[BING PPC] Tips, Tricks And Techniques To Help You Succeed TODAY!!!

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hey guys,


So I have been on the forum only a short amount of time but doing IM for about four years and more recently took the plunge into PPC now. I do bing PPC and I wanted to share with you some things I have learned. To your success........


DISCLAIMER This information is ment to be tips and tricks from my opinion and point of view...im not telling you or instructing you to go do exactly what I say, use it as a tool please

Ok lets get started:-

Positive mindset

Like any work wether it be offline or online you should start with a positive mindset and go into what your doing with 100% effort and a good mindset. Especially with PPC where hard earned money is been spent and the risks are higher!


Budget And Time Allowance

A good thing to do is set yourself a limit wether its a daily weekly or monthly ad spend. Keeping control of this will be more effective and won't ruin your account. Dedicate time to your ad campaigns but also manage time and tasks for other areas of your business.


Keyword research

There are many tools for this research but google and bing tools seem to be good enough. In google sometimes its good to use and turn on the function where it says keywords closely related to the search term. This will give you more closer relevant long tail keywords to use in your campaigns. Also google main page is useful type in your keyword and scroll down to the bottom and it will say searches related to your key term so example:-


I typed in "dog training" and got


  • dog training tips
  • dog training videos
  • dog potty training etc
You can do this with any keyword and then gain some more keywords!!


Ok so moving on your also want to have a mix of long tail and short keywords in your ad groups to really test the marker and niche. I recommend more long tail because there are further in the buying cycle keywords but in terms of lead capture sometimes two word keywords work very well.


I have posted about keyword types before but I feel it will useful here!!


Browse keywords - keywords people use to generally browse between websites,
products and services, with little to no intention of buying.



For example: “Dog training”


Compare Keywords – keywords and phrases people use when they know what they need but haven’t decided what product will suit their needs.

For example “Rottweiler training program”


Buy Keywords – phrases people use when they know exactly what product or service they wish to buy. They have settled on a specific product or service and are looking for a website which provides that service.



For example: “Pit-bull Potty Training book ”.


Now in terms of keywords in bing let have a look at that:-


  1. Have smaller keyword lists per ad group, see what works and was does not in terms of keywords numbers. too many and you lose relevancy...too little and you lose search volume. Key point is too keep testing the good keywords and make sure to lose the bad, so there not getting just impressions and affecting your CTR and CPC.
  2. Use a negative keyword list, without one you will be throwing away a lot of money and wasted clicks. Use negative phrase not negative exact. ok example:
negative phrase would be inputted like this "negative phrase keyword"
negative exact would be inputted like this [negative exact keyword]


The above example is when using the main keyword as broad type. Using the negative phrase keyword will be more beneficial in your campaigns and filter out even more less targeted customers!!


3. The use of the main keyword should try and be incorporated into your ad, ad title, display url and destination url: lets look at an example :-


My Main keyword is DOG TRAINING

An ad could look like this:-

Dog Training 101
How To Train Your Dog With
These 3 Simple Yet Highly
Effective Tips!
www.dogtrainingguide.com <---------This is the Display URL
www.dogtrainingguide.com/(a section of your website or landing page)


This is just an example, but it show bing a very relevant ad, keywords and a relevant landing page or website. This is just an example I would not use such a broad keyword as "dog training" try to find more long tail ones!!


So in terms of keyword targeting see what works. I have been having some good success with using the [exact] and "phrase" match types when selecting my keywords and bids but you will have to figure out your bidding strategy and see what works for you.


You can bid high and then lower your bids as the CTR improves and the CPC lowers or you can start off low and build up your bids and ad position until you have good CPC and CTR. TEST TEST TEST MY FRIEND!!

ok I think that covers most things with keywords let me know if I have missed something!!

BING CAMPAIGN SETTINGS

Now lets go through these :-


campaign budget. so you have two options here standard or accelerated. standard will even out the clicks through out the day and accelerated will use up your daily amount quicker. Stick to a daily budget to test the niche!!!


AD language pretty self explanatory but sometimes for different offers this could change just find out what your offering and go from there.


Locations here you want to tick the box that says "selected cities" then choose the country or countries you want to target. This is a key point because for example one offer I promoted the other day the buying demographic was 74% usa. so it makes sense to target USA.


Advanced location options here you should tick the box where it says "show ads to people in your targeted location. So our location for this example is USA and now this will only target people in usa been a lot more relevant to our buyers.







advance targeting options

AD schedule you can choose when your ad is displayed for example Monday to Friday Saturday and sunday. use some knowledge and find out when your target customer will be buying the most of clicking. Example. If your promoting something geared towards students. select time where they will be home and not at college. Adjusting this will be a lot more relevant and you will not waste unwanted clicks and impressions.


Demographic here you can select male or female and ages to target again very useful for been ultra targeted example. I knew for one campaign that 90% females brought the product and their age was 20-30 so you need to select those age groups by increasing the bid on that age group and decreasing the bid percentage on the other non targeted age groups.


Ad distribution here is where you want to turn off content network you only want search.


pricing model cost per click


Schedule and exclusions is pretty self explanatory so just select what you want.


Ad rotation you want to select where it says "rotate ads more evenly" this way you can test a lot better.


and lastly keyword matching options just both options work with different offers choose accordingly when you set up your ad!!!


So how can you achieve great CTR low CPC And a high ad postion???

  • research your given niche/offer demographics setting etc some affiliate platforms have this information and it very good for targeting.
  • TEST TEST TEST- test your keywords, landing page, ad copy etc
  • BE relevant in all areas. when I started I read the TOS many many times so I knew exactly what they would allow and would not.
  • If a certain keywords of keywords are performing very well extract them and put them in their own ad and ad group and scale up if your making sales.
  • be willing to fail and learn from what going wrong. you can control quite a lot with your campaigns but put in the time and see what is working and what is not.


Ad copy tricks

so lastly I wanted to touch on ads and ad copy. now here are some examples and tips to improve your CTR:

EXAMPLE ONE

dog training tips
dog training tips guide
what works today
www.
www.


EXAMPLE TWO



Dog Training 101
Discover the Secret
Dog Training Tips the Pro's Use!
www.
www.


Now example one is not good but example two is so here is why :-


The title is a lot more appealing and the use of numbers attracts the buyer


Capitals are used effectively through out the ad copy and if you notice the word "the" is left uncapilized. this seems to work very well.


The explanation mark at the end works well also.


Also the words "discover" and "Secret" play with the emotion of the visitor instead of the boring ad copy in example one!!!


AD example number two would definitely get a much higher CTR!!!!


so this is my contribution and tips to this section. Now there are lot of people on here with more experience and knowledge and I have probably missed some things but I just wanted to give back to this awesome forum and hopefully help some people


shaun!
#pay per click/search engine marketing (ppc/sem) #bing #ppc #roi
  • FYI Bing will be removing the opt out for close variant keywords.

    http://advertise.bingads.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/32948/updates-on-how-we-match-keywords?&BlogPostCategory=Product%20news
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    • hey ok good to know thanks
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  • Nice guide man. Helps for people just starting out in Bing, such as myself!
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    • Hey there,


      Your welcome I wanted to create something of value and help as many people as I can. If you need anymore help feel free to pm me and I get back to you when I can!
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  • What you do with your List?

    For example, you've started Bing Ads for "dog training" and invested $100.
    You have 3 Clickbank sells for $65 and 76 people in your list... Is this a good result?
    What do you do with this list?

    Thnx,
    Max
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    • Hey there,


      Thank for the reply...ok so lets dissect your example above.


      If I invested $100 and got 76 opt ins then it would cost me $1.31 to get one opt in, now this is not bad but not too good either. I would be aiming to get one subscriber for a $1 or less.


      Because as a general rule 1 subscriber is worth a $1 on an email list so if I can get them for 0.70 cent I am already ahead of the game.


      76% conversion on my landing or squeeze page...hell yeah that's very positive ill take that!!


      (At this point I have no sales im not direct linking for example)


      So now I know my landing page converts well. what do I do in the emails??


      • I build trust, respect and first send them a great welcome email.
      • I offer something of high value for free...in this case for dog training a free report of the top ten ways to make your dog listen to your commands the first time. or something like that. the report would be with the welcome email.
      • then let people know over the next week your be sending them great information in the form of a ecourse about dog training.
      • send them the course from a pre written follow up series in aweber and your affiliate products. I would , just .


      Have a great day!!
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  • shaunybb, Thank you!
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  • Are you profitable with Bing PPC? Do you collect an email and then forward them to a Clickbank offer? How long do subscribers stay active on your list?
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    • hey there,


      well lets answer your questions shall we


      Yes I make some profit from bing, but this is from extensive testing of products, keywords, landing pages, keywords and much more. Money can be made quick with ppc but you have to test and track


      I collect emails to eventually recommend them to a clickbank product yes. I don't hard sell or put a link In the first email NEVER. this is a bad way to lose a subscriber.


      They stay as long as they want I keep giving out quality content so they stay


      Have good day
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  • You know i just can't help but think if you guys have to try so hard to save a few cents here and there what kind of business do you really have? Obviously not one with a .U.S.P. /high profit margins etc. It must be hard to keep going through all this and having to do so in th face of more and more competition? Is it really worth the effort?
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    • hey there


      Your opinion is valued and like everyone else we all have different perceptions of what a high profit margin is. Some people who make $200 a day consider this a high margin while other making $20 consider this a high margin if it only cost them $2 to make it!


      The more competition there is the more of a challenge to your marketing efforts it is. I personally like that challenge and it drives me further to make more money.


      People are making $$$$ a day profit margin with ppc


      Thanks
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  • Hey guys does anybody used Bind PPC for Teespring campaigns? if yes, any success?
  • How much do you make?
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    • hey there


      My ROI is around 70% so far some campaigns are less but an average is that


      Do you do bing ads?
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  • I don t see any numbers.
    I think the key is how much do you spend for a click!
    I sugest to learn how to spend NOT more than 0,01$ - 0,08$ / click
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    • hey there thanks for your valued input.


      On some campaigns my average CPC is 0.26 while on others my CPC is 0.14


      My CTR range from 7% to some that have 30%


      Have a great day!
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  • Lots of good information in this thread.
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    • Hey thanks for your comment and opinion I will be releasing some great new information soon to help out all the warriors
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  • bing is very bad. 1000 click 0 sales. arrrrggghhhh
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    • hey there


      do you mind sharing some more information so we can help you better??


      thanks
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    • Don't you think that maybe a competitor is sabotaging your campaigns by mass clicking your ads in hopes of you running out of budget?
  • while people are always gunna say "hey but I do not want to build a landing page"

    I can confirm after spending thousands on PPC, landing pages will increase optins, and get you more sales, than direct linking. Pretty much always. Ok...not 100% of the time, but building leads using PPC is probably one of the best things you will ever do, as a practise.

    I mean, hey you do not see those multimillion dollar companies or TONY ROBBINS direct linking to places do you.and if they do, they always have a squeeze box down at the bottom. They are always capturing leads...THATS RIGHT!!! There is a reason for that. :-) They are serious about business. They spend Thousands each day on ads, that always go to a LANDER PAGE.

    If you are serious about your business, you need to be getting LEADS each day. If you want to triple your sales you currently have. Just triple your leads you are getting each week. Paid traffic and networks like BING, GOOG, FB and media buys are what these big companies are using.

    Heck you can even subscribe to a follower service, that will show you their ads, going back 2 years ago, and even which ones have done the best, and what lead pages OF THEIRS are converting the best. :-)

    Hope it helps.
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  • Bing has excellent fraud click detection.

    That may works in early days, but nowadays it is simply not possible.
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  • Thanks for nice sharing very informative post
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    • hey thanks you should check out solarwarrior thread on bing as well


      have a great day
  • damn! this is a mini-course in it self man, kudos to you for paying it forward!
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    • hey thanks for your valued opinion I will give out some more tips when I can


      have a great day
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  • Nice tips. Landing pages do work well and if you don't want to make your own then you can always use something like leadpages or clickfunnels.
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    • Thanks yeah two great resources there
  • Paid traffic is allowed but for me I guess not worth it... building audience is way better even takes time.
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    • hey there thanks for your comment, yes your right for some people paid traffic is not worth it but for other people it is!


      Most successful IM build an audience through PPC not just direct sell


      Thanks for your opinion
  • Wow, that's some solid info man, really glad you posted it..
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    • hey there


      thank you for your comment do you do bing ads?
  • Really good tips here...and a good discussion. From my experience there are certain niches that do better than others with Bing, maybe the demographic of people using it.

    Landing pages almost always do better but sometimes, depending on the offer, direct linking can give you an idea if it is worth pursuing. Most newbies almost always give up too easy on a campaign before getting enough data to see if it has potential and can be optimized. It scan be scary to dump money into something and not see many results, but a necessity with PPC unless you get lucky out of the gate.

    Honestly I haven't ran anything on Bing in a while - it was pretty relaxed on what you could promote so hopefully it is still that way for people starting out, especially with affiliate and CPA offers.
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    • Hey there


      Great contribution to this thread and thanks for the compliment. Yes your right some offers work well with direct linking and some just don't. People also expect to see results after minimal clicks which is just really hard to do sometimes.


      I see it all the time people giving up after like 20 or 30 clicks. Wow this is disappointing because you wont have very good data after not too many clicks but its up to people what they spend.


      They should test the market more and get more clicks and impressions. Make a great sales funnel and even though your spending money for a lot of clicks as long as your making ROI, keep doing it
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  • Great Discussion.
    One thing to keep in mind is that CPC is simply a variable. I pay $.05 to $5 per click. Depends on campaign.

    Look for offers that pay out really well on conversion. 100 clicks @ $5 = $500, if the conversion pays $1000 you make 100% on your ad spend...
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    • hey there exactly right, as long as your ads are making a positive ROI its definitely worth it in the long run.


      great input to the thread


      Have a great day
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  • in which network you earn with bingads?
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    • hey there


      how are you today??


      The networks I use are just the platform, im more interested in stats, testing and ROI!!


      I test multiple networks and find one that gives me the best ROI, then I scale up


      Hope that helps
    • Hey there,


      I have around 10 campaigns that make me money! Some make more money then others and some are smaller than others. I track, test and optimise everything
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  • Good sharing
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    • hi welcome to the warrior forum thanks for your comment!
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  • Thanks for your share very useful.
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    • hey your welcome to your success
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  • thanks for the tips
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    • your welcome if you have any questions feel free to ask!!
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  • @shaunybb.

    If you bid on Broad match, does this increase your Avg CPC? Im wondering this because when you bid on Broad, it usually decreases your CTR a lot and it's said that having a higher CTR equates to a lower CPC.
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    • hey cooler1 how are you today?


      CPC is determined by many factors, one being CTR. The problem people face when using broad match type is they get the volume and impressions, but low CTR which will help to drive up the CPC.


      Broad match does work for some campaigns, but for most the targeting is not their. There are wasted clicks and ultimately high cpc because there are too many variations of the keyword.


      The goal is this:-


      "lower cpc and higher CTR"


      This can be achieved by:-


      • careful selection of match type keywords
      • use of a negative keyword list
      • matching the message to market so to achieve a higher CTR
      • high quality score to drive down CPC
      Have a great day!
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    • hey there welcome to the forum!!


      We are all here to help I hope you enjoy your stay!!
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  • @shaunybb.

    Earlier in the thread, you said;

    My question is, how many impressions do you recommend there to be for a keyword before deciding to pause it?
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    • hey cooler,


      It depends really because ill look at the keyword search volume and the higher the volume ill sometimes leave more impressions to run.


      But I still monitor the impressions very carefully and when I start seeing bad CTR I pause that baby.


      I then try and test a few things ad copy or different keywords.
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  • dear shaunybb,
    I have a question if you have an offer which is paying you $11 per lead, how much are you willing to spend so that you don't hit your bottom line? Some advertisers are paying $8 to $10 just for a lead..it's not really worth in this case I find. What do you think?

    I do have conversion at around ave CPC $1.10 but profit will become losses soon if conversion is low.
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    • Hey there,


      Personally I would only think about positive ROI. If I can get a lead for $10 and it's paying $11 a lead I am still making $1 on each lead.


      Of course $5 would be better than $1 but it's a start then I test and scale up my marketing