Can a very small PPC bidding get much traffic if no competitor for a keyword?

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We provide the service of finding clothes from picture for customer.

so I found keyword 'wheretogetit' , no any competitor listed at Google search page.


https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...q=wheretogetit

Considering no competitor at all, Can I just bid a very small amount, say, 0.1 dollar for keyword 'wheretogetit' ?
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  • Profile picture of the author gluckspilz
    Jump right into it mate and test it out.

    You can just bid low and increase the bidding slowly if you're ads are not getting any impressions or clicks.
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    • Profile picture of the author mengwarri
      thank you!
      I just not understand the logic behind the 'suggested bid' , I see no competitor for keyword 'Wheretogetit', but the suggested bid is 2 dollars. so 2 dollars is the minimum for any keyword at Google PPC?

      If truly no competitor for a keyword, my bid of 0.1 dollar should work.
      Is my logic correct?

      Originally Posted by gluckspilz View Post

      Jump right into it mate and test it out.

      You can just bid low and increase the bidding slowly if you're ads are not getting any impressions or clicks.
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      • Profile picture of the author JC Web
        You need to think logically here for a second. Why would someone be searching for that keyword? The reason there is no competition is because the keyword is useless.

        As far as bidding, You can bid as low as you want if there is no competition. However, if google determines the keyword does not match what you are advertising, you will not be able to use it.

        If you are trying to piggyback traffic off the website with that name, any success you have will be very, very short-lived.
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  • Profile picture of the author bryan2015
    In bidding you need to start from low and people click on your adds if they seems it to be worthy.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChadGilbert
    Yes, Of course any small bidding can drive traffic to your sites, and some more you do not have any competitors, so it would be more easier to get entire volume of traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author chyan007
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    First of all you need to check ,whether there are any searches for that particular keyword in the keyword planner tool,

    There could be 2 cases

    1)Either the bidders have stopped biding on that keyword because it was not at all profitable for them

    2)No one knows about that keyword ,You could get an idea about that in the keyword research tool

    If there are quite a few searches going on for that ,then you may have found a goldmine , Test with a small budget and see if that is the case

    Hope this helps
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    • Profile picture of the author mengwarri
      Our website has a service 'find clothes from picture'


      I run a ad of there keywords "wheretogetit", "thehunt" "find clothes from pictures".

      I can not find any competitors at the Google search page of that three keywords.

      But when I made my max bid 0.5 dollars, the keywords isn't triggering ads to appear, why?

      According to my knowledge, if no competitor at all, 0.1 dollar bid should trigger my ad.

      Please help


      Please check the Google search page of my target keywords

      https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...q=wheretogetit

      https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...TF-8#q=thehunt

      https://www.google.com/search?q=find...sm=93&ie=UTF-8





      "find clothes from picture" Below first page bid
      First page bid estimate: $2.13

      Why the keyword "find clothes from picture" which has no other competitors bid for ask a $2.13 dollars bid?


      Originally Posted by chyan007 View Post

      First of all you need to check ,whether there are any searches for that particular keyword in the keyword planner tool,

      There could be 2 cases

      1)Either the bidders have stopped biding on that keyword because it was not at all profitable for them

      2)No one knows about that keyword ,You could get an idea about that in the keyword research tool

      If there are quite a few searches going on for that ,then you may have found a goldmine , Test with a small budget and see if that is the case

      Hope this helps
      Chyan007
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      • Profile picture of the author chyan007
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        Originally Posted by mengwarri View Post

        Our website has a service 'find clothes from picture'


        I run a ad of there keywords "wheretogetit", "thehunt" "find clothes from pictures".

        I can not find any competitors at the Google search page of that three keywords.

        But when I made my max bid 0.5 dollars, the keywords isn't triggering ads to appear, why?

        According to my knowledge, if no competitor at all, 0.1 dollar bid should trigger my ad.

        Please help


        Please check the Google search page of my target keywords

        https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...q=wheretogetit

        https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...TF-8#q=thehunt

        https://www.google.com/search?q=find...sm=93&ie=UTF-8





        "find clothes from picture" Below first page bid
        First page bid estimate: $2.13

        Why the keyword "find clothes from picture" which has no other competitors bid for ask a $2.13 dollars bid?
        I will get back to you tomorrow, if time permits, Anyways thanks for your questrions
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  • Profile picture of the author time4vps
    Originally Posted by mengwarri View Post

    Can I just bid a very small amount, say, 0.1 dollar for keyword 'wheretogetit' ?
    Yes. However, sometimes it depends on how big is the audience in your targeted country/city. The more you segment your audience - the lower price you will get.
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  • Profile picture of the author thedark
    First of all, make sure that the keyword get traffic from Keyword planner tool in google adwords. Using that tool you will be able to find related keywords to maximize your click on a lower budget.

    Yes, if you don't have any competitor you should be able to get that keyword for $0.10 . However, if you don't see any ads to that keyword don't mean that there are none. Maybe they are targeting other geographical areas which you are not in, or they are targeting other interests.
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  • Let's put aside the fact that your keyword may not be relevant. It's not as far as I'm concerned.

    I've said before, just because you don't see any ads for a keyword, doesn't mean there is no competition. More important, doesn't mean there has NEVER been others using the keyword. In my view, there is never no competition at all.

    Google uses historical data to provide an estimate of what you should bid. So if the going rate for the keyword was $2, the suggestion may be $2.

    Remember too that Google uses lateral data as well. So it may think there are other keywords that are related and will use that data for the estimate. Problem is, the related keyword used may not be or not relevant.

    Also, it's an estimate. Other factors, one being your targeted geography among many others, may make your mileage differ. Only way to really know what will happen is to run a campaign and see.

    Note too that the estimate is based on an average Quality Score and to have your ads show in the first few positions. Bid less and you'll likely get lower position, even if you have good QS. It depends on so many factors that you need to run a campaign.

    Now to give you specific advice.

    If I understand correctly, I can send you a picture and you come back suggesting clothes that will look good on me based on, presumably, my body type and other things.

    The problem is that nobody knows such a service exists so nobody searches for it. Even if they do, I don't even know what terms they would use, probably thousands different ways but surely not "wheretogetit". This may be a competitor but anyone searching on that brand? Is it known?

    The keyword "find clothes from picture" is better but probably few search that too. Here's what's happening for Google to estimate a $2 bid. the only relevant words in that phrase are clothes and pictures. The other words are common and are likely thrown out. It may even consider only "clothes" which would explain the $2 bid.

    Definitely run a campaign, I suggest NOT using broad matched keywords.

    You could use more generic keywords to create awareness of what you do and sell. A display campaign to further generate awareness is also an option. You need to properly target sites. So if your clothes are for women, for a certain age group, advertise where that demographic is.
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    • Profile picture of the author scnn
      Originally Posted by LucidWebMarketing View Post

      Let's put aside the fact that your keyword may not be relevant. It's not as far as I'm concerned.
      I agree there are no irrelevant keyphrases. They might get only a few clicks but those few clicks could be exactly who you need on your site.

      Originally Posted by LucidWebMarketing View Post

      A display campaign to further generate awareness is also an option. You need to properly target sites. So if your clothes are for women, for a certain age group, advertise where that demographic is.
      Display ads perform well for branding, so I would include a logo in it. Brand association is powerful when it's displayed on the right kinds of sites. It can get expensive. Targeted clicks from the customers you need is the point.
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    • Profile picture of the author mengwarri
      Thank you so much!!
      This is what we offer, customer upload a picture of clothes, we use our Image Search and Human search to find the clothes to her.
      Here is the link,
      find clothes from pictures | Unique & vintage clothes, accessories | Fashion community


      Where my keywords come from?

      thehunt.com
      wheretoget.it

      These are websites provide such service, upload picture and get clothes.

      thehunt.com was just acquired by Pinterest 12 days ago, so it's not available now.

      There are many searches of 'thehunt' 'wheretogetit' according to Keyword planner.

      Please see my attached image.








      Originally Posted by LucidWebMarketing View Post


      If I understand correctly, I can send you a picture and you come back suggesting clothes that will look good on me based on, presumably, my body type and other things.

      The problem is that nobody knows such a service exists so nobody searches for it. Even if they do, I don't even know what terms they would use, probably thousands different ways but surely not "wheretogetit". This may be a competitor but anyone searching on that brand? Is it known?

      The keyword "find clothes from picture" is better but probably few search that too. Here's what's happening for Google to estimate a $2 bid. the only relevant words in that phrase are clothes and pictures. The other words are common and are likely thrown out. It may even consider only "clothes" which would explain the $2 bid.

      Definitely run a campaign, I suggest NOT using broad matched keywords.

      You could use more generic keywords to create awareness of what you do and sell. A display campaign to further generate awareness is also an option. You need to properly target sites. So if your clothes are for women, for a certain age group, advertise where that demographic is.
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  • Your business is clothes for women. Your idea of finding the same garment for a customer is certainly interesting and unique. Unique is good and differentiates you from competitors. However, it is NOT your core business as I see it, at least from what I see on your site. I also multiple issues with it but that's another story. So my recommendation is don't bid on those keywords.
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