7 search PPC - 7 search and CPA Pay Per Click

29 replies
  • PPC/SEM
  • |
Hey Guys,

A while ago I was using 7search search with little to no results.

about a year ago I switched to other traffic sources and I am now making a full time cpa income.

About a year ago I really wanted 7search pay per click to work, bring in any results or profits as I lost a tone of money and thought my marketing skills sucked.

So yesterday I was going to deposit some more cash into my old 7search account

to see if the ppc traffic quality had gotten any better or if it was still mostly junk.

I was hopeful but then I read this article and it sort of opened my eyes a bit about 7 search with an in-depth review.

7Search.com Advertising Experiment- The Results Sucked

Thanks to Michael G Keating.

You saved me tones of time and cash.

PS: I am not saying 7search is purely junk traffic or bot traffic, I am just showing you my own personal experience compared to other traffic sources.

I wish all of you the best of luck in your marketing efforts, Good luck over the holidays and New Year!

Owen

Wish I had spent my money more wisely :
#7 search #7search #click #cpa #pay #ppc #search
  • Profile picture of the author cTory
    Wow, lots of users seem to have bad experience with Buzzcity and 7search. If someone could tell us marketers, what 7search is good for? I sorry to hear about your experience. Since you got that budget, you could deal with solo ads (or you might already know). But don't go to any dealer with solo ads, you should see reviews on Facebook first. What kind of traffic do you use now? I'm thinking of starting Adwords. I just got $25 credit from Fiverr, seem like I made a big mistake. I just wasted $50 on Facebook Ads, but I didn't know what I was doing.

    I might give up on cost-per-action, ClickBank, CommissionJunction, all forms of affiliate marketing next year and go back to selling electronics on ecommerce. I am tired of wasting time and money. I don't even know what to do. The only luck I had online for the past 4 years was selling electronics and flipping websites. If I can't find no other way out, then that's all I am going to do for now.

    If I got my money back from every product I wasted online, I would have $3,603.12 right now. lol
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9739594].message }}
  • It's all about how to use a tool properly. If you try to cut wood with a hammer, you won't get the results you expect just as you won't get results you expect if you try to hammer a nail with a saw.

    I'm sure you can get good traffic with 7search if it is used correctly. Keating mentions 3 programs and from his definitions and the data he shows, it seems he used the first one. I've never used 7search but it appears it's Adwords equivalent of their display network using keywords. His stats certainly suggests that.

    Google's targeting methods in my opinion has a lot left to be desired so I don't expect others to be better as I consider Google to be the best. The impressions he got was an awful lot so I think that his campaign was not very targeted. Of course, I don't know the niche but whatever it is, it is a lot.

    About comparing the numbers with Analytics, there's many thread here explaining why that is. In short, you can't easily compare the two. A click is not a visit.

    Bounce rate is not a number I put a lot a weight to. However, it points to his keywords not being well targeted. He even says paid advertisement is supposed to be more targeted but that just isn't the case if you use a saw to hammer in a nail.

    As mentioned in these forums before as well, it's one thing to bring traffic in (even qualified traffic which Keating doesn't appear to have done), it's another to convert it. We don't know what the landing page was. For all we know, it was terrible.

    His conclusions IMO are all wrong. He just did not use the tool correctly and I believe his results would be the same doing so on Google, Bing or other networks.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9741225].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author owen2012
      Originally Posted by LucidWebMarketing View Post

      It's all about how to use a tool properly. If you try to cut wood with a hammer, you won't get the results you expect just as you won't get results you expect if you try to hammer a nail with a saw.

      I'm sure you can get good traffic with 7search if it is used correctly. Keating mentions 3 programs and from his definitions and the data he shows, it seems he used the first one. I've never used 7search but it appears it's Adwords equivalent of their display network using keywords. His stats certainly suggests that.

      Google's targeting methods in my opinion has a lot left to be desired so I don't expect others to be better as I consider Google to be the best. The impressions he got was an awful lot so I think that his campaign was not very targeted. Of course, I don't know the niche but whatever it is, it is a lot.

      About comparing the numbers with Analytics, there's many thread here explaining why that is. In short, you can't easily compare the two. A click is not a visit.

      Bounce rate is not a number I put a lot a weight to. However, it points to his keywords not being well targeted. He even says paid advertisement is supposed to be more targeted but that just isn't the case if you use a saw to hammer in a nail.

      As mentioned in these forums before as well, it's one thing to bring traffic in (even qualified traffic which Keating doesn't appear to have done), it's another to convert it. We don't know what the landing page was. For all we know, it was terrible.

      His conclusions IMO are all wrong. He just did not use the tool correctly and I believe his results would be the same doing so on Google, Bing or other networks.

      Incorrect my friend.

      First, try spending some money with 7search yourself before talking it up compared to Adwords or Bing.

      QUOTE=LucidWebMarketing "I've never used 7search but it appears it's Adwords equivalent of their display network using keywords."


      LucidWebMarketing, you clearly have never marketed or advertised with 7search so your opinion is negligible and from my personal experience you are factually incorrect.

      I have spend over $3000 with 7search and I have spend over $100,000 online with other paid traffic sourced.

      Why even bother commenting on this thread and defending 7search when you have never run traffic with them.

      There are allot of people on this forum that know jack about a topic and decide to spread misinformation.

      I respect your right to your opinion LucidWebMarketing, but disagree with you:

      "I'm sure you can get good traffic with 7search if it is used correctly."

      then you go onto say:

      "I've never used 7search but it appears it's Adwords equivalent"

      So basically your are just speculating.

      I have run traffic with Bing, Adwords and 7search.

      Nothing personal LucidWebMarketing, but I would like people to have a clear cut view of when they are throwing money down the toilet, because that $3000 I wasted on 7search (my own fault) should be a red flag to other newbies who get sucked into this trap.

      If you are a newbie ppc marketer, read this thread again.

      Owen
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9742800].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author abuziyad3
    Thanks to share with us this helpful information,

    1- What do advice to use for PPC for CPA offers ?
    2- Is google adword safe to get traffic to squeeze page ?
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9743073].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author owen2012
      Originally Posted by abuziyad3 View Post

      Thanks to share with us this helpful information,

      1- What do advice to use for PPC for CPA offers ?
      2- Is google adword safe to get traffic to squeeze page ?
      Adwords is only good for really quality offers. (not email submits)

      I recommend Facebook Ads, but there is tones to learn, so don't ever expect quick money until you finish the learning curve.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9745421].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author naser224u
    God, I am grieving because I lost $75 to 7Search but seeing your losses, I can only imagine how you feel. Read my experience here: http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...xperience.html
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9743597].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author sifcom
    @Owen , thanks so much for this threat , you are absolutely right , i have tried 7search for quite time , almost tried every thing , clickbank offers , gaming , CPA offers , with no results .
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9755106].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author owen2012
      Originally Posted by sifcom View Post

      @Owen , thanks so much for this threat , you are absolutely right , i have tried 7search for quite time , almost tried every thing , clickbank offers , gaming , CPA offers , with no results .
      Cheers

      How much did you spend sifcom?
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9759929].message }}
  • {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9766316].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author owen2012
      Originally Posted by PPC-Coach View Post

      His niche doesn't work on 7search.

      What niches work on 7search, coach?
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9776737].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Augustinus
    I personally spend around 50 usd on 7 search and 1,8 made back . I must say that results do not fullfil my expectations . For now i dont do ppc with 7 seach
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9767461].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author owen2012
      Augustinus, Have you tried facebook or Bing Ads?
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9773922].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author zeus136
    If the product you are selling is in demand and it is priced correctly and you have a professional looking webdesign and order processing, then pay per click traffic will convert.

    If its an unprofessional looking site selling overpriced digital information then no amount of paid traffic regardless of source will convert.

    Zeus
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9777718].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author PaidAllDay
    7 Search will work if you are in the right niche but you may have to eliminate the bad targets that aren't resulting in conversions. Unlike Bing or Google you can't set to advertise on one search network you are advertising on hundreds of smaller ones. Also as mentioned it only works in certain niches. I would say anything where the traffic quality doesn't have to be too high. Games, Trivia, Surveys, things like that but I've even had some success with a few clickbank products too. Search for info about advertising on 7 search there are some good resources.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9778522].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author reln
    I used 7search for a couple of months in the summer and found it frustrating. You really need to be on top of the bad targets. If you are using Prosper202 or similar tracking tool you could review the list of SubIDs (c1, c2) to add to 7search exclusion list.

    The SubIDs look something like this:
    64436-n27584
    64436-n28531

    To find this list in Prosper202 do the following:
    1. Click on the "Overview" tab
    2. Select "Group Overview"
    3. Choose 7search for PPC Account
    4. Go to the Group By drop down list and select c1, Then Group By: c2, Then Group By: Referrers to see the URLs under the SubIDs.

    Once you have the list of SubIDs and bad URLs under them you could determine which ones to block. Copy the SubIDs and paste them into the 7Search Block SubIDs list.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9778708].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author PaidAllDay
      [DELETED]
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9779860].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author owen2012
        Sorry, I was wrong, You can make money with 7search

        7Search Referral Program for Affiliates - 7Search


        For all those who love 7search, I can understand Why

        When a new advertiser registers after clicking from your site you will earn 10% of that new advertiser's expenditures for one year. This referral level is ideal for those with an existing audience of website owners and online marketers that are looking for additional website traffic
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9780332].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author lrs1995
    Gotta love 7Search bash up threads to keep competition away!
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9778828].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author WindyPRib
    Bid management in PPC is the type of management where the bidder manage the cost of PPC and adds clicks. Bid management is useful to manage PPC and cpc cost and price.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9799568].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Mahmoud Selman
    Thank you for sharing your experience owen2012, I wonder what made you go so long with 7search. With this budget you could use much better advertising platforms.
    I hope it's going better for you now.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9799893].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author debbychisha
    7search is good only for webmaster to make money not for advertisers to make profit
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9800366].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author n3o
    i think 7search is now leveraging clicksor ad network
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9801509].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author BacklinksPlus
    Just depends on what your offer is, I have seen it work for some, right now I prefer bing and Google pla
    Signature
    Venom Software
    Craigslist lead scraper mailer/Linkedin Bot
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9803138].message }}
  • It depends on the offer.

    7Search is a great source of leads for me.

    We need targeting, and precise targeting
    Signature

    [CENTER][B]==> Do you want to make money online? [/B]
    Free video: How regular people are making 6-figures per month on the internet! [URL="http://www.clkmg.com/fc27/UDCL-IN2WF"][B]Watch this free video now![/B][/URL] <==[/CENTER]

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9813626].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author totalyrecycled12
      I have also tried 7 search with mixed results so far over the last 3 years i have spent $990 AU I have made aproximatly $450 Au back from clickbank products . I think the result was ok since i had no experiance and I was direct linking to afiliate products (my choice of products may have also bneen a lot do do with poor results but like i said I was a total newbie to it back then

      . It is a good network to target individual key words and you can set up a campain then make individual adds for each key word and also send eacch individual key word to a differant offer so you can see that some times a key word is getting a lot of tafic but no sales so you can leave that keyword active and the add that it is linked to active and just change the offer it links to . so ios good for doing small scale trials to see if a product works .Y

      you can also get your price rright down to 1cent per click on differant key words. and you can target individual countries --- the down side is most of the traffic i seened to get was from redirects and bots probaly about 50 percent or more once i learnt to use google analytics .But if you want to just learn about doing ppc then it is a good place to start as you can start as low as $25 through pay pal and go as low as $3 a day on campains but dont expect to make a fortune with it unless you have a good nich and converting product. i tried a campain just to get leads with a free offer once and i diod get a few leads but most of them unsubscribed after downloading even before getiting any of my follow up emails. if you use 7 search with click bank and use the clickbank tracking code on each key word it is easy to see what key word is getign trafic to which offer and you can also make a differant key word for each click bank product and track them it also has its own tracking program i didnt try out. So I would only realy recomend it because it is easy to use easy to set up and learn from but dont expect good trafic from it .
      Signature
      For Free lessons on creating a free affiliate website including how to find a niche-how to find related key words and how to build your own free affiliate website including on and off page SEO Check out my
      Free Lessons Here
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9819317].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author jjones111
        Well I have to admit that this method of creating individual ads for each keyword and then track them to see which one gets you better results sounds quite good. I haven't tried it so far and I have been doing PPC for a few months now on both Bing and Adwords with mixed to good results, but clearly a much more targeted traffic should increase the ROI even further. It sure is a little extra involved, but after that it's all money in the bank on auto pilot like the guru's use to say. Thanks for the tip!
        Signature

        "Getting along with others is the essence of getting ahead, success being linked with cooperation." - William Feather

        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9824993].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author bg10
    I've done some 7search a while back with CPA offers, mainly email submits and games. I made some money but it wasn't anything to get excited about. You need to run as many offers as you can get your hands on and try them all.

    Run like 10 bucks on each and if it doesn't make you money you can move on to the next one. I would get like 1 that made some money from 8-12 offers. I would spend 10 bucks and make 12 or so back which wasn't really worth the time.

    I had one that was for a free trial and paid 30 bucks and that one would make 5-8 bucks a week because it took like couple of hundred clicks to get a conversion.

    Never tried any list building but that might be worth the try since the clicks are cheap.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9826085].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author totalyrecycled12
      I tried a couple of differant free offers with an opt in form I had a very low conversion and the few that did opt in opted out directly after downloading the free offer and never waited to get any more of my email series i was tracking email opens and down load numbers i ended up with about 25 to 40 opt ins sepeatly on the two offers and both lists ended up with about 5 that didnt opt back out after downloading the offer and dint even stay on my lists to get any of my email series. So ive given up on 7search
      for that reason
      Signature
      For Free lessons on creating a free affiliate website including how to find a niche-how to find related key words and how to build your own free affiliate website including on and off page SEO Check out my
      Free Lessons Here
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9826584].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author jjones111
        Yeah, it is kind of tricky to build a list using CPC. I for one only tried to go for a list just once using tinyletter and I managed to only get very few subscribers from a whole week of social media marketing on a couple of accounts that do pretty well and were quite targeted actually, so I gave up the concept entirely and now focus mainly on advertising. Right now I guess that my best bet is to try out as many possible offers and advertise (with no more than 10$ each as total is saying) and just hope I will get at least a few that make money in the process. Simple strategy in this case: Throw everything to the wall and see what sticks.
        Signature

        "Getting along with others is the essence of getting ahead, success being linked with cooperation." - William Feather

        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9828741].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author charlesnajars
    7search is a scam..I used it 2 times and waste my money.
    Signature

    Worlds Best Market Place For SEO Professionals

    SEO Work From Home Jobs

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[9828756].message }}

Trending Topics