First time poster, pros- please help- Adwords & Kijiji

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Hi Guys,

I run a business with 3 retail locations and have a decent rank for my country(Canada) as our products are fairly niche and hard to get for the major brands.

I have two questions.

1- I have been searching all over the web, I can't seem to find out how to get on the sponsored links on kijiji. Now I know that it is adwords search network with search partners enabled, but regardless I cannot find out what keywords will post my ads on that site or what cpc. I heard in a video on youtube briefly about a long keyword with the category name? Still kind of lost on it. Any insight would be amazing.

2- I want to advertise locally. I have spent over 5k on adwords and never really seem to get people in the store. We do repairs on guitars as a service and we do consignment or-buy-sell-trade and it seems like a challenge to choose the effective keywords because so many come up recommended by google and when I use keyword planner none of my specific keywords ( brands etc) get enough searches for google. For this I will specify the city specific and make ads and keywords specific to each service, so focusing on repairs, no one searches for exactly guitar repairs or atleast not enough.

I'm really into online marketing and learning more about it, I plan to eventually brand out into it. This guitar business is my fathers and I've worked with him to make the website and ebay/amazon a success but I really need to zoom into marketing because as of now we do NONE, only paying amazon/ebay fees to get our name and products out there and sold.
#adwords #kijiji #local business #poster #pros #sponsored links #time
  • Create a display campaign. Don't use keywords. Target Kijiji or any other site, more specifically, the categories and pages that relate to what you sell. There is a musical instruments section so target that category page for starters.

    For a search campaign, which will be separate from your display campaign, don't worry about number of searches. Search volume is what it is. It's not the volume of searches that is important, it's targeting them when they are searched and getting relevant and valuable clicks.
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Hi searchit2016,

      The AdWords Keyword Planner is a tool that will give you keyword ideas. Not all keyword ideas the tool finds will be relevant, and you definitely should not use everything it finds. You need to discern which keywords are relevant and specific enough to merit advertising your business.

      The key to profitable campaigns is to focus on highly specific and relevant search terms. Don't let the high search volume of highly general terms sway you into advertising there, it will typically be a complete waste of money.

      The trouble, that you have obviously discovered, is that the highly specific search terms tend to get far fewer searches than the broad general terms. Here is the secret to success it's called the "long tail" keyword. The term "long tail" refers to the long list of "low" search volume keywords that might trigger an ad impression. The long tail keywords can often include many thousands of highly specific terms, hence the "long" tail. While none of the individual long tail keywords will have a large volume of search, collectively the thousands of low volume keywords can add up to become the largest contributor to search traffic for your ad impressions.

      1000 keywords each with only 10 searches a month equals 10,000 searches collectively.

      So, rather than lament about the low search volume each long tail keyword brings, collect thousands of long tail keywords and use that massive list to bring significant traffic that is highly targeted and relevant.

      Those thousands of low volume (long tail), highly specific, keyword terms will also provide higher CTR, which leads to improved Quality scores and lower CPC, not to mention higher conversion rates and lower CPA.
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    • Profile picture of the author searchit2016
      Thanks for the response. I'm bit confused about targeting the category pages without using keywords. Adwords will only let me target kijiji.ca not any other urls for kijiji. Do you mean topics? As there is a musical instrument section under topics targeting. Please let me know I've beens pending on this display campaign but I can never see it on Kijiji so I'm weary on where this is showing at this point.
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    • Profile picture of the author searchit2016
      Originally Posted by LucidWebMarketing View Post

      Create a display campaign. Don't use keywords. Target Kijiji or any other site, more specifically, the categories and pages that relate to what you sell. There is a musical instruments section so target that category page for starters.

      For a search campaign, which will be separate from your display campaign, don't worry about number of searches. Search volume is what it is. It's not the volume of searches that is important, it's targeting them when they are searched and getting relevant and valuable clicks.
      Looks like google adwords added a whole bunch of website to target and my ads were shown to those sites.... no idea why.... how do I make it so it is just Kijiji and no where else?

      I unchecked female in the demographics because I want to target only men. And I have the conservative targeting selected as it was the default...

      Please help and this will be my final reply. If you need any musical gear let me know I can hook you up for helping!
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  • Profile picture of the author searchit2016
    Thanks for the help guys...I'm going try that stuff out, any really good resources/videos on any of those suggestions everything i find seems broad.

    thanks again
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  • Don't use keywords. You can set the targeting to the section and even a specific page. Kijiji has a standard site structure for all cities. For musical instruments it's kijiji.ca/b-musical-instrument/
    so target that for your city which follows the above structure. If you live in Toronto, it would be kijiji.ca/b-musical-instrument/toronto/
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    • Profile picture of the author searchit2016
      Originally Posted by LucidWebMarketing View Post

      Don't use keywords. You can set the targeting to the section and even a specific page. Kijiji has a standard site structure for all cities. For musical instruments it's kijiji.ca/b-musical-instrument/
      so target that for your city which follows the above structure. If you live in Toronto, it would be kijiji.ca/b-musical-instrument/toronto/
      Thank you for the help so far! I finally figured out how to add the full URL in placement targeting and it is stuck on "managed" status and the "questions mark" tells me the ads are not showing. I'm seeing tons of my competitors ads but it is obvious they are just doing a normal search network and display campaign because it comes up on google also. I'm bidding $4.00 per click - when i had just kijiji.ca specified as a site I only got 11 impressions for a whole day :/ I doubt my competitors are bidding more.... two quick questions

      1- this is the url for Ontario and musical instruments-

      http://www.kijiji.ca/b-musical-instr...tario/c17l9004

      Adwords won't let me include the "c17l9004"

      and if I put Kijiji: Free Classifieds in Canada. Find a job, buy a car, find a house or apartment, furniture, appliances and more! into my address bar I get kijiji landing page for ontario....

      Any insight?

      2- How do I get more impressions? and get the URL placement out of "managed" not sowing ads?

      -OK-

      so i log refresh the page and I have 12000 impressions and 18 clicks..... are these showing only on kijiji when it is my chosen placement? (i only have a placement kijiji.ca) or everywhere? Kijij.ca placement says I got 13 impressions- where were these other impressions I just paid for?
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  • Seems to me you should not include the /c17l9004/ part as you did. This will of course target the main musical instruments menu.

    Looking more closely at the Kijiji site structure, it seems that every instrument for sale is put in a folder fitting its category. So if you click on any listing for a piano, it's kijiji.ca/v-piano-keyboard/ followed by the city. For guitars, it's kijiji.ca/v-guitar/ followed by the city. This is good since you can then target the proper instrument section.

    I've seen Adwords not accept a URL before. I just never been able to figure out why. It may have something to do with the site's structure as you discovered. I believe I've targeted Kijiji before without problems.

    Impressions will of course depend on how many people go to those pages and your competition. Nothing you can do about how many people visit the site. As for competition, you need to have better quality ads and/or outbid them, just like search. The QS equivalent for display campaigns is Relative CTR which is a metric shown at the campaign level.

    Forget about the demographics. Kijiji doesn't collect that information from users which is my understanding how this would work. Google may use it's own data however but one needs to have a Google account and be logged in. Not sure why you want to exclude females. I wouldn't do it.

    I don't near musical gear, I can't play any instrument. My son however is trying to sell his saxophone, in Ottawa region.
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