Any tips for selling IM at a doctor's convention?

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Has anyone tried selling at IM at conventions? Any tips or advice? I'm doing my 1st convention tomorrow. I'll just be wallking the floor, no booth.

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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Yeah;

    I strike up quick mindless conversations like "Have you been to one of these before?" or "Could you tell me if you know anything about the next speaker?"

    I just walk up to the hundreds that are milling about at breaks..trying to look like they are enjoying themselves.

    When they ask what you do, say "I bring new patients to doctors that are already online" or something like that. In fact, have a card that says only that, and your name and phone.

    But don't hand them your card, get theirs.

    If they ask you anything about how you get them new patients, just say "Has a new patient ever said that they found you online?" They will say "Sure".

    "Would you like more of them?"..they say "Sure".

    "Then maybe we should talk. do you have a card?"

    And if there are only a few people around, during the break, just find a nice couple of chairs in the hallway, and talk to them there.

    All your mingling will be done during breaks, and in lines at lunch.

    Let them ask you what you do, don't volunteer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    OMG Claude I am literally LMAO here and everyone else is asleep,

    I came in to see what gold you laid upon this guy and I didn't expect that.

    On a not to be laughed at note I will add that people have tried selling IM at conventions and depending on the convention I expect anywhere from 10% to 80% of the booths to actually be people selling IM. I'm not a doctor nor have I been to such a convention so I can't be sure.

    At a dealer convention that number I would say would be about 50% to 80% if you count all the CRM and other solutions that add IM into the mix with their products somehow. Hell might even be 100% when you put it that way.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Aaron Doud View Post

      OMG Claude I am literally LMAO here and everyone else is asleep,

      I came in to see what gold you laid upon this guy and I didn't expect that.

      On a not to be laughed at note I will add that people have tried selling IM at conventions and depending on the convention I expect anywhere from 10% to 80% of the booths to actually be people selling IM. I'm not a doctor nor have I been to such a convention so I can't be sure.

      At a dealer convention that number I would say would be about 50% to 80% if you count all the CRM and other solutions that add IM into the mix with their products somehow. Hell might even be 100% when you put it that way.
      Aaron; It seems like this has been discussed before on another thread.

      I've never been to a doctor's convention. But they are still a bunch of guys wanting to make more money. Yeah, most booths will be internet marketing related.

      But what I've noticed is that many attendees don't go to any of the booths. Or if they do, it's to pick up a brochure or get a gift.

      It's the connection that matters. If they feel like they asked you about what you did...it's a lot more likely that you'll get a chance to talk to them about your service.

      And I'm going to say something that you already know.

      If you go to a convention where there are 1,000 good looking women...and you're looking to get lucky...it's the one that talks to you that you focus on. You tend to ignore the rest, they become just part of the backdrop. So the fact that most of the vendors sell what you sell, doesn't really matter. Unless the prospect talks to one after they talk to you.


      I'm curious....what about my post made you laugh? Be kind, I can get very defensive.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    Just the way you laid it out. It was just so simple but the way you said it I could just imagine it being said in a very dead pan manner to someone.

    And on the events I have been to over the years the booths are in many ways pointless. You merely grab the candy (always free candy) and talk to the vendors you already have or want to have a relationship with.

    Strangely when I have went I have never actually had anyone strike up a real conversation with me that could lead to selling. They all just hung out in their booths and honestly seemed afraid to talk to a prospect. Hell when I went to the digital dealer event I literally seemed to scare the ones I spoke to because I was asking questions about how their service could be used for RVs instead of Cars.

    Basically seemed like if you were not a lay down they didn't know what to do. From a selling and marketing standpoint it was sad. The booth caught the attention of a live prospect and the "sales" staff couldn't even handle simple conversations about their product.

    As for walking around vs. having a booth only one company I saw was doing that and that was Grant Cardone and his team. Joe Verde's company had a booth and the only reason I even know they did was because during one of Grant's "mini events" at someone else's booth he mentioned them (not by name but pointed to them).

    I highly suspect that Grant made more sales than they did and instead of buying a booth he simply gave one official presentation (educational not sales) and a few smaller unofficial ones. And he likely got paid to give these.

    The one mini-event I am speaking about is actually on youtube though I don't think the person filming ever caught me on video so sorry to those who wanted to see me live.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Aaron Doud View Post

      Strangely when I have went I have never actually had anyone strike up a real conversation with me that could lead to selling.


      As for walking around vs. having a booth only one company I saw was doing that and that was Grant Cardone and his team. Joe Verde's company had a booth and the only reason I even know they did was because during one of Grant's "mini events" at someone else's booth he mentioned them (not by name but pointed to them).

      I highly suspect that Grant made more sales than they did

      The one mini-event I am speaking about is actually on youtube though I don't think the person filming ever caught me on video so sorry to those who wanted to see me live.
      Grant Cardone was working small gatherings, because he was rather well known anyway. Very smart.

      I recently spoke for a group of dry cleaners, and they insisted that I get a free booth (they thought it was a bonus), and man it. What a monumental waste of time. As soon as the promoters walked away, I started working the other booths (the ones that spoke English, anyway) and talked to dry cleaners at the attached lunch area.

      Do you have a link to the Youtube video?


      Originally Posted by Aaron Doud View Post

      Just the way you laid it out. It was just so simple but the way you said it I could just imagine it being said in a very dead pan manner to someone.
      Yup. many people going to conferences are alone, and will never startup a conversation with anyone. Those are the people I talk to. I give them a chance to ask what I do, and move on. I don't think they really perceive that I'm working a crowd.

      I have a friend that sells services to marketers, and he goes to Dan Kennedy conventions for the sole purpose of working the attendees. Every 3 day event gives him a dozen or so new clients. I learned from him.

      But just walking up and saying "Hi, what do you do?" isn't as productive.

      I've only seen maybe 2 people effectively work these groups. My friend, and Simon Aronowitz (spelling is wrong, I'm sure).

      There is a guy that just goes to these events and gets hired on the spot by booth owners to draw a crowd. I've seen him speak at events. I've never seen anyone work a group like him. Joel Bauer is his name.
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      • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post


        There is a guy that just goes to these events and gets hired on the spot by booth owners to draw a crowd. I've seen him speak at events. I've never seen anyone work a group like him. Joel Bauer is his name.
        Interesting guy.

        Doesn't drive a car because he he hasn't a drivers licence.

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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by ewenmack View Post

          Interesting guy.

          Doesn't drive a car because he he hasn't a drivers licence.

          Best,
          Ewen
          Ewen; Yeah, I've never seen anyone capture attention like him. I've seen him close 80% of a room on an information package amounting to several thousand dollars. Of course, the cancellations are through the roof.

          Bill Glazer told me Baur was the only speaker ever banned from any Kennedy events because of his behavior. I watched a $10,000 coaching event he put on for speakers. There were some real big names attending too. Worst training ever. Three days of nothing. Smoke and mirrors. Great pitchman, terrible trainer.
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          • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            Ewen; Yeah, I've never seen anyone capture attention like him. I've seen him close 80% of a room on an information package amounting to several thousand dollars. Of course, the cancellations are through the roof.

            Bill Glazer told me Baur was the only speaker ever banned from any Kennedy events because of his behavior. I watched a $10,000 coaching event he put on for speakers. There were some real big names attending too. Worst training ever. Three days of nothing. Smoke and mirrors. Great pitchman, terrible trainer.
            I think we've had this conversation before,
            but good to refresh.

            Mal Emery, who is kinda Australia's version of Dan Kennedy,
            had him train his high end client stage pitchmen and women.

            Never seen him promoted down this part of the world again.

            Maybe that's why.

            Joe Polish has said he had the highest closing rate at a Kennedy event
            for his Gary Halbert info product.

            Of course this is in more recent times.

            Best,
            Ewen
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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by ewenmack View Post

              I think we've had this conversation before,
              but good to refresh.

              Mal Emery, who is kinda Australia's version of Dan Kennedy,
              had him train his high end client stage pitchmen and women.

              Never seen him promoted down this part of the world again.

              Maybe that's why.

              Joe Polish has said he had the highest closing rate at a Kennedy event
              for his Gary Halbert info product.


              Of course this is in more recent times.

              Best,
              Ewen
              I was there when Joe Polish sold a third of the room a $500 Gary Halbert set of CDs. That's a third of 1,000 attendees. He used video to introduce him and close the sale. There's a video on Youtube that I've studied of the whole speech.
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              • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                I was there when Joe Polish sold a third of the room a $500 Gary Halbert set of CDs. That's a third of 1,000 attendees. He used video to introduce him and close the sale. There's a video on Youtube that I've studied of the whole speech.
                Yeah I've seen that presentation.

                Somehow he padded that number being the highest then.

                Or...

                Maybe GK have scrubbed Baeur out of their records
                since that number didn't count because of the refund rates.

                Best,
                Ewen
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  • Profile picture of the author mjbmedia
    Most booths are 'staffed' by models/ eye candy not proper staff or knowledgeable people
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