Getting to the owner by phone....

No. You are mistaken. I'm only interested in readers making more money. That is my sole purpose for being here. And if disagreeing with you is part of that, so be it.


Think about what you just said. I responded to exactly what you said. It's impossible to respond to what you left out.


First; I can only go by what you say. I literally pasted your comment as is and commented on it.

You just said;
"but there is a different between tenacity and stupidity, making the same process over and over for 5 years without results is insane, I never understood how so many people think it is just a matter of try harder or push forward or just try it longer when there are better methods."

How can anyone disagree with that? I wouldn't. I don't think Jason would.

What you are talking about is one of the biggest myths about selling,and it applies very much to cold calling. It isn't a matter of trying harder. If you make 100 calls and they all fail, you are trying exactly as hard as the guy that makes 100 calls and gets 2 sales...or 5 sales..or 20 appointments.

It isn't a mater of doing the wrong thing more often. It's all about not making the same mistakes over and over again.

I would never (assuming you gave it any effort) tell you to "try harder". What kind of advice is that? How does that make you more productive? It doesn't.


You are absolutely right about there being better methods. And some of those methods (but not all) are about how to cold call well. Not harder, better.

You used to cold call and got terrible results? The person who trained you committed fraud. Why are the morons doing the sales training?

Now, I get you, I think. I've heard the same thing about direct mail and other sorts of advertising. "I tried direct mail for a year, lost my shirt, and now I'm going back to what I know works..cold calling on the phone"...

I've heard exactly that several times. I've heard the same "It didn't work" about advertising, cold calling, canvasing, online marketing, content marketing, radio, infomercials, surveys....the list goes on. And I've heard your situation too.
You were taught the wrong way (there are thousands of wrong ways) to cold call. And so you hated it. So would I.

And since you tried marketing, and weren't taught the wrong way to do that...you succeeded.

But....Unless you have taken Jason Kanigan's training, (or similar real training) you are shooting in the dark. And of course you would hate cold calling.

And, like I said Before, Marketing is better, easier, more fun. But if you need a quick sale, cold calling the right way will get you that. Whenever I needed a quick sale, that's what I did.

Anyway, I think I understand you now. Can I give you a piece of advice? I'm only here to make you money...and make others money.

None of you are my market. I don't think I've made $100 off this membership in the last 3 years. This is my hobby.

My advice is to get a thinker skin. I gave it one more shot because I think I misunderstood some of what you were getting at.