I really need this to work (4 week plan)

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I really need this to work

Right. I've calculated I owe £2,026 and I need to clear this debt reasonably quick. I also need a further £2,000 if I want to clear my over draft. My plan is to sell websites for £300 and £20/mo running cost (I've pulled it off just twice before). So realistically I need to sell 7 websites to clear my immediate debt and go most of the way to clear my overdraft. Doesn't sound too bad actually.

I'm giving myself the simple target of 250-500 cold calls a week (50-100 per day). With a 1% conversion rate I'm looking at 2-3 weeks worth of work here. I already have all the numbers prepared. Even if I did it in four weeks it would be a huge success and I would be looking at making a lot of money per year. But let's not get ahead of ourselves.

I won't be able to start till Thursday or Friday since I'm out of town at the moment. But I'm going to stick to the figures and get back to you guys how I do. May have a few questions myself on the way.

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  • Profile picture of the author mckennabrowny
    Sounds like you got determination, best of luck and reach out if need any help.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    I'd suggest you put walk from business to business with a laptop showing shop owners your work. It's still cold calling but if you can impress them, you've got your foot in the door.
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  • Profile picture of the author its
    Thanks for your support guys.

    It's good advice, travlin. Most of my calls will be aiming to arrange a meeting so I can pop down to their store and show them my work and close the sale.

    If these four weeks go well I'll start expanding to linked in, direct mail and other methods. But right now I'm keeping this simple.
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    • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
      Originally Posted by its View Post

      Thanks for your support guys.

      It's good advice, travlin. Most of my calls will be aiming to arrange a meeting so I can pop down to their store and show them my work and close the sale.

      If these four weeks go well I'll start expanding to linked in, direct mail and other methods. But right now I'm keeping this simple.
      I know from experience that you'll actually get to pitch a lot more people in person. It's easy to put someone off on the phone but when you're right there in front of them they'll often listen. Tell them you're offering some premium for free but they have to decide within 48 hours.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eddie Spangler
    I cant help but think that it will be about as easy to sell
    4 at 525 compared to 7 at 300.

    Then again someone else will say they can sell one at 2100 just as quickly as 7 at 300.

    Have you ever considered that it is your "scrape the bottom of the barrel "mentality that has put you in this financial situation.
    I know that was the case for me in the past and that is why Im mentioning it, not just to you but really for anyone who reads this thread that may also be plagued with "bottom feeditis"
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    • Profile picture of the author its
      Originally Posted by Eddie Spangler View Post

      I cant help but think that it will be about as easy to sell
      4 at 525 compared to 7 at 300.

      Then again someone else will say they can sell one at 2100 just as quickly as 7 at 300.

      Have you ever considered that it is your "scrape the bottom of the barrel "mentality that has put you in this financial situation.
      I know that was the case for me in the past and that is why Im mentioning it, not just to you but really for anyone who reads this thread that may also be plagued with "bottom feeditis"
      You make a really good point. I've number crunched for months and feel this is the price I should charge right now. What I didn't mention is these will be wordpress websites and quick to set up. I will potentially upsell fully customized websites for £500-800 depending on how complex they want it.

      My price right now isn't the cheapest in my area but its also affordable for small businesses and cheaper than others. With the monthly fee I can be pretty sure each website will make me £780 ($1160) - that's averaged from 2 years hosting + setup fee.

      In the future as I build up clients I will work on improving my services and increasing my charge. Also as for my financial situation, I'm 23 and just left university which is why I have this debt from credit cards + lending from parents.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eddie Spangler
    Okay, best success to you.

    It may work out better than expected , especially if you can upsell
    a few people.
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    • Profile picture of the author MRomeo09
      Why not dedicate a little time finding out from your potential clients what they want, and how much they are willing to pay. Here's a sort of script:

      "Hey John, I just need about 60 seconds of your time if you can spare it, I'm not going to sell you anything, I promise. Would that be ok?"

      "Thanks John, John I'm just starting my web design firm here in Birmingham and I'm trying to figure out my marketplace. John if you have a website, could you tell me how much you paid to get it done, and who did it?"

      "Thanks John, that's very helpful. Is that the only time you've gotten a website done? If not, how much, and who?"

      "Thanks John, that's really great. I don't know if you're happy with your website or not, but you probably know someone with a shop here in Birmingham that you think has a very nice website. What do you think would be a fair price to pay for a great website, one that had a blog attached, connected to your facebook and twitter if you have one, looks good on phone, an iPad and a computer. What would you pay for that?"

      "John, thank you so much for your help. It looks like my pricing is right in line with what you've experienced. John, one last question and I can't tell you how much I appreciate you. John, do you happen to know anyone personally who I should call that might be in the marketplace for a website? Maybe your dentist, or your hair salon? Maybe someone who has a website but needs an upgrade?"

      "Would you happen to have a number where I can reach them, and would you mind if I told them you said I could call?"

      "John I appreciate your time, my name is Marcos. If you need anything with your own websites, or you find anyone who does, please call me at xxx-xxxx. Thanks again for your time, you've been very helpful."

      You may get a sale or two from that script, but it's more about getting a feel for what the marketplace will pay. 8 out of 10 companies aren't paying $300 for a website, they are paying more. You can number crunch it all you want, but find out from the marketplace what people are actually paying. I can tell you that it's more than $300 all day long, but until you hear it from others until you prove it to yourself you're not going to get it.

      Call other real companies that do websites, ask them how much they charge. Most are in the $1-5k range more or less. You won't find a real web company that charges $300. You can do this work right now even when not in town. Get on the websites of all of the top 20-30 companies in your area and ask for a free quote for your plumbing company.

      I'm of the opinion it's a lot easier to sell one $2k website than it is to sell 7 $300 ones. I think it's actually easier to close the $2k one. And the types of customers you get with $300 websites, don't even get me started. Once you've established your value, which I don't think is $300, and should most likely be in the $1+k range then you're ready to get down to business.

      You also have to realize this is not the way this business really works, you don't need to cold call to get 7 customers. You probably only need 1 or 2. And then you should hammer them hard to get referrals. Do a bang up job, get the site done in 2-3 days instead of the weeks and months everyone else takes. A quick way to do that is get most of it done, and then schedule an hour late in the day or early in the morning and you sit together and hammer out the last pieces to the website. This avoids those long email exchanges back and forth that take up so much time. And also gives you an excellent opportunity to build value and develop rapport. Then ask them for referrals. Ask them to refer other businesses they know, tell them not to tell their friends how little they paid, as everyone's site is different. And because you're coming in warm not cold you can get paid double for the second site. You can leapfrog from one client to dozens if you concentrate on referrals.
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      • Profile picture of the author savidge4
        I will agree with everything said. Working in a tight geographical market, you have to do your best every time. You need to listen to what every client NEEDS, and produce THAT. Your next job is literally dependent on it. Without referrals you will be continually walking the streets, and that kinda sucks.

        Your price structure is on the short side to say the least. At a minimum double it. By the time you have gotten your 4th client, your price should be in the areas of double from where you started. I always say this is where the economic rule of 'supply and demand' come into play. There is only 1 of you and thousands of them.

        Keep in mind the possibilities of up sale. Mobile specific platform, matching design with their face book account etc., opt-in creation, online store creation, matching social media content pieces, and more. these are far from what you would offer in a low price model. They however can get the final pricing into a place that creates a better cash flow.

        One more thing. In todays market, if it is wordpress or full blown custom html5, it is still a website. in most generic cases there would be no price difference in the 2. So don't think that because your choice of site building is wordpress that it is going to somehow decrease the product / price you can offer.

        Hope that Helps!
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      • Profile picture of the author shivermetimbers
        Originally Posted by MRomeo09 View Post

        Why not dedicate a little time finding out from your potential clients what they want, and how much they are willing to pay. Here's a sort of script:
        I didn't quote the whole script, but I found the content of this post to be really helpful.

        I find that when making cold calls the part I struggle with the most is actually asking the business owner for something, rather than seeking information. I can be really conversational when talking about the business or his thoughts on websites, but once the time comes to set up an appointment or offer a consultation I put them on guard because of my own tenseness and I usually don't get a good response.

        I plan on using not only the script itself but variations of the "market research" theme, as it seems like a very quick way to get a feel for a market, location, and separate the interested businesses from the uninterested.
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  • Profile picture of the author its
    Good advice and will take it on board. Note that I'm from England and talking £'s right here. So I'm not charging $300 dollars but closer to $1300. A lot more if I keep them for years to come. For a templated wordpress it's not much work at all. Like I mentioned I charge more for custom html and I also charge more for social media campaigns etc. I've also already done a fair amount of research on prices. I'm sure after 7-10 customers with my current prices I will make changes. But right now it's about clearing my debt and then moving on from there.

    Thanks for your advice though! Will report back.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew H
    Note that I'm from England and talking £'s right here. So I'm not charging $300 dollars but closer to $1300
    £300 ≠ $1300USD.
    £300 = ~$496USD

    But yeah that sounds about right. My first 3 or 4 websites I charged about that much. Once you have a portfolio built up you can start to charge more. Heres something interesting you will notice: the clients who you charge less will actually be more of a hassle then the ones who you charge more. Presumably because they value your time less.
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    • Profile picture of the author its
      Appreciate the post but like I said with running costs I'm making more than 300 pounds and around the figures I quoted.
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  • Profile picture of the author 7A
    It wouldn't hurt if you threw in a "bonus" of some sort for them when they sign up.
    A fancier theme, some extra consulting or maybe even some customized promo items for them to give away to customers.
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