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Building Offline Email List, Then Aweber?

by Adam G. Katz
19 replies
Hi, Gang:

If I have a local store collect email addresses from it's walk-in customers... what's the best way to add them to a newsletter like aweber?

My understanding is that aweber and similar services require double opt-in?

How are y'all getting around this?
#aweber #building #email #list #offline
  • Profile picture of the author internetmarketer1
    Creating a mobile website for them to opt into is what most people do
    WillR teaches about this in that FREE WSO of his. To my understanding, I don't think that Aweber requires double opt in. Only the free autoresponders do.

    Also, just remember, that to get people signing up on the spot is to have them sign up on their phone to get an instant discount right away. This makes them sign up right away without having to make them leave thinking, did they sign up?
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  • Profile picture of the author bob ross
    Get a stack of little flyers (the size of event tickets) printed and promote a 20% off coupon delivered when they sign up for your newsletter. This gives them a reason to double optin on their own.

    Aweber makes sending fancy looking coupons easy, so you can have it arrive in their email as soon as they confirm the optin.

    Because you'll need them to take an action on their own, you should be enticing them with as strong of an offer as possible. Don't try something like 10% off.

    I believe that you can also manually add users in aweber (which you would have collected emails for) and it will send the confirmation emails to them, so if they're expecting it they're probably likely to confirm it.

    If you do have the flyers printed, like I said earlier, get them printed like event tickets (most online printers will have them available) and get it on thick glossy cardstock so that they 'feel' the value in taking that action to get on your list and get that coupon.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by internetmarketer1 View Post

      Creating a mobile website for them to opt into is what most people do
      WillR teaches about this in that FREE WSO of his. To my understanding, I don't think that Aweber requires double opt in. Only the free autoresponders do.
      In my opinion, AWeber is one of the worst out there, and they do require double opt in because 99% of the people that use it are internet marketers. Best bet is to go with a service that has mostly offline businesses, like icontact, constant contact, contactology, etc. A brick and mortar location usually doesn't get up to the thousands for email opt ins, so you could also run a newsletter plugin or phplist on your server but deliverability would probably be a bit lower.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jonwebb
        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        In my opinion, AWeber is one of the worst out there, and they do require double opt in because 99% of the people that use it are internet marketers. Best bet is to go with a service that has mostly offline businesses, like icontact, constant contact, contactology, etc. A brick and mortar location usually doesn't get up to the thousands for email opt ins, so you could also run a newsletter plugin or phplist on your server but deliverability would probably be a bit lower.
        I use awebber and you dont have to use double opt in. They make it seem like they require it but you can turn it off
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        • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
          Originally Posted by Jonwebb View Post

          I use awebber and you dont have to use double opt in. They make it seem like they require it but you can turn it off
          Even if you turn it off, they still have to confirm..
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          • Profile picture of the author TheCG
            Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

            Even if you turn it off, they still have to confirm..
            Nope...they don't.
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            • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
              Originally Posted by TheCG View Post

              Nope...they don't.
              Please show me how this is done then because for 2 years now they have required confirmation when you import a list. If there is some secret I'm not aware of please do share. I have accounts at nearly every email marketing company and Aweber is the least friendly when it comes to importing a harvested list.

              Source : https://help.aweber.com/entries/2165...f-Subscribers-

              Even the help doc says they have to confirm.
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              • Profile picture of the author mjbmedia
                Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

                Please show me how this is done then because for 2 years now they have required confirmation when you import a list. If there is some secret I'm not aware of please do share. I have accounts at nearly every email marketing company and Aweber is the least friendly when it comes to importing a harvested list.

                Source : https://help.aweber.com/entries/2165...f-Subscribers-

                Even the help doc says they have to confirm.
                Agree with you there, this is why they were always whitelisted by 99.9% of the ISPs or whatever they're called and could state they had the best deliverability amongst the major email software out there, certainly a few years ago anyway.
                Be interested to see what those people saying yes they do etc come back with on this, I think its a case of misreading the post content
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              • Profile picture of the author TheCG
                Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

                Please show me how this is done then because for 2 years now they have required confirmation when you import a list. If there is some secret I'm not aware of please do share. I have accounts at nearly every email marketing company and Aweber is the least friendly when it comes to importing a harvested list.

                Source : https://help.aweber.com/entries/2165...f-Subscribers-

                Even the help doc says they have to confirm.

                Sorry...my mistake.

                I thought we were talking about when you set up a list, not importing one.
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          • Profile picture of the author jsmm
            Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

            Even if you turn it off, they still have to confirm..
            I believe he is right!
            They send out another email to your contacts that you add like that to opt in again!
            That is why you do not use AWeber if you are imputing email address .

            They are the best if you build your list with them threw their forms .
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      • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        In my opinion, AWeber is one of the worst out there, and they do require double opt in because 99% of the people that use it are internet marketers. Best bet is to go with a service that has mostly offline businesses, like icontact, constant contact, contactology, etc. A brick and mortar location usually doesn't get up to the thousands for email opt ins, so you could also run a newsletter plugin or phplist on your server but deliverability would probably be a bit lower.
        You can have very high delivery with a service like Amazon SES, Mailjet, or Sendgrid.

        I run arpReach with Amazon. Unlimited lists. Almost 100 % delivery. And I make the rules. I cancelled all the other services. Don't need them.

        I asked aweber about doing an in store promo. They told me double opt in would turn on automatically once many submissions come from the same IP.

        That's when I found my own solution.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by bob ross View Post

      I believe that you can also manually add users in aweber (which you would have collected emails for) and it will send the confirmation emails to them, so if they're expecting it they're probably likely to confirm it.
      That's the problem, people that go into a store are only 25% likely to confirm and that is if you send the confirmation within 24 hours.
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  • Profile picture of the author pingsters
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    You can upload your own list to aweber. Double opt-in is't a requirement.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brenda Trott
    If they have already completed a form, they may recognize the initial email. Even if it is a double opt-in you could edit your confirmation email to include the special offer you have for them once they confirm. "Open this for your free appetizer."
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  • Profile picture of the author helisell
    [TheCG]......[iamnameless] is correct

    You CAN turn off double opt-in with Aweber but NOT
    if you are importing or adding in subscribers yourself.

    They will always have to confirm using these methods.

    Can you imagine what would happen if you were just able
    to add in any old email address and bombard folks.

    Now THAT WOULD be the 'death of email marketing' ;0)

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  • Profile picture of the author amcg
    Originally Posted by Adam G. Katz View Post

    Hi, Gang:

    If I have a local store collect email addresses from it's walk-in customers... what's the best way to add them to a newsletter like aweber?

    My understanding is that aweber and similar services require double opt-in?

    How are y'all getting around this?
    Mailchimp for example give you a short url - that's something you can print or write on physical materials.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
    I have clients who've had enormous success using Aweber
    and yes you can do single optin.

    You may seriously consider doing double optin anyway if your
    list is likely to have a high percentage of prospects rather than
    paying customers (legally you're pretty safe with double optin).

    The advantage of Aweber is their high delivery rate.


    Probably the easiest way to get people on a list these days is
    with a QR code on a poster, on anything at point of sale, on
    leaflets in the window etc etc (you can also have the URL for
    the optin page too).

    They scan the QR code with their phone and they can sign
    up with their phone.

    Other options include putting a URL on every cash register
    receipt.

    Having a computer in the store people can sign up with (which
    is fine if you're not getting too many sign ups a day...say less
    than 10 or 15...Aweber has a limit to the number of sign ups
    it will allow from the same computer at the same location).

    And staff entering them manually which you really want to avoid
    if you can. Too many keying errors, too many errors in writing down
    the email addresses and often they're not legible too which can
    create all kinds of problems.

    Kindest regards,
    Andrew Cavanagh
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  • Profile picture of the author SiteSmarty
    I've set this up for a couple of businesses.

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    • Profile picture of the author 9999
      Interesting thread, I didn't know that you can turn off the double opt-in.
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