How To Target Specific Niche Business Owners With Facebook Ads? [Advanced discussion welcome]

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Hi everyone!

Posting this thread today to see if we can get a good discussion going about high level targeting with Facebook Ads.

If you have used Facebook ads previously, you probably know that the targeting options are pretty damn good. However, at times there is still a little left to be desired. Specifically, it's difficult to target a specific niche of business owners - or at least, I find it to be difficult.

Let's use me as an example.

I want to get my ads in front of real estate agents and agencies. Preferably agencies, but agents would still represent a good lead.

What are some ways I can target these groups of people to ensure my ads are getting in front of them, eliminating as much waste as possible?

Within Facebook:
What I have done is target people who have expressed an interest in real estate and things related directly to real estate.

I have targeted people who are owners of small business pages.

And lastly, I have limited it to people in the "Sales" industry.

I feel like all of these options will do a decent job at trying to get my ad in front of the right people. By targeting business owners in the sales industry who have an interest in real estate, I feel I am eliminating a lot of the waste.

However, just because a business owner in the sales industry has an interest in real estate - does not mean they are an agent or agency.

I don't know how to target any deeper than this within Facebooks targeting options?

Using external information to build a custom audience:
This now brings me to my next point.

There are some alternatives such as scraping emails and phone numbers from real estate websites and them adding them as a custom audience - and serving ads to only those people.

This pretty much guarantees that my ads are going to highly targeted prospects.

There are also Facebook user ID scrapers, so I can scrape related groups or fan pages and serve ads to them - again, should be more targeted than the built in Facebook options.



I am wondering - have I missed something here? Is there more targeting I can do within Facebook to get a better target audience? Or have I done as much as I can?

Also, outside of Facebook, have I missed any creative ways of targeting my ideal prospects?


Looking forward to a (hopefully) great discussion!
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  • Profile picture of the author ADukes81
    You're on the right track, I would add in more "layers" to your targeting. Things such as Income, Net worth, relationship status, location, Parents, etc. Target associations as they typically are in the industry and if you're targeting small business owners, you'd expect there's a pretty good chance that's your market.

    I was using UID scrapers and was getting leads for about $5/each, but now that Facebook has cracked down on it, I don't use CA anymore. It makes things more difficult, but we're marketers -- get creative.

    A lot of testing and failing. A lot of failing.
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  • Profile picture of the author partyfavor
    You are definitely on the right track!
    And taking what ADukes said, create a buyer a 'buyer persona' so you know a ton about your target, and with that info you can target w FB ads easier.

    Test fail and tweak!
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    • Profile picture of the author krzysiek
      Originally Posted by ADukes81 View Post

      You're on the right track, I would add in more "layers" to your targeting. Things such as Income, Net worth, relationship status, location, Parents, etc. Target associations as they typically are in the industry and if you're targeting small business owners, you'd expect there's a pretty good chance that's your market.

      I was using UID scrapers and was getting leads for about $5/each, but now that Facebook has cracked down on it, I don't use CA anymore. It makes things more difficult, but we're marketers -- get creative.

      A lot of testing and failing. A lot of failing.
      Hey, thanks for the reply!

      Unfortunately in Australia I do not think we have the added targeting options like income, network, etc. I can definitely target by relationship status but this is not something I have done yet.

      I figure the owner of a real estate Facebook page is probably married but I'm not yet sure if this is the best assumption to make.

      In regards to the UID scraping. You say Facebook has cracked down on it. From my understanding, this has always been the case - but perhaps you mean in recent times they are a lot tougher?

      Can you talk more about what you mean, specifically? Any things I should or should not do? I have not yet experimented with scraping UID's and targeting them (but I am thinking of doing so in the next few days). Maybe you know something that might teach me a lesson I could otherwise learn from you!

      I did have a thought of concealing the CA but extracting UID's from your target market - but then adding a bunch of non related UID's into the same CA by scraping UID's from a different country. Then import the CA but within Facebook target the country of where your prospects are. That way your CA isn't so "obviously" scraped because it contains a lot of "noise" - but in the end you filter that out with Facebooks built in targeting of countries.

      Anyway, that might not even be related to what the problem is. Just a suggestion or thought for you.

      Interested in hearing more! Thanks!

      Originally Posted by partyfavor View Post

      You are definitely on the right track!
      And taking what ADukes said, create a buyer a 'buyer persona' so you know a ton about your target, and with that info you can target w FB ads easier.

      Test fail and tweak!
      Yep, for sure. All about testing and tweaking. I am just trying to avoid failing too much and getting some results without spending a whole lot on "learning"!
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      • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
        Search for the leading gurus in the industry and get their followers id's out and run them through the Power Editor.

        I've come up with these names...
        Aaron Sansoni, Glenn Twiddle, Aaron Sansoni, Tom Panos.

        In future look for events and associations.

        Off Facebook buy/rent lists.

        Here's one here...List of Real Estate Agents in Australia.

        Load the phone numbers into the Power Editor and you've got your target list to run your ads.

        Then retarget those that visit your page, but don't take your required next step,
        by having your ads following them over the internet. Essentially you'll end up with 2 lists to
        run different campaigns to until the end of time.

        Browser scrapers are the dodgy ones.

        Desktop extractors using Facebook's developers API are fine.

        Best,
        Ewen
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    • Profile picture of the author krzysiek
      Originally Posted by ewenmack View Post

      Search for the leading gurus in the industry and get their followers id's out and run them through the Power Editor.

      I've come up with these names...
      Aaron Sansoni, Glenn Twiddle, Aaron Sansoni, Tom Panos.

      In future look for events and associations.

      Off Facebook buy/rent lists.

      Here's one here...List of Real Estate Agents in Australia.

      Load the phone numbers into the Power Editor and you've got your target list to run your ads.

      Then retarget those that visit your page, but don't take your required next step,
      by having your ads following them over the internet. Essentially you'll end up with 2 lists to
      run different campaigns to until the end of time.

      Browser scrapers are the dodgy ones.

      Desktop extractors using Facebook's developers API are fine.

      Best,
      Ewen
      Ewen thanks so much! Did not know you were so well versed in Facebook Ads..!

      I have taken down all of your notes. I will be checking out that RE list see if I can get that going!

      What interested me most though was your comment about a Desktop software using the FB API to gather UID's.

      Do you have a name for that software?

      I have found one but I am pretty sure it is not the one you'd be referring to, as the one that I have barely works (have not been able to get it to work without crashing).

      Thanks a lot Ewen!!


      Originally Posted by Jennifernk View Post

      I have a Face Book marketing E-Book that you can have for free... Click Here to get it
      No thank you...
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      • Krzysiek,

        We use Social Lead Freak, which is a desktop program that allows us to gather member UIDs of niche-relevant Facebook groups. We also use this desktop software to gather UIDs of Facebook users who have participated in niche-related events / activities posted in Facebook.

        We on the other hand use a custom inhouse software that we created to gather fan UIDs of niche-relevant Facebook pages. We developed this tool because we couldn't find anything similar in the market, and despite our best efforts, our inhouse tool is only limited to 120 fan UIDs per Facebook page. Since it's an inhouse tool, we aren't selling this custom software...
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  • Profile picture of the author borngreat007
    Check out facesniper, they have a pretty good Graph search targeting feature, where you can search (using chrome browser) for example " real estate agents from Australia " it will return the exact match for that target and you can then scrap the UID with a single click of a button..
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  • Profile picture of the author krzysiek
    Hey Borngreat!

    I have Facesniper already, was just seeing if there was a desktop version of some program that I have not yet come across!
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    • Profile picture of the author borngreat007
      Originally Posted by krzysiek View Post

      Hey Borngreat!

      I have Facesniper already, was just seeing if there was a desktop version of some program that I have not yet come across!
      In that case you have all your need to micro target with razor thin focus..
      this blog post will explain how Graph Search Targeting with Facesniper | Facesniper
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