Review My Sales Pitch! Please help.

by Bread
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Hello, everyone.
I'm new to the Offline Marketing business and I've recently started doing text message marketing.
Last week, I followed up with an appointment that was set up the day before. It was with the daughter of the owner of a Mexican/Vegetarian restaurant.

I'll do my best to type everything that was said.


Liz, "How can I help you?"
Me, "Hi, are you Liz? I'm Matthew, we spoke on the phone yesterday."
Liz, "That's right."
Me, "How are you? Looks like you're running the whole place by yourself."
Liz, "Most of the time, yes."
Me, "Anyways, like I mentioned a little bit on the phone.. I wanted to give you more info on text message marketing. You said that you were doing groupons, right?"
Liz, "Yes, we just finished.
Me, "A restaurant I worked at before, we did groupons. I noticed that it brought in a lot of people, but the thing is.. people never really bought above the discount."
She agreed.
Me, "Well, I wanted to tell you about text message marketing. Basically, how it works is we would send out a mass text to all of your customers saying something like 'Show this text to your server to receive 50% off any pizza with the purchase of a large pizza!' (Before I went to the restaurant, I looked at their menu to see what kind of food they served)
Now in order to text your customers, we would need their numbers first, right? What I would do is put these (I pull out table tents and flyers out of an envelope) on your tables and on the window.
Seemingly intrigued, she says "Oh, I was wondering how we would do that."
Me, "So, on the table tents, it would say something like 'Text Liz to 11111 to receive text coupons!' Then they would get subscribed onto the campaign. When we decide there's enough people opted in, we'll send our first promotion.
Cool fact. Did you know that 97% of text messages get opened?
Liz, "Well yeah, of course! Who are your clients?
(I sort of lied here.. I feel really bad about it)
Me, "I'm about to help out this other restaurant called _______."
(The business I was "about to help out" was gonna contact me a couple months later.)
Liz, "Oh, I know that place!"
Me, "Yeah, I really love the food."
Liza "So.. what will this cost me?"
Me, "Others would charge about $1,000 for a set up fee.. and then about $500 every month after that.
I would actually charge half. So about $500 for a set up fee, and then about $200-300."
Liz, "I see.. So, how does this work? Is there a contract?
I was caught off guard. I wasn't expected to be asked this.
Me, "Well, it's just me. I'm just starting this."
(Not sure how that made sense.)
Liz, "Oh, I see! Just you, huh?"
(At this point, I had to think quick. I don't know anything about contracts.)
Me, "Yeah, there are no contracts. No obligations."

There's sort of a silence here as she continues to work and reviews everything I told her. I noticed she's juicing carrots.

Me, "What are you making?"
Liz, "Ah, just carrot juice."
(I'll just leave this part out. We have a little friendly conversation about juicing and eating healthy.)

Then, we get back on topic

Liz, "I will need to run by my mom on this. She mainly speaks Spanish though.
(Her mom is the owner.)
The thing is, it's the start of the new year and it's kind of slow right now, which is why I'm the only one working. Also, we just ran groupon, so this text message marketing is out of my budget right now. Let me talk to my mom about this and I'll contact you in a couple weeks."

Out of desperation, I wanted to offer a month free.

Me, "Well, how about this.. How about I give you my service for free for one month. I'll handle everything for you. How does that sound?"

She looks surprised at this point.

Liz, "Well, let me talk to my mom about it. Here, write your name and number and text message marketing so I remember. I'll call you on Monday. If I don't call, then I'm probably really busy, so please, call me."


The following Monday she doesn't call me.
I wait til Tuesday to go back to the restaurant.

She tells me that she talked to her mom about it and that they're really interested. But they can't afford it right now and that they'll call me in the beginning of February.



I'm sorry that was a lot.

I have some questions..
1. Should I have a contract?
2. How do I offer value?
3. How do I close the sale then and there?
4. How can I improve?

Thank you for your help!


This probably isn't a salespitch. I'm not sure what to call it.
#pitch #review #sales
  • Profile picture of the author misterme
    Originally Posted by Bread View Post

    I have some questions..
    1. Should I have a contract?
    2. How do I offer value?
    3. How do I close the sale then and there?
    4. How can I improve?

    This probably isn't a salespitch.
    You'd be right about that.

    There is no closing it because you can only close a sale after you've actually conducted one - which you didn't. That's how you'd be able to improve, by learning how to sell. You weren't in control of the process, didn't gear your conversation to their interests, didn't help them connect the dots, you didn't meet with the decision maker present, you didn't qualify them, you didn't play to your strengths, you got desperate - and on top of it all you complimented their competition's food.

    That all needs to change.

    How do you plan on making those changes?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Bread, go here

    http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...t-selling.html

    And take Misterme's advice. If Claude Whitacre, Ken Michaels, EwenMack or Rearden share their views on this thread, listen to them, too. (EDIT: Aaron Doud as well; can't believe I missed him.) I say this (and may have missed someone; sorry if I did) because that was your first post ever, so perhaps you are new and don't know who is who yet. If you've been lurking for awhile then you'll know the people more. Of course other people can offer good advice as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author unvealscam
    You cannot always make a sale in the first call. Telesales is all about reaching the right customer. Your Pitch seems to be perfect but you should've conversated with the decision maker here it seems Liz needs to ask her mom to commit, even if she would be interested she would have asked you to call sometime later!
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    • Originally Posted by unvealscam View Post

      You cannot always make a sale in the first call. Telesales is all about reaching the right customer. Your Pitch seems to be perfect but you should've conversated with the decision maker here it seems Liz needs to ask her mom to commit, even if she would be interested she would have asked you to call sometime later!
      Amen to that
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by Bread View Post

    Hello, everyone.
    I'm new to the Offline Marketing business and I've recently started doing text message marketing.
    Last week, I followed up with an appointment that was set up the day before. It was with the daughter of the owner of a Mexican/Vegetarian restaurant.

    I'll do my best to type everything that was said.


    Liz, "How can I help you?"
    Me, "Hi, are you Liz? I'm Matthew, we spoke on the phone yesterday."
    Liz, "That's right."
    Me, "How are you? Looks like you're running the whole place by yourself."
    Liz, "Most of the time, yes."
    Me, "Anyways, like I mentioned a little bit on the phone.. I wanted to give you more info on text message marketing. You said that you were doing groupons, right?"
    Liz, "Yes, we just finished.
    Me, "A restaurant I worked at before, we did groupons. I noticed that it brought in a lot of people, but the thing is.. people never really bought above the discount."
    She agreed.
    Me, "Well, I wanted to tell you about text message marketing. Basically, how it works is we would send out a mass text to all of your customers saying something like 'Show this text to your server to receive 50% off any pizza with the purchase of a large pizza!' (Before I went to the restaurant, I looked at their menu to see what kind of food they served)
    Now in order to text your customers, we would need their numbers first, right? What I would do is put these (I pull out table tents and flyers out of an envelope) on your tables and on the window.
    Seemingly intrigued, she says "Oh, I was wondering how we would do that."
    Me, "So, on the table tents, it would say something like 'Text Liz to 11111 to receive text coupons!' Then they would get subscribed onto the campaign. When we decide there's enough people opted in, we'll send our first promotion.
    Cool fact. Did you know that 97% of text messages get opened?
    Liz, "Well yeah, of course! Who are your clients?
    (I sort of lied here.. I feel really bad about it)
    Me, "I'm about to help out this other restaurant called _______."
    (The business I was "about to help out" was gonna contact me a couple months later.)

    Liz, "Oh, I know that place!"
    Me, "Yeah, I really love the food."
    Liza "So.. what will this cost me?"
    You lied to the prospect twice. What's worse, the first lie was one that could be easily checked. Frankly, up until then, you were doing well.

    Originally Posted by Bread View Post

    Me, "Others would charge about $1,000 for a set up fee.. and then about $500 every month after that.
    I would actually charge half. So about $500 for a set up fee, and then about $200-300."
    Liz, "I see.. So, how does this work? Is there a contract?
    I was caught off guard. I wasn't expected to be asked this.
    And you didn't answer her question. The answer is "That's one of the best parts, there is no contract. We only do business as long as it's profitable for you" or "That's the best part. We have an agreement that locks in our price for a whole year. We can't increase your price for a year. So you're safe from any price increases"


    Originally Posted by Bread View Post

    Me, "Well, it's just me. I'm just starting this."
    (Not sure how that made sense.)
    Liz, "Oh, I see! Just you, huh?"
    (At this point, I had to think quick. I don't know anything about contracts.)
    Me, "Yeah, there are no contracts. No obligations."
    And here's where she decided not to buy from you. Her image of you just shifted.


    There's sort of a silence here as she continues to work and reviews everything I told her. I noticed she's juicing carrots.

    Originally Posted by Bread View Post

    Me, "What are you making?"
    Liz, "Ah, just carrot juice."
    (I'll just leave this part out. We have a little friendly conversation about juicing and eating healthy.)
    The rest doesn't matter, because you lost her. Maybe she wouldn't have bought anyway. Maybe her mom really has to decide. But you absolutely need to know the answers to the questions you were asked. And the answer you give must increase your value in the eyes of the prospect. And you can do that, no matter what the answer is.

    "It's just me, I'm just starting out" No.

    "You're going to be getting personal attention. I'm keeping my business small so that each client gets the attention they deserve. And if there is ever a question, I'll be the one taking care of it. You'll never be put on hold. Sound good?" Yes.

    "You would be my first restaurant. And that means I'm going to give your account the attention needed to make sure this works for you. Because I want you to be so happy with my service, that you tell others about it. Fair enough?"

    That's off the top of my head, but that's probably what I'd say.

    Don't quit. You made a couple of stupid mistakes. Now make those mistakes pay.
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  • Profile picture of the author wsands
    Originally Posted by Bread View Post

    I have some questions..
    1. Should I have a contract?
    2. How do I offer value?
    3. How do I close the sale then and there?
    4. How can I improve?

    Thank you for your help!


    This probably isn't a salespitch. I'm not sure what to call it.
    Just my 2 cents but if she isn't the decision maker, or is a co-decision maker and the other decision maker isn't there, I wouldn't have taken the appointment. When I go into a place, immediately I try to figure out who makes the decisions and writes the checks. If you pitch someone that isn't the decision maker, that person usually can't pass the buck fast enough to the decision maker, who may or may not be there. Here is what happens no matter what. Liz takes away about 7% of what you said, and tries to sell Mom on it. She gets the brush off and you get no return phone calls from that point, or if you stop by you'll get "yeah we're good, Mom said no". If at any point you figure out that you aren't pitching a decision maker, or there is another person involved in this process, you need to halt your pitch and swing it to a pitch to get in front of the decision maker/check writer

    1.Nothing says "It's time to write me a check" like pulling out a contract and a pen.

    2. In my experience with restaurants you have a couple ways you could add value to your pitch, imagine your slowest day and we blast out your lunch special 30 min before lunch and everyone that comes in shows their phone for the "special". Now you don't have a slow day! Or You can compare mailing a coupon or some other form of advertising they are doing to sending an instant message out for a fraction of the mailer cost etc... OR you can use text message marketing to track your other ads by using a different keyword for each ad type out there. It depends on their pain points, one of these three is definitely a pain point for them.

    3. Ask them if they prefer to pay by check or charge!

    4. Meet with the DM, have a contract, show a value in specific relation to their pain point, hand them the pen to fill out the paperwork with their info.
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Lessard
    You are getting some great advice already. I just wanted to chime in and say good job on actually getting out there and trying to sell, you are already way ahead of many that will never do that.

    Even smarter is being will to ask for help. Don't be put off by what are obvious mistakes to those with experience because we ALL learned it the hard way just like you are now.

    If you apply what is being offered you will do well.

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Bread
      Thanks for the feedback everyone! Wow. Looks like I have so much I need to work on.


      Originally Posted by misterme View Post

      You'd be right about that.

      There is no closing it because you can only close a sale after you've actually conducted one - which you didn't. That's how you'd be able to improve, by learning how to sell. You weren't in control of the process, didn't gear your conversation to their interests, didn't help them connect the dots, you didn't meet with the decision maker present, you didn't qualify them, you didn't play to your strengths, you got desperate - and on top of it all you complimented their competition's food.

      That all needs to change.

      How do you plan on making those changes?

      Where can I learn to control the process, or to gear the conversation to their interests, or help them connect the dots, or play into their strengths?


      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      Bread, go here

      http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...t-selling.html

      And take Misterme's advice. If Claude Whitacre, Ken Michaels, EwenMack or Rearden share their views on this thread, listen to them, too. I say this (and may have missed someone; sorry if I did) because that was your first post ever, so perhaps you are new and don't know who is who yet. If you've been lurking for awhile then you'll know the people more. Of course other people can offer good advice as well.

      Thank you for the free training!
      And I'll be sure to check out the people you mentioned.


      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      You lied to the prospect twice. What's worse, the first lie was one that could be easily checked. Frankly, up until then, you were doing well.
      Oh, I'm sorry. The statistic I gave was an actual one. I should've made it more clear. I only lied about me helping another business.



      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      And you didn't answer her question. The answer is "That's one of the best parts, there is no contract. We only do business as long as it's profitable for you" or "That's the best part. We have an agreement that locks in our price for a whole year. We can't increase your price for a year. So you're safe from any price increases"

      "You're going to be getting personal attention. I'm keeping my business small so that each client gets the attention they deserve. And if there is ever a question, I'll be the one taking care of it. You'll never be put on hold. Sound good?" Yes.

      "You would be my first restaurant. And that means I'm going to give your account the attention needed to make sure this works for you. Because I want you to be so happy with my service, that you tell others about it. Fair enough?"

      That's off the top of my head, but that's probably what I'd say.

      Don't quit. You made a couple of stupid mistakes. Now make those mistakes pay.

      These are much better than what I could ever come up with. Thanks!



      Again, thank you everyone for your help. If you have anything else to share, then please feel free to post. I could use all the help I can get.
      Also, if you know of any good resources then please share those, too.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by Bread View Post

        Oh, I'm sorry. The statistic I gave was an actual one. I should've made it more clear. I only lied about me helping another business.
        Young man; I'm sorry I reread your pitch again, and you're right. There was only one lie. My mistake.
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  • Profile picture of the author misterme
    Originally Posted by Bread View Post

    Where can I learn to control the process, or to gear the conversation to their interests, or help them connect the dots, or play into their strengths?
    I wrote "play into your strengths."

    OMG where to learn all this? Maybe I'll offer mentoring services some day. I think finding a mentor, a good one, will shave years off your learning curve.

    You control the process by asking questions. LISTEN to your prospective clients. They're telling you what you need to know. Helping them connect the dots means you guide them through decision making to the desired outcome. It's like teaching.

    As an example, off the top of my head, might go like this:

    Mister Me: Well, you said you said you wanted to do something that worked better than the groupon stuff you were doing, is that right?"
    Liz: "Yes, we just finished doing groupons."
    Mister Me: "Didn't work out so well? Why do you think that was?"
    Liz "Oh they just kept with the deal and didn't spend more. No one came back either. Plus they were fussy."
    Mister Me: "Doesn't sound like the kind of customer you want to attract."
    Liz: "Not at all. What makes your text message advertising any better?"
    Mister Me: "Well for one thing you're not going to have to give up half the deal, right? [uh huh] Speaking of that, what do you feel has to change about the way you were doing the deals?"
    Liz: Well, not giving up half the deal like you said, for one thing. Also, I want to get a better customer."
    Mister Me: "OK. What would make them better?"
    Liz: "I guess you can't expect them all to be nice people ok I understand that but at least if they came in and ordered up a little bit, you know like some drink, a dessert, coffee."
    Mister Me: "Uh huh, ok. I see what you mean. So you want to get people in, and you want to get more of a crowd eager to order your plates, is that right?"
    Liz: "Yes, that's it.
    Mister me: "With groupon they wanted you to give a lot of stuff away, right?"
    Liz: "Yes. The representative said it would bring in more people if the deal was very attractive."
    Mister Me: "Yes but it brings in the wrong people, right?" [uh huh] But that's because they used 'pile it high for little cost' as the lure to bring in people. You think if we change the lure we change the people who'll come in because of it?"
    Liz: "What do you mean?"
    Mister me: "Here's the beauty of text marketing: It's not about the deal, it's not about you get a full dinner for one eight the price. It's about the timing. THAT's what makes it work better. We send out a mass text to all of your customers saying something like 'Show this text to your server to receive 50% off any pizza with the purchase of a large pizza!' and it's right at dinner time when people are most thinking, "got to get something to eat" NOT "how much can I save?" - How would that work for you?
    Liz: "Well, I'd get to keep more money from the deal, so that's good... and it sounds right what you said about the timing. It could work."

    I'm sure in real life there are some other questions which come up, things which need to be said, and a pretty good offer that appears to be risk free would only help, but for now, see what I'm doing? I'm helping them see how this can work for them, guiding them to come to the conclusions themselves. They'll be more convinced that way.

    Notice too that I'm not answering on everything she says by pitching. You need to bring them to the place where they want the answer.

    Ideally I'd want to bring them to the point where they ask me in to do the service. It's a very natural progression.

    This is where you might use Claude's famous, "how soon would you like to have these customers come in?" though if they ask you to help them with your service, a good close to use is to say, "Ok."
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