What is the monthly maintenance for Google+ Local Listings?

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Hi Warriors,

I have been looking for an outsourcer to handle the setup and optimization of Google+ Local listings for my clients. I've looked at a lot of packages. Some of them are very thorough. I am interested in knowing what the ongoing monthly maintenance is for a Google+ Listing? Is it just creating more citations? If so, Is that really work 100 - 200 dollars per month?

Can someone more knowledgeable please enlighten me?

Thanks!
BJ
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  • Profile picture of the author Kung Fu Backlinks
    Hi BJ,

    A good monthly maintenance package should include the following:

    - hunting down bad citations and fixing them
    - creating new citations -> both structured and unstructured
    - quality link building to the site

    The above is bare minimum and should be done only after a thorough analysis of the competition and of the existing citations floating around the net.

    I also want to say that link building does not mean what it usually means here on the forum or on Fiverr (ie: mass-sold packages). If you want great schooling on quality link building, you need to check out source-wave.com. Becker has a monthly thing called infinitum, and offers excellent education on the subject. I know first hand that what he teaches is legit, and serves as an awesome base for professional link building.

    I dare say that you will not find a good monthly service for cheap. If you do, it likely covers a minimal amount of work, and then your results will vary. The service may work great on easy stuff, but you'll be disappointed as soon as you start tackling more competitive stuff.

    Depending on the business, you could be investing hours into fixing bad citations alone (Whitespark offers the service and it is $2,400 (https://www.whitespark.ca/citation-a...ervice#sign-up) - that ought to tell you something).

    Quality links don't come cheap, either. To really do well, you'll need them on high PR sites, and that does not mean sites in these blog networks that are available to anyone with the money. In all seriousness, for best control over your business, you'll want to build your own network.

    My advice is to research this site, consider building your own portfolio of high PR sites and train the right staff to do the citation work. You can find some stellar workers that will cover multiple clients for less than $300 / month. Do that and you'll be building a real sustainable business.

    How to Start Today?

    Of course, none of this helps you if you just need to get started, right? So here's my advice to just get something going quickly:

    1. Grab a subscription to something like Whitespark or Brightlocal.com.
    2. Research your client's citations - both good and bad - start fixing the bad ones yourself, documenting the process for each site (this will be for your staff training manual later).
    3. Research the local sphere to see where you can easily drop links (classified ads, local newspaper directories, etc.)
    4. Grab a Fiverr gig for web 2.0s and start getting some content on them. Here's a hint - hire a local student to write some stuff and encourage this student to link to the content with an online resume or something.
    5. Research existing blogs in the niche and see which ones allow you to drop comments on blog posts.

    Avoid avoid avoid buying any link packages for your money site. Avoiding a penalty is 80% of the game. If you must buy links, buy smaller packages for your web 2.0s or something. Do not let the web 2.0s get spammy, you don't want these accounts closed on you. Cultivating nice web 2.0 blogs, etc. will be a temporary alternative to buying your own high pr domains.

    Hope this helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by Kung Fu Backlinks View Post


      A good monthly maintenance package should include the following:

      - hunting down bad citations and fixing them
      - creating new citations -> both structured and unstructured
      - quality link building to the site
      I agree... except the link building really. I also place a huge amount of importance with on page optimization and CRO(even though I know that doesn't effect your rankings but it increases efficiency.)

      The way most people approach link building for local SEO... heck, even national SEO, is wrong. The way I approach it is building up brand properties, and promoting the website. Maybe a press release here and there, but not for the purpose of link building. For most of my clients I also create different youtube videos on a monthly basis, for the purpose of generating a new link, citation, and an extra spot in the SERPs.

      Also agree on the fiverr statement.
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  • Profile picture of the author bjallen
    Thanks Patrick,

    Do you offer ongoing monthly maintenance packages? I did not see them on your website.

    BJ
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  • Profile picture of the author Kung Fu Backlinks
    Unfortunately, no.

    There is a chance I may offer some of those services in the future, but I have no plans for it now.

    The tricky part is coming up with a pricing model that is easy for customers and allows me to do the right kind of work for each client. Every business is different, requiring a different effort to clean up citations, etc. I still haven't figured out how to offer this service on the WF in a way that doesn't involve custom quotes and hourly rates

    Alternatively, I have been thinking of ways I can support customers by creating some sort of customized infrastructure that can be used for their SEO efforts. But this is still in the planning stages. We'll see
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  • Profile picture of the author bjallen
    I see. So what do you recommend to your customers as a solution for ongoing maintenance after you complete the setup work for them?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kung Fu Backlinks
    Nearly everyone who orders from me have their link building processes in place, so this issue doesn't come up too often. But I would recommend what I stated above

    Where are you with your business at this time? Are you bootstrapping it, or are you prepared to hire and train staff? If you share a bit more of your concerns, maybe I can think of some other stuff that may help you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kung Fu Backlinks
    Awesome points, IAN. And I'm interested in learning some details regarding your "Brand Properties." Have you posted info on this elsewhere?

    On-page SEO is a must and crucial to setting up a proper foundation to ensure any monthly efforts have their full effect.

    Bump on the YouTube suggestion - video citations carry a lot of weight, too.
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  • Profile picture of the author xoziggieox
    If you ever want a Whitespark Local Citation Finder report but don't want to subscribe monthly, I have a Fiverr gig and can run one for you. You can find the gig by searching for Whitespark on Fiverr.
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    • Profile picture of the author bluesteele
      Very much agree with Kung Fu Marketing. I would only add that you should be logging into, and quality checking your Google Local listing. Google is far from perfect, and so often I see people who go months without realizing that Google scraped a trusted source, introduced incorrect data into their database, and amended your listing with said false data. I surely don't have to tell anyone what this can do.

      Likewise, I encourage everyone to do regularly cataloguing of their citations. Like Google, directories scrape directories, and not always do they digest and display information in a favorable fashion. Often times they will get stuff wrong, and then all of a sudden some other directory comes along and scrapes that incorrect data and before you know it...what a mess. A little bit of time spent every month reviewing you citation profile will save you a lot of time and money in the long run.

      Good luck!
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      • Originally Posted by bluesteele View Post

        Very much agree with Kung Fu Marketing. I would only add that you should be logging into, and quality checking your Google Local listing. Google is far from perfect, and so often I see people who go months without realizing that Google scraped a trusted source, introduced incorrect data into their database, and amended your listing with said false data. I surely don't have to tell anyone what this can do.

        Likewise, I encourage everyone to do regularly cataloguing of their citations. Like Google, directories scrape directories, and not always do they digest and display information in a favorable fashion. Often times they will get stuff wrong, and then all of a sudden some other directory comes along and scrapes that incorrect data and before you know it...what a mess. A little bit of time spent every month reviewing you citation profile will save you a lot of time and money in the long run.
        Great points Adam!

        The other important thing to be sure they check and stay on top of is dupes. Dupes kill your rankings.

        I agree with iAmNameLess too.

        In local unless the market is uber competitive backlinks aren't usually needed.
        But REALLY smart on-site LOCAL SEO is needed. And if you are outsourcing to someone that's just building backlinks they are likely doing old school organic SEO and don't really get local. Local SEO is different and doing it well requires more than most old school SEOs realize. Plus these days link building can get you in trouble.

        Our new outsource white label service includes monthly citations (either clean up or building new ones depending on what's needed), on-site SEO work every month, checking of the Places listing for data changes, bugs and dupes and of course white label reporting you can share with client to show the progress. We also do deep analysis before even starting on a client to uncover dupes, old closed listings, NAP problems, violations, dual claimed listings and other problems that can impact ranking.

        I'm not trying to promote our service or anything, just saying that's what we do and what I think it takes to offer an on-going service of value.

        However back when I still personally worked on client listings I was more like Patrick in that I didn't offer maintenance. I just charged $3500 one-time (financed over 3 months) and did everything in the 3 months, with no on-going. Then as problems and bugs came up clients just paid me hourly as needed to fix them.
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