Help - anybody have Ari gulper's live phone calling demonstrations?

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can't find any live (and real time cold calling) from him.

I heard that last year he was going to a Los Angeles, Ca, USA conference in which he was to perform real cold calls.

UPDATE: My Fault, it was 2010 not 2012

thanks for any input.

* Reference : his "Trust-Based" selling system and Unlock the Game

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  • Profile picture of the author bob ross
    I've never seen anyone do live calling in a product, I'd be interested though. I don't really want to link anything directly because of rules but you can look at my youtube channel where I do live calls as well as some of my cold callers if you want to see live calls in action.
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    • hey Bob, love your replys and your wso's.

      I will keep looking and post here.

      I know that event was scheduled and Ari was supposed to do it

      just went to Ari's website and sent an email :


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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by bob ross View Post

      I've never seen anyone do live calling in a product, I'd be interested though. I don't really want to link anything directly because of rules but you can look at my youtube channel where I do live calls as well as some of my cold callers if you want to see live calls in action.
      Bob; Could you PM your Youtube channel?

      You just reminded me that recorded cold calls, and recorded referral gathering would be something people would pay good money to listen to.

      Yeah, I wonder why more speakers and info marketers don't offer it?
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      • Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Bob; Could you PM your Youtube channel?

        You just reminded me that recorded cold calls, and recorded referral gathering would be something people would pay good money to listen to.

        Yeah, I wonder why more speakers and info marketers don't offer it?
        Fear of looking bad. and failing IMO
        and not marketing slick

        but I could be wrong or off base.

        I would like to see that too!
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  • Profile picture of the author bob ross
    Claude, I just added the icon to my profile on the left, I had been meaning to do that.

    My guess to why you don't see many people doing it live is because 1. privacy concerns, 2. scared they might not live up to their status.

    With as little 'tooting my own horn' as possible, I don't think it would be very entertaining to watch someone cold call unless they were aggressive, controlling, and persuasive, of which I tend to be. I've never read ari galpers stuff but if it's mushy or "move onto the next" type stuff I don't think it would be very entertaining to watch.

    The good stuff is where you take people who are giving you objection after objection, on the brink of hanging up with you and turn them into very interested people ready to do business with you by the end.

    The mushy 'keep calling and move on to the next until you find a laydown' type stuff is sold much easier in print and in theory than what it's like in real life when you're truly pushing for sales.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by bob ross View Post

      Claude, I just added the icon to my profile on the left, I had been meaning to do that.

      My guess to why you don't see many people doing it live is because 1. privacy concerns, 2. scared they might not live up to their status.
      Sure, even the best cold caller could easily make 30 calls without any real headway. Not very entertaining, and it sure wouldn't sell your "How to cold call package"

      Originally Posted by bob ross View Post

      I've never read ari galpers stuff but if it's mushy or "move onto the next" type stuff I don't think it would be very entertaining to watch.
      Galper's stuff is like David Sandler's stuff or High Probability Selling. It has a very no edges feel to it, but it works. About as well as anything, I guess. He really does sell, not just look for laydowns. There are hunters and trappers. You're a hunter. He's a trapper. I'm a born hunter who later, out of laziness, became a trapper.


      Originally Posted by bob ross View Post

      The good stuff is where you take people who are giving you objection after objection, on the brink of hanging up with you and turn them into very interested people ready to do business with you by the end.
      Yup, 20 minutes of rapid fire answering objections is like a symphony to me.
      And your Youtube videos are a HUGE contribution here. Thank you.

      Originally Posted by kirbymarketingconcierge View Post

      M Galper will go one step further and demonstrate his methods live at "Sales Breakthrough 2010" by calling audience members' client prospects on the spot, and, using his proven method and technique, attempting to open closed doors and establish sought-after relationships. This is a feat yet to be taken on by any other sales expert.
      Brilliant marketing, I must say. It hits several hot buttons of salespeople. I think I'll swipe it.

      By the way, his "using his proven method and technique, attempting to open closed doors and establish sought-after relationships." will be redefined at the event. It's far far easier to make calls to set a tentative appointment, than to get money in one call. I'm guessing that's what this is. Still a great idea. i once bet a co worker (when selling vacuum cleaners) that I could set an appointment in 3 calls. I set an appointment the first call. But it was sooo unqualified, I gave it to him. The ******* sold it.
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  • Bob Ross is a Warrior!

    put's himself out there IMO

    an online resource with audio recordings of Ari's advice here:
    (no affiliation, just found looking for Ari's live recordings)

    http://www.hardtofindseminars.com/salesbreakthrough.htm[/URL]
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      LOS ANGELES -- The world's #1 trust-based sales expert, Ari Galper, will be demonstrating his revolutionary Unlock The Game sales secrets before a live audience at "Sales Breakthrough 2010" on November 8 - 10, 2010, in Los Angeles, California. The groundbreaking event will demonstrate Galper's coveted secrets to sales success in the new economy as he takes on sales challenges never before attempted live and uncensored. "Sales Breakthrough 2010" promises to revolutionize the way entrepreneurs, sales professionals and business owners operate in both business and personal endeavors.

      The three-day transformational experience will introduce professionals from various industries to Galper's innovative approach to sales, which alleviates pressure by focusing on trust and productive dialogue. Galper will go one step further and demonstrate his methods live at "Sales Breakthrough 2010" by calling audience members' client prospects on the spot, and, using his proven method and technique, attempting to open closed doors and establish sought-after relationships. This is a feat yet to be taken on by any other sales expert.
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  • Profile picture of the author bob ross
    Hah, Claude I have a strict rule in my remodeling company that if you don't sell on the first night your busted lead is open territory for the other reps to close, is that common in the vaccuum sales industry as well?

    Nothing like seeing your fellow reps weasel in and seal the deal you wasted 3 hours of time with but couldn't close.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by bob ross View Post

      Hah, Claude I have a strict rule in my remodeling company that if you don't sell on the first night your busted lead is open territory for the other reps to close, is that common in the vaccuum sales industry as well?

      Nothing like seeing your fellow reps weasel in and seal the deal you wasted 3 hours of time with but couldn't close.
      It isn't common, because it requires ingenuity to realize the value of a non sold lead. In the vacuum cleaner biz, non sales are left alone forever. credit turn downs are thrown away. Nobody sells used versions of their vacuum.

      I used to let the new guys chase these "phantom deals" until it got through their thick skulls that it was meaningless. hey would just keep going back "How about now?"

      Then, and I don't remember how I figured this out, I realized that a lot of these missed deals were pretty close to buying....if I just gave them a different reason to buy now. Even complaints about the salesperson we sent, helped us sell these non buyers. I had several say "We'll buy from you, but don't send Curtis around again".

      So, I changed the rules to; "You get the first shot, and I'll do anything in my power to help you close it on the presentation. But if you fail, rather than let the lead just die forever, I send the sales manager, and if he closes it...you get $50".

      That idea made me a ton of money. My sales manager would close better than a third of the "No's". Some of them were virtually lay downs. Of course, it also made the reps (who were making more money for no effort) angry, because they assumed that we didn't want them to sell, so we could steal their deal....the deal that they didn't have.

      I'm throwing up in my mouth just thinking about it.

      They got a $50 "demonstration but couldn't close" fee if they wanted it. I eventually trained 2 guys, to take the non sales of other sales organizations (still the same vacuum cleaner)...and pay them $50 if we got a sale.

      I did the same thing with credit turn downs. The other distributors could keep the down payment, and I'd give them an extra $50...and I'd get them financed. It was a very lucrative side business.
      With used vacuums, we would call the non sale, and just tell them that I just got a used model that's like new (after we reconditioned them) for half price. Maybe 20% bought. I made as much profit on those as the original sales of new machines. (almost no cost, no commissions paid, usually cash or credit card. No effort but a phone call from me.) This would be my third attempt at a sale.

      First attempt, my rep. Maybe 20% average closing
      Second attempt, my sales manager with a slightly better offer. Maybe 40% of the remaining 80%
      Third attempt, a call from me with a used machine. Maybe 20% of the remaining 50%.Sometimes I wished I could tell the other distributors that we were closing 70% with those three attempts.
      And maybe half of their missed sales to boot.

      I also sold used machines to the unsold leads from 5 or 6 other distributors. I must admit, I'm getting a twinge of wanting to get back in that game. But new reps just eat my soul.
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  • Originally Posted by bob ross View Post

    some of my idiot cold callers (cold calling can be fun even when it's boring)
    Cold calling for dummies... by dummies - YouTube
    "Oh, you're retiring. Then wouldn't you want to go out with a blast and get a bunch of new customers?"
    "No, sir."

    I love these videos. Thanks for the share.
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      Originally Posted by KingOfContentMarketing View Post

      "Oh, you're retiring. Then wouldn't you want to go out with a blast and get a bunch of new customers?"
      "No, sir."

      I love these videos. Thanks for the share.
      Seriously, I wish people would have more fun cold calling and not be afraid to say whatever they want.
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      • great point Bob Ross.

        when I 1st saw the video I saw the comaraderie, and the downtime between calls as the way to stay engaged and Up.

        sure you say and do stupid things, who hasn't.
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      • Originally Posted by bob ross View Post

        Seriously, I wish people would have more fun cold calling and not be afraid to say whatever they want.
        Yeah, I don't know why people get so uptight about cold calling. One poster recently called it "disrespectful." Huh?

        I just talked to two people this week that acted like, "Where have you been all this time?," and placed orders right there.

        Now, it's true I am insanely charming on the phone , but if your service is solid, there are many, many, many people that need your help, and all you have to do is ask.
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        • Originally Posted by KingOfContentMarketing View Post

          Yeah, I don't know why people get so uptight about cold calling. One poster recently called it "disrespectful." Huh?

          I just talked to two people this week that acted like, "Where have you been all this time?," and placed orders right there.

          Now, it's true I am insanely charming on the phone , but if your service is solid, there are many, many, many people that need your help, and all you have to do is ask.
          I agree King.

          I like talking to people on the phone.

          the phone, the internet, the stagecoach just moved information.

          it's a negative stereotype IMO
          to label "those people" I hate, it dosen't work, etc..,

          Obama - the most powerful man around uses the phone.

          you think C-Level Executives jump on a plane or engage in pull marketing???
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          • Originally Posted by kirbymarketingconcierge View Post

            Obama - the most powerful man around uses the phone.

            you think C-Level Executives jump on a plane or engage in pull marketing???
            Years ago, I remember reading a book by Harold Geneen, who used to to run ITT. He was a huge workaholic. Somebody asked him, "If you don't attend social functions or play golf, how will you be able to develop relationships with powerful people that affect your company?"

            He said, "I pick up the phone and call them."
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          Originally Posted by KingOfContentMarketing View Post

          Yeah, I don't know why people get so uptight about cold calling. One poster recently called it "disrespectful." Huh?

          I just talked to two people this week that acted like, "Where have you been all this time?," and placed orders right there.

          Now, it's true I am insanely charming on the phone , but if your service is solid, there are many, many, many people that need your help, and all you have to do is ask.
          I start off one of my seminars by saying "In your town, today, there are between 10 and 100 people looking to buy exactly what you sell. Your job is to find them!"

          The biggest complaint I had when looking to buy life insurance...is that nobody would cold call me, despite being a pretty darn good prospect.

          for years...not a call. Finally, I was online one day filling out an application for a $1,000,000 policy. In the store walks a guy from New York Life Insurance Company.

          I walked up to him and he said "I'm with New York Life. Who do you have your life insurance with?"

          I said "YOU!". I think I scared him a little. It was the biggest sale he ever made, and generated several thousand dollars in commissions for him.

          Cold calling works. Some people want to buy what you sell, and you just hit them at the right time. Like digging for gold. Ignore the dirt, just count the gold.

          Originally Posted by KingOfContentMarketing View Post

          "Oh, you're retiring. Then wouldn't you want to go out with a blast and get a bunch of new customers?"
          "No, sir."

          I love these videos. Thanks for the share.
          The guy now should craft a perfect answer to that objection. But he was still swinging, I have to give him that.
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      This guy really does rock. At no time did he ask a question that the answer might kill the sale. A real warrior. My hat's off to him. I'll watch it more than once I think.

      I didn't think the woman was that tough, but Lipski didn't miss a beat. "...I'm trying to give you the stress relief here..." Brilliant.
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    • Great lines:

      Give me ten minutes, if it doesn't work for you, you can rule me in or rule me out.

      Every house that you list, you sell!!??
      Correct...do you want something like that working for you?

      They need someone to come in to come in and give them the truth, and show them how to get the home sold.

      I'm still going to get in to heaven, because I fought to get the appointment. You might call it pushy, I call it getting in there and saving their equity and getting them moving.
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    • Another good line:

      She says something like we tried to sell it, it's just not the right time.

      He comes back with, "Well, that's true, it may not be the right time for you, and speaking of time, are you aware of the market is predicted to do this year?"

      This response reminds me of helisell's "Have you heard the latest?" when people say they "know all about it."
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      • Profile picture of the author misterme
        Originally Posted by KingOfContentMarketing View Post

        Another good line:

        She says something like we tried to sell it, it's just not the right time.

        He comes back with, "Well, that's true, it may not be the right time for you, and speaking of time, are you aware of the market is predicted to do this year?"
        That's actually more of an objection handling formula then it is a line. If you don't know the formula, I'll give it to you. It works really well, mostly because people can't process two thoughts at the same time, so this takes them from their thought to your thought:

        Agree + Bridge + Regain Control By Asking A Question

        Agree = "Well, that's true, it may not be the right time for you..."
        Bridge = "and speaking of time..."
        Question = "are you aware what the market is predicted to do this year?"

        A bridge makes it seamless but you can do it without a bridge:

        "Well, that's true, it may not be the right time for you. Are you aware what the market is predicted to do this year?"
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        • Originally Posted by misterme View Post

          That's actually more of an objection handling formula then it is a line. If you don't know the formula, I'll give it to you. It works really well, mostly because people can't process two thoughts at the same time, so this takes them from their thought to your thought:

          Agree + Bridge + Regain Control By Asking A Question

          Agree = "Well, that's true, it may not be the right time for you..."
          Bridge = "and speaking of time..."
          Question = "are you aware what the market is predicted to do this year?"

          A bridge makes it seamless but you can do it without a bridge:

          "Well, that's true, it may not be the right time for you. Are you aware what the market is predicted to do this year?"
          Yeah, a bridge, that's it. He does that a lot and he's good at it. Reminds me of Grant Cardone agreeing with everything.

          I like the "have you heard the latest" response because you can use market knowledge and expertise. Very few prospects know as much as you about the market conditions of your product and niche.
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    Great contribution and youtube channel, bob!
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    If you like that real estate sales video, then you'll love this. This is the training. That guy I posted (Lipski) was following the script and these guys are the ones who, I think, developed that script. I could be wrong about that but nevertheless, good stuff.


    Not to take anything away from Lipski because he's obviously good. Here he is again, this time he's got someone answering while driving, keeps giving him objections to get off the phone - but he keeps him on.

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    When he's talking to the pizza restaurant owner and says along the lines of "well, we don't want you to get TOO many customers at once, so we'll start with xxxx" I assume that's another psychological method of persuasion?

    It seems to be removing the question of "CAN HE get the customers to my store" and replacing it with "how many do you want to have at your store"
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    • Profile picture of the author misterme
      Originally Posted by dmaster555 View Post

      When he's talking to the pizza restaurant owner and says along the lines of "well, we don't want you to get TOO many customers at once, so we'll start with xxxx" I assume that's another psychological method of persuasion?

      It seems to be removing the question of "CAN HE get the customers to my store" and replacing it with "how many do you want to have at your store"
      Unless it's in a different part of the call, he actually says "send too many postcards out at one time and you may not be able to handle the influx of business in one shot." And then suggests mailing in stages so it's affordable to do.

      Does that still impart the thought that this is going to bring in business? Sure.

      Obviously what Bob does works well enough for him. But now that you've pointed it out I find myself wondering why not invite the prospect to tell you how much business they could handle rather than tell them it'd be too much for them to handle?
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