Best Ad Network For CPA Offers - Lost 700$ In Advertising.

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Hi Guys,

I am a beginner in CPA marketing and i have used facebook, adwords, bing for promoting cpa offers but none of them converted, i tested different offers but everything was a failure.

I need urgent help from you guys, i have already lost 700$ in advertising and i stopped using ad networks. Is there any other traffic methods other than ad networks?

What about 7search ? can it be used to promote any CPA offers ? I am a bit paranoid now, i saw reviews of 7search on various websites saying that it is sending bot traffic.

Anyone had success with 7 Search?

I would also like to use contextual ad networks , anyone with good experience please help.
#7 search #ad networks #adwords #bing #facebook ads
  • Profile picture of the author online4cash
    Originally Posted by macwarren View Post

    Hi Guys,

    I am a beginner in CPA marketing and i have used facebook, adwords, bing for promoting cpa offers but none of them converted, i tested different offers but everything was a failure.

    I need urgent help from you guys, i have already lost 700$ in advertising and i stopped using ad networks. Is there any other traffic methods other than ad networks?

    What about 7search ? can it be used to promote any CPA offers ? I am a bit paranoid now, i saw reviews of 7search on various websites saying that it is sending bot traffic.

    Anyone had success with 7 Search?

    I would also like to use contextual ad networks , anyone with good experience please help.
    it's depend on the niche you are working with??
    Please specify the niche first before get response from difference guys!!
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Hi macwarren,

      Trying different networks isn't likely to be the answer to your problem. It is most likely that your failure is due to improper implementation, not an issue with your selected channel.

      Regardless of which network you go with, success depends upon how well you execute your marketing plan, and how well you have chosen your strategy. It takes hundreds of hours to learn how to run a proper PPC campaign. Developing and tweaking your marketing plan can take much time as well. Switching networks is just going to lengthen the learning curve, not shorten it.

      There is a lot more to managing a PPC campaign then simply setting up some ads and hoping they make you money. Since you have ran several campaigns already, you should have some data gathered. Have you gathered enough data to make actionable adjustments? What insights have you gained from your data?

      Does the process you have in place now allow you to test, analyze results, gain insights, make improvements based on those insights and repeat that cycle over and over? If not, this is what you should seek first, switching networks isn't the answer.
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      • Profile picture of the author macwarren
        Originally Posted by dburk View Post

        Hi macwarren,

        Trying different networks isn't likely to be the answer to your problem. It is most likely that your failure is due to improper implementation, not an issue with your selected channel.

        Regardless of which network you go with, success depends upon how well you execute your marketing plan, and how well you have chosen your strategy. It takes hundreds of hours o learn how to run a proper PPC campaign. Developing and tweaking your marking plan can take much time as well.Switching networks is just going to lengthen the learning curve, not shorten it.

        There is a lot more to managing a PPC campaign then simply setting up some ads and hoping they make you money. Since you have ran several campaigns already, you should have some data gathered. Have you gathered enough data to make actionable adjustments? What insights have you gained from your data?

        Does the process you have in place now allow you to test, analyze results, gain insights, make improvements based on those insights and repeat that cycle over and over? If not, this is what you should seek first, switching networks isn't the answer.
        Could you please explain it with an example , lets take the " 1000$ visa gift card giveaway" offer , what strategy should i use to get better results? I don't have another 1000$ to spend on ads to test the offer and i don't have any idea to do that.
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        • Profile picture of the author naser224u
          You are not serious, are you? Loosing 700 USD and not making any conversion is my worst nightmare. You should have gathered enough data in your first 50s. Didn't you enable tracking of your campaigns through Prosper202 or any other source?

          Anyway dude, what is lost cannot be regained. First of all, focus on the data. Try to learn what websites or publishers sent you the traffic and block the ones which aren't converting. And about 7search, yes the traffic quality is crap. I lost my $50 at 7search and I immediately stopped using them.

          Read the case studies and try to improve your strategy. Subscribe to some good blogs like Luke PeerFly and Mr. Green.

          Hope that helps.

          Originally Posted by macwarren View Post

          Could you please explain it with an example , lets take the " 1000$ visa gift card giveaway" offer , what strategy should i use to get better results? I don't have another 1000$ to spend on ads to test the offer and i don't have any idea to do that.
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        • Profile picture of the author dburk
          Originally Posted by macwarren View Post

          Could you please explain it with an example , lets take the " 1000$ visa gift card giveaway" offer , what strategy should i use to get better results? I don't have another 1000$ to spend on ads to test the offer and i don't have any idea to do that.
          Hi macwarren,

          Marketing when done correctly is all about testing, but not just random testing, you need to setup tests with very specific objectives in mind. If you had done that to begin with then you would now have $700 worth of marketing insights, which even without any sales could still be of great value going forward. Depending on how you setup and tracked that $700 ad spend you might actually be sitting on some useful data even now.

          The first thing I recommend that you do is to analyze the data that you already have and try to find some insights within that data that will help you move forward in your marketing goals.

          If your initial campaigns were setup correctly you will have data on various market segments, as well as various value propositions, various headlines, CTAs, etc. Even though you have no sales, you will still have stats on CTRs and engagement activities. That data can give you insight into what your target audience responds to and what they do not respond to.

          If interest and engagement is low, generally conversion rates will also be low. High conversion rates are almost always preceded by high levels of interest and engagement. The data you have now will point to the market segments and value propositions with the highest interest and engagement metrics. That data will give you valuable clues as to what your targeted audience is interested in and likely to responding to favorably. Use that data to setup your next round of testing with the express purpose of driving interest and engagement to the point of winning conversions.

          To use an analogy, think of your data as puzzle pieces. Your goal is to solve the puzzle by putting together enough of the pieces to understand what your audience needs before they are willing to do business with you. If you have only one puzzle piece there isn't anything to match that piece to, not much to help you solve the overall puzzle. As you gain more pieces of the puzzle the big picture will become clearer.

          When setting up your tests, try to gather information on as many pieces of the puzzle as possible. The more pieces of the puzzle you have the more of the puzzle you can solve. You need to get granular in your testing so that you gain enough pieces to solve the marketing puzzle. I hope that makes sense, and helps to steer you in the right direction.

          The main point being don't just advertise, setup you campaigns as tests using segmentation in both your targeting and in your message, to gather metrics that bring insights into your customers' behavior. Each insight is a piece of the puzzle of exactly what your audience needs from you before they will part with their hard earned cash.
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    • Profile picture of the author macwarren
      Originally Posted by online4cash View Post

      it's depend on the niche you are working with??
      Please specify the niche first before get response from difference guys!!
      I tried different niche, dating niche on Facebook , email submit offers using banners on bing and adwords, software download offers on Facebook etc although everything got impressions i had very low ctr like 0.03 to 0.07 and from there i quit using Facebook. Bing had good CTR than Facebook but i didn't get any lead.

      I think the CPA network Maxbounty is cheating because there is no way for us to make sure the user had completed a signup offer. The pixels and trackbacks doesn't guarantee this.

      Did you succeed in CPA marketing? How much money did you spend on advertising to test offers? Do you have any successful campaign you would like to share?
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  • Profile picture of the author Badassbro
    Originally Posted by macwarren View Post

    Hi Guys,

    I am a beginner in CPA marketing and i have used facebook, adwords, bing for promoting cpa offers but none of them converted, i tested different offers but everything was a failure.

    I need urgent help from you guys, i have already lost 700$ in advertising and i stopped using ad networks. Is there any other traffic methods other than ad networks?

    What about 7search ? can it be used to promote any CPA offers ? I am a bit paranoid now, i saw reviews of 7search on various websites saying that it is sending bot traffic.

    Anyone had success with 7 Search?

    I would also like to use contextual ad networks , anyone with good experience please help.

    Your whole mindest seems completely wrong..

    What does it mean "you've already lost $700 in advertising"...

    Depending on how well you did your planning and on what goals you've had with your
    campaing you should have gathered valuable data.. You now KNOW what doesn't work..

    You didn't lose any money.. you paid for data..

    You can't just take $700 bucks throw it somewhere and see where it sticks..

    You need a strategy..

    What did you learn from spending those $700, that is the question.. how closer are you now to your desired outcome?
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    • Profile picture of the author macwarren
      Originally Posted by Badassbro View Post

      Your whole mindest seems completely wrong..

      What does it mean "you've already lost $700 in advertising"...

      Depending on how well you did your planning and on what goals you've had with your
      campaing you should have gathered valuable data.. You now KNOW what doesn't work..

      You didn't lose any money.. you paid for data..

      You can't just take $700 bucks throw it somewhere and see where it sticks..

      You need a strategy..

      What did you learn from spending those $700, that is the question.. how closer are you now to your desired outcome?
      Everyone keeps on telling me about strategy, could you please help me with an example or an offer that you have successfully promoted.
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  • Profile picture of the author macwarren
    Another than selling WSO products, is anyone here on Warrior Forum successful in promoting CPA offers who make 1000$ per month from it?
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  • Profile picture of the author swb338
    Originally Posted by macwarren View Post

    Hi Guys,

    I am a beginner in CPA marketing and i have used facebook, adwords, bing for promoting cpa offers but none of them converted, i tested different offers but everything was a failure.

    I need urgent help from you guys, i have already lost 700$ in advertising and i stopped using ad networks. Is there any other traffic methods other than ad networks?

    What about 7search ? can it be used to promote any CPA offers ? I am a bit paranoid now, i saw reviews of 7search on various websites saying that it is sending bot traffic.

    Anyone had success with 7 Search?

    I would also like to use contextual ad networks , anyone with good experience please help.
    Hi macwarren,

    I had no success at all with 7 Search, Clicksor or DNTX.

    I did have success for about 5 months with Bing Ads promoting Peerfly CPA offers and Clickbank products.

    The most important thing you need to do is learn how to track when people click on your ads. This generates statistics that you can use to adjust your bids. You should look at the statistics for your keyword phrases and for your ad copy.

    It's mathematics and ratios. You pay a certain amount with Bing per click ($CPC). Out of each click, a certain percentage will convert (CR%). Most affiliate programs and CPA networks report your earnings per click (EPC).

    If your CPC x CR < EPC, you are making some amount of profit. If not, you're losing money.

    If you're making a large profit on a small number of conversions, you may want to experiment with raising your bid to get a higher ranking.

    If you're losing money or your margin isn't what you'd like it to be, you should back off and lower your bid to get your cost per click down. If you can't make a profit at the 5 cent minimum bid, you should suspend the keyword.

    Some of the more advanced PPC professionals use programs like Prosper202, but there are ways to simply post a script from Bing Ads in your Peerfly offers and Clickbank account that will send the tracking information back to Bing.

    Here's a link to Clickbank's guide to setting up tracking for AdWords and Bing:
    https://support.clickbank.com/entrie...ales-Reporting

    There are several good training programs in Warrior Forum that teach you how to set up Prosper202 and direct link from Bing to CPA and affiliate offers.

    A cautionary note: I mentioned I "had" success.

    Bing has been refining an algorithm for "suggesting" keywords to advertisers along with minimum recommended bids. I suspect this isn't some form of helpful AI, but is simply stealing keyword and bid information from other marketers, suggesting slightly higher bids, and orchestrating a bidding war that eventually wipes out your profit margin.
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  • Profile picture of the author Carlos Stratton
    Totally agree with Badassbro!
    You spend $700 but now you should think what you learned. Also try to learn how to optimize your ads, It's important.

    Don't forget to be aware of 7search. Not scam but very low quality of clicks. Tried it about 9 months ago to promote email submit offers. My affiliate manager emailed me to stop sending clicks, because your leads are very low quality and didn't convert!

    Good Luck
    Carlos
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  • Profile picture of the author svetod
    The conclusion is that the problem is not in the platform or niche, but your expertise. I think you should pick a product/niche, concentration one platform first - I would suggest Adwords, later Bing - and trying to really master it before going on with anything else. It's also a good idea to find a mentor who could guide you or follow some blogs to try to get more insights into the business.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author solarwarrior
    One niche, One advertising platform can have a large variety of keywords, adcopy and landers.

    Have you tried all of them before jumping to other platform?

    No one will give you a working campaign, cause it will drive cpc up.

    Stay focus if you want to succeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Almobi
    The real problem is the way you testing your campaign,not the NETWORK! first you shall analysis your failure,gather DATAs then you will see what you did wrong ,also knowing what you did and how you did during the process is important.So can you share me your experience?
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