to start this week and have time to call myself.

          I have a solid team of designers and developers now and things are going well but need to kick it up a notch and starting finding new clients as its been slow latelly.

          I also need to make one call phone sales as I dont currently live in my target area.

          I had a bit of with cold calling, but it was in my home city and alot of them easy to sell as they've seen my work in business's/restaurants they frequent. Need to expand with a good script and have time now to properly try it out!

          My proposal:

          If one of the EXPERTS here either wants to sell me a script or prefferably I have great graphic artists I can make a mini site, e-book, graphics or combo for a script.

          I will then give a copy to therealGOAT to help him get started.

          I'll go to town on the script and report back every week how I made out on it for example of what can be done.

          Any takers?

          Eric
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        • Profile picture of the author Robert Domino
          Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

          And sometimes all it takes is someone to say something odd and their cover is blown. In the case of this thread, it's the guy who casually said you go home and design the sites you sold that day. You don't design multiple sites in one evening. Turn back the clock 15 years and it could be done since the standards of design quality were so low back then that it was almost just a data entry job moreso than a design one.
          You would be surprised as to what people are able to sell. People are much better at selling than delivering.

          I was going through "web designer" resumes the other day. People had samples of their work. You know what they were? A bunch of websites made with Godaddy website builders and junk like that.

          They had actually found people to buy those ugly, unprofessional, amateurish websites.

          This is the bane of the offline marketing world. Anyone and their mother can suddenly become a "SEO professional" or a "website designer" or any other marketing related services which actually require technical skills, which they lack.

          Can you make 15,000 in 2 months? Most likely. But please don't do it at the expense of quality. It makes other marketers look like scammers.
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        • Profile picture of the author ckbank
          Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

          This thread is about what's possible in the first 60 days, not what's possible in general backed by "people already doing it." If the title of the thread was "$15,000 in 6 months" my post would have had a different tone.

          This guy needs to go from zero to $90k a year on day one. That isn't going to happen. I'm just being realistic here. Something like that is a long term goal.

          And sometimes all it takes is someone to say something odd and their cover is blown. In the case of this thread, it's the guy who casually said you go home and design the sites you sold that day. You don't design multiple sites in one evening. Turn back the clock 15 years and it could be done since the standards of design quality were so low back then that it was almost just a data entry job moreso than a design one.

          Selling websites to local businesses is one of the protected babies of the offline forum. Many a bizopp seller that hangs around here promotes this method as a path to big money. Post to these threads pumping what a great concept it is and people are then more apt to buy your detailed WSO. That's the game in here, and I'm not playing along.

          Just to keep this post useful for the OP.... One thing you can do for local companies that have existing websites is offer recurring services to produce Facebook promo images for them. For instance, a pizza place that is active on Facebook can use them to notify customers of a sale this coming Friday. That stands out more than a text based announcement. You won't get rich doing just this, but it's something extra to offer. Adobe recently started giving away CS2 for free, so go download Photoshop and Illustrator if you don't already have them to do the work.
          It's nice to be realistic, but no one person is the same. It's not okay to say "this is impossible."
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

          This thread is about what's possible in the first 60 days, not what's possible in general backed by "people already doing it." If the title of the thread was "$15,000 in 6 months" my post would have had a different tone.

          This guy needs to go from zero to $90k a year on day one. That isn't going to happen. I'm just being realistic here. Something like that is a long term goal.

          And sometimes all it takes is someone to say something odd and their cover is blown. In the case of this thread, it's the guy who casually said you go home and design the sites you sold that day. You don't design multiple sites in one evening. Turn back the clock 15 years and it could be done since the standards of design quality were so low back then that it was almost just a data entry job moreso than a design one.

          Selling websites to local businesses is one of the protected babies of the offline forum. Many a bizopp seller that hangs around here promotes this method as a path to big money. Post to these threads pumping what a great concept it is and people are then more apt to buy your detailed WSO. That's the game in here, and I'm not playing along.

          Just to keep this post useful for the OP.... One thing you can do for local companies that have existing websites is offer recurring services to produce Facebook promo images for them. For instance, a pizza place that is active on Facebook can use them to notify customers of a sale this coming Friday. That stands out more than a text based announcement. You won't get rich doing just this, but it's something extra to offer. Adobe recently started giving away CS2 for free, so go download Photoshop and Illustrator if you don't already have them to do the work.
          DubDubDubDot;

          First, thank you for an intelligent and real response.

          Here is something I didn't post, but should have. You say "$90,000 a year".

          And I know that "$15,000 in two months" is easier. Here's why. We all have a list of people we know. And they have a list of people they know. If you stick locally, with people you know (even slightly) you'll have a much easier time of it. It actually gets harder, as you move away from people who know you, even a little.

          My experience with new salespeople, is that they produce the best results at the beginning. Because they are seeing people that they are at ease talking to. They soon run out of that low hanging fruit, and have to talk to complete strangers. Much harder, and most don't make it.

          If selling online services (or any form of advertising), you can just pick up any advertising coupon magazine, like a Gold Clipper, and see who has a full page ad. Those are the people that you call first. They are already believers.

          You can also call on new businesses. Get a list of new businesses by the fact that they changed their utilities to the new business. You can get that list at the courthouse. Those people are ready, and waiting. While you are looking for them, they are looking for you.

          And...It's simply easier to keep up high activity when you know there is an end to it. In 2 months, the OP can stop working at such a pace. It's like your own personal sales contest.

          My idea (Which I didn't articulate) would be to sell, sell, sell, get paid, and build sites (or whatever the service is) in non sales time. You could even position it as a great deal, because you will be delivering a little later.

          I sell high end full online services to business owners. They know that I'll be delivering in pieces over the next couple of months. Everything isn't done that day. In fact, nothing is done for a couple of weeks. As long as that is part of your pitch, nobody seems to mind. Promising what you don't deliver? That they mind.

          Now, if the OP is used to making very little money, all this is wasted. My image is of a bright guy that is willing to work. But I don't know him.

          New people have a huge advantage. They already know several ideal prospects. All the "establishing trust" has already been done. That's where you start.

          When I hired new reps, the "$7,500 a month" wasn't unusual at all. What was unusual was them lasting long enough for the "$90,000 a year".

          It's a different experience, is all.

          Claude "Can't we all just get along?" Whitacre
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          • Profile picture of the author patadeperro
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            DubDubDubDot;

            Now, if the OP is used to making very little money, all this is wasted. My image is of a bright guy that is willing to work. But I don't know him.
            I think this is the key point of everything that has been written here, for many people as Claude 9,000/month is not a lot, but there are others that 1,000/month will change their lives and everything lays in the ability each one has to create wealth.

            All the advice you are giving him I am sure that can be turned into a fortune given some circumstances two of the most important are:

            a) That op follows the advice.

            b) That he already possesses the right mental frame.

            There are people that with pen and paper can create fortunes (sales letter, books worth Nobel prices) and some others cant write a thing, so giving the same tools people get different results depending on their mental frame, skill and circumstances.
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        • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
          Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

          This thread is about what's possible in the first 60 days, not what's possible in general backed by "people already doing it." If the title of the thread was "$15,000 in 6 months" my post would have had a different tone.

          This guy needs to go from zero to $90k a year on day one. That isn't going to happen. I'm just being realistic here.
          Ok I'm just going to come right out and say it. You're an idiot. You sound like a miserable, cold hearted person who has failed at absolutely everything you have tried and have to come onto a forum to shit on other peoples dreams because you have nothing better to do with your wasted time.

          I have 4 brothers and a very big family overall. I have seen numerous people in my family, their first year out of college, make 90k+. With 0 experience in their respected field. Like my brother who got his degree in business, then started doing sales for a local biz down the road, made 120k his first year. His job was purely commission based, and his college degree didn't count for shit. I also broke 90k my first year on WF, and it wasn't selling web design but web design was how I got started the first 3 months. The only thing that matters is if a person is hungry enough, and wants it bad enough, they will make it.

          I can go through each person in my family, and you'd still find a reason to argue about why it doesn't apply to this thread. I have seen you post on this forum, and I know that you can't control yourself. Its in your nature to degrade people and be "realistic" by being the most negative mfkr who exists. Thats what I call irony. You lost all your credibility on WF after about the 3rd time you tried to pull that garbage.

          Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

          Post to these threads pumping what a great concept it is and people are then more apt to buy your detailed WSO. That's the game in here, and I'm not playing along.
          Thats great, you're a genius! All this time we've all been left in the dark and a man named "dubdubdubdot" comes out to save us all!!!!! I can't imagine where we'd all be without your brilliant access to complicated dark truths and conspiracies about life, WSO's and success.

          All praise dubdubdubdot as the prophet that he is. The prophet of WF. The light bringer. The one who sheds a crystal clear sentiment to our fuzzy, distorted realities of life.

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          But seriously.

          You are straight out of your mind.

          Let me ask you a serious question now. Do you like Alex Jones? Something tells me that you love the guy. I'm not sure what it is exactly.

          Implying that the entire WF system is broke because of WSOs is comprable to the fear mongers who say that the financial system was destroyed because of Sen Chuck Shumer. But in effort to not bring politics into this, I will only say this.

          Your statement makes some pretty gross, inaccurate assumptions merely based on what you implied. It assumes that:

          1) Most people on WF are wasting time chasing threads down, related to their WSOs, just so they can drop a post in the hopes of getting rich.

          2) You assume that this technique is actually profitable in the first place. But have you ever examined the few people who do this on a regular basis? They're barely making any money at all. This is evident in their WSO threads. That means incentive to perform this type of behavoir is far lower than your twisted mind needs believe.

          3) You make a more assinine assumption by implying that you somehow know the OP and that he will fail. Especially after he's made a thread where obvious triggers to success (in his environment) are becoming that much more prominent. Which if anything, will increase his chances for success, not diminish them.

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          In the end, it seems like the most "rational" stance to assume, would be the fact that you're crazy.

          Till this point, you have made it on this forum with your ridiculous accusations and fear mongering nonsense, and if there anything you should be applauded for, its that. You are the hudini of trolls. You escape capture at every failed conquest. Its like that time an annoying little mouse stumbled into my backyard and I tried to kill it. But I missed the first 3 times and wound up feeling bad for it, so I decided to put it in a cage and keep it alive/give it food.

          Thats how I view your life long contribution to WF.
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        • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
          Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

          This thread is about what's possible in the first 60 days, not what's possible in general backed by "people already doing it." If the title of the thread was "$15,000 in 6 months" my post would have had a different tone.

          This guy needs to go from zero to $90k a year on day one. That isn't going to happen. I'm just being realistic here. Something like that is a long term goal.

          And sometimes all it takes is someone to say something odd and their cover is blown. In the case of this thread, it's the guy who casually said you go home and design the sites you sold that day. You don't design multiple sites in one evening. Turn back the clock 15 years and it could be done since the standards of design quality were so low back then that it was almost just a data entry job moreso than a design one.

          Selling websites to local businesses is one of the protected babies of the offline forum. Many a bizopp seller that hangs around here promotes this method as a path to big money. Post to these threads pumping what a great concept it is and people are then more apt to buy your detailed WSO. That's the game in here, and I'm not playing along.

          Just to keep this post useful for the OP.... One thing you can do for local companies that have existing websites is offer recurring services to produce Facebook promo images for them. For instance, a pizza place that is active on Facebook can use them to notify customers of a sale this coming Friday. That stands out more than a text based announcement. You won't get rich doing just this, but it's something extra to offer. Adobe recently started giving away CS2 for free, so go download Photoshop and Illustrator if you don't already have them to do the work.
          Since it appears I am being "called out" here based on the "guy who casually said you go home and design the sites you sold that day" part of this message I am going to directly address this. I like to address points in the order they are brought up so I will start at the beginning of your post here and get to each point.

          1. He said he needs $15k. Myself and others gave advice on how to get there. My post honestly was meant to scare him from this idea unless he was willing to fully commit. The only way to build a business that fast is to work your ass off. Reread what I wrote. The "plan" I gave him was based on 6 to 7 day workweeks averaging over 14 hours a day. It was not some 4 Hour Work Week Muse. If I remember right I suggested 1100 hours over 90 days with a total revenue goal of $25k for a before taxes rate of about $23/hr. If you don't believe a guy can make that much working his ass off that's fine. But I personally do believe if they have the skill and drive that this should be possible. Will it be easy? Of course not and I don't think anyone who read my post would think it was. My post was designed to give him a harsh look at what he wanted to do.

          2. No one is going to $90k on day one. But you get to $90k/yr one day at a time. You get to $90k/yr by selling at least one item of $350 every day, 5 days a week, 52 weeks a year. You don't focus on the $90/k/yr you focus on the $350/day goal. Anyone who has been in sales knows your daily, weekly, and monthly goals are how you make money. Focus on a yearly goal and you will fail. And trust me if I guy isn't making his $1750 weekly goal after a few weeks he will never make his $90k goal. Green salespeople often sell the best because they don't know what they can't do. In my experience as a sales manager I've known within the first 2 to 3 weeks of having a guy on the floor rather he will become a top sales guy. Once he gets pulled into the huddle he is destined for average. And for anyone who doesn't know what I mean by the huddle just ask.

          3. Now we get to you saying my cover is blown? To that I ask what cover? I am one of the few people who has posted how much I make per year. Which based on what others have posted or hinted at is a lot less than many of them. In fact other than posting exactly where I work I have said what I do (Internet Marketing & Sales for an RV dealership), what I have done (management & sales for retail, restaurants, and RVs), and why I post here (to get advice on the technical side of thing while offering sales & business advice based on my experience). Hell I post with my real name. If someone wanted to show up at my work it wouldn't be hard to find me. So really what cover? I don't have a cover. I honestly would say I am the most open book here (Claude may be more open).

          4. I never casually said to make the sites at night. I told him to pull this off he had no choice but to do that. If you read by post you will see I assumed the sites would take him two hours to make and he would sell one to two each day. I also mention that he will need to email over proofs the next day to the client. I am sorry that I did not go into detail and say every day he will need to reedit these based on the client feedback. I made the assumption that this was a given.

          So where did I get my time numbers? I can back mine up and I pointed to some of it in my post. First I told him to sell simple 5 page $500 sites using WordPress. A $500 site is simple. Hell based on industry standard pricing for web design it should be 4 hours or less of work ($125/hr). And part of that "time" is completed via the theme. So that is why I was figuring around 2 hours per site with maybe some going 3 or 4 hours when edits are figured in. Will he sell some bigger sites that take longer? We all hope so. But if he sells a $1500 website he can base it on the idea of having sold 3 smaller sites.

          In order to pull off this level of money he needs to be selling most if not 100% of business hours. Thus he must work on the sites a night. He needs the money and doesn't yet have a trusted outsourcer so he needs to do it himself. He doesn't have the time or money to risk on unknowns. As long as he is "time rich and money poor" like I said this is how he has to approach it. IMO any other method risks too much. He will have to work his ass off to pull this off. Plus we have to assume he can do web design fast and well (he choose this not me) and that he can sell (if he can't sell there is no way this will happen).

          5. Why don't you design multiple quick and easy sites in a night? With WordPress designing simple sites is way easier than it was 15 years ago. Even with a WYSIWYG editor it was going to take a while since certain elements had to be redone multiple times vs. once in WordPress. Plus you know you had to actually design something vs modifying a theme. And for a cheap site how much modifying is there? But hey if you want to spend 10 hours working on a $500 website be my guest. But you would be better off selling it for $1500 if you plan to spend 10 hour or more on it. Trust me real businesses don't buy from people who under value. Cheap is expensive in the long run and if you are not charging industry standard prices it tells us to can't charge them.

          Honestly I will say the standards of design are a lot lower now vs. 15 years ago. 15 years ago no web designer in their right mind would try to sell the cookie cutter websites like get sold today. In my industry a major player is selling cookie cutter WordPress sites to RV Dealers. WordPress helps make them look nice compared to the GeoCities pages of the past but the truth is a cheap WordPress site takes the same or less time than making a 5 page site with GeoCities did. It simple visually looks better. Which is really more like "data entry"? Let's be honest here.

          6. Are there people here who promote the crap out of their methods and hype how they can make guys rich? Yeah but honestly this section has a lot less of them. Most of the people promoting methods here actually doing said methods themselves and making money. They choose the "sell the method" form of expansion vs. the "scale the model" form. If you actually knew me you will see I am a supporter of the "scale the model" version. I think people should stop working themselves and stop using outsourcers. I believe they should build real businesses with real employees.

          7. I'm trying to figure out if this was meant to be about me as well since I was the one being called out. I have never sold a WSO. Not even sure I ever would. Not really worth the time IMO. If I wanted to be a "guru" I'd aim a lot bigger. Why would I want to be "The Rich Jerk" when every high end trainer of the past has proved the money in training is off line. You can add elements of online to the mix. But why would people like Tony Robbins continue to do live training if they could make more easier online? The reason is simple IMO, they can't. You make the big money and sell the big courses by offering in person and physical products. Look at the guys really making money? How are they doing it? Claude does it on a lower level and appears to make a killing doing it. Hell even the "Warrior Events" is built around this idea.

          8. Promo images for Facebook? That is an ok add on service but IMO is the kind of thing you throw in to sweeten the pot. But it would be a bad idea as a main business idea. Because what is the value to the client? How much money will you get out of them per image? How much "selling" will be needed to close them on it? This simply is better as a service you can do for them, an upsell to existing clients. Also in relation to the OP has he even said anything to make us believe he has graphic design skills?

          9. In closing I gave the OP a realistic and maybe even a bit harsh version of how he "could" make this happen if he truly wanted to. It was based on what he said he wanted to sell. It told him that he was going to have to pound the pavement or pound the phones. If you personally don't think it was realistic that is fine. I think I made it clear that while it is possible it would be hard. I wasn't going to beat the kid down and tell him he couldn't do it. Nor was I going to sugar coat it and act like this will be easy.

          I also pointed out how he would need to follow the plan for longer than 60 days because he would need to make money to pay his taxes.

          I also told him to go after the low hanging fruit with $500 websites. While he might get some bigger clients out of that he needs volume and easy work right now to even have a shot of pulling this off. Could he land one $15k client and be good to go? Yeah but if he could land a $15k client he would have never posted this thread. So I gave him advice aimed at a relative newbie who had the skills but not a load of experience.

          His skills and experience will allow him to take what myself and others offered him and make a plan that works for him. Can he pull it off? I honestly don't know because the only person who can make this happen is him.

          BTW if for some reason that post was not aimed at me I apologize for this reply. But it did appear aimed at me.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRealGOAT
    Man I love this place! Thank you all for the incredible feedback given. Please see my response to each of you below:

    @Jason - Thanks for the reality check... although very doable, it puts things in perspective. Your right, I'm looking at a 3,000% return. I guess that's the beauty of math being an exact science. I know exactly what I have and what I've got to GO GET. I have been grappling with the 2 points you mentioned below :

    1. Sell a high-priced service that would allow you to reach our goal with only a couple of sales
    2. Sell a low-priced, highly duplicatible service or product that requires very little time per-sale for back-end customization and delivery, and sell a lot of them"

    I think I more inclined to price condition the business owner and let them know we can build something ranging from as little as $500 up to $$6,000, $7000 or even higher depending on which route you would like to entertain. By price conditioning I should be able to soften the blow and manage expectations when it comes down to closing the sale. Thanks again for your contribution.

    Last but not least, I would like to answer your question. Wordpress Web Development is what I have to offer. My price point will be $400 to $800 for template make overs and customization and up to $3,000 to $5,000 for custom designs.

    @Rearden - Thanks a million! More priceless information. I'm accustomed to selling. So much so, I've kept track of my personal closing percentage for the past 3 years. Gross close (credit turn downs included) and Net close (Credit Approved or Cash Customers - Also know as Good Money in my neck of the woods). I typically close at better than 30%. I've never focused on web services. Why... I don't know. But I love the guidance you've provided. In reference to your statements below:

    "Fight to see 15 business owners each week -- strive to close 1/4 of them.

    Do the work yourself on the weekends when you're not prospecting -- sell each website for $600 to $800 -- $700 x 3.5 x 12 = right around $30,000 -- subtract a few grand for expenses, etc., and BAM."


    I believe it's totally doable. Even if I am able to close 1/8 (half of the goal you set above) I will hit my mark.

    I also hear you loud and clear when it comes to not spending any money on marketing. I'll definitely be sure to pick up the phone and go to work! Thank you for taking the time to share your expertise.

    @Aaron - I don't know where to start. Thanks for the detail. All the way down to the planning phase. Amazing to say the least. I think you'll be glad to hear that I have several business accounts already established. I've got a business cards and the like. Which brings to the second part of Day 1 and Day 2. Cold Walking will be more of challenge since my regular 9 to 5 is so time intense. I am going to have to work through this though. Every chance I get I will pick up the 5,000 pound phone or visit a business to discuss my services. I love the idea of the 90 day plan as well. I am going to commit to making 50 contacts a day. 1 way or another. The one thing that is evident from your post. I'm going to have to put in the time whether it's 14 hour days... or working 7 days a week. It is up to me to make the sacrifice to achieve my goal. As you advised, I will use the $500 for expenses and make sure I spend more than enough "Sweat Equity' to cover the cost of marketing. Last but not least, in reference to your quote below:

    "This will be IMO about 1200 hours of work and you should gross about $25k which is about $20/hr before taxes.

    This is the reality of this.

    Are you ready to commit to this for 90 days? Can you handle this 90 day challenge?"


    I am up to the challenge. If it is to be it is up to me. Thank you kind Sir. You are appreciated.

    @Claude - Thank you as well. It has become overwhelmingly apparent that I am more than capable of making the money without spending the $500 on marketing. I will definitely roll up my sleeves on this one and go to work. As you stated. It will be my fault if I do not make it. As far as collections... more priceless info. I've been a position before when they didn't pay for services rendered. I will definitely make sure I adhere to your advice on this matter.

    In reference to your quote below:

    "Added a few minutes later; Man, Aaron and Reardon really came through for you!"

    Man did they ever... I've got to throw you in that boat as well. I appreciate you all. I appreciate recieving this invaluable information and look forward to embarking on a whirlwind journey that will end with me crossing the finish line with no less than $15,000 in my pocket to show for my efforts.

    Thanks again. I'll be sure to keep you all posted along the way.

    Regards,

    TRG
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  • Profile picture of the author rgb
    There is a saying I heard it a few years back from a friend of mine, sounds something like this:

    "who works doesn't have time to make money"

    Yep, so working hard might not be the best idea on this one, being able to focus, have a clear/sharp mind - try to make funnels and goals.

    So that being said and based of the info provided I propose the following:

    1. Lets assume that you have a smart phone and can record a video, go to the top 10 best websites that would sell similar services like yours and try to use their sales pitch to create your very own sales video, casual, normal dont over think it.

    2. Record your 2-5 minutes video

    3. Now put on a squeeze page and a full website behind to sell a brand new website for small local businesses (priced $670 - but a complete hassle free website)

    4. Build a laser targeted ad words campaign

    5. Assuming that you know what you are doing you should expect in the worst case scenario I think a 0.1% to 0.3% conversions.

    That means spending $500 - will get you more than 1000 visitors and you should be able to convert at least 1-3 people.

    If you use proper tracking and have a proper funnel in place this should go much better.

    Out source the project to "warrior for hire" you might spend in some cases less than $300.

    Use each of your team member to do this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rearden
    You can do it.

    I did 256 cold phone calls last week and set 25 appointments to discuss a highly competitive, commodity service where I have have 5 other competitors who are pounding the phone and cold walking just like me.

    Most web design guys still live in their Mammy's basement. Bet there's virtually zero competition for an aggressive go-getter local web guy in your neck of the woods.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    GOAT,

    Glad you are seeing the value we tried to give you.

    As I always say everyone is successful. You just have to decide what you want to be successful at.

    Myself I am very successful at enjoying food. And I choose to not be successful in losing weight.

    Once you truly commit you really can't fail.
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  • Profile picture of the author Volux
    Coming a spectator and mainly newbie to IMing viewpoint, everything in this thread is pure gold.

    Just want to give my personal thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author AlwaysAwa
    One word Amazing, find this thread worth the time spending reading.
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  • Profile picture of the author ckbank
    Originally Posted by TheRealGOAT View Post

    Hi Forum members, My back is up against the wall. I have been doing small odds and ends projects for years. I have a good team I can outsource web development and other projects. I've always done this for extra money along the way. I do NOT have a huge portfolio of websites I developed. I've done some WordPress edits here and there.

    Having stated that, I am now faced with an emergency that will require me to come up with $15,000 by May 1. I have a budget of $500 and I am seeking counsel/advice on how I can effectively use this money to market for web development services. I need assistance with lead generation, etc. I've got 60 days to meet my obligation and I am confident it can be done.

    What resources for lead generation gives you the best bang for your buck? How would you approach my dilemma? What would be your focus?

    Please advise and thanks in advance for any guidance and consideration given.

    PS. I am not in danger of loosing my home or experiencing personal budget issues. I'm not looking for any hand outs. Yes my issue is unexpected inconvenience but I'm not in dire straights. I am simply looking for the best bang for my buck to deal with an unexpected occurrence. I hope this helps you all help me. Online marketing tips welcome as well. Thank you all.
    If you had web design authority, you could make $15,000 in a week with a single website. Assuming you don't have that authority, you can outsource 15 web designs @ $1200 and keep the $1000 for yourself. As far as lead generation goes, have the mentality of a warrior, but try and be smart at the same time. Advertising and marketing is all about convincing people to take action and that's done with a good sales letter and good targeting. If you would like to generate good leads, use the yellow pages and similar tools for finding plumbers and such who don't have websites.
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  • Profile picture of the author mgreat118
    All I can say is im a real newbie havent even made any money yet and ive been trying for over 6 months now, only found this site last week but its full of infomation so learning new things every day I cant wait to post back on here I made my first sale lol so good luck to you hope it all works out for you
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Perhaps I missed these or similar suggestions in the thread.
    But, since you have a team, you could use their work as samples.
    After all - it's your job to feed them.

    In addition to bread and butter work, you could
    develop and simultaneously market
    the $1500 to $6000 (on up) packages.

    Justin Brooke at sitefling.com (Not Affiliated) may
    still have on his blog archives how he did what
    you are trying to do with SEO services.

    It involved self-publishing a hard-cover book (approx 50 pages)
    about SEO. (I can't recall the source for publishing, but it's
    easily Googled and I'm sure others could speak up here, or
    you could post another thread.) Limited run, to fit your budget.
    Then he spoke at and/or attended Chamber of Commerce (or maybe
    Meetup or both) events and got that book in as many qualified and
    interested hands as he could.

    Because not many offline consultants have a hard cover book
    that they wrote, he was quickly viewed as an expert (which he is)
    and had enough people call him to get the amount of business
    you are seeking in about the same time frame.
    (Or at least that amount under contract.)

    Good luck to you. I think it's doable, or at least hopefully
    close enough for what you need to do.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...s-per-day.html

    http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...ccess-tip.html

    http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...rting-now.html

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  • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
    Your FOUR priorities, in order of importance:
    1. Customer Acquisition
    2. Customer Satisfaction
    3. Customer Loyalty
    4. Referrals.

    Get out there and start getting new customers like crazy. Beat your head against 1,000 walls as quickly as you can. Dig up every interested person and pitch them. When you get a sale, don't stop to fulfill, keep selling.

    It wont be long till you have a ton of orders and you have to figure out how to deliver. That is a great problem to have.
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  • Profile picture of the author voiceofreason
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    Maybe I missed it, but did not see this particular step covered:

    Put everyone you talk to in a database!

    BY the end of the 60 days, if you keep up with this level of contact, you'll have created yourself a veritable gold-mine. The difference between a typical offliner, and a 6 figure+ offliner?

    One of them has a database and keeps up to date notes! This can be done with something as simple as Excel, or you can make use of a cheap CRM.

    The fact of the matter is, almost every person you talk to, even if not interested at the moment is a potential future customer. Build your database up to 1,000 names with detailed notes, names, and dates...

    Now when you circle back to touch these people a few months down the road you'll wow them with your "Great memory" and relevant topics.

    Many salesmen discount the idea that a database can double or triple your income -I've yet to see any of those doubters do much successful selling. haha

    Oldie but goodie - And could pay off even during your first 60 days as you'd be surprised how many interested prospects you forget to call back, or meet with because you're so busy hustling.

    Best of luck to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Praney Behl
    There is just massive amount of tips, tricks and pure information in this thread for me to absorb.
    I have been into online marketing and software development for a few years now and only now starting in Offline Marketing. I have build various tools to harvest leads from different niches and other tools will help do most work automatically which surely helps.

    I am silently following this and some other similar threads that talk about various techniques for Offline starters.

    Since last 3 weeks I have been working on formulating my plan of attack and conquer for all the potential leads I have captured.

    I must say THANK YOU to all who have contributed to this informative thread.
    A big challenge for me is that I have always been afraid of public speaking and contact. But I think giving it a good shot would not kill me so I'm gonna go ahead.

    I shall later share what I did and what were the results.

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    • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
      Originally Posted by Praney Behl View Post

      There is just massive amount of tips, tricks and pure information in this thread for me to absorb.
      I have been into online marketing and software development for a few years now and only now starting in Offline Marketing. I have build various tools to harvest leads from different niches and other tools will help do most work automatically which surely helps.

      I am silently following this and some other similar threads that talk about various techniques for Offline starters.

      Since last 3 weeks I have been working on formulating my plan of attack and conquer for all the potential leads I have captured.

      I must say THANK YOU to all who have contributed to this informative thread.
      A big challenge for me is that I have always been afraid of public speaking and contact. But I think giving it a good shot would not kill me so I'm gonna go ahead.

      I shall later share what I did and what were the results.

      Praney
      A big key here to get over that fear is to truly deep down believe you are an expert and those you are going to talk to will get value from the interaction.

      If you truly believe that you have no reason to be afraid. It's all in your mind. Hell some people can fake it till they make it just by believing that.
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      • Profile picture of the author marketwar
        Wow! What a thread..Pure Gold written all over...Absolute gems for people into offline marketing..keenly following this Gold thread...
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  • Profile picture of the author Adrian John
    Cold Calling +/- Appointments + Outsourcing the service you want to sell.
    Now it all depends on you.How big is the need of the $15k?
    JUST DO IT
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  • Profile picture of the author cararta
    Invigorating discussion.
    With all the programs I've seen lately, some with built in "scalpers" etc. I just hope that TheRealGoat will be able to use all of this Great Advise and meet his deadline.

    The last program I looked at for off line Marketers even had a marketing course with scripts and videos to train you in what to say....It was marketing sites that would rank #1 in the niche...scaled for luring away PPC customers for less per month than what they were spending...surprised there was not a mention of QRcodes which are great for restaurants etc. and have a monthly fee and a healthy sales price.

    Thanks to all you guys for sharing....
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  • Profile picture of the author ronrule
    Originally Posted by TheRealGOAT View Post

    Hi Forum members, My back is up against the wall. I have been doing small odds and ends projects for years. I have a good team I can outsource web development and other projects. I've always done this for extra money along the way. I do NOT have a huge portfolio of websites I developed. I've done some WordPress edits here and there.

    Having stated that, I am now faced with an emergency that will require me to come up with $15,000 by May 1. I have a budget of $500 and I am seeking counsel/advice on how I can effectively use this money to market for web development services. I need assistance with lead generation, etc. I've got 60 days to meet my obligation and I am confident it can be done.

    What resources for lead generation gives you the best bang for your buck? How would you approach my dilemma? What would be your focus?

    Please advise and thanks in advance for any guidance and consideration given.

    PS. I am not in danger of loosing my home or experiencing personal budget issues. I'm not looking for any hand outs. Yes my issue is unexpected inconvenience but I'm not in dire straights. I am simply looking for the best bang for my buck to deal with an unexpected occurrence. I hope this helps you all help me. Online marketing tips welcome as well. Thank you all.
    Honestly man... save your $500, it puts you that much closer to your goal. There is no WSO or marketing opportunity that will get you from $500 to $15,000 in 60 days unless you already have a website with products for sale.

    If I were in your situation, I'd just pick up the phone and start calling businesses offering $2,500 website makeovers. All you need are 6 people to say yes to reach your goal, and it gives you a little over a week per site to do the work. Get on the phone and start calling... you'll be hung up on, cussed out, shot down, etc. but persist. Someone will say yes. Then, keep going. Once you have confirmed yes's, do the work - you can use a WP template as a starting point, throw in a little customization, and and roll with it from there. It's not a lot of money, and it's not hard to get there in your timeframe if you're willing to put in the effort.
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  • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
    Hopefully the reason he hasn't responded to this topic is because he is out there making it happen! C'mon goat... Give us an update!
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  • Profile picture of the author markethealth02
    $15 grand in 2 months, wow, id be happy with $1000. Post your log here dude I wonna see how this goes/
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  • Profile picture of the author TheSecretsOfSEO
    I'd be impressed if this thread got bumped after 2 months with the reply "I did it!"
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    • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
      Originally Posted by TheSecretsOfSEO View Post

      I'd be impressed if this thread got bumped after 2 months with the reply "I did it!"
      I hope we get an update on how it went.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jon Martin
        Originally Posted by Aaron Doud View Post

        I hope we get an update on how it went.
        Me too.

        Hey OP.... you're at the halfway point! How's it coming along?
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        • Profile picture of the author RimaNaj2011
          Get a website made for $50, sell to local business for $1000+. just cold call.
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  • Profile picture of the author BigGameHunter
    If the OP follows the advice given on this thread there should be no reason why he would fall short of his goal.

    Couple of things I would add to this.
    As a real estate investor I am very familiar with: contractors, attorneys, mortgage brokers and settlement companies.I would focus my attention on businesses I am familiar with. Immediately, your price points raise because you know the business model of your customer and the jargon of the business.

    The website would be my front end.... Upsell, Upsell, Upsell lots of other services. Custom graphics, custom sales letters, custom direct mail pieces, printing services, press releases, video's etc.

    In conjunction with my method, I would build the site, get it ranking for 3-4 keywords in their market (Chicago settlement attorney) and sell the site. Again, a much higher price point. I would use the site as an example of my work...AND

    If the potential customer won't buy my site.... I would add a simple opt in and go in the lead selling business. Roofing contractors, heating and air contractors, landscapers will pay $100+ per lead no problem. Five leads= 1 small site = $500.

    We use bird dogs in real estate to find the hot deals. Online they are known as JVs. I would build a bird dog net work to find new business.

    I would have a hell of a lot of back end sales in my marketing bag when I hit the bricks.

    I got carried away a bit as this is more than a couple of things. Good news is I could go on and on and build a long term business with recurring income with these methods. This is the difference between the pretenders and experienced businessmen/businesswomen.

    RealGoat it's your turn. How about an update.
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  • Profile picture of the author sdentrepreneur
    You have many options to accomplish this, it really depends on your skill level and type of services you offer. I am going to assume since this is a Offline Marketing Forum, that is what you can offer to clients.

    My first suggestion to all new Offline Marketers, is to become your own first client. What would you do....if you hired yourself to market your business?

    1. Create a Internet Marketing Consultant website.
    2. Position your website on Google Page One where people are searching for your services. (Spend your $500.00 on Google Adwords)
    3. Attend local business and chamber mixers.
    4. Get leads from Google Search and Face to Face Networking
    5. Land 5 clients at $2,500 per month, or 10 clients at $1,500 per month.

    I have done exactly what I said above since 2008, average $15K to $25K months and have done all that with outsourcing my work. I have NO desire to be an Agency.
    Good luck !!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    Yeah can we get a 30 day update? Though if he is working his butt off he may be too busy for WF
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  • Profile picture of the author Talltom1
    Hey Aaron,

    I read your original post up near the beginning. Awesome advice!!!

    Talltom
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  • Profile picture of the author Talltom1
    Hey Aaron,
    He hasn't logged in since 4/21
    Your original response though was AWESOME advice BTW

    Tom
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    • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
      Originally Posted by Talltom1 View Post

      Hey Aaron,
      He hasn't logged in since 4/21
      Your original response though was AWESOME advice BTW

      Tom

      Thanks I tried to just give him an honest rundown of what I would do. The literally if I lost my job tomorrow and needed to get the cash to pay for my Corvette.

      I really want to know if he did anything with it.

      Even if he didn't he could at least pm me from his new name to tell me that.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
    There's already been some great feedback here.

    I would just say the $500 is pretty much irrelevant if you're going
    to do this.

    What's important is the amount of personal effort you put in.

    To make that money as people have already said, you need to be
    getting yourself in front of business owners and you need to be
    charging upfront before you do work (you could charge 50% upfront
    ...then get the work done inside 60 days).

    16 or 17 $1,000 clients or
    8 $2,500 clients or
    3 $5,000 clients
    1 $15,000 client (think businesses who make HUGE amount of money
    when they bring in just one paying client...they often have money to
    invest)

    or some combination of those will get you into the
    ballpark for your goal.

    You may need a few more if you're going to pay for
    outsourcing work.

    And you're going to have to spend a huge percentage
    of your daylight hours face to face or on the phone with
    business owners.

    Kindest regards,
    Andrew Cavanagh
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  • Profile picture of the author adeelhmd
    We aren't telling this guy to grow wings. None of this is theory. Nothing is made up. Nobody is leading him on. This isn't "Pie in the sky" wishful thinking.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMStrategus
    I thought you already made $15k in 2 months and were sharing your experience.

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  • Profile picture of the author seonutshell
    Really really good idea. I may try this.

    Remember, when doing face to face selling, big build up, small ask.
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  • Profile picture of the author Noctilus
    It would be so good if the OP gave his update. At least the rest of us who combed through this entire thread learned a MASSIVE amount thanks to tons of expert experienced advice. Big thank you and hope to see an update if the $15k mark was indeed reached.
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  • Profile picture of the author TeamBringIt
    Lots of good, advice indeed. Hopefully Op reached his goal
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