How much do you charge for Local SEO

by lirikh
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Hello,

I am wondering what's the average going rate for local seo services. For example: google places listing + 30 citations per month --> how much would you charge your client per month for this service?
#charge #local #seo
  • Profile picture of the author J R Salem
    It is not what you charge, but how you present it and how professional your business dealings are.

    We could both sell the same service, you for $99 and me for $999, but I may land it if I present it more professionally and sell the value of it.

    In short, price it based on what you want to make, just make sure you can back that up.
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    • Profile picture of the author maverick8
      Originally Posted by J R Salem View Post

      It is not what you charge, but how you present it and how professional your business dealings are.

      We could both sell the same service, you for $99 and me for $999, but I may land it if I present it more professionally and sell the value of it.

      In short, price it based on what you want to make, just make sure you can back that up.
      Another pointles warrior post IMO sorry. You have pretty much said how long is a piece of string. by saying you could charge $99 to $999.

      In reference to the OP. I charge no less than $450 for small biz SEO, google places. I bundle them because that is what i believe is best for the client. But i usually charge on what it takes to beat the comp plus what i want to profit. And then tack on anything i think i can make extra
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      • Profile picture of the author abbot
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        Originally Posted by maverick8 View Post

        Another pointles post IMO sorry. You have pretty much said how long is a piece of string. You have said you could $99 or $999.

        In reference to the OP. I charge no less than $450 for small biz SEO, google places. I bundle them because that is what i believe is best for the client. But i usually charge on what it takes to beat the comp plus what i want to profit. And then tack on anything i think i can make extra
        Thats because you're selling your service as a commodity, he's selling his service based on value to the the business.

        Realistically, his method is what works. A prospect with a larger budget looking to move some serious traffic would laugh at your $450 proposal.

        He would instantly take the sale by breaking down the value of his service to the company.

        I'm not saying you're wrong for your ways by any means. I am defending his post (seeing as you said his post was "worthless"). It's all how you want to run YOUR BUSINESS.

        Moral of the story; you'll never land a 5k/mo client selling in commodities... If that doesn't matter to you,feel free to sell in commodities.
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        • Profile picture of the author maverick8
          Originally Posted by abbot View Post

          Thats because you're selling your service as a commodity, he's selling his service based on value to the the business.

          Realistically, his method is what works. A prospect with a larger budget looking to move some serious traffic would laugh at your $450 proposal.

          He would instantly take the sale by breaking down the value of his service to the company.

          I'm not saying you're wrong for your ways by any means. I am defending his post (seeing as you said his post was "worthless"). It's all how you want to run YOUR BUSINESS.

          Moral of the story; you'll never land a 5k/mo client selling in commodities... If that doesn't matter to you,feel free to sell in commodities.
          Granted i agree with what you say. I haven't communicated myself that accurately.

          I very much agree with your last sentence. I have 4 clients paying over 5k, but they only come on board this year. Changed mentality the answer.
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        • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
          Originally Posted by abbot View Post

          Moral of the story; you'll never land a 5k/mo client selling in commodities... If that doesn't matter to you,feel free to sell in commodities.
          Let me add another moral to this story. $5k/mo commodities exist. Just because it is a commodity doesn't mean it has to be cheap.

          People on this board seem to think that commodity and fixed price means cheap.

          You can be expensive and be that. You can also sell cheap customized solutions. They are not linked.

          Think about it this way. If I can create a package that I can train people to sell for $10,000 why on earth would I want to spend more time and money customizing $10k level packages?

          Which is going to make me more money the "commodity" or the custom solution?

          If you don't believe me think to yourself..... how come sales trainers offer online prepackaged training, DVDs, CDS, and books if customized is the way to more profit? If customized is the way to go why don't they spend all their time live and in person offering customized solutions?
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      • Profile picture of the author J R Salem
        Originally Posted by maverick8 View Post

        But i usually charge on what it takes to beat the comp plus what i want to profit. And then tack on anything i think i can make extra
        So you basically replied with the same answer I did, just worded differently.

        You charge what it takes to beat the competition and what you want to profit, and then tack on anything extra.

        I also charge what it takes to beat the competition (based on the value I provide, not pricing), what I want to profit and then tack on anything else based on other benefits and values I am providing.

        The mistake many make (maybe not you) is that they sell a product. No one wants a product.

        You need so sell a solution to a problem, and depending on how valuable you can position that solution is what determines what you can or want to charge.
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  • Profile picture of the author payoman
    Originally Posted by lirikh View Post

    Hello,

    I am wondering what's the average going rate for local seo services. For example: google places listing + 30 citations per month --> how much would you charge your client per month for this service?
    Depends alot on the clients business type and size.

    In my experience, low-ticket businesses and solo contractors like electricians, plumbers etc will pay around $200-$300 a month.

    Business sizes from 3-5 (or who sell expensive, big ticket items) are happier to pay around $500 per month.

    That's the extent of my experience, of course I could be undercharging, but to be honest, my competitors in my town charge like $50 a month and when I mention my prices their reaction is typically "people are happy to pay that?"

    It's different with every client, so it's hard to nail down.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
    I've seen ranges from $20 a month to $10,000+ a month.

    If you want to charge higher fees (which any intelligent
    person would) you need to do two things well:

    1. Establish the potential dollar value of your service with
    your prospects. This is a process you can learn and it works
    better if you go through your SEO strategies step by step
    and get your prospect to estimate what response you'll get
    at each step then drop the figures he gives you down so you
    look like you're being conservative.

    2. Deliver value way over the fees you charge. That's more of
    a personal committment. Remember you can keep doing more
    until your clients are getting results.


    As a guideline for what you might charge...think through how
    much money you need to make in a month and look at your
    setup fee for a single project being somewhere in that range.

    If you only need one good client a month to make money then
    your life is going to be a lot easier.


    Another option when most of your fees are ongoing fees is to
    divide the amount you need to make a month by 4 and charge
    that per month for ongoing fees.

    If you only need 4 good clients total to make your monthly income
    again you're not going to be under so much pressure to hustle
    to find clients and you can invest a whole lot more time in making
    sure the clients you have are getting some nice results.

    Kindest regards,
    Andrew Cavanagh
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  • Profile picture of the author jiantastic
    If you're starting getting $200 means the world to you, but eventually you'll get tired of it.

    I now have a rule to only do minimum of $2,500 a month and up.
    It depends on who you go after so the more you know about your target the better your chances of getting nicer deals.
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  • Profile picture of the author MouseandMice
    If you are actually effective at SEO, your price is limited only by how many clients your client can accept and what the price point is.

    The plumbers offering you $300/mo are swindling you, if, and only if, you actually know SEO.

    Why? Because one client for a plumber might bring them in $300. If it is an emergency service (where the client NEEDS the service and is basing their choice off who is first and has the most professional looking website, essentially), it can go up to $1000 to $2000, not including potential financing costs.

    So, again,if you actually know SEO and are able to do SEO effectively (instead of doing the BS "Well, Mr. XYZ, nothing is guaranteed but what I can promise you is X links PER MONTH!" and then just trying to get as many months in until you get fired), then $300 per month is laughably low.

    Don't sell yourself short.

    And, remember, you might not need marketing and sales skills and a shark's mindset when you do affiliate sales, etc. online, but you most definitely need it when you are selling face to face and figuring out pricing.
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  • Profile picture of the author stone2010
    Some of the answers here are funny... "I'll charge whatever I want to make for profit" so if you want to make $5000 profit you will just charge that despite what you offer? LOL Anyways, my local clients I don't charge them less than $800 per month. A lot of depends on how many keywords we go after and what is included. I try to put together a package on what the client needs and will help them the most not just something standard.
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    • Profile picture of the author MouseandMice
      Originally Posted by stone2010 View Post

      Some of the answers here are funny... "I'll charge whatever I want to make for profit" so if you want to make $5000 profit you will just charge that despite what you offer? LOL Anyways, my local clients I don't charge them less than $800 per month. A lot of depends on how many keywords we go after and what is included. I try to put together a package on what the client needs and will help them the most not just something standard.
      This is the mindset you need.
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  • Profile picture of the author webwizdevelop
    Price is really depends on the keywords and business type of the client. I would say more competitve keywords will give you higher money compare to lesser one
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    As always pricing should be based on what you are worth as the minimum. With things like SEO that could have greater value for the client you may want to consider pricing based on what you could do for them.

    Though I advocate packages and standards if you are a single person business to stand out in this crowd you likely will want to customize. Or you can have packages and after talking to the customer say I feel the best fit for your needs would be our silver package....blah...blah....blah. But just presenting packages will not work. You have to sell custom of sell into the packages as if they were custom.

    So with that said how do you price based on what you are worth?

    First you need to figure out what you are worth per hour. To do that consider the following.
    • Skill Level: Are you entry level, average, or a rock star?
    • Industry Standards: For professional web based services you are looking at $100 to $200/hr
    • Billable Hours: What percentage of your time is billable (I mean the term as in working on a customer project not that you will be charging per hour to the customer) I tell people who are unsure to estimate 1/3rd to 1/5th as a starting point. So in a 40 hour week figure you will only spend like 10 hours on actually work you are being paid for.
    • Taxes & Expenses: Remember $50 an hour often can translate into basically a minimum wage job if you are not careful. So what sounds like a big amount isn't when you are the business.
    Second figure out how long it will take to do and add a 20-25% flub factor. So a 4hr job becomes 5hrs for the math.

    Third you just take your estimated time by your worth and that is your minimum price or even what you will charge.

    So let's say you are lower average so use $100/hr. You are selling an SEO package that will take you 8hrs to implement. You make that 10hrs with the flub factor and get a price of $1,000.

    There are only two things you price should ever be based on and I stress this. And that is what you are worth (as at minimum) and what the service is worth to your client.

    Myself I am a believer in pricing most of your services based on what you are worth so pricing is consistent from client to client and those who can't afford you then are referred to lower priced providers who you trust and who pay you a commission. Than for bigger projects on your higher end you use a value based on what it is worth to them.

    And if you are worth $10,000/hr or more charge that. But remember you can't sell a $299 service for $5,000 and expect satisfied clients. You will never get repeats and referrals. Nor can you price and sell a $299 service but treat it like it is a $999 service. You will not make enough money to be worth your time.

    In closing know your worth and charge accordingly.
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  • Profile picture of the author IM nice guy
    I am very flexible with my SEO pricing.

    I charge either:

    £35
    £75
    £150

    per month, per keyword.

    I decide what level the keyword is, and how much it's worth. Based on traffic, competition and revenue potential.

    Most keywords I do for clients will either come under £150 or £75 per month.

    I setup a signed legal contract for min 3 months, and most often 6 months.

    This works well for me.
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