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How To Get Targeted 1 Cent Clicks (PPC) On Microsoft Advertising (Formerly Bing Ads)

by wentzco
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So I thought I would share how I am getting targeted 1 cent clicks (PPC) on Microsoft Advertising (Formerly Bing Ads). These are clicks coming from Bing, MSN, Yahoo, AOL & sites owned/operated by Microsoft, Yahoo & AOL.

In this one campaign, I have a number of different ad groups targeting keyword/niche categories with a few different ads in each group. I also duplicate the ad groups (keywords & ads) but target them by countries. All of my keywords are set at "phrase match" - not broad match (I'm experimenting on "exact match" as well). I also end up adding negative keywords that I don't want by seeing the search terms people are using that trigger my keyword. It's all about getting more targeted visitors for the money spent.

Tier 1 countries with lower bid adjustments for non-US countries (US, Canada -25%, Australia -25%, UK -25%, New Zealand -35% & I also added Ireland -35% and recently removed Singapore with -65%)

EU countries (lower priced bids that Tier 1... will change it to Tier 2 with additional countries)

World - everywhere (bids set at 5-6 cents depending on ad group)

So my ad groups have names like Software Leads - Tier 1, Software Leads - EU, Software Leads - World for example.

Make sure when you do the location settings that you uncheck the box that says "People searching for or viewing pages about your targeted locations". You will waste a lot of money otherwise.



At the "Campaign Level", under Advanced campaign settings/Targeting - I did bid adjustments to decrease my bids based on device. I decreased my Desktop(includes laptops) bid by 50% because I feel it's a higher value click for my niche. I set the Tablet bid & Smartphone bid at a decrease of 75%. I also should mention that for this campaign, I do have the Demographic setting changed for a 90% decrease for gender "Male" because I want to target women but quite honestly I don't think it does a great job at this aspect.

Now I could change these device settings for each ad group but I find changing it at the campaign level is easier. If I'm willing to pay 50 cents for a Tier 1 country desktop/laptop click than I can set the bid at $1.00 because there is a 50% decrease on desktop bids.


Now I'll show you what occurred yesterday for one of my ad groups targeted at the world (everywhere) with bids set at 5 cents


Devices


Computers -50% Bid adjustment, 11 clicks, 1,791 Impressions, 0.61% CTR, 0.02 Ave. CPC, 5.71 Ave. Pos., Spend 0.21

Smartphones -75% Bid adjustment, 92 clicks, 14,037 Impressions, 0.66% CTR, 0.01 Ave. CPC, 3.57 Ave. Pos., Spend 0.92

Tablets -75% Bid adjustment, 5 clicks, 239 Impressions, 2.09% CTR, 0.01 Ave. CPC, 4.69 Ave. Pos., Spend 0.05


As you can see, I'm getting 1 cent clicks for the Smartphones & Tablets. I also am getting some for desktops even though it is at a 50% decrease bid adjustment. I'm sure if I set that at 75%, all desktop/laptop clicks would be at 1 cent as well. I highly doubt there would many Tier 1 country clicks at 1 cent because of competition but maybe there are a few.

So if you are using PPC to sell products, services or gather leads where your market is world-wide... you can get targeted 1 cent clicks using the method I showed above. I hope it helps you out.


Larry Wentz
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  • Profile picture of the author vannguyen255
    Google ads nowadays is expensive.
    I am thinking to move to Microsoft too.
    Thanks for sharing your experience.
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    • Profile picture of the author luciesmazanska
      Originally Posted by vannguyen255 View Post

      Google ads nowadays is expensive.
      I am thinking to move to Microsoft too.
      Thanks for sharing your experience.
      I never heard about Microsoft ads, and Im in IM for more than 8yrs
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  • Profile picture of the author Reddevil007
    Some good PPC pointers by the OP and yes this should apply well to Bing ads too
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  • Profile picture of the author dburk
    Hi Warriors,

    There's a reason that you can purchase clicks off of Bing, and Google Search for only a penny a click. That reason is that it is the smallest denomination of legal tender. The sad truth is that those clicks, in most cases, are worth far less than one penny in commercial value.

    That's right... I said it!

    If you focus on the cheapest clicks you will get the least value per click, in most cases the value is at or approximately zero.

    It's a waste of time and money, unless there is some special contest that awards the marketer with the cheapest click costs. Then and only then are you every going to profit from one penny clicks.

    Clicks that cost a penny are typically worth far less than a penny. What you are buying is traffic from PTC centers based in Bangladesh and other third world countries where people are paid as little as $8 per week to work 50-60 hours clicking on your ads, over and over, all day long.

    Think about it... if we could actually make a profit buying traffic for one penny a click why would anyone ever be willing to pay more than a penny?

    Marketers that focus on the one penny click don't make any money, except perhaps when they sell you a course on how to get one penny clicks, but their one penny clicks are losing money, not making a profit.

    Sorry, but bad advice is bad advice. Anyone teaching you how to get one cent clicks is teaching you how to lose money, and even worse time. You can always get more money, but once your time is lost you never get it back.

    HTH,

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    • Profile picture of the author wentzco
      Originally Posted by dburk View Post

      Sorry, but bad advice is bad advice. Anyone teaching you how to get one cent clicks is teaching you how to lose money, and even worse time. You can always get more money, but once your time is lost you never get it back.

      HTH,

      Don Burk

      Well I don't think Don really read my post and realizing I am paying a variety of PPC prices per click & yes some are at 1 cent for World countries. I also focus on Tier 1 & EU country ad campaigns as my post clearly states. Apparently he thinks countries outside of Tier 1 countries are worthless to market to & you shouldn't waste your time. I'll tell that to my latest affiliate upgrade sale out of Thailand that their purchase wasn't worth my time setting up an identical campaign to my Tier 1 countries in only about 3-5 minutes time that all my time was lost. Oh God... I'll never get that 3-5 minutes of time back!!!

      So Don you said Microsoft/Bing is selling "traffic from PTC centers based in Bangladesh and other third world countries where people are paid as little as $8 per week to work 50-60 hours clicking on your ads, over and over, all day long." Please provide some proof on that statement.

      Now I just translated some testimonials from your DonBurk (.com) site in your signature from the client testimonials page - Here is what they have to say -

      "Labor that obesity. Over the years come, who nostrud exercise. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Ut elit elit, luctus nec, mattis dapibus leo.
      Margaret Bates
      CFO at Initech

      In order to work, and obesity. Over the years come, who nostrud exercise. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Ut elit elit, luctus nec real estate, the lion of protein.
      Kevin Griffin
      CEO at Soylent

      In order to work, and obesity. Over the years come, who nostrud exercise. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Ut elit elit, luctus nec real estate, the lion of protein.
      Dylan Lawrence
      Co-Founder at Globex

      Labor that obesity. Over the years come, who nostrud exercise. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Ut elit elit, luctus nec, mattis dapibus leo.
      Nicole Bates
      Director at Dynamic

      Labor and to obesity. Over the years come, who nostrud exercise. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Ut elit elit, luctus nec, mattis dapibus leo.
      Joseph Franklin
      CEO at Vehement

      In order to work, and obesity. Over the years come, who nostrud exercise. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Ut elit elit, luctus nec real estate, the lion of protein.
      Lauren Greene
      CFO at hooles

      So I guess those testimonials prove your marketing expertise?


      Thank you Don for the laugh!


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      • Profile picture of the author sameolesong
        you missed his straight out the 90's site too at "DBurk."

        it's reloading & flashing so hard it's going to give someone a seizure
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        • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
          Originally Posted by sameolesong View Post

          you missed his straight out the 90's site too at "DBurk."

          it's reloading & flashing so hard it's going to give someone a seizure

          Hmm,

          dBurk.com - Need a web site upgrade? Want a site that gets results? Let us show you the true benefit of a well designed web site!

          Maybe Don needs to buy this???
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        • Profile picture of the author dburk
          Originally Posted by sameolesong View Post

          you missed his straight out the 90's site too at "DBurk."

          it's reloading & flashing so hard it's going to give someone a seizure
          Hi sameolesong,

          Hat tip to you, you are a master sleuth. You win the Internet for the day.

          You were close, that website was built probably around October 2000, I think. By the way it took me all of 7 minutes to build and launch, and it was an original design not a template or theme. I created it the same day AdWords was launched to the public.

          To date, the website has operated continuously for well over 165,000 hours.

          I keep it for nostalgic purposes because it brought my many clients back then, including one website that broke 7.5 billion in annual revenue. I guess i am a little sentimental , or nostalgic.

          The funny thing is about 2 or 3 years back people suddenly started complimenting me left and right over the design, turns out that the retro look was the latest web design trend there for a while and they were complimenting me for nailing it, LOL.

          Thanks for noticing.

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          • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
            Originally Posted by dburk View Post

            Hi sameolesong,

            Hat tip to you, you are a master sleuth. You win the Internet for the day.

            You were close, that website was built probably around October 2000, I think. By the way it took me all of 7 minutes to build and launch, and it was an original design not a template or theme. I created it the same day AdWords was launched to the public.

            To date, the website has operated continuously for well over 165,000 hours.

            I keep it for nostalgic purposes because it brought my many clients back then, including one website that broke 7.5 billion in annual revenue. I guess i am a little sentimental , or nostalgic.

            The funny thing is about 2 or 3 years back people suddenly started complimenting me left and right over the design, turns out that the retro look was the latest web design trend there for a while and they were complimenting me for nailing it, LOL.

            Thanks for noticing.

            Don Burk

            Hello Don

            Well I can understand now when you say you have just kept that website online for nostalgic purposes.

            I guess it is a more practical way of keeping your memories alive, and a lot less bulky than your first website's, that you likely had to carve on stone tablets.

            But still, I wouldn't throw those ones away either. At your age and in just a few more years they will be the ones that will have the most value to you. You can just leave them lying around on the floors in your house, then every time you stub your toes on one, then hopefully it might trigger some memory of your distant past.

            I do understand how these memories, from the mists of time, can be so comforting. The only problem I see you having with the online website, is that you will need to be able to remember your name in order to go and visit it. That's why the stone carved ones will be the most valuable to you in the end. And another idea I have here too, if I umm, dare to mention it. Carved stone tablets do look a bit like tombstones! Just saying, but when the time comes you could save a bit of money that way!

            And no, I'm not just a cheeky little British brat!!! lol.

            Love from
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      • Profile picture of the author dburk
        Originally Posted by wentzco View Post

        Well I don't think Don really read my post and realizing I am paying a variety of PPC prices per click & yes some are at 1 cent for World countries. I also focus on Tier 1 & EU country ad campaigns as my post clearly states. Apparently he thinks countries outside of Tier 1 countries are worthless to market to & you shouldn't waste your time. I'll tell that to my latest affiliate upgrade sale out of Thailand that their purchase wasn't worth my time setting up an identical campaign to my Tier 1 countries in only about 3-5 minutes time that all my time was lost. Oh God... I'll never get that 3-5 minutes of time back!!!
        Hi Larry,

        Sorry if I hurt your feelings, no malice was intended, I just wanted to head off any WF members that my be seduced by the siren call of $0.01 clicks on the search networks.

        I see now that you may have taken my reply as personal, it wasn't meant to be personal, just protective of other members here.

        You assert that I think "countries outside of Tier 1 countries are worthless". To be clear I never said that, you said it. There is plenty of value in other traffic from most countries, so I won't try to defend your assertion. I'm sorry if I didn't state it clearly enough.

        I did say that "one cent clicks" (that's the distinction) are nearly worthless, and from my years of experience that has been true. I will assert it again, once cent clicks are worth less than one cent on average regardless of which country. It's the value of the click that matters. If nearly all of those clicks are originating from PTC it's a complete waste of time and money.

        Originally Posted by wentzco View Post

        So Don you said Microsoft/Bing is selling "traffic from PTC centers based in Bangladesh and other third world countries where people are paid as little as $8 per week to work 50-60 hours clicking on your ads, over and over, all day long." Please provide some proof on that statement. .
        You have all the proof you need within your Marketing Analytics. If you need help spotting that data you're welcome to grant me "report only" access to your Google Analytics and I'll be happy provide a report that shows exactly where your penny per click traffic is originating from, server logs can be substituted if you don't have a GA account.

        If you are tracking the Value Per Click data you will likely see that it is less than a penny and yielding a negative ROI. I think we all would be impressed if that is not true. Please share if I am wrong.


        Originally Posted by wentzco View Post

        Now I just translated some testimonials from your DonBurk (.com) site in your signature from the client testimonials page - Here is what they have to say -

        "Labor that obesity. Over the years come, who nostrud exercise. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Ut elit elit, luctus nec, mattis dapibus leo.
        Margaret Bates
        CFO at Initech

        In order to work, and obesity. Over the years come, who nostrud exercise. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Ut elit elit, luctus nec real estate, the lion of protein.
        Kevin Griffin
        CEO at Soylent

        In order to work, and obesity. Over the years come, who nostrud exercise. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Ut elit elit, luctus nec real estate, the lion of protein.
        Dylan Lawrence
        Co-Founder at Globex

        Labor that obesity. Over the years come, who nostrud exercise. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Ut elit elit, luctus nec, mattis dapibus leo.
        Nicole Bates
        Director at Dynamic

        Labor and to obesity. Over the years come, who nostrud exercise. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Ut elit elit, luctus nec, mattis dapibus leo.
        Joseph Franklin
        CEO at Vehement

        In order to work, and obesity. Over the years come, who nostrud exercise. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Ut elit elit, luctus nec real estate, the lion of protein.
        Lauren Greene
        CFO at hooles

        So I guess those testimonials prove your marketing expertise?


        Thank you Don for the laugh!

        Larry
        So you decided to take it personal and look for a way take me down a few notches eh?

        I got a good laugh out of that too.

        That's a website that I'm currently using to train a couple of new employees, by letting them design and build the entire website from scratch. Not many business people read this forum anymore so congratulations to you for your expert sleuthing. You caught me with my digital pants down. Ha ha... The website is a training tool for a my new employee in training, We tear it down and rebuild it many times over the course of a year. You are welcome to check back in a few weeks to see how they are progressing. You might actually be impressed.

        By the way, I welcome public scrutiny from all sincere posters on this forum, by listening to others and looking for a grain of truth we can all learn things from time-to-time. This forum used to be a magnificent place to discuss marketing ideas back in the day when real marketers and business owners used to hang out here.

        There are very few real business owners here these days, but I enjoy discussions on those rare occasion one drops by to discuss marketing. Feel free to put me in my place is you see the need, I don't mind a bit.

        HTH,

        Don Burk
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  • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
    Hello Wentzco

    I don't know why you are picking on his testimonials though Larry. All those testimonials are in Zahalli. Don't you speak Zahalli? One clue is in "the lion of protein", only Zahallian's say that!
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    • Profile picture of the author wentzco
      Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

      Hello Wentzco

      I don't know why you are picking on his testimonials though Larry. All those testimonials are in Zahalli. Don't you speak Zahalli? One clue is in "the lion of protein", only Zahallian's say that!

      LOL - I think it's actually a combo of languages used by Don's clients in their testimonials. Google translator was rather confused & initially said "try out Bing for this one".
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      • Profile picture of the author dburk
        Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

        Hmm,

        dBurk.com - Need a web site upgrade? Want a site that gets results? Let us show you the true benefit of a well designed web site!

        Maybe Don needs to buy this???
        Try you might like it!

        Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

        Hello Wentzco

        I don't know why you are picking on his testimonials though Larry. All those testimonials are in Zahalli. Don't you speak Zahalli? One clue is in "the lion of protein", only Zahallian's say that!
        LOL, Zahalli? Never heard of it. Which galaxy is that in?

        I'm pretty sure it's Russian, as I think the guy who created that template was a Russian developer, but I could be wrong, tell me more about Zahalli, is it a good place to vacation?

        Originally Posted by wentzco View Post

        LOL - I think it's actually a combo of languages used by Don's clients in their testimonials. Google translator was rather confused & initially said "try out Bing for this one".
        LOL, if you ever figure it out do let us know, because I sure have no clue who those people are or what language they speaketh.
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  • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
    Hello Don

    Re:

    Originally Posted by LindyUK

    Hello Wentzco

     I don't know why you are picking on his testimonials though Larry. All those testimonials are in Zahalli. Don't you speak Zahalli? One clue is in "the lion of protein", only Zahallian's say that!

    Then Don Burk says: (Just repeating what he said as he posted his reply at least 5 minutes ago so likely forgotten what he said by now)


    "LOL, Zahalli? Never heard of it. Which galaxy is that in?

    I'm pretty sure it's Russian, as I think the guy who created that template was a Russian developer, but I could be wrong, tell me more about Zahalli, is it a good place to vacation?"


    Geez Don, am I the only one that knows anything in here? I gave out the clue. Where do lions come from? Obviously it's a country on the African continent, cause that's where lions come from. It's not well known cause it hasn't really been found yet, another reason why I gave out the clue about lions.

    "Is it a good place to vacation?" Again, Geez!!!, you guys that only use your heads to put hats on - Since it hasn't really been found yet, that means not many people go there, so that means no planes and no trains. And if you think you can just drive there, think again, they havn't even invented roads there yet.

    So that means you have to walk, and at your age that is likely dangerous. To start with you could likely not even outpace an Achatina Fulica (you better write that down or you'll forget that in a minute, but it's a giant African snail)

    Then when we are talking about walking I have to mention there are Black Mambas. No they are not native born Mommas, they are great big long snakes that if you come across them even in passing, will chase you down. And they are fast, really fast, and nasty too!. Then there are heaps of other wild things that will kill and eat you. That's another reason as to why Zahallia is not well known, nobody has come back from there yet.

    So why would you even want to ask about having a vacation in Zahallia? The only reason I can think of is maybe your cheap, maybe you think you can save a lot of money by going there, especially in the off season, since they havn't invented money there either yet.

    Just take my word about it, since I obviously know much more about this then you do - just don't go there. If you ignore what I tell you, I can just picture it now. You will be trying to fight off an 18 foot Black Mamba with your walking stick, while a heap of other wild animals form on the sidelines to watch. All thinking to themselves, if it doesn't get him we sure as hell will. And you'll be thinking to yourself, I should have listened to Lindy, I should have listened!

    Hope that helps you, my final advice is just go to Vegas or something!

    Cheers
    Lindy.
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  • Profile picture of the author dburk
    Whoah...

    Somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

    This place seems to be attracting hate filled twits that think they know something just because they can trash talk and learned a few cyber bullying tactics like doxing and insolent insults. It's not knowledge, it's just hatred eating your soul.

    If that sounds like you,find something meaningful, and good, to fill that hole in your soul.

    I hope you feel better soon.

    HTH,

    Don Burk
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    • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
      Originally Posted by dburk View Post

      Whoah...

      Somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

      This place seems to be attracting hate filled twits that think they know something just because they can trash talk and learned a few cyber bullying tactics like doxing and insolent insults. It's not knowledge, it's just hatred eating your soul.

      If that sounds like you,find something meaningful, and good, to fill that hole in your soul.

      I hope you feel better soon.

      HTH,

      Don Burk

      Hello Don

      Are you meaning my replies to you? There is no hate, trash talk or cyber bullying in those replies. I wrote them to be funny replies to you.

      I am English so perhaps you don't get my sense of humour. Next time I'll try to add the canned laughter like I see in those American TV sitcoms, then you will know when you are supposed to laugh. lol.

      But actually, your reply sounds like it was YOU who got up on the wrong side of the bed, not me. So what didn't you like about my replies, the fact that I was razzing you a bit about your age? That was clearly in jest, I did confirm you were Grand Pa age from your photos in Facebook and Pinterest, so that was the focus of my razz or tease. Where my razz failed is that I didn't realize you were a grumpy old Grand Pa, and would take things so seriously. lol.

      But lets cover a few little points from above conversations:

      You answered sameolesong with the following reply about your dburk website: "I keep it for nostalgic purposes because it brought my many clients back then. - I guess i am a little sentimental, or nostalgic". I actually thought it was nice that you would keep your old website for the memories it would bring you, and so my razz was about that as well as your age, hinting that you likely have been doing this for so long you likely had to carve out your first websites on stone tablets.

      But it now looks to me as if that is the website you are still using for your Agency, it has obviously been slightly updated with a spokesperson video and live chat, and you have updated copyright to 2019. But Don, really, it looks as old as the hills and certainly not a good image for a modern day Agency. Sure it may have been cutting edge in it's time but that was in the year 2000, a long long time ago. It doesn't have the look or features that a modern day website needs, so in itself it will put off people or business's that are looking for a new website or a website design. Truly it will.

      Then when you say: " By the way it took me all of 7 minutes to build and launch, and it was an original design not a template or theme." Come on Don, I don't believe that at all. My Dad taught me HTML coding for website design so I have an idea of how long it would take to do that website, simple as it is, and it's certainly not 7 minutes. I don't know why you would say that when it's obviously not true. Even in today's world where we mainly use templates and wordpress, no one is going to come out with a finished website in 7 minutes.

      Then you replied to wentzco on his comments about your DonBurk website: "That's a website that I'm currently using to train a couple of new employees, by letting them design and build the entire website from scratch. The website is a training tool for a my new employee in training, We tear it down and rebuild it many times over the course of a year."

      Why would you use a live website under your main DonBurk domain name, as a training website for new employees? We train new employees on website design too, but we use domains especially set up for training purposes, that would never be found or associated with our Agency name. A search for your name or Agency will find this unfinished website, certainly again not good for your professional image. (Same with your unfinished Facebook page, started in 2016 and with no real entries. People check out business's on Facebook now. Same with your Pinterest)

      Now I am not trying to bring you down in any way, but you said this: "This place seems to be attracting hate filled twits that think they know something just because they can trash talk and learned a few cyber bullying tactics like doxing and insolent insults. It's not knowledge, it's just hatred eating your soul."

      Part (or maybe all) of that was aimed at me, as your reply was obviously aimed at me after my razzing of you. You possibly equate age with experience and knowledge, and in making that comment you are trying to bring me down some. Age has nothing to do with knowledge if you don't keep up. You may have more years of experience then me but I doubt you have a fraction of the knowledge. I also doubt that in those years you come even close to matching the size of the Agency that I run.

      And again, I am not trying to "take you down a notch", I was just having some fun with you, that should have been obvious, but you turned this serious with your comments about cyber bullying tactics, insolent insults and so on.

      Cheers
      Lindy
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      • Profile picture of the author dburk
        Originally Posted by LindyUK View Post

        Hello Don

        Are you meaning my replies to you? There is no hate, trash talk or cyber bullying in those replies. I wrote them to be funny replies to you.

        I am English so perhaps you don't get my sense of humour. Next time I'll try to add the canned laughter like I see in those American TV sitcoms, then you will know when you are supposed to laugh. lol.

        Cheers
        Lindy
        Hi Lindy,

        Thanks for that clarification.

        The forum provides emoticons express for that purpose. Please add a smiley or grin to let us know when you're joking.

        Best regards,

        Don Burk
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        • Profile picture of the author LindyUK
          Originally Posted by dburk View Post

          Hi Lindy,

          Thanks for that clarification.

          The forum provides emoticons express for that purpose. Please add a smiley or grin to let us know when you're joking.

          Best regards,

          Don Burk

          Geez Don, is our English humour so different to yours over there? I thought my stories themselves were so crazy creative that you would see I was razzing you.

          Now I better explain what razzing means. It's my own word for teasing. I made it up years ago when I used to go into MSN Chat Forums to chat up American Guys. Now I think about it, some of them would get quite confused too about some things I said.

          But there was another hidden clue too that you should have noticed if you had your glasses on. I signed off to you with Love from Lindy, where everyone else was just getting Cheers.

          But I'v made note of your advice. I'v now got: American's need both canned laughter PLUS smily emoticons to know when I'm razzing them! lol.

          But thanks for your refrained reply this time, I was expecting something else from a "Grumpy Old Grand Pa".

          Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author ibramster
    Whilst I found and can understand why the post is good I was lost in the terminology that you used, such as % decrease and others. As someone that is new to PPC can these terms and others be explained please?
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    • Profile picture of the author wentzco
      Originally Posted by ibramster View Post

      Whilst I found and can understand why the post is good I was lost in the terminology that you used, such as % decrease and others. As someone that is new to PPC can these terms and others be explained please?

      % decrease (or increase) is something you change in your campaign (I use device settings there) or ad group settings so you can target locations, devices the searcher uses, day, time, age or gender.

      So for example, in an ad group that I have targeting a specific keyword phrase (or vastly similar phrases... I use few different ad titles in the ad group & Bing uses best matching ad) which I target "Tier 1" countries. In the "Settings" of that ad group I have the US at an increase of 0% but have decreased the amount of my bid for other countries by making a bid adjustment > Canada -25%, Australia -25%, UK -25%, New Zealand -35% & Ireland -35%. So if I was willing to pay a max of $1.00 for a bid coming from someone in the US searching... the max I would be be paying from Canada would be $0.75 or New Zealand of $0.65.

      Now you can also decrease (or increase) the device the searcher uses - desktop, tablet or smartphone. Currently my settings are at the "Campaign Level" (under Advanced campaign settings/Targeting) - I did bid adjustments as follows Desktop (includes laptops) bid by a decrease of -50% because I feel it's a higher value click for my niche. I set the Tablet bid at -50% as well now. Smartphone bid is at a decrease of -83%. So I have ad group targeting all locations (world) with bids set at $0.06 - the max I would be charged for desktop user searcher clicking on my ad would be $0.03 and if they were using a smartphone - only 1 cent is what I would pay. Note - specifically I don't set my desktop settings at 0% increase as I want to pay less then the minimum 5 cent bid for "World" bids.

      Bing has a page with an explanation for bid adjustment targeting at https://help.ads.microsoft.com/#apex/3/en/51004/1/en-us/#ext:adgroup_load
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      • Profile picture of the author ibramster
        wentzco Let me see if I have this right. You set USA at 0% then Oz at -25% meaning that you have set USA as your base bid price in that this is the price to base all other click costs on. Therefore OZ would be a price of USA-25%?
        You can set all this in MS Ads? I need to get in there on some long tail keywords that the 'pay for the expensive click' boys don't use.
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        • Profile picture of the author wentzco
          Originally Posted by ibramster View Post

          wentzco Let me see if I have this right. You set USA at 0% then Oz at -25% meaning that you have set USA as your base bid price in that this is the price to base all other click costs on. Therefore OZ would be a price of USA-25%?
          You can set all this in MS Ads? I need to get in there on some long tail keywords that the 'pay for the expensive click' boys don't use.

          Correct - I tried to find a page that showed some good image examples and this one will work - https://www.karooya.com/blog/reachin...s-in-bing-ads/


          I've got a pretty thorough keyword list so currently I have my match type settings at exact match. It's best if you experiment by switching between exact match & phrase match. I've noticed Bing is pretty good that bids you are charged aren't usually your max bid by the way.


          Again - Make sure when you do the location settings that you uncheck the box that says "People searching for or viewing pages about your targeted locations". They have that auto-checked which I wish they wouldn't do.


          Larry
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          • Profile picture of the author ibramster
            Larry, thank you
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    I'm for the one cent campaign. Tell me more how it worked out.
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  • Profile picture of the author kasmanishafi
    Originally Posted by wentzco View Post

    So I thought I would share how I am getting targeted 1 cent clicks (PPC) on Microsoft Advertising (Formerly Bing Ads). These are clicks coming from Bing, MSN, Yahoo, AOL & sites owned/operated by Microsoft, Yahoo & AOL.

    In this one campaign, I have a number of different ad groups targeting keyword/niche categories with a few different ads in each group. I also duplicate the ad groups (keywords & ads) but target them by countries. All of my keywords are set at "phrase match" - not broad match (I'm experimenting on "exact match" as well). I also end up adding negative keywords that I don't want by seeing the search terms people are using that trigger my keyword. It's all about getting more targeted visitors for the money spent.

    Tier 1 countries with lower bid adjustments for non-US countries (US, Canada -25%, Australia -25%, UK -25%, New Zealand -35% & I also added Ireland -35% and recently removed Singapore with -65%)

    EU countries (lower priced bids that Tier 1... will change it to Tier 2 with additional countries)

    World - everywhere (bids set at 5-6 cents depending on ad group)

    So my ad groups have names like Software Leads - Tier 1, Software Leads - EU, Software Leads - World for example.

    Make sure when you do the location settings that you uncheck the box that says "People searching for or viewing pages about your targeted locations". You will waste a lot of money otherwise.



    At the "Campaign Level", under Advanced campaign settings/Targeting - I did bid adjustments to decrease my bids based on device. I decreased my Desktop(includes laptops) bid by 50% because I feel it's a higher value click for my niche. I set the Tablet bid & Smartphone bid at a decrease of 75%. I also should mention that for this campaign, I do have the Demographic setting changed for a 90% decrease for gender "Male" because I want to target women but quite honestly I don't think it does a great job at this aspect.

    Now I could change these device settings for each ad group but I find changing it at the campaign level is easier. If I'm willing to pay 50 cents for a Tier 1 country desktop/laptop click than I can set the bid at $1.00 because there is a 50% decrease on desktop bids.


    Now I'll show you what occurred yesterday for one of my ad groups targeted at the world (everywhere) with bids set at 5 cents


    Devices


    Computers -50% Bid adjustment, 11 clicks, 1,791 Impressions, 0.61% CTR, 0.02 Ave. CPC, 5.71 Ave. Pos., Spend 0.21

    Smartphones -75% Bid adjustment, 92 clicks, 14,037 Impressions, 0.66% CTR, 0.01 Ave. CPC, 3.57 Ave. Pos., Spend 0.92

    Tablets -75% Bid adjustment, 5 clicks, 239 Impressions, 2.09% CTR, 0.01 Ave. CPC, 4.69 Ave. Pos., Spend 0.05


    As you can see, I'm getting 1 cent clicks for the Smartphones & Tablets. I also am getting some for desktops even though it is at a 50% decrease bid adjustment. I'm sure if I set that at 75%, all desktop/laptop clicks would be at 1 cent as well. I highly doubt there would many Tier 1 country clicks at 1 cent because of competition but maybe there are a few.

    So if you are using PPC to sell products, services or gather leads where your market is world-wide... you can get targeted 1 cent clicks using the method I showed above. I hope it helps you out.


    Larry Wentz

    if keywords below 1000 impression per month and I did above this method ! if less impression or normal impression?
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    • Profile picture of the author wentzco
      Originally Posted by kasmanishafi View Post

      if keywords below 1000 impression per month and I did above this method ! if less impression or normal impression?

      I honestly don't understand your question
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    I'm bookmarking this one. I was just getting ready to launch a Bing PPC campaign... Much appreciated!
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  • Profile picture of the author culpetm
    So I did go ahead and set up a campaign using the advice above. It definitely works. I got tons of 2 and 3 cents clicks. 90% were from India (which is fine for my purposes). Much appreciated!
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    • Profile picture of the author wentzco
      Originally Posted by culpetm View Post

      So I did go ahead and set up a campaign using the advice above. It definitely works. I got tons of 2 and 3 cents clicks. 90% were from India (which is fine for my purposes). Much appreciated!

      With a -75% Bid adjustment & if you are bidding 5 or 6 cents... you should be getting 1 cent clicks. But then I do set my desktop bids at 50% so those are often 2-3 cents.
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      • Profile picture of the author culpetm
        Originally Posted by wentzco View Post

        With a -75% Bid adjustment & if you are bidding 5 or 6 cents... you should be getting 1 cent clicks. But then I do set my desktop bids at 50% so those are often 2-3 cents.
        Yep. 1 cent clicks now... on mobile... 3 cents on desktop... Thanks!
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