Tell your story 100 times before you waste time and money

by DaniMc
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I see people here on an almost daily basis asking how to get started. What letter to send. What ad to post. What phone script to use. What tools to research. Where to find lists. Etc...etc...etc...

Here is the thing - What happens when you spend all that time and money to get a prospect, and then you go to them, and you are clumsy with your story, pitch, and delivery?

I've been involved in quite a few ventures and I have noticed something - I always suck at first. Telling the story sucks at first. I have a little non-profit going with a local University and the first few months promoting it were rough. I must have taken 100 meetings. I noticed each time that I was better. I found new words to use. I became more persuasive.

The same has been true for every business I have started or job I have had.

It doesn't matter if I was a traveling speaker or a low-level sales person. Repetition is the mother of skill.

You see the telemarketing experts explaining here, and I found this to be true myself, that your first 50 calls for the day are just a warm-up. The real money lies in calls after those first 50.

It's the same type of deal with telling a client what you can do with them.

You simply MUST get those initial 50-100 touches under your belt.

There are many people here who aren't telling their story 100 times per year. It's a shame. It will take you a year at that pace, just to be good at your "talk."

Speakers develop a "talk" that they give every time. It's the same. It may look inspired, but it is mostly good acting. After awhile, the inspiration wears off when you have said the same thing 1000 times.

You need to have a "talk" that you give, too. The only way you are going to get skilled at delivering this talk to business owners is to deliver it as often as possible.

So, if it takes you a year to tell your story 100 times, and I think that is being optimistic for a lot of people, you are simply moving to slow.

Out of those 100 talks, you might get 30 appointments. Out of those, you might make 7-8 sales. To sell $100k - you have to make sure that each client is worth $12,500. Subtract your overhead and you see the problem.

Most people aren't getting anywhere near $12,500 per client. Especially at first. At first, you simply will not be able to command that type of price, and that is why it is so important to tell your story more often.

So - stop researching. Stop buying tools. Stop thinking, making lists, and planning.

Find every business group in your area, and start going to the meetings. At these meetings, tell your story to as many people as possible. Get their cards and call them the next day to ask for an appointment.

You are simply going to suck at telling your story at first. If you tell your story to 5 people at each meeting, 20 meetings will get you to 100 times. That should take you about 2-3 months. You will have made some sales, and become much better.

Only start spending money and time on other things once these meetings are no longer paying off for you. I know people, who work for large companies, who make a very good living just from these meetings.

If you work hard, do a good job, and ask for referrals, you can live on networking alone.

But - the point of this post isn't about networking. It's about getting good at telling your story.

If you spend $1,000 and two months to get some appointments, without having told your story a bunch of times, that is going to be some expensive practice and unless you have another income source, you will probably go broke before you get traction.

Don't put the cart before the horse. Don't expend time and money getting appointments, before you are well versed in your story and how you can help your prospects.


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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Lessard
    Great post Dan and great advice. I see a version of this when it comes to launching web sites or businesses online as well. I see people so consumed and concerned with trying to launch something that is perfect. I tell them the sooner the launch the sooner they can get the dialogue going and make it better and better.

    I am NOT saying that you should not give consideration to copy and your message but I can tell you from great experience that no matter how good you think your initial message is, it will be much different and much better a year down the road after you get feedback and track conversions and adjust accordingly.

    Its funny when you refine all this down to its base it comes down to just do it, do it often and it gets better. Applies to everything from shooting hoops to closing sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
    So true! I've spent 100's of hours working on a project, thinking I have the most persuasive copy with the best possible funnel and, and, and, and...

    Only to see it flop. There goes two months and a ton of money down the drain.

    Just spit something out and see what people think - then you can start tweaking.
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  • Profile picture of the author misterme
    Originally Posted by Dan McCoy View Post

    I see people here on an almost daily basis asking how to get started. What letter to send. What ad to post. What phone script to use. What tools to research. Where to find lists.
    Yup. People tend to think it's this one thing they need when in fact they need lots of parts working well to make it work.

    I have noticed something - I always suck at first. Telling the story sucks at first.
    So funny because I was thinking the same thing two days ago and accepting it as such is life. And then I got thrown off last night on a sales call and though I think I responded back reasonably well, today it comes to my mind what else I could've should've said instead. Not that there are any guarantees things would've worked out differently.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
      Originally Posted by misterme View Post

      today it comes to my mind what else I could've should've said instead. Not that there are any guarantees things would've worked out differently.
      I know what you mean - I have had some major stumbles at very embarrassing times in front of some really important people who could have really helped a project.

      A senator comes to mind, as does a partner in a large VC firm.

      But - I never made those simple mistakes again when telling those stories. It's the only way to get better.

      Sometimes I feel like I go through life embarrassing myself and failing at almost everything - but when things work out, they work out pretty well.
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  • Profile picture of the author abozeb
    Great post, that's exactly my problem. I should stop "thinking" and start acting.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
      Originally Posted by abozeb View Post

      Great post, that's exactly my problem. I should stop "thinking" and start acting.
      You can do it.

      Everything you need - you already have. Just go forth.
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Lessard
    Cool thing is anyone successful feels your pain. They would not be where they are without some major flops under their belt :-)

    I have found very successful clients more forgiving and have actually had someone that became one of my best clients many years ago stop me and say "Peter, lets have a coffee and then you can start again. I want to hear your best arguments and we have just the right coffee for that."

    Took a break ,calmed my nerves and it all turned out well.
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  • Profile picture of the author rafsco
    Nice post.
    At the end, being in business it means to sell something. That's it. If you can't sell you are out. People have hard time leaving their comfort zone. All you have to do is to make the calls, drop into the businesses, talk to people, get rejected, over and over...Until you build a customer base that will sustain you. It might take years. First get the sales and then get ready, don't waste time getting ready for the sale if you have no idea how to get sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
    I remember the dean of a school I attended saying "Time spent in preparation, is never wasted time."

    I liked him. I thought it was profound. I took it to heart.

    I now know he was profoundly wrong and that one message slowed me down by many years.

    How on earth can you be ready for something, before you do it? Ask LeBron James which book you should read to make it the NBA LOL.
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    • Profile picture of the author planetlubs
      Originally Posted by Dan McCoy View Post

      I remember the dean of a school I attended saying "Time spent in preparation, is never wasted time."

      I liked him. I thought it was profound. I took it to heart.

      I now know he was profoundly wrong and that one message slowed me down by many years.

      How on earth can you be ready for something, before you do it? Ask LeBron James which book you should read to make it the NBA LOL.

      Thanks Dan for this great post. It is both motivational and encouraging.

      Regarding the dean of your school, I like to think that he was right. Even to tell your story, you have to make some preparation. At least for the first time, you have to prepare until the story becomes second nature to you when you do not even need to prepare to tell it.

      The problem is that people get stuck in the preparation stage and never proceed to the implementation part.
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      • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
        Originally Posted by planetlubs View Post

        Regarding the dean of your school, I like to think that he was right. Even to tell your story, you have to make some preparation. At least for the first time, you have to prepare until the story becomes second nature to you when you do not even need to prepare to tell it.

        The problem is that people get stuck in the preparation stage and never proceed to the implementation part.
        You are absolutely right, there is tiny dot of truth in it. You have to be prepared to know how to talk to people.

        You have to prepared to actually speak. But it will never, ever be second nature until you have told it a bunch of times.

        But honestly, I look at almost all preparation as wasted time. Go get some coffee...grab a napkin, write your talk out in that small space, and you are done.

        Now go start telling people! Chances are, you will actually say very little of what you wrote on the napkin.

        Afterward, you can write down the good stuff that you said, but I don't think it will be necessary.

        Don't plan. Just Do.
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  • Profile picture of the author NewParadigm
    paralysis by analysis

    perfect is the enemy of the good.

    Two phrases to etch in your mind.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheBigBee
      This is a classic Lean Start-Up approach.

      Big companies, even mobile game creators, tell their stories before they spend a nickel on product development. They'll come up with a concept, make it look like it exists to measure how badly the audience actually wants said product to exist.

      It's in my muscle memory now, constantly "selling air." I second Dan here. Tell your story. No website? So what! Talk to somebody. No business card? So what! Talk to somebody. Flat broke? So what! Talk to somebody!

      This approach lets you get through more ideas, and iterations of ideas, more rapidly, and most importantly more cheaply!

      I'm seeing guys starting to sell air in the WSO section (of course they are issuing instant refunds to all purchasers).
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  • Profile picture of the author mjbmedia
    this made me chuckle, reminded me of many networking meetings where Id be talking to lets call him Mr A and Id ask him some questions and he'd come back at me with well worded answers that he spoke with authority and conviction. I asked him some more and again he came back sounding polished. I was impressed with that if not so much with the actual content. But anyway I digress.

    On parting, Mr A started conversing with someone else within my earshot, I heard them ask him different questions, and he answered with the same answers word for word he had given me, he just started off by saying he wasn't too sure about XYZ but....and off he launched into his pre planned rehearsed delivery again. Later on that meeting I heard him at least 3 more times. Now that had an adverse effect on my initial thoughts about him , I now thought he was a BS'er , one trick pony, less than impressive.

    Where am I going with this, well as Dan says yes be practised in what you say but be careful about saying the same thing every time, be prepared and ready to adjust to fit the other persons communication and requirements
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    • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
      Originally Posted by mjbmedia View Post

      this made me chuckle, reminded me of many networking meetings where Id be talking to lets call him Mr A and Id ask him some questions and he'd come back at me with well worded answers that he spoke with authority and conviction. I asked him some more and again he came back sounding polished. I was impressed with that if not so much with the actual content. But anyway I digress.

      On parting, Mr A started conversing with someone else within my earshot, I heard them ask him different questions, and he answered with the same answers word for word he had given me, he just started off by saying he wasn't too sure about XYZ but....and off he launched into his pre planned rehearsed delivery again. Later on that meeting I heard him at least 3 more times. Now that had an adverse effect on my initial thoughts about him , I now thought he was a BS'er , one trick pony, less than impressive.

      Where am I going with this, well as Dan says yes be practised in what you say but be careful about saying the same thing every time, be prepared and ready to adjust to fit the other persons communication and requirements
      LOL. That's exactly why I say people should practice.

      At one extreme you are fumbling over your words.

      At the other extreme you are a robot - I bet that dude spent a lot of time writing the script.

      If people will have 100 conversations about what they can do for others, they will be amazed what will happen.
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      it is very helpful to me.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
      Originally Posted by Marty S View Post

      Nice lesson. Thanks for this post Dan.

      Further to this - If I have new material that I want to use to sell face to face, I often make a video of myself - web-cam usually, but have used full frontal shots too! I do it until I can do the "script", by memory, and in a completely comfortable and trustworthy delivery. If you can sell the story to yourself, its much easier to pull it off with a real prospect.
      Interesting take.

      I'm just the opposite - I have to really work to get it right alone on camera.

      I find that engaging with people gets my creative juices going, and the feedback I get in conversation really helps me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    In the two years I've been here, I don't think anyone has said it this way or this well, Dan.

    And you know what?

    It's SIMPLE.

    No technical things to learn. Just get in front of people, and tell them your story.

    When I was looking for employment, that's what I'd do in interviews. My resume was set up so that each of my past roles had 2 or 3 bullet points about situations about which I had a story. If they wanted to run through my resume as the structure for the interview, fine. All I had to do was tell my story. In order!

    If they wanted me to do most of the talking, all I had to do was tell my story...with my resume as the reminder notes!

    Multiple interviewers? No problem. You can't throw someone off track when they know their own story--how to say it, how to sell it, their WHY.

    Carries over very nicely into sales work.

    The secret is: You WILL Suck.

    At everything you do.

    At the start.

    Everything.

    As children, we don't mind and we just keep going.

    As adults, we get all messed up about it. We expect we should be awesome from Moment #1. Why?

    When I call into a new niche, new for me anyway, I know I'm going to suck for the first week or so. But I have to get started. I'm listening for pain points. I'm listening for feedback. I'm adjusting. After a couple weeks, I don't suck anymore.

    But if you never begin, you'll never get there.

    Imagine you've told your story 1000 times. It's automatic. The words roll off your tongue in a pleasing way. You hardly even have to think about it. If you want to mix it up, do something different, you can call attention to it and the audience will liven up. They'll know this is new and untried and exciting! But the basics? The skeleton of your story? You got it nailed.

    Reader, will you invest the time to reach this point?

    Sadly, I doubt it. My experience here shows me the majority nod but go on looking for that unicorn, the Easy button.
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  • Profile picture of the author Achiz768
    yes- I definitely think that many are stuck in "analysis paralysis"...because I've been there myself before. It all boils down to taking action and stop worrying about being perfect. You're gonna mess up-but you'll learn from your mistakes.
    I do, however feel that you should have some sort of system to organize your business as well as training of course
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  • Profile picture of the author Ian Ralphs
    Great post Dan.

    When I finished reading it, I started thinking back to those early days of going for job interviews, where you've got all of the gear - new shirt, tie, suit etc, and you think you're ready for it.....you've got your responses down to a tee, and you know what you'll say when specific questions come....

    And then you find that people throw in curve balls, people don't always ask you in the way that others said you'd be asked, and you freeze, mumble your way through, and eventually come out of the other side. And maybe you get the gig, maybe not, but the toughies are where you really learn.....

    ..and the more you do it, the easier it gets....you get good at dealing with the curve balls, and new scenarios get added into your arsenal of 'life experiences', and eventually you get from the conscious-incompetent stage to the unconscious-competent stage, and wonder why couldn't do it years ago.....

    and like you say, there is no substitute for just 'doing'....in at the deep end, and after a bit of thrashing around, going underwater but coming back up again, eventually you'll find your balance and not only be treading water - you'll actually be able to move where you want to get to.
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  • Profile picture of the author misterme
    In a way, it's like a broadway show doing performances out of town before it opens big time, seeing where the audience laughs, cries, cheers. Making edits throwing out the stuff that isn't working, slows down the momentum, tweaking the stuff that gets a response. A classic show like "A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum" - brilliantly hysterical yet it took 7 years of rewrites to make it that funny. And that's with a golden team of comedy writers at the helm. Success usually doesn't happen right out of the gate.
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  • Profile picture of the author thattaway
    A nice cold splash of reality. Chilling, refreshing, and necessary! You've done a great service by making this post. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author WarBird
    Great Post and Thread - Thanks Dan for this string.

    Gets to the heart - before you can be great, you have to be good - before good, you are mediocre - before mediocre (or average), poor - before poor, most suck. Important to get the bad out of the way fast. Now obviously, when someone knows what they are talking about and has some past experience in conveying ideas verbally, that term 'suck' can be somewhat relative, but - relaive to the same message delivered for the 100th time as you put it here - that first delivery would 'suck' ... - like running pass patterns or cooking a special meal etc... practice to get good..., get those 'practice runs out of the way fast and often and then to your point - run those early attempts at telling the story in less costly enviornments before you begin to 'pay' for the opportunity to present your story - have it ready for the investment you make. What a great piece of advise you brought out here.
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    • Profile picture of the author goharnett
      thanks Dan.

      when I reflect, most people who've done business with me like or trust me or can relate to my story. in the offline world, face to face or phone conversations over my real stories, or what's going on, connect me to the business people i'm meeting.

      I actually freeze up when the first statement from a prospect upon sitting down is "OK, whatya got for me?" They expect me to show them my frgn product like a dog on a pony. at those times, i am learning to unfreeze that thought and connect them to my story, or any damn story besides this "thing" I'm supposedly selling.

      I'm selling myself. I gotta connect... a good story engages them differently. and opens up the mind to get down to biz.

      so... then, What the Hell is Your Story?

      that's a big Q, i imagine, for lots of folks just starting out. they have no story yet. ah ha... but they do. i suggest to them, tell people HOW you happen to get in front of them today and HOW you got to be doing what you are now doing. ... from there the story develops.

      thanks for the great reminder to tell my story even more.
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