Can You Make Money With PPC And Direct Linking?

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Hi all,

If I want to promote an affiliate product is it important to create a blog/landing page yourself which then has a link to your affiliate offer?

Or can I just put my affiliate link in a facebook/adwords advert?

If you don't direct link do you have to build a whole site around your product or can it just be a one page sales page?

It just seems a bit pointless to do a sales page which then has a url to click through to another sales page (the affiliates site)?

Thanks

Tom
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

    Can You Make Money With PPC And Direct Linking?
    It doesn't matter, Tom.

    Because even if you can, it would make no sense to try, when you look at the alternatives.

    Here's the thing: to earn significant money from affiliate marketing, you need to do three things ...

    (i) Keep your potential customers returning to the sales page (because very, very few people buy anthing much at their first visit to its sales page!);

    (ii) Make increasing sales (ideally at progressively higher prices) to the same "captive audience" who regularly rely on and trust your recommendations;

    (iii) Establish the credibility and trust necessary to do both the above by earning's people respect as a provider of niche-related information.

    Without building lists, of course, you can't do any of the three and you'd just be throwing away almost all the traffic you ever generate that doesn't buy anything immediately.

    It's like trying to fill the bath by opening the taps fully but without remembering to put the plug in the hole first. You just lose almost all the water, almost immediately. Even if you did, occasionally, have enough left over to show a profit, what kind of way to run a business would that be?

    For most people, most of the time, it's just about as simple as that, overall.

    These three threads are more informative ...

    Is it a good idea to spend some time on building a mailing list ?

    Without Building a List, How Consistent is Your Income from Affiliate Marketing

    Does anyone even make money online without an email list?


    And quite apart from all that, if it were as easy for ClickBank vendors - say - as "doing PPC advertising and direct-linking to their sales page", why would they all be paying affiliates up to 75% of the takings for providing the traffic? Why wouldn't they just do that, themselves, or employ someone to do it, and earn so much more money??


    Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

    It just seems a bit pointless to do a sales page which then has a url to click through to another sales page (the affiliates site)?
    Yes indeed ... you certainly got that part right. That would be very silly. That's why affiliates don't need sales pages. We need opt-in pages.


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  • Profile picture of the author Tommyg123
    Thanks alexa for the great advise (as always).

    I guess I really need to start figuring out how to build lists. I always went the PPC route because I can afford to put money into it and hoped that would cut the time issue of having to build a list. I am new to IM and have just about figured out how to put a website up let alone auto responders and the like.

    Im guessing I will need thousands and thousands of people on my list to make any money? That sounds like years of work :-(
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

      Im guessing I will need thousands and thousands of people on my list to make any money?
      Why? That's not necessarily so at all.

      The one thing of which you can be sure, though, is that however many or few you need, to make money, it's going be fewer than you'd need without list-building, because without list-building you can't even keep them returning to the sales page of the first product you promote, never mind all the others that will produce most of your long-term income.

      Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

      I guess I really need to start figuring out how to build lists.
      These 6 posts/threads hould help you with that. They cover most of the basics. They'll get you oriented, anyway, at least ...

      What are the essential things to know about list building?
      Lists: How Long to Presell - Averages
      Website or squeeze page
      Where to get reports to give away on opt in page?
      Autoresponders vs. Broadcasts
      Sick of Emails Not Being Opened?


      Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

      I always went the PPC route because I can afford to put money into it
      I'm not suggesting there's anything wrong with it, Tom. I've used it myself, in the past. It's a perfectly good way of generating traffic for those with the right skill-set (it's a big learning-curve, of course), and it's the fastest way you can get traffic, too.

      But it makes little sense to spend money on the traffic and not even try to retain any of it. Not for an affiliate marketer, anyway.


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    • Profile picture of the author Vikram73
      Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post


      Im guessing I will need thousands and thousands of people on my list to make any money? That sounds like years of work :-(
      ???

      No, it's pretty easy to get a big list built up in a few weeks.

      I picked up 300 subscribers this weekend with a solo ad. I suspect I'll get another 200 before it's over.

      And this is what I generated in sales the first day it was sent out - keep in mind that more sales are coming in but the cost of the solo ad was more than covered by this (the snapshot is me filtering on a click bank tracking id so it's just sales from the solo ad).

      The flow went like this:

      Solo Ad --> Landing Page --> Opt In --> Re Direct to Offer

      The bulk of sales were on Saturday and by Sunday/Monday/tomorrow the sales will drop considerably.

      The offer is converting at about 4% with little to no pre-selling.

      You can get a list of a few thousand strong in your niche in a few weeks time. Just keep them engaged and happy and don't promote garbage offers.

      There's no "One True Method" in affiliate marketing.

      I see affiliates on leaderboards direct linking and clearing hundreds of sales a day. They just understand PPC better than me.

      You need to figure out what is going to work for you. And be patient with yourself, very few people succeed quickly.

      I find a lot of value in email marketing. It's easy and I enjoy writing emails to my list (and getting positive feedback from them).
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  • Profile picture of the author tristatemedia
    no iwould never direct link. collect your leads and keep them for you self. besides many networks will not let you direct link. even face book.
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by tristatemedia View Post

      no iwould never direct link. collect your leads and keep them for you self. besides many networks will not let you direct link. even face book.
      Facebook do allow you to direct link.
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      • Profile picture of the author ghost209
        Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

        Facebook do allow you to direct link.
        it really depends on your offer and network. Alot of cpa offers (muscle / weight loss / skin care / trial ) etc. will get the ban hammer on FB.

        direct linking on CB? think again. you will get the hammer of Thor on your head.

        if your offer is not 100% compliant with FB (which most offers *aren't*)..
        it's only a matter of time before it gets slapped
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  • Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

    Hi all,

    If I want to promote an affiliate product is it important to create a blog/landing page yourself which then has a link to your affiliate offer?

    Or can I just put my affiliate link in a facebook/adwords advert?

    If you don't direct link do you have to build a whole site around your product or can it just be a one page sales page?

    It just seems a bit pointless to do a sales page which then has a url to click through to another sales page (the affiliates site)?

    Thanks

    Tom
    You can direct link your offers and can get success but its better to use landing page, IMO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jarvis Edwards
    You absolutely CAN direct link if you use a meta refresh, depending on the traffic platform of course. The only way to find out if you can make money doing it, is to test out direct linking an offer(s) against sending the traffic to a landing page/website/etc. For platforms that don't tolerate direct linking or redirects, a simple landing page works. Even a image-based lander can work well.

    Some offers won't do well direct linked, while some will. It's all a matter of sending enough traffic volume to each variation to see which one converts the most.

    You can make a landing page that looks very similar to the offer's lander, without all of the "bells and whistles." Then have a simple call-to-action link or button that takes the visitor to the sales page. You can even test linking to the sales page vs. linking to the checkout page (if the advertiser allows it), to see which converts best.

    I sometimes make a simple version of the offer's site by duplicating the offer page and stripping out most of the text, then placing a few good selling points in bullets with a call-to-action button underneath. Works well. And I always test an offer direct linking first, before building and testing a landing page or website, but of course that may not work for everyone.

    In my experience so far, PPC is 1% intuition and 99% testing!
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