A "pissing match"........

+1 for this idea.

I see the thinking, but is there any reason these business model posts can't just be in this one? I hate clicking around different forums cos I'm lazy ... lol

What the forum members want, as evidenced by their questions, is the fast answer.

How do I make money quickly? That's what they want to know.

Most don't think about business models until much later. I can tell you it's 2-1/2 years into this incarnation of my business, and I've only been really working on it for the past 6 months. Mind you, a year of that was tied up working in one of those senior management roles and doing this part time.

Go back to "What are people actually asking about?" They aren't asking about business models. Most aren't even interested in that long post I wrote about my thinking over the past 6 months. They'd rather see some fancy new close.

And as for me, I remain consistent. I do sales training and copywriting. That's what I do. Most people on this forum are not qualified to become my clients. They don't have an existing, profitable business model because they don't know how to consistently attract prospects, process them, and fulfill client orders competently. There's no operation to improve. But hey, offer a couple business models as thread starters here and see what the members do with them. The proof is in the pudding, not our opinions.

I think this is an idea worth considering. I too, am at a point in my business where I am focusing on systematizing more elements of the business. As my business grows, in order to keep my sanity, and avoid burn out, I'm realizing I need to do this.

Maybe an intermediate/advance offline section or Business Model section would be good. There are things that I'm sure others have gone through that would be beneficial to me, and vise versa.

There are many here in this forum who contribute great ideas, thoughts and information, but the same old questions do get old. Especially, to those of us who have been around a while.

To have a place where we could discuss systems and biz models on a more advanced level would be refreshing.

It's sometimes difficult as a business owner going it alone, it's nice to have this forum for new ideas, clarity on old ideas, and a place for motivation when I've had a 'not so good day'. This place used to provide that regularly, now not so much. I realize part of that is my fault, I don't contribute as much as I should. I've gotten a lot out of this place, I should pay it forward more.

Again,Ben your idea is definitely worth 'the powers that be' considering.

I'm not entirely against the idea but the problem is when you add more forums you sacrifice activity. We will see that in the next couple months from the main forums. Adding subforums will have the same effect except in certain areas and circumstances.

I think we all have our preferred topics, but the reason for so much activity here in topics we aren't necessarily gung ho about, is because of curiosity and different views.

There's always going to be conflict in certain threads, but sometimes conflict is good for the community and allows people to see multiple points on opposite sides.

People come here for different reasons, wanting to learn different things and often times learn more than they planned on topics they never really thought about before. I know that's been the case for me and many others. I hope it stays that way.

It was pretty frustrating when I took great care to not promote anything in my original 9x12 thread but it still got locked for 'sucking too much air out of the forum'. I think the offline subforum would benefit from having some sticky threads devoted to working business models that have been proven. It would be a tremendous asset.

Everyone wants a model they can start from scratch and see success with. Having lots of discussion doesn't hurt the forum, it helps it. Why starve the forum of it or let it get buried too deep?

I think stickied threads would be a much better solution than opening a whole new subforum. I think 4 or 5 sticky threads at the top would help a lot.

I agree with most of the people here.

I find that it can be quite the good investment to create that sub forum because it could have several areas where offline business marketers teach different things specific to their level; newbie, intermediate, and advanced areas.

I definitely agree though with iAmNameLess because this part of the forum has already grown, and I don't think that there is any need really to go on separating the offline forum with another subforum. But, whatever the WF decides to do, it shouldn't be a problem. Advice is advice....regardless of where it is coming from.

THUMBS UP!