[Journey]Going from 0 to 50$ a day steady profit with Bing and CB!

Ok keep us updated. I am not as optimistic as you but we will see. Do you send the visitors directly to the sales page?

Well the campaign is active for less then 12 hours now - it got 32 clicks, still no sales of course,the average cpc is 29 cents. going to wait till having around 100 clicks so I can make some optimizations for this one. I already can see which ad group has the most clicks and LP optimization must be performed for it to warm the visitors up.

Till next update

Well few minutes ago I got a yellow mark on almost all of my keywords which says that my bid is not enough for the first page. The bids they are suggesting are way too high for anything to be profitable. I am not going to raise my bids and see what happen next.

OK another update which is not that good - I received a low quality score on all of the keywords and the main reason is "Landing page experience". this is very odd because I have a lot of content on the website, no autoplay stuff and a good page load time (I checked with a page load time app that said my website is i top 17%).

I don't really know what to do next - anybody has any idea? I dont care to share in private my niche and the lander...

Maybe the problem is you have too much content on the landing page. This doesn't have to be crowded and has to tease people into taking a closer look at your site/campaign/product.

The problem with Bing is that usually you don't get much traffic. It is usually around one tenth of Google Adwords. However, Adwords is very dangerous for affiliate marketing, especially with Clickbank products. The only stuff that is relatively safe with Adwords are mainstream physical products.

OK. Don't have any good news - I got 178 clicks, 53$ spent and still no sales. I am going back to research stage with this one campaign because I know for sure there is money to be made.

My LPs' CTR is horrible, I got only 65~ clicks to the product page and I think there is my main failure. I am going to pause it for day or 2 until I finish the research, connect with the audience and only then I will rewrite my page. Something is not clicking there and I must fix it or this campaign goes to toilet.

So after deep analyzing I understand the issue - most of the traffic comes from mobile and app. My website is not optimized for it but worst - the vendor's website is also not optimized for it and personally they both look pretty ugly even on High resolution mobile device. I have to think what I am going to do with this info and If I want to keep fighting for that campaign or just f*ck it. All the products in this niche do not have optimized pages and that is making my decision even harder. Will update in a few days.

Can you make an ad only for desktop? Do they even have that option? Also did you chose only Bing search engine? The other content sources are even lower quality..I saw all sort of dubious websites as referer when I forgot to check that. You get some of those even if you check Bing only.

Of course I checked Bing only. But a lot of people do the search from online device. Biggest problem if you turn it off(I have no idea how but I can ask the support) the traffic will be pretty low and I am not sure I even want to deal with this kind of traffic. It is just too long to optimize!

Why not just create a course? I mean, after studying computer science there must be something you can make a course about? Then just brand it in 2 different products, 1 for Udemy. com and the second for a clickbank like product. Takes some time to make, but if youhave time to travel, you have most certainly time to work more...

bing is not that hard to master.

With bing, make sure you do not use google tools, keywords

use bing keyword tool.

Then make sure your keywords are in your ads, headlines, copy and headlines on your website and just above your optin page.

Make everything congruent, for the user from the time they enter their keywords to optin, and and get what they expect.

Trust me, I do big numbers, and bing is awesome, after money I have spent, these are the best secrets for you.

Video on optin pages seems to outpull, so try that maybe?

I now you probably decided I quit, but I didn't. I ran a lot of failed campaigns and one of them gave me some conversions. This campaign has no future because the only converting keyword (and the only one that got good traffic) is absolutely not profitable and not going to be because it is general and pretty costy.

If someone cares it was a gaming offer - Animal Jam.

After trying to avoid it for so long - I am going to build a list in an evergreen niche which is in the health market. Right now I am working on my LPs - I want to split test at least 3 of them, and they must be totally different.

OK, so I will let you know ho it goes

For me bidding 25 cent is too much. Can you try using different keywords with lesser bids but receive more clicks.

Well, long time without updates but I did not give up. It was just a little harder then I thought but here are first signs of a campaign that will probably be successful



Probably going to update more frequently from now on.

Great job! I like that you didn't give up to quickly, that's one of my main weaknesses.

well thats the dream! travelling the world while you have a constant stream of income rolling in. and you do not have to be grounded at one place to work.

Alright the things are going pretty good right now
I have only one campaign running but have 5 ideas in the queue. Going to submit "thin" campaigns for these niches and put them on early testing.

The current campaign is in the optimization level of keywords, it has a good CTR (14% stable) and pretty low cpc so it is not losing money but hardly making any. But since there is not enough data to make real optimization decisions I want it to run for at least 600$ so I can chop off all the non converting keywords, and get it to make me some money. I do not expect too much of it - 300$ profit a months will be enough since I am not building a list. Scaling big on one campaign at Bing is a little hard because of the low search volumes in most niches, and going for very competitive ones (weight loss, make money and etc...) can wait a little.

Great news everybody

Since my last update I submitted 2 more thin campaigns for testing.
One of them was an immediate failure because I saw that with the CPC I am willing to pay will bring me very little traffic so I paused it until I want to expiriement again in this niche.

The second one was submitted today and got me a sale about an hour ago Although it was a downsale and the payment was a little smaller, this campaign shows some potential

The first one runs great, it is profitable right now and bring me a sale every day but as I said before - I need more data to make it complete so until the end of the months I will not make any optimizations on it at all.

Getting another campaign ready but don't know if I want to submit it untill the picture gets more clear with the campaign #2 so I think I will take my time. Rush is my biggest enemy and I am not falling in this trap, once I see few more sales from the #2 I will submit the third one. Still long way to my main goal but I am not giving up

Great progress.

Are you following the same bidding strategy as you outlined in your opening post i.e. bidding $0.25 if the commission is $25, or are you using a different strategy now?

hey great job


your doing well!


I am a bit late to this thread but are you using a lander?


Thanks!

Well I submitted 3 more campaigns, 2 of them were immediate failure but the third one showed me some love today and gave me a sale So I am keeping this one although it will probably be pretty slow from what I see (20-30 clicks a day before chopping off the non converting traffic).

The second campaign rocks - 259 in one week, I believe 140 profit. I have days with 3 sales from it alone and I imagine myself having 5 of these - 15 sales a day!

The hardest thing for me is to concentrate on the next thing I have to do without digging the campaigns I already have. I find myself worried when the sales from one campaign getting slow and it makes much harder for me to work on the next thing. But I am trying to give my best, I remember the real goal and it is to travel the word while maling money from PPC. Here is the current state of my cli9ckbank account - you can see the new campaign sale from 2 hours ago

Have few ideas in the queue as always, going to work on the next one right now before I fall a sleep
Hope it will be ready tomorrow.

OK, so the campaign#3 that made me it's first sale on 27 Aug gave me another 2 sales so we are good

I submitted one more campaign since then - it sucked and I failed to bring in enough traffic. Going for the next one.

By the way - I got my first 100$ day today.



By the way - any idea why the pics are upload with so bad quality? Any chance to improve it without using my own host?

what about match types? only exact?

Nice sales! you started health product of clickbank!

I tried to promoted bing ads but spent loss and two sales and Now i am not satisfied for my campaigns so I need to learn expert more strategies

i ask you for need perfect proper way to make campaign?

how many keywords per campaign and per group?

how many bid per cost both exact and phrase?

how many countries? name countries?

how many group per campaign? what will you make group?

how many ads per campaign? how many ads in per group?

Need demographies- age, gender and device? best which device? and schedule?

Will i enable manual bid or enchaned bid?

Some musical motivation

1. Do you use dynamic text in your ads or do your ads get a good CTR without this?

2. Do you use a separate landing page for each ad group to improve the QS or do you use just one lander for each campaign?

You should definitely include mobile phones as a device where your ads will be shown. I get a lot of cheap traffic from mobile only. And it converts as well!

Just getting started with Bing PPC/Affiliate marketing so this has been great to read!

Great info . . . good things to know.

And a good example of how a LOT of testing is necessary to succeed at this kind of thing . . . a lot of newbies do a very small test, "fail" and quit, instead of understanding that you need to try a lot of options, and optimize and improve etc.

thanks !

Chris

That's impressive to see the breakdown what product and click bank did you promote and was a seriously limited amount of keywords

Alright guys long time without updates .

Well, right now I am working mainly on scaling up the 3 campaigns that are working from me. I am definitely not done with them and I believe there is a lot of potential in them. Right now my sales get better and better, more and more I start to see over 100$ days.

Last month was a little bad. I spend 700$ on ppc and got 45 sales and 2 refunds, that is around 1030$ income so 330$ earnings.
This months looks much more promising since I am starting to scale up and I believe my goal will be easily reached with these 3 campaigns. Once I am done with scaling up I can start more and more campaigns with much better success chances since my confidence will be much higher in what I am doing.

This is how the last months look



These are today stats

Had my best day ever today 176$

Great job! Question for you, I have 80 clicks on one product so far and no sales. How many clicks more before I should start looking for another product? Would appreciate any help!!

I gotta say, this is an encouraging thread. I'm excited for you! I've learned first hand this isn't easy and it takes quite of bit of work and research.

I've ran one campaign that was a failure after testing 3 landing pages and 5 ads. 180 clicks in I paused it. My ads seemed good, my landing pages were probably the problem, idk. Maybe the clickbank product just had a crappy sales page too.

I'm in the middle of my 2nd campaign now, but it seems to be really slow going for traffic. I'm on day 2 and only 35 clicks in... Got my first sale direct linking on this one so now I'm building a few landing pages to split test.

Do you mind sharing what type of info you are putting on your landing pages? Bullet points of benefits? A short review? I think this is were I could use the most help. I probably need to hit higher search volume niches/products too.

This is one of the most inspirational "journey" threads I've ever read. Thank you for continuing to update this thread and keep us posted!

Like you, I dabbled in IM a while back and then went off to college (also in Computer Science!). Now that I'm done and working, I'm ready to re-live the IM lifestyle for good! So, I'm going to follow you closely and hopefully mimic your success!

I do have couple of questions though:

1) Are you designing your own LPs? If so, what do you use? Instabuilder?
2) What do you use for tracking?

Actually nothing good, the sales dropped hard the day the Hurricane Matthew hit and hardly recovered. I had 3 campaigns that were doing pretty good but now I left with 2 that show no signs of recovery to the normal income level.

I am also rethinking the strategy, basically what I did untill now is sort of "scavanging" niche campaigns in a non competetive, but pretty small niches. Now I am looking to get into bigger market where it is possible to do a 100-200$ a day from 1 subniche campaign. I want to get involved in 1 market, learn it and stick with it and now I am considering what would it be (weght loss, diabetes, Arthritis are in review). I plan to stick with PPC only for now since I have a lot more to learn.

I also need to learn Landing page optomization and basic design, because my landing pages suck and I don't think I can compete in the big markets like that.

Another reason for no updates is because our Israel post services suck, I did not get yet even the first check from clickbank, alhough it was sent 3 week ago and my cashflow status is not promising.

Well, here are the updates. I promise to keep this thread alive and hope there will be some good things to update

really cool thread,

when do u plan on starting on the bigger niches?

-Ike Paz

Well, today I paused the last 2 campaigns I had since they only spend money right now. I am looking for answers and not sitting still, I will probably not update here for a few weeks until I will get everything in place in my head because now I see that although I had some profits and have some potential, there is still a mess in my head about what works, why it works and how to make it better.

Well, till next update

Well, I've been reading a lot of material in the last few days trying to alanyze where the heck I messed up and what's wrong with my campaigns and maybe the whole attitude to the Affiliate Marketing. I came up with few conclusions and decided to share them with you:

1. Number one is the greatest because it actually is going to change the whole work plan and it is - campaigns have a limited life span and you never know when they are going to be profitable. I was kind of denying this fact, although I knew it. I guess I had to hear/read it from an authority IM figure to actually accept it. Don''t know why, probably because I think I am a smart *ss. So from know on the gameplan is simple - milk the last cent from this campaign as long as you can!

2. Playing in small pools - this one is also shocked me a little bit because since I ever did AM I was with the attitude that the money is in the niches. WRONG! Money is in big markets with wide appeal. Since every campaign is going to stop converting or being profitable, in big money markets you can scale it up a lot while it's still alive and keep yourself a nice profit.

3. Not scaling up what I had - My best campaign was around 200 clicks a day on average but I acted like a coward and did not scale it up. I should have let all its keywords run on broad match the day I understood this is going to make me money but instead I played it safe because I though its going to bring me money for a long time. What a foolish decision!

4. Not testing enough landing pages and not split testing the key elements in them to increase convertion rates. This happened actually because I know very little about buildng good landing pages. I build mine from examples I have seen but knew very little what elements were most important, creating trust and all the stuuf that makes the sales come in. I actually lost a lot of money because of this.

Well, these are the lessons I learned. Keep working from here. I'll update

Thanks for an interesting thread. Recently, I gave up on Bing and Clickbank. I have previously earned more than $10,000 in commissions with Clickbank using PPC. I found that the greatest was what you stated in 1. I found the the campaigns had a limited lifespan, far more limited than campaigns in Maxbounty, Shareasale, and Commission Junction. Another frustration was that Bing does not bring a lot of traffic and that makes it difficult to optimize.

So far, my experience with landing pages have been disappointing when compared with direct linking. It is not that my landing page was not converting, it was that I was getting a markedly reduced CTR even if the ads were identical. It seems that people are recognizing the merchant's domain and were more likely to click on a direct link ad.

Well, I registered on StackThatMoney forum and I am learning from there a lot.

The first thing I understood there is completely reversed to what I was thinking till today -
BROAD match is good thing, use it! This is basically the quickest way to build big campaigns that will pay for all the failed ones. So once you see a sale or two in a niche - go broad, don't be afraid!

These guys run PPV campaigns for 40$ CPAs on NETWORK. This is how you make money, every other way will never open the full potential of a campaign and will get you stuck in the XX zone for campaign,that will die as quick as the big campaigns and leave you with peanuts.

They also do not guess which product will sale, they usually rotate few of them, which by the way were picked with Affiliate manager help.

And they always play in markets which have a lot of offers to choose from.

This is the update, I know this is not the best time to start any campaign in the health niche since all the holidays come soon and people could not care less about their hemorrhoids (lol) but I will think about starting one after clickbank will send me all my money through wire transfer and my cash flow will be full again! This time all my conclusions will apply!

Broad targeting works if you know what you are doing.

Most people went broke cause their campaign are not targeted
to the poorly defined keywords which cause quality score to drop.

Some of the well converting keywords are tagged as bad keywords
as a result of that.

Hi, can you share the Landing Page you are using we download. I can't seem to get a good LP to use.

Just wanted to say I did not quit this journey. On 9 Nov I supposed to get my payment with wire and then back to the business

I am going to test the broad match and see how it works, since I got wires now the cashflow issue should be over and that means I will be able to scale up much harder. The only doubt I have is the timing - don't know if this timing is the best for clickbank products since all the holydays are at the door.

Well, we'll live and see but I definetely did not quit - I am more motivated then ever!

I am back Had my first sale yesterday while applaying the broad match strategy

Today I am going to activate my old campaign that was getting me around 150 clicks a day - but now I want to scale it up. Then I am going to see how I can scale up the new campaign - find more keyowrds and see what's going on.

I worked my a** off today doing a lot of automation stuff because I simply got sick of submitting 20 landers to prosper, getting 20 landing page ids and then getting 20 links.

Rebuilt an old campaighns that brought me a lot of sales but suddebly tanked. Lets see if I can make some money of it the new way.

Well, the first campaign that got me a sale today does not show big potential, I got one sale from it today and one around a months before but stopped it back then. Well, the 2 conversions came from keywords I can not really work with because these guys were looking for a specialist in their problem field. Don't know what to do with that, let's see.

Tomorrow will start working on another one, this time from scratch. Want to go into a big niche, something that can bring me around 250 - 400 clicks a day. I think I can handle this kind of volume now and since I got weekly wires from CB, cashflow is not supposed to be an issue.

Wish me luck

Well, after some break I got another campaign that made me a sale yesterday, I am not going to miss that opportunity like I did with other campaigns. Iam working my a** off right now to scale the hell out of it. I will be using modified borad match all the way. I will be bidding on tons of keywords, optimizing the landing pages and I am aiming for at least 300 clicks a day for it as a first checkpoint. Wish me luck
If I succeed that I will release a case study where I will reveall all the details

Just binge read this entire post. I can't wait to hear more! Thanks for sharing this journey with us.

Stick with it mate. I aint had a bad year with PPV I hope this motivates you from a couple of my paypal accounts.

Awesome bro i am glad that you took action and you master ppc .I plan also to do this because with this you can work half hour per day and make profit comrable with free trafic where you must work all day

Impressive stuff in a relatively short space of time. Positive action yielded positive results.