I generate 50 leads per month

Rus Sells

13 years ago

It might help if you share the location these leads are coming from.

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koubain 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Rus Sells

It might help if you share the location these leads are coming from.

From Chicago
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Rus Sells

13 years ago

Question, are you getting leads via opt-in form or via a call tracking number? I don't have any auto glass clients but if you're getting leads that are qualified I'm sure I can find a buyer pretty quickly.

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koubain

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Rus Sells

Question, are you getting leads via opt-in form or via a call tracking number? I don't have any auto glass clients but if you're getting leads that are qualified I'm sure I can find a buyer pretty quickly.

Via call tracking number

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Rus Sells 13 years ago

OK, well if you want to talk further just let me know.

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Via call tracking number
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- koubain 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Rus Sells
  
  OK, well if you want to talk further just let me know.
  
  Yes for sure
  
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  Rus Sells 13 years ago
  
  Requested you on FB.
  
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  Requested you on FB.
  
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xlfutur1

13 years ago

Might be best to just call some auto glass companies and ask if they are taking on new business. Send them leads for a week, then call them back and ask if they would like to get new leads like that every week for X dollars. If you are doing 50 per month, should be fairly easy to sell.

Be prepared though, many will not be interested if you delivered $100 bills every day to their front door step. Nature of the offline beast.

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koubain

13 years ago

Originally Posted by xlfutur1

Might be best to just call some auto glass companies and ask if they are taking on new business. Send them leads for a week, then call them back and ask if they would like to get new leads like that every week for X dollars. If you are doing 50 per month, should be fairly easy to sell.

Be prepared though, many will not be interested if you delivered $100 bills every day to their front door step. Nature of the offline beast.

I do it but they aren't interested

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xlfutur1 13 years ago

Originally Posted by koubain

I do it but they aren't interested

Maybe its time to consider opening up your own auto glass business! With 50 leads coming in per month, that's a great start.

Its amazing how stupid business owners can sometimes be. No wonder so many go OUT of business in the first 5 years.
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AlphaWarrior 13 years ago

Originally Posted by xlfutur1

Be prepared though, many will not be interested if you delivered $100 bills every day to their front door step. Nature of the offline beast.

This is the most true and honest statement that I have seen in a long long time!!
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- DABK 13 years ago
  
  I have been offered such leads, in the mortgage business. I said no.
  
  They talked about number of leads vs cost and future income.
  
  But they did not know a darn thing about our requirements or conversion rates.
  
  I want loans from $200k and up. A $150k loan is perfect for a lot of people. We've decided it's not for us. Unless it's for a property worth over $200k or the borrower has other properties worth over 200k.
  
  We don't want reverse mortgages. We don't want construction loans.
  
  We want commercial loans, but only churches and apartment buildings.
  
  They were offering mortgage leads of all kinds and didn't know how many (percentage wise) were churches or 200k and up.
  
  For all I knew, I'd have to pay 10 years worth of leads to get one like the ones I wanted.
  
  Then, there was the question of trust. Complete stranger calls and I'm supposed to trust. Why?
  
  I turned down an SEO company yesterday too. And they had proof that they could dominate page 1 for several keywords for an area just like mine.
  
  But I wanted 3 hours to decide (do some due diligence). They insisted they could keep the spot open for only 1 hour.
  
  So, I said no.
  
  Originally Posted by AlphaWarrior
  
  This is the most true and honest statement that I have seen in a long long time!!
  
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Huskerdarren

13 years ago

It's a big city. Maybe shoot for an outfit that has multiple locations first.

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sbishop

13 years ago

I'm not sure what service you are using for the number, but when I managed apartments we advertised with the Apartment finder book and website. They did not charge per lead, but every time someone called from their ad we would hear "Another lead from Apartment Finder...Please repeat your greeting."

If you can set up your number to announce the leads then if you point it to someone after a week or two when you call they are going to know who you are!

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LastingLifeSuccess 13 years ago

I like and second the idea of searching out multiple businesses that may be a franchise or chain. The leads can be split up among them. Worth the effort especially in a city as huge as Chicago. Yikes!

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AlphaWarrior

13 years ago

Originally Posted by sbishop

I'm not sure what service you are using for the number, but when I managed apartments we advertised with the Apartment finder book and website. They did not charge per lead, but every time someone called from their ad we would hear "Another lead from Apartment Finder...Please repeat your greeting."

If you can set up your number to announce the leads then if you point it to someone after a week or two when you call they are going to know who you are!

Great idea. I have never heard of this call anouncement idea before.

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xlfutur1 13 years ago

Originally Posted by AlphaWarrior

Great idea. I have never heard of this call anouncement idea before.

Its called a "whisper" message and works great for delivering leads on autopilot.
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- koubain 13 years ago
  
  I forgot to do this yes I forward calls to the BO but I didn't use "whisper"
  
  thanks for the tip warrior
  
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AlphaWarrior

13 years ago

Instead of trying to sell leads and being paid per lead, you may want to consider "renting" your system/method to a business on a monthly basis.

Depending on the facts (price per lead, conversion, profit margins, etc) a business owner may be more inclined to pay you x per month for all leads that your system/method produces than to pay you y per lead with a certain number of the leads not converting.

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koubain

13 years ago

Originally Posted by AlphaWarrior

Instead of trying to sell leads and being paid per lead, you may want to consider "renting" your system/method to a business on a monthly basis.

Depending on the facts (price per lead, conversion, profit margins, etc) a business owner may be more inclined to pay you x per month for all leads that your system/method produces than to pay you y per lead with a certain number of the leads not converting.

The issue is not how o sell leads but how to get this client !!

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bluecoyotemedia

13 years ago

Originally Posted by koubain

The issue is not how o sell leads but how to get this client !!

koubain

ahhhhhh getting clients the magic part of the equation

have you even bothered to attempt to get a client????

Did you not think how you were going to monetize BEFORE you started generating leads.. waiting until the end to come to a forum and asking someone to get you a paying client??

no offense but this is not how you run a buisness

are you in the U.S.???

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koubain

13 years ago

Originally Posted by bluecoyotemedia

koubain

ahhhhhh getting clients the magic part of the equation

have you even bothered to attempt to get a client????

Did you not think how you were going to monetize BEFORE you started generating leads.. waiting until the end to come to a forum and asking someone to get you a paying client??

no offense but this is not how you run a buisness

are you in the U.S.???

No I emailed and called some BO

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shockwave

13 years ago

Ahhhh....the 'ol auto glass leads. I remember when I had two websites pulling in leads for this (and it was for replacement, not repair) via calls and emails - but mainly calls.

As you've discovered, and xlfutur1 has also pointed out, the problem is not getting the leads, its finding someone to buy them. I looked around for Auto Glass affiliate programs too - and there was only one. It paid CHUMP CHANGE for a lead (literally like $0.50 per lead (quote). They were willing to pay a who $8 IF they got the sale :rolleyes:

In the end, I just sold my websites and move on to niches that were willing to pay for leads.

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koubain

13 years ago

Originally Posted by shockwave

Ahhhh....the 'ol auto glass leads. I remember when I had two websites pulling in leads for this (and it was for replacement, not repair) via calls and emails - but mainly calls.

As you've discovered, and xlfutur1 has also pointed out, the problem is not getting the leads, its finding someone to buy them. I looked around for Auto Glass affiliate programs too - and there was only one. It paid CHUMP CHANGE for a lead (literally like $0.50 per lead (quote). They were willing to pay a who $8 IF they got the sale :rolleyes:

In the end, I just sold my websites and move on to niches that were willing to pay for leads.

Where you sold your website in Flippa!!

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shockwave 13 years ago

Originally Posted by koubain

Where you sold your website in Flippa!!

No, I put an ad up on Craigslist.
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- koubain 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by shockwave
  
  No, I put an ad up on Craigslist.
  
  Thanks shockwave I have some good domain names and I want to sell them can I get it done on CL too ??
  
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  shockwave 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by koubain
  
  Thanks shockwave I have some good domain names and I want to sell them can I get it done on CL too ??
  
  You can try. There's no way to say if you'll be successful or not.
  
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  koubain 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by shockwave
  
  You can try. There's no way to say if you'll be successful or not.
  
  Thanks shockwave
  
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Daniel LaRusso

13 years ago

What are some good niches for selling leads?

Originally Posted by shockwave

Ahhhh....the 'ol auto glass leads. I remember when I had two websites pulling in leads for this (and it was for replacement, not repair) via calls and emails - but mainly calls.

As you've discovered, and xlfutur1 has also pointed out, the problem is not getting the leads, its finding someone to buy them. I looked around for Auto Glass affiliate programs too - and there was only one. It paid CHUMP CHANGE for a lead (literally like $0.50 per lead (quote). They were willing to pay a who $8 IF they got the sale :rolleyes:

In the end, I just sold my websites and move on to niches that were willing to pay for leads.

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shockwave

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel LaRusso

What are some good niches for selling leads?

HomeAdvisor - Home Improvement - Select Your Home Improvement Category Below - If you're just getting started in the leadgen game then you might as well take a whack at any of these categories.

If they are selling leads, then somebody is buying.

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koubain

13 years ago

Originally Posted by shockwave

HomeAdvisor - Home Improvement - Select Your Home Improvement Category Below - If you're just getting started in the leadgen game then you might as well take a whack at any of these categories.

If they are selling leads, then somebody is buying.

Yes I know this site thanks

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goharnett 13 years ago

how much do your keywords cost for clicks on google?

that would be a place to cost compare for the worth of your leads.

if you could do this for lawyers, there's a mighty big cost per lead factor

"autoglass"
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AlphaWarrior

13 years ago

Originally Posted by koubain

The issue is not how o sell leads but how to get this client !!

Do you not know that how things are packaged can often make a BIG DIFFERENCE in results? I can easily see where someone may pay you a flat fee each month, but will not pay you on a per lead basis.

If my suggestion is correct, and I am not saying that it is, but if it is correct, then it may be much easier to find and get a buyer for your leads.

BTW, I am sorry that I even made a suggestion. I read your post, but apparently you didn't really consider my reply.

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koubain

13 years ago

Originally Posted by AlphaWarrior

Do you not know that how things are packaged can often make a BIG DIFFERENCE in results? I can easily see where someone may pay you a flat fee each month, but will not pay you on a per lead basis.

If my suggestion is correct, and I am not saying that it is, but if it is correct, then it may be much easier to find and get a buyer for your leads.

BTW, I am sorry that I even made a suggestion. I read your post, but apparently you didn't really consider my reply.

Sorry but I read it

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Doran Peck

13 years ago

Out of curiosity.....are these leads calling you up only to find out that you don't actually repair glass?

What is that conversation like?

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koubain

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Doran Peck

Out of curiosity.....are these leads calling you up only to find out that you don't actually repair glass?

What is that conversation like?

no I forward calls to random Business Owner phone

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Doran Peck

13 years ago

Originally Posted by koubain

no I forward calls to random Business Owner phone

...but is there a conversation?...or is it automatic?

Would there be a way for you to further qualify the leads?...even so much as taking a request for quote from them? This, giving you a measurable value for that given lead. ( kind of as the role of broker....even if it was only until you snag a permanent taker for all your leads)

Do the different local glass companies know that those forwards came from you?...and that you are randomly directing 50 leads amongst their competitors?.

In my opinion it is to your advantage for these glass companies to know who you are and what you are doing, if your goal is to acquire one permanent, or even a consistent set of lead buyers.

Food for thought

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koubain

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Doran Peck

...but is there a conversation?...or is it automatic?

Would there be a way for you to further qualify the leads?...even so much as taking a request for quote from them? This, giving you a measurable value for that given lead. ( kind of as the role of broker....even if it was only until you snag a permanent taker for all your leads)

Do the different local glass companies know that those forwards came from you?...and that you are randomly directing 50 leads amongst their competitors?.

In my opinion it is to your advantage for these glass companies to know who you are and what you are doing, if your goal is to acquire one permanent, or even a consistent set of lead buyers.

Food for thought

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the issue like you said they don't know who I am and who refer those calls to them
I didn't mention to them this but I will do it next time and will see what will happen
Thanks Doran and all warriors

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ezyvirtualassistant 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Doran Peck

Out of curiosity.....are these leads calling you up only to find out that you don't actually repair glass?

What is that conversation like?

yes you might have decided that its auto glass leads.
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SandraLarkin

Banned 13 years ago

Very easy to get rid off. You should look into trying to unload them yourself. You can have an automated business up and running instantly.

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HammerNiko

13 years ago

Create WP adsense site, put the leads there, profit from adsense, rank it, sell it.

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koubain 13 years ago

the video still ranked #1 ON GOOGLE as well as Youtube
if some one can get a client for it we can split the revenue !!
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- Rus Sells 13 years ago
  
  Dude, I called a lot of the auto glass shops in the Chicago area in an effort to help you. A lot of them it appears you had already either emailed or called because they had asked me if we'd already called before.
  
  One owner was kind enough to answer some questions for me and it turns out that a high percentage of the leads they get comes in the form of leads for free from insurance agents / companies and auto dealers.
  
  Additionally the life time value of a single client isn't that much and unless some one is having all the passenger windows and the front and rear windows replaced the average dollar per customer isn't that much. Hell even my BMW 750 windshield only cost me 300 bucks when I had it replaced a couple of years ago.
  
  Out of that 300 bucks, "IF" we could get a shop to pay for leads it isn't going to be more then $10 bucks if that.
  
  I'm still willing to help you but we need to target a higher ticket item.
  
  Originally Posted by koubain
  
  the video still ranked #1 ON GOOGLE as well as Youtube
  if some one can get a client for it we can split the revenue !!
  
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  tarpontim1138 13 years ago
  
  Have you tried to rent your web site for a monthly fee?
  You could offer a GUARANTEE with NO Contract.
  I am sure this would get them to listen.
  Offer to switch your call tracking number to them so they would get EXCLUSIVE leads.
  Tell them it would cost $250 per month with a GUARANTEE they get 25 call average per month or they only pay $10 per call if less then 25.
  Let them know there is NO contract and can stop using at then end of any month.
  You profit margin in auto glass is pretty low and I know they get a lot of leads from insurance companies but since you already have the leads coming in you should try your best to make some money.
  
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CageyVet

13 years ago

So after a quick read of the thread and a look at your video koubain on youtube....here are a few quick things..

First of all, 24 hour auto glass repair is an extremely low price point market with even lower recurring customer value. I just got 3 chips repaired on my new dodge dart for $20 bucks a chip. Even a replacement is only a few hundred bucks. Then there is no reason for me to "really" go back to that business for quite a long time if at all. SO the customer value is quite low.

The second thing is you are targeting such a generalized term that you can not nail down a specific service to target, get leads and get paid for. Since you can not tell if the lead is for a glass chip repair($20 bucks) or a complete wind shield replacement on a Lamborghini (glass costs a minimum of $3500 without the labour)...your leads are not worth more than the lowest customer value.

Lastly, you placed the video onto a personal channel instead of a channel all by itself, so your exit plan is quite limited. You can not even sell the video/channel to a local company because the channel is not branded well and it is not separate from other videos in different niches. IF you would have placed it on a branded channel called Auto Glass Repairs In Chicago, then you could easily have an exit plan to sell the channel plus ranking video to a local business for $500 bucks.

So you can do 1 of 3 things....either sell the leads for $5 bucks a lead since you can only sell at the lowest common denominator for the leads(chip repair) OR you can just do a flat rate of $89, $169 or even maybe $250 a month for a business to lease the video OR you use the video as a stepping stone for SEO/Video marketing for businesses(showcasing your success).

Not much more to say about this since it was not really thought through very well and as a result, it is difficult to "easily" monetize.

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insurpro100

12 years ago

I'm in Chicago do you do this for just auto glass? I'm in life insurance do you do it for that,

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Freebiequeen1999 12 years ago

I think companies with a higher ticket sales will buy leads and pay more...like roofing, kitchen remodeling

I think you should try to find one auto glass place and offer "marketing" to them....brand the site with their name, link it to their site, get paid to oversee...email marketing, update their social media, offer whatever else you can do

Dealing in the real world of small businesses is not as easy as some here would have you think, I agree that many just don't want to spend the money or do not have it. Again a reason to go for higher priced niches.

If you get leads for "oil change" ...by the time the company pays you for the lead they have to add that on....and the guy down the street will undercut them as he is not paying for a lead.

Larger ticket items...yes....smaller? well IMHO better to bundle as marketing, or lease or sell the site totally
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koubain

12 years ago

I am outside US and I don't have good english to talk to biz owner
if some one could help me we can work together
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bjallen 12 years ago

Koubain,

I have a good sales guy who is very accustomed to selling lead gen. He will work for hourly pay or commission. Let me know if you want his contact info, and I will PM it to you.

BJ

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I am outside US and I don't have good english to talk to biz owner
if some one could help me we can work together
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