Time For A Pointless Rant - Don't Bother To Read

by DABK
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So, I have a new client. We've started to get people to call. And the client isn't answering. During business hours too! (To all business owners: if you're open between 9-5 during the day, 11:04 AM is business hours!)

Yesterday, there were 3 missed calls. I sent the owner an email, with the phone numbers. Owner shoots back that he called back the 1st number on my list. They were looking for a service he does not provide.

Missed the point of answering phones in a timely and professional manner, having professional answering machine/system message, and the other 2 missed phone calls.

Or the fact that, if you miss half the phone calls, the cost of a sale goes up like crazy.

Okay. I'm done now.
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  • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
    Originally Posted by DABK View Post

    So, I have a new client. We've started to get people to call. And the client isn't answering. During business hours too! (To all business owners: if you're open between 9-5 during the day, 11:04 AM is business hours!)

    Yesterday, there were 3 missed calls. I sent the owner an email, with the phone numbers. Owner shoots back that he called back the 1st number on my list. They were looking for a service he does not provide.

    Missed the point of answering phones in a timely and professional manner, having professional answering machine/system message, and the other 2 missed phone calls.

    Or the fact that, if you miss half the phone calls, the cost of a sale goes up like crazy.

    Okay. I'm done now.
    Are you selling him leads and getting paid based on sales?

    bad mojo.

    If not, why sweat it? Not your prob.

    If so ... "life lesson".
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      No, I'm not selling him leads. But he is still paying for marketing. I'm doing several things, from reworking the content on his site to SEO to bing words, to blogging.

      Experience tells me that he's not going to be happy with me even though I'm doing what I promised. He won't be able to ask for his money back, sue me and win, tell people I did a bad job and me not have a reply to that. But he'll be able to not buy from me.

      Odds are, like another former client, he'll find another marketer. Not answer when leads call. Lose them. Blame the marketer. Then go look for another marketer.

      While he does that, it's still stupid and pointless to pay for marketing and not answer the phone.

      By the way. I got him to get a brand new phone and number, so he knows it's a lead calling and can only be a lead.

      If I sold leads, and they did not answer, my position would be the same.

      I.e., it's stupid to buy marketing and not answer when the leads call.

      Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

      Are you selling him leads and getting paid based on sales?

      bad mojo.

      If not, why sweat it? Not your prob.

      If so ... "life lesson".
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  • Profile picture of the author TheCG
    Haha...had a client that I sold leads to that stopped answering his phone...he was letting them go to his voicemail and then calling them back. Guess he thought if he didn't answer he wouldn't have to pay.

    When I sent him his bill for one month his reply was, "no way in hell I got that many calls. I am smarter than you think so I write down all the calls I get from you and there is no way I got all you claim."

    How anyone can try to refute printed call logs and actual recordings is beyond me but he did.

    Yes, I did have a contract with him that spelled out how things work.

    Some people are so short sighted.
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      I save the recordings, the log, for the very same reason: some people aren't all that (supply own adjective).

      Originally Posted by TheCG View Post

      Haha...had a client that I sold leads to that stopped answering his phone...he was letting them go to his voicemail and then calling them back. Guess he thought if he didn't answer he wouldn't have to pay.

      When I sent him his bill for one month his reply was, "no way in hell I got that many calls. I am smarter than you think so I write down all the calls I get from you and there is no way I got all you claim."

      How anyone can try to refute printed call logs and actual recordings is beyond me but he did.

      Yes, I did have a contract with him that spelled out how things work.

      Some people are so short sighted.
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  • Profile picture of the author misterme
    DABK, Maybe it's like what TheCG experienced, some people are going to try to not pay you and think letting it go to voicemail will do the trick?

    That or since the reason he hired your services was because he was in need of help to get business, now you know one of the reasons why.
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      Well, it's not working; they're not leaving messages. One reason? Besides the fact that I sent him a recording of me calling, letting it go to voicemail, only to be met with: Please leave a message for.... 15 seconds blank time, beep.

      Originally Posted by misterme View Post

      DABK, Maybe it's like what TheCG experienced, some people are going to try to not pay you and think letting it go to voicemail will do the trick?

      That or since the reason he hired your services was because he was in need of help to get business, now you know one of the reasons why.
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  • Profile picture of the author ronrule
    Give the client some time - he may not have been prepared for or expecting the results.

    If the problem persists, drop him ... doesn't matter whether he's paying you or not. YOUR reputation depends on your customer's ability to close the leads you provide. If you're giving him business and he's dropping the ball, you won't ever get a testimonial out of him. The leads you're sending him would be better off going to another firm who will actually take care of the customer.

    In fact now that I think about it ... that's a heck of a hook for lining up the replacement customer. You could find another firm that does what he does, call them and explain the situation, and ask if they want the leads instead.
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      Already thought of that. I guess great minds think alike, huh?

      Originally Posted by ronrule View Post

      Give the client some time - he may not have been prepared for or expecting the results.



      In fact now that I think about it ... that's a heck of a hook for lining up the replacement customer. You could find another firm that does what he does, call them and explain the situation, and ask if they want the leads instead.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Hey, I've worked for Inc. Top 1000 firms that don't answer their phones.

    "First In Wins"

    If you can answer when your prospect calls, you have a much higher chance of getting the order. If you don't, odds are they'll never call you back. And by the time you call them, if you do, they'll have found someone else.
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  • Here's an idea.

    Create a white paper about the effect poor phone management has on revenues and use it as one of the first hooks in your marketing funnel. This will get the clients thinking about the issue and the possibilities, and you can hit on this again by initiating a "phone discussion" before you start your campaigns, reiterating to the client the role this issue will play in the results of your efforts - or more specifically, in their profit generation.

    Be sure to deliver this white paper to all of your existing clients as well, bringing them up to speed while emphasizing the ongoing value you deliver. And of course, if white papers aren't your thing, you can communicate this in other formats.

    The problem here is that the clients need to be educated. They are not just leaving money on the table with the things you've been doing for them - they've been losing money because of bad phone management all along...

    By waking them up to the issue, you can add to their bottom line instantly, creating a big opportunity for building credibility, closing deals, and landing the type of clients that you want.
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  • Profile picture of the author mjbmedia
    I can't comment cos I didn't bother reading the post!
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    I agree with what you are saying and don't have hardly any
    information to go with, but I wonder if you might be inadvertently
    putting out a negative attitude towards him that might lead things
    to becoming unnecessarily adversarial and self-fulfilling. Not doing
    his job of answering phones, anticipating that this won't end well...

    What's he like when you consult with him by phone or in person
    (coming across as the family marketing doctor) instead of contact
    via email?

    Trying to help here anyway. All for dropping true PITA clients.

    Dan
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