The whole reason I got into this business...

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Was to have a relaxed lifestyle. You know, have just enough clients so that I have a handsome income and minimum headache!

I like to recreate and shop for the kids during the week when everyone else is working. It is so much quieter during the week around here, I get it done twice as fast.

Do I want a full on schedule? hell no, nor do I want to take a look at my calender and see no space.

See, there have been lots said lately about giving it all, full on prospecting, sales calls, sales meetings, pounding pavements, working flat out, getting in 8 hours of work before noon. That is all a little too "corporate" for me.

How about a different angle, one where the lifestyle is of space and time, time to spend with family, help out others, focus on personal projects, and maybe swim upstream for a while.

This business we are in allows it for me, and anyone else who wants it, and its a beautiful thing.

Or I'm just lazy
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  • Profile picture of the author ContentWritingPhD
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    The greatest benefit of the type of work we have is we can be our own boss. We can manage our own time for our work and for other things. The disadvantage I have noticed though is that I can no longer distinguish my office and my home which is why I prefer to go out to spend quality time with my family.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
    I agree with what you're saying 100% in your post.

    The great thing about this business is that you can
    build the kind of life and lifestyle you want.

    It's vitally important that you have a really strong
    idea of what kind of money you want to make and
    how many hours you want to work to make it so
    you can target in on that over time.

    For some people that will be working one day a
    week or a couple of hours a day and for others that
    will be going gung-ho working 80+ hour weeks.

    But whatever you do make sure you CHOOSE the
    lifestyle you want and work towards it instead of
    having a business you didn't design imposing a lifestyle
    you don't want on you.

    Kindest regards,
    Andrew Cavanagh
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Take this from someone who started a marketing and communication atelier in 2004: you need to work your socks off if you want to make it. Economy is bad, competition is huge (even awful competition...) and no one wants to invest. I work maybe 10/14 hours per day (including travel, meetings and late nigh phone calls) and I have my own team to do production for me. I rarely design/code/copywrite these days - don't have time for that.

    Basically I work more then in previous years, but income is way better too.
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    • Profile picture of the author trader909
      Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

      Take this from someone who started a marketing and communication atelier in 2004: you need to work your socks off if you want to make it. Economy is bad, competition is huge (even awful competition...) and no one wants to invest. I work maybe 10/14 hours per day (including travel, meetings and late nigh phone calls) and I have my own team to do production for me. I rarely design/code/copywrite these days - don't have time for that.

      Basically I work more then in previous years, but income is way better too.
      yep in business it' the number one overlooked point "competition" Everywhere is so crowded these days.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

      Take this from someone who started a marketing and communication atelier in 2004: you need to work your socks off if you want to make it. Economy is bad, competition is huge (even awful competition...) and no one wants to invest. I work maybe 10/14 hours per day (including travel, meetings and late nigh phone calls) and I have my own team to do production for me.
      Some people may be happy where they are, and I call them victims of mediocrity. Some people want to get into this because they believe they will have time freedom, personal freedom, financial freedom, whatever. When it comes to building a business, very few really get it.

      Some people want to be comfortable. Some want to work while they travel, maybe a 10 hour work week or whatever. That's fine... but it isn't building a substantial business that you can exit usually.

      I want the world... I have no problem working however much I need to in order to get what I want. If you already have what you want, and don't have new goals set, good for you. However, whenever I meet a goal, I add 10 new goals.
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  • Profile picture of the author trader909
    doing ???

    For some people that will be working one day a
    week or a couple of hours a day
    o.p i agree. Some people think quitting the job and cold calling 10 hours+ day is a good change.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    A few things.

    1. To build a 4 Hour Work Week you have to build a business. I think at times people gloss over the story Tim tells and skip to the "quit working, make money phase".

    2. If you are providing a service. And most here are. There are steps you can and should take to maximize your per hour rate. But you have to provide value that justifies the price.

    There is a happy medium between "lowest price ever, not making minimum wage after taxes" and "charge $5,000 and out source it on fiverr". Sadly the two extremes are what people seem to gravitate towards here.

    1000% markup isn't likely to happen.
    And being the cheapest won't help you get more clients.

    You need to price your services like a real professional.

    3. Once you have income coming in the choice is yours how much to work.

    If you can make $30k a year working 5 hours a week on average would you be happy? Or would you rather work 40 hrs a week to make $120k? And if you work more and thus make more will it be easier to hire people? And if you hire the right people could you make more and work less?

    There is a thought process you need to go through.

    Because if you live in the US and are satisfied with playing video games and barely working there are easier ways to do it. You shouldn't be an entrepreneur you should go on welfare.

    I grew up on welfare. I know people currently on welfare. It's a really great life if you value freedom of time above all else.

    The reason you want to make money is to give you freedom of purchase. So you have to find the right amount and the right amount of time.

    But even Tim Ferriss doesn't work 4 Hours a Week. Why? Because he wants more. You can maximize how much you make per hours but if you work too little you risk not being able to make that per hour rate grow.
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  • Profile picture of the author RentItNow
    My uncle recently told me this zinger about starting a new business in his late 50s... "I come from a generation that does not mind working hard for my money so I will work hard for it".

    I asked him, didn't you want to set it up so you are making passive income so you can work on things you enjoy or spend more time with your kids and soon grandkids. He said, "No, I know you are into doing that yourself but does it ever really work? I mean, really?"

    My answer was I had another record breaking mostly passive income month on top every other month this year. Took me about 5 hours to make what it used to take me 60 hours to do and will take even less time as we move forward. Not sure the point of his question and like most of the rest of my family, just doesnt get you can build a pipeline or carry buckets of water the rest of your life.

    I for one am enjoying this!
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    I have no agenda but to help those in the same situation. This I feel will pay the bills.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    John thanks for sharing both the right outlook and an example of how it works in real life. And I have people I know who own businesses and don't get it. They work harder then they have to just to avoid hiring someone to do it. They never see how their own "work ethic" is holding back their company's growth.
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  • Profile picture of the author trader909
    the problem with o.p thinking...is you think your businss/niche will last forever...it won't. It'll die off one day and then what?

    If something is going well you have to scale the hell out of it a fast as you can make as much money whilst the going is good.

    Rather work your but off...sell a business for $5m+..Then retire/semi retire for ever than try to make $50k for the rest of your life.i.m.h.o.

    One thing i have learned in business is it doesn't stand still.
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    • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
      Originally Posted by trader909 View Post

      the problem with o.p thinking...is you think your businss/niche will last forever...it won't. It'll die off one day and then what?

      If something is going well you have to scale the hell out of it a fast as you can make as much money whilst the going is good.

      Rather work your but off...sell a business for $5m+..Then retire/semi retire for ever than try to make $50k for the rest of your life.i.m.h.o.

      One thing i have learned in business is it doesn't stand still.
      A few things.

      1. If you are making $50k a year from a business it will not sell for $5 million unless there is value beyond the profit. And then you have to bet rather it is better to turn down the money and ride it out in hopes of the big payoff. Facebook and Google turned into those big pay days. While others like Friendster and Groupon should have been sold. But it's hard to know which is the correct choice.

      2. If someone wants to make $50k a year there are much better ways to do it than to be a business owner. Of course if $50k/yr goes up faster then inflation and requires no work or almost no work it might be worth it.

      3. You should always scale but if you grow too fast you risk losing it all. And a properly built company can be strong for decades if not centuries. They can evolve their product offerings as time goes on. So why throw the machine away? Why not use the size and scale of the machine to expand into new offerings?

      The point is there isn't hard and fast answers on how one should run and plan their business. For some keeping the business long term makes sense while others should exit on the first large exit that comes their way.

      But the truly rich seem to have bought and kept businesses for the long term. And anyone looking to maximize their wealth should take what the richest people do an emulate it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bear Trader
    Originally Posted by susie haynes View Post

    Was to have a relaxed lifestyle. You know, have just enough clients so that I have a handsome income and minimum headache!

    I like to recreate and shop for the kids during the week when everyone else is working. It is so much quieter during the week around here, I get it done twice as fast.

    Do I want a full on schedule? hell no, nor do I want to take a look at my calender and see no space.

    See, there have been lots said lately about giving it all, full on prospecting, sales calls, sales meetings, pounding pavements, working flat out, getting in 8 hours of work before noon. That is all a little too "corporate" for me.

    How about a different angle, one where the lifestyle is of space and time, time to spend with family, help out others, focus on personal projects, and maybe swim upstream for a while.

    This business we are in allows it for me, and anyone else who wants it, and its a beautiful thing.

    Or I'm just lazy


    No you are not lazy. You are enjoying life and doing other stuff. You are a minority here. I hope to be like you next year. Life is too short.
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