Pay Per Click - What's the best way to to measure conversions ?

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For those who depend on PPC (Pay Per Click) Traffic ...

What's the best way to track the performance of your PPC campaigns?

Do you use the provided tools offered by the PPC traffic suppliers to measure your conversions ...

... you know ... codes or pixels from Bing, Google, Facebook, etc ... that you need to install on your thank you pages ... ???

Or do you use something else ? (a custom solution, a plug-in, etc ...)

What's easiest? What's more reliable? And what's more private?

Any other concerns or remarks you have that I haven't thought about yet?

Thanks!
#click #conversions #measure #pay
  • Profile picture of the author The Cypher
    We measure conversions in a lot of ways.

    Specifically using Google Adwords as an example (we currently spend $25k/mo) we collect GCLID (Google Click Identifier) straight out of our shopping cart on a daily basis. We re-feed this data back into Google Adwords to 'train' Google to bid more for these types of clicks.

    We also measure the Conversion count in Adwords and then (of course) actual 'real' optins from our mailing client.

    If you're using Adwords, make sure you're pulling GCLIDs for your most valuable clicks. Feed it back into Google... you'll thank yourself for it later.

    I don't currently use FB for advertising (bad niche) so I won't comment there. Yahoo we use their display native ad platform... so that's an entirely different animal haha...
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    • Profile picture of the author Stefan Vee
      Originally Posted by The Cypher View Post

      Specifically using Google Adwords as an example (we currently spend $25k/mo) we collect GCLID (Google Click Identifier) straight out of our shopping cart on a daily basis. We re-feed this data back into Google Adwords to 'train' Google to bid more for these types of clicks.
      Hi "The Cypher",
      Thanks!
      GCLID is mainly used for tracking off-line conversions, right?
      How about tracking online conversions?
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  • Profile picture of the author The Cypher
    GCLIDs are an unique identifier based on the click properties.

    Here's an example of what one looks like:

    CjwKEAjwi4yuBRDX_vq07YyF7l8SJAAhm0rp3mt2zzC33RzOYZ a6fCBcLrsf3A4pWu-tayOnaFBrYRoC_Wzw_wcB

    It documents the date that it was clicked, what ad, what search term, website etc. the ad appeared on and information about the user that clicked on it.

    Normally, people use GCLIDs for offline (phone) conversions, however, all mine are online conversions. It acts like UTM details. GCLIDs are always active and they trigger like cookies right before UTM details show up. GCLIDs are always being recorded, however most marketers do not pull this data and refeed it back into the system.

    Here is how it looks in the URL:

    http://www.site.com/?utm_source=adwo...FUYUHwodUrgHgg
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  • Profile picture of the author Stefan Vee
    Anyone else with a solution that's not "PPC provider specific" ?
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  • Profile picture of the author blitz20
    I use cpvlab to track all clicks and conversions
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  • Profile picture of the author OfficiallyVinnie
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    I'm having a really good experience tracking Bing PPC with Prosper202. I hope its the same for you. Its easy to setup and very easy to use, remember Google is your friend and also this forum!

    Cheers,
    Vinnie
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  • Profile picture of the author Stefan Vee
    Thank you all for your valuable input!
    I think it's important to "hide" the profitability of certain campaigns from PPC providers.
    Not only can certain individual employees steal successful campaigns (and sales funnels), the network itself could raise the PPC-pricing for certain keywords as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Originally Posted by Stefan Vee View Post

      Thank you all for your valuable input!
      I think it's important to "hide" the profitability of certain campaigns from PPC providers.
      Not only can certain individual employees steal successful campaigns (and sales funnels), the network itself could raise the PPC-pricing for certain keywords as well.
      Hi Stefan,

      Employees at a top tier PPC platform aren't likely to steal your campaigns. That just seems like paranoia at an unhealthy level. I've been doing PPC for more than 13 years and never had an issue with an employee from a top tier ad platform stealing anything, nor have I ever heard of such a thing happening to anyone else. And I belong to several communities of professional advertisers.

      PPC platforms do not "raise the PPC-pricing for certain keywords", that's not how PPC platforms work. Each advertiser sets his own bid, and the ad slots are auctioned off to the highest bidder. You, as an advertiser, are the only person that can raise the PPC pricing.

      At worst, an employee of a an ad platform could see your data, decide to become a competitor, and copy some of your ideas. However, you don't have to be an employee of a PPC platform to find millions of profitable niches, that information is rather easy to find using the AdWords Keyword Planner, and running a few tests within the ad network itself.

      Anytime you launch an advertising campaign, you are broadcasting to the public all your advertising efforts, it is publicly available for all the world to discover, else it wouldn't be effective.You can bet that your competitors are analyzing what you are doing, and if you are having success, some of your competitors are going to copy you. You cannot expect to keep that information a secret.

      Having said that, you can have secret strategies that are not apparent to your competitors, nor to PPC employees. Your specific strategies are what you need to conceal as much as you can from direct competitors.

      From my experience it is almost always better to use the Conversion tracking tool provided by the ad platform because you need to include conversion data to automate bidding and to perform optimization. Using 3rd party tracking is not always as reliable and you need to somehow marry the 2 separate sets of data to properly manage your campaigns. What you lose in accuracy and delayed adjustments is not likely to ever make up for some perceived security.

      There are some situations where 3rd party tracking apps do fill a need, in particular with affiliate marketing platforms that have issues with transparency. It is within the affiliate marketing arena that you need to be concerned with theft of your marketing, and I would be more worried about the 3rd party tracking providers than the PPC providers., because there have been serious issues over the years with providers of 3rd party conversion tracking scripts stealing from customers within the affiliate marketing arena. You may actually be increasing the likeliness of theft, rather than reducing it by bringing in 3rd parties.
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  • Easiest is of course to install the tracking code for each service. Not just easy to install, easy to track conversions down to the ads and keywords which is very important. So why use a third-party and added costs that may bring?

    Not sure how well a service like Prosper does at assigning a conversion to a specific keyword and ad. You can send parameters from the click but then it seems to me there's the hassle of combining data from two sources.

    An advantage is, as with Adwords, that you can track different kinds of conversions like a signup and an actual sale. A further advantage is recording the actual revenue from any sale, again to the keywords and ads. Both Adwords and Bing have that feature and surely others do as well. As Cypher mentions, there can be other information available that could be useful.

    I would think all are reliable.
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  • Profile picture of the author TrackingDesk
    prosper/cpvlab can do well, but they require quite some configurations and to host their software on a server which can be problematic if you dont want or can't to deal with technical stuff.
    It also depends on what you are promoting.
    For instance if you are promoting a portal that receives organic traffic and paid traffic, then those 2 platforms wont help.
    I would suggest trackingdesk obviously, but without a little more details about what you're trying to achieve, i might mislead you.
    if you want to contact me via pm I'll be able to further develop.
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    Trackingdesk.com

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  • Profile picture of the author Stefan Vee
    Thank you so much for your insights, Laurent and Don.
    Yeah, maybe I am a bit paranoid, but now you pushed me in the opposite direction.
    Great info!
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