[HOW TO] Has January Sucked for You? Here's How To Make February Not Suck

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Despite December being good for sales for many offliners and onliners, January has not been a continuation of that experience for most. I've seen a lot of posts asking, “Are your sales down, like mine are?”

The only people whose sales are not down are those with a consistent prospecting plan in place.

That plan does not have to include calling...but it sure helps.

Now when somebody calls you, it's pretty straightforward: they usually know what you do and they are asking around for help with that. We understand. But when you call them, the situation is different, isn't it? They don't know you, haven't identified you. What do you say?

The chief problem people have when making prospecting calls is they are trying to sell before they qualify. Can you sell immediately? Sure. Does it produce a lot of wear-and-tear on you? Yes. Let's find out one thing first: Do they NEED or want what you have to offer?

There's a painless way to do this. I know it looks lengthy, but it's actually straightforward and with only a few simple steps.

First, create something that tells your prospects what you do...and how you stand out. Could be an infographic. Could be a 15-page report. Could be a list of seven things they need to watch for when picking someone to help them that does what you do. Key point: this doesn't have to be fancy or long. Keeping it brief could be for the best anyway, since people don't have much time.

Now make a list of 50 suspects. These are businesses who fit a profile of those who you want to serve: size, revenue, industry, location. You do not need a contact name. We'll deal with that in a minute. All you need is a spreadsheet or even a handwritten list of the company name and their phone number. This is easy.

Call the number. When they answer, say:

“Hi, I'm not sure who I should speak with...maybe you can help me.”

Pause for a moment here. Give them a chance to say, “Sure!” or “Okay.” Whether they respond or not, continue with:

“I usually talk with the person who takes care of {whatever it is you do—eg. marketing, getting new customers, writing projects}...but I don't know who that would be there.” And trail off.

Wait for the person to reply. It may take a few seconds.

They may transfer you so quickly they don't even tell you who you're being sent to.

They may tell you, “That's {name}.” Ask to be transferred if they don't do this now.

They may ask you, “What's this about?” No problem. Expect this question, but don't give much weight to it. Don't get defensive. Do not get into long descriptions of what you do. Say, “Well, I help businesses {repeat what you said above—with their marketing, get more customers, complete writing projects, etc.}. But again, I'm not sure who takes care of that there.” And stop. The simple repeating of what you just said is almost always enough for them to send you along. They're looking for a reason to help you, to make the connection; give them this easy-to-understand reason (I did a radio interview in which the male host told me when asked this question he once told the gatekeeper, “It's his mother,” and was immediately sent through. I'm not saying to lie—I'm pointing out how little attention the gatekeeper is probably giving to their question and your answer. Give them an easy reason to send you along. Don't put so much pressure on yourself.)

Now you either have voicemail or a live suspect on the line.

If you get voicemail, you can leave a brief message:

“Hi {name, if you got it—don't worry if you didn't; sometimes you get transferred so fast and the voicemail greeting is so bad you can't hear it}, I'm not sure we should be speaking.” This makes them lean into the call. Whatdya mean, we shouldn't be speaking?! “Reception transferred me to you...I'm looking for the person who takes care of {whatever it is you do}. But I'm not sure if that's you. Could you give me a call back, and let me know whether that is you, or if there's someone else I should be talking to? It's {your local time} here in {your town}; I'll be in my office until {x-o'clock}. My number is ###-###-####.”

And that's it. Do not leave details. At least 1/3 will call back from simple curiosity.

If you get a live suspect, say:

“Hi {name, if you got it; see above}, I'm not sure we should be speaking. I'm looking for the person who takes care of {whatever it is you do}. But I'm not sure if that's you, or someone else?” And stop. Wait for them to answer. They'll confirm or direct you to someone else.

If it's someone else, ask, “Oh OK. But they aren't in, are they?” Get transferred. You can use a slight modification of the above voicemail, cutting out the “I'm not sure we should be speaking” part since you know it is the correct person now. Instead of “Could you give me a call back, and let me know,” say, “I've got a quick question for you about {whatever it is that you do}.” Then leave your local time, location and number. If they answer live, you can say the last person said to speak with them—now you have an internal referral, and that little fact gives your call more power.

If you find you're talking to the correct person, continue with:

“Great, glad to hear it. ...Is this a bad time to talk for a minute?”

You want to find out. There's no sense at all in fighting with someone who's having a bad day, and that's what you'll end up doing if it is a bad time for them. This simple act of getting permission to speak is very much appreciated by prospects, and I have had many, many business owners go out of their way to specifically tell me so.

If it is a bad time, say you'll call them back and hang up. Call them back in a day or two. Now you know their name, so you can ask for them directly.

If it's not a bad time--or the prospect has called you back from your voicemail--you can continue with:

“I appreciate that. Well, the reason I called is that I do help businesses with {whatever it is that you do}. Now I don't expect you to just drop everything and sign up with me, since we just met. What I have found, though, is that a lot of people don't really know what to look for other than price when they're picking out someone to work with like me.” Pause briefly here. They may give an “mmhmm” or something similar. “I've put together a {your giveaway document—writeup of the top seven things to make sure you cover/most important pitfalls to avoid when choosing/etc.}. I don't know if this would be helpful for you, though...” and trail off.

Wait for their answer. We used an advanced technique called a Negative Reversal here. If we asked right away, “Could I send it to you?” or tried to push them on taking it, they would likely resist.

If they answer “No,” you can say, “Didn't think so. Well, I guess there's no point in us continuing talking, is there?” Going extremely negative like this can cause prospects to respond by moving in the opposite direction—and it's a surprise even to them. (“Wait, I didn't say that!...what do you do?” and now you're starting a conversation.) And if they say “You're right,” you can hang up and it's only taken you a minute or two to get to this point. No frustration, no upset feelings. It's not rejection. They simply have no NEED for what you offer at this time. You can call them back in 3-6 months to find out if anything has changed.

Many prospects, however, will answer, “Sure!” And you can respond with, “All right. How can I send it to you?” Now you're getting their email address and permission to market to them.

At this point, they're letting you into their world (a little). This is the biggest hurdle to get over: the initial trust hurdle prospects have.You can ask if you can follow up in a few days to find out what they thought about it. Book the callback in your calenders. At that time you can discover what stood out for them, what it made them realize, and whether anything in that list made them think of something you could help out with—that's a potential sale, by the way. Now they're seeing you as an individual and are open to talking with you.

Again, this method is all about minimizing the wear-and-tear on you while getting you taking action on prospecting for new business. Could you go more directly and aggressively at getting conversions? Sure. And you could beat yourself up a lot faster and quit, too.

We want quality conversations with business owners and other decision makers. The more of these conversations we get, the more likely we are to achieving a sale. This is the most painless and quickest way I am aware of to start getting quality conversations with decision makers. Watch what happens to your calendar as you move through your dials. When you have worked through the first 50, make another list of 50 and continue. Feed the pipeline so that you always have new leads, new projects. Now when one drops out, it's no big deal—you have seven or eight more on the go.
#offline marketing #february #january #make #sucked
  • I really like infographics idea! It's a fairly new concept for me, but I've seen quite a few of them as of late from various sources I follow (@JerryMoran from SAP has some excellent stuff!).

    Perhaps an infographic would be a good idea for distributing to those prospects who are a "little unsure" themselves? I am thinking after a conversation we may have had, or maybe even as a quick follow up note/email I send out.

    Anyway -- another excellent post with great info!
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    • Thanks. The point of this approach is to get you starting conversations with at least somewhat-qualified prospects who are now seeing you as an individual.

      The initial call is simply to see if they are open to hearing from you. If not, no big deal. If so, great; send them the differentiator (look at Ewen's posts to see how to position yourself as 'the only' with one of these). Move through the calls quickly. Fast and painless. Each should take you a couple minutes or less. In under two hours, you can have your document in the email boxes of 10 or so prospects, and have callbacks booked with them.
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  • Fantastic post Jason.

    My approach differs in some areas but this is one of the best no-pressure processes I've seen talked about on here. Perfect for anyone wanting to jump into this but still reluctant to get on the phone and start having conversations. If you think offline might be for you and want to start getting sales sooner rather than later, follow this advice.
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  • Thank you Jason. This is brilliant stuff.
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  • It's Monday tomorrow...I hope you used the weekend to develop your differentiator piece!

    Remember, there ARE people out there just wishing someone like you would call.
  • I like it! Thanks

    Will start using that tomorrow or Wednesday.
  • It is a little quiet BUT I have had work to keep me busy, and due to our heat waves, being quiet isn't so bad.
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    • Well that's why I like Jason's twist: talk to the person in charge of getting new customers. Sounds way better to me

      Ha ha. Here's it's freezing. The world is quite diverse
  • " 'I appreciate that. Well, the reason I called is that I do help businesses with {whatever it is that you do}....' "

    I offer SMS, so here is what I (will) say to my prospects. I think it does a great job in creating interest to at least hear me out. I have my list of 40 places and will be calling later today as I have school in the mornings.

    "Well, the reason I called is that I help businesses connect with their customers in ways that traditional e-mail newsletters and social media simply can't compete with."

    I think this creates a bit of interest, especially the social media part, on the prospects end cause they utilize both, but i make it sound like I have a better tool to show them. What do you guys think? And I'll post the results later!
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    • Not bad if you're talking to the decision maker. Could be effective (test!).

      But if you're talking to the gatekeeper, it's Too Much Information (TMI!). I recommend keeping it more general. In fact, don't be ultra-clear or salesy at all here: you're trying to give the GK a reason, a simple reason, to send your call along. "I help marketing managers do their job more effectively." Do not pitch the gatekeeper. You want your conversation with the person who has the power to buy from you.
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  • I feel like as soon as I am to say, I usually talk to the person who takes care of marketing, I would get a wall put up. I work with skilled trade business owners and it seems the word marketing scares them off for some reason. Like its a bad word. So I'm trying to come up with something like "I usually talk to the person who takes care of the company's visibility and getting new customers".

    Now, to be clear, I haven't used this script. I'm just saying what it seems like from past experience. I think the script itself is brilliant and honestly I'm trying to just make enough at this point so I can take Jason's training. I've watched many of his videos and I know his training is exactly what I need to get over this extreme fear of prospecting that I have (a fear for no reason really).
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    • Nobody said you HAD to say "marketing". You can say whatever works for you. If you find "marketing" makes prospects defensive, use another word; preferably one of THEIR words. How do they phrase what you call "marketing"? Feed it back to them.
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  • Good stuff Jason. Will bookmark this so I can review and put in practice when I get back to my 'office'.
  • I have another dumb question, well maybe not dumb but still. Will this approach work if it's somewhat obvious that the business is a one man show? Such as a plumber and on their website it's relatively obvious it's just him. Would it then be better to ask for him directly than ask him if it's a bad time to talk? I guess I just wouldn't want to sound like I did no homework prior to calling.
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    • Understand what you are doing. There is a process here.

      You are not just talking to people. You are following a process for a consistent outcome.

      Start removing steps and you'll start removing the consistency from the outcome.

      Read what I wrote in reply to Claude's question of what problems new salespeople have. Don't know how to get DMs on the phone. Don't know how to start conversations.

      Have conversations. Don't worry about "doing your homework". 30 seconds of conversation will tell you a whole lot more than looking up their website. And they don't tell you their greatest weakness on their website. They don't tell you why they'll buy on their website.

      Don't try cutting out steps. People do, though. They think they know better. Then they say "It doesn't work." And I know from other trainers in other fields that people cut out steps from their processes, too.
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    • You might be surprised how many times in this situation you end up talking to the wife. And for me on an occasion or two talking with their son or daughter. It would seem that ultimately they may not be the one making the over all decision, but they are the one influencing the decision.
  • Awesome post Jason.

    Really appreciate you taking the time and the trouble to write and share this.

    All the best. Regards.
  • I know I'm not supposed to take it personally but I just got yelled at, hung up on and laughed at. And those were my first three calls. All this was after getting the right person and asking if it was a bad time. This is the reason I feared the phone, lol. Every single one said they wanted nothing to do with the internet and all I tried to do was send them a free report. Ugh!!
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    • DPM,

      My first thought here is # 1 you need to create Rhino Skin, skin so thick no matter what it does not effect you mentally. Oren Klaff has some great materials on this sort of stuff... In fact, this is a great video here to get an idea.

      Nothing in this world happens until something is sold, so get good at sales and develop super thick skin. One of the greatest professions in the world.


    • ..and amazingly you are still alive and able to tell us about it! Review those coversations and carefully compare to the one Jason defined. Its going to take more than 3 conversations to identify a qualified prospect. Just sort thru them until you find one that has a need for what you offer, can pay for it and is someone you'd be willing to work with.
    • ...

      ...

      ...I did have a guy call me once who got yelled at in his FIRST call ever after listening to something free from me.

      Luckily I answered and patched him back up. Told him it was unlikely he'd experience that again in a year of calling. And it's true. You shouldn't need "rhino skin" because this kind of thing should not happen very often.

      Are you following the script? When you say "all I tried to do was send them a free report", I don't think you are. Because that's NOT what you're "trying to do" here. We're not trying to make anyone do anything.

      Note that you did get step #1 done, getting to the DM. I'll bet this is where you stop following the script, and start saying something like, "I have this report; can I send it to you?"

      "Free" giveaways still require a sale.

      Who are you calling? How did you put your lead list together?

      PM me 3 #s, and your report (dropbox it and send me the link).

      Did you record the calls? Make 20 and see how it turns out.
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  • This is nice jason.. Thanks for this awesome stuff.
  • You're right man, kids absolutly...
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    • Yes, it's very common with trades that their wives or other member of the family are the office manager and make all the decisions regarding websites/marketing services.

      Some of them answer the phone the same way they answer their residential phone (because it often is in the rural areas). I always make sure to ask "oh, is this xyz plumbing?' - lots of these businesses go under quickly and the phone number is now owned by someone else and they have no idea what you're talking about.
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  • Brilliant approach, Jason.
    Most thankful for sharing it!

    How it worked for you this January?
  • OK, it's been a couple years since I provided my original audio examples of using the Little Unsure technique.

    What does it sound like today?

    Pretty much the same, so to show you I have put up an example from a couple days ago (no opt-in)

    Click here for the 2014 Little Unsure technique in action!
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  • Gave it a shot yesterday, many more shots to be taken over the course of the next 29 days! I dialed 35 of 40 numbers, had 2 or 3 wrong/out of business; had about 12-13 No answers (these businesses open pretty late in the day, I called early hoping to get DM's/slow business periods), 3-4 machines, 2 DM's, and the rest were either gatekeepers telling me the time to callback or giving me the owners email.

    This is the first time I have dealt with gatekeepers and with this script, they are the sweetest little pies under the sky! I think finding business to call are gonna be my new choke point.

    Out of the 2 DM's I got in contact with, one already implemented SMS marketing, and the other said he was "on a reality TV show so he is good on business". I know, I know, I could have easily explained to him why that should make sms marketing his number 1 priority but I thought about the reply seconds after we ended contact. At least I know for next time. I think Ill call him back up after a bit (I fudged up on the script, i was expecting a GK to answer and when he said he was the DM it threw me off xD).

    Anyway, very nice script! February is gonna be my month!
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    • Good for you for taking action.

      Remember, you cannot control who answers and how many can speak with you today...you can only control your own behaviors (do you make the dials). On Monday you could call and have a dozen conversations.

      Don't try to convince them of anything. Be the messenger. That's it. Somewhere out there are a ton of people who *already believe* that SMS marketeting should be their priority--and they're hoping someone like you will call, because they have no freakin' idea how to implement.

      Best thing is that you've tried it, you've found out just how easy it is to get GKs to help you, and that it's pretty painless.
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  • Hi Jason, just discovered you recently, thank you so much for all the info!

    In your first post in this thread, you ask the DM "is this a bad time", and if no, you proceed with what you do. You later linked to an older video where you make the "contract" by asking for a minute to explain who you are and what you do. Have you found since then that the contract isn't so necessary? Is there a reason you left it out in this thread?

    Thanks!
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    • We are not giving a 30 second commercial here, and it's not the same thing as in the other thread. We're sorting quickly. Up front contracts are better used in situations where you are going to say something longer, and are fishing for "pain". All we're doing here is finding out whether they use outsiders or not, and whether they'll accept your differentiator piece. We aren't getting into a lot of detail. So setting up an up front contract isn't necessary this time.

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