[ryanedmunds]

I think the reason most people consider GDI a scam is that there are many scammers marketing it as a turnkey business when it really is nothing more than highly basic web hosting.

The 7 day trial is legit but the fact is that phone cancellation process is nearly impossible. I got sucked in to GDI once and honestly felt very scammed. The phone cancellation process kept me on hold for an extended period of time and then disconnected.

I tried this many times with the same results. After some googling, I found the only safe bet for cancelling GDI service:

Cancel your paypal subscription. They will send you notifications of overdue payment, but those can rest easy in your bulk mailbox. This was the only way I could get out of GDI.

[dchestnut]

I agree, the word scam is grossly overused. Surely you need to do your due diligence when considering business opportunities, but carelessly throwing the word scam around cast a negative shadow, not only on GDI, but virtually all network marketing and home based opportunities. The news media loves to use the word scam or scheme to scare the general public away from such opportunities which makes our jobs increasingly harder as we seek to promote opportunities.

That said, GDI offers a business system, not just a product or service. A business system can be defined as a product or service wrapped around an income producing or business development environment. Of course, the business system here is the network marketing opportunity. Now, the Federal Trade Commission (FDI) has established guidelines as to what defines a "valid" product or service to legally justify paying commission against and GDI pass that test years ago. Otherwise, they will not still be around.

So, yes you do pay a premium for the business opportunity in this case, but not very much when considering alternatives. For example, I also have a Godaddy hosting account for $6.99/month. I paid $10/year for my domain name. That equates to about 0.83/month. So, together my monthly cost is $7.82/month. Now, GDI has do-it-yourself templates and my Godaddy account does not. So, let's say the fact that my Godaddy account doesn't have templates cost me $1.00/month. Now my Godaddy cost is at $8.82/month. So, my business opportunity premium is only $1.18/month. I think it's worth it.

[salifhomebiz]

Wow what a spirit debate for $10 bucks a month!

This is a support forum for God sake! Please try to keep a business attitude as some of
us still consider this a Business opportunity.If you are not willing to risk something you
can not expect any reward.

The whole idea about PIPS is to promote one thing and one thing only: PIPS!
please get back to basics and read the first day of the training, and stop trying
to reinvent the wheel!

Does any one here has completed the 30 days PIPS training exactly as Mr Stone put it
together and did not make any money? Please let me know!

Bad things usually happens when good people stay on the side line, and we should no
longer let other people put us down when we are trying very hard to move forward by lifting each other.

I do not mean any disrespect to anyone but just because we live in a free society does
not mean we should put a negative label on other people business.

Now can we get back to the business at hand: supporting each other in promoting our PIPS, that is the only thing that should really matter.

[chooch]

I just look at it as an affiliate fee. Like Empowerism and MyWorldPlus charge $19.95 per month to be an affiliate. So it's less than those two. Plus you get a website.

[Willmarathon]

"Does any one here has completed the 30 days PIPS training exactly as Mr Stone put it together and did not make any money? Please let me know!"
Didn't help. I have done more from my own inventions than what was offered in
the 30 Day training. However, the GetResponse 400 email newsletter is utterly priceless and GetResponse lead pricing is excellent. I now have 5 autoresponder campaigns and am starting a 6th.
But to get back to Global Domains International. If you join the group I am in you
have everyone promoting the next person in line until everyone has a downline of 6
so that a 6 levels deep you are making $9,330 a month. That is real support, not
just authoritatively enforced "positive speak" or hype. I want to emphasize I did not mention the group name nor use any link. I just state that as an example of what I have found that really works.

[Arjan van de Laak]

Did you mean PowerPath GDI, that one is solid. I think its the biggest group building their GDI downlines. They figure that you can't do it alone (true), but with 700 + members all promoting it, and sharing the signups fairly its quite a safe bet. But it will take a couple of years to get the full downline.

[bless1]

Are you using a ws domain name? If you have your own pre-registered domain name before joining, or, if you take the one they offer out of the cart before signing up, then you don't get charged until after the free trial period. Hope this helps

[anan7alp]

Is anyone a member of powerpathgdi? i saw the website and i am thinking to join to get more downline as they claim.

[gcornel]

Thanks for that explanation Patricia. By far yours is the most in depth and truthful explanation of the "decisions" we as entrepreneurs have to make. No program will ever be 100% perfect and we have to chose what to value and what not to. For every success story, no matter what program it is, there is someone who it did not work for whatever the reason. We tend to use the word scam when we haven't even worked the system! GDI is not a favorite of mine by any means, but it has been great for some people, and for them I say "Congrats"! I try to stay focused on the overall excellent startegy and structure that PIPS offers, and I am sure that as we continue to grow and develop it will only get better. GDI is more of a "quick sale" because "FREE" and "only $10 a month" sounds good to the inexperienced newbie. So if its marketed on a broad basis it can bring in big numers just through the bonuses. It's the residual part that will be hard to maintain after people realize it's not such a great deal afterall!!

[gcornel]

So true...lol
I would rather focus my energy on the positives...build my business and work to make things better for everyone...

[Willmarathon]

Originally Posted by Arjan van de Laak

Did you mean PowerPath GDI, that one is solid. I think its the biggest group building their GDI downlines. They figure that you can't do it alone (true), but with 700 + members all promoting it, and sharing the signups fairly its quite a safe bet. But it will take a couple of years to get the full downline.

No, I am a member of GDI Fast Track Team and PowerPathGDIs new guarantee that everyone will make $9,330 a month in GDI and $22,000 a
month in MoneyFish downline is absolutely against the October 2009
FTC Guidelines: FTC Publishes Final Guides Governing Endorsements, Testimonials
Forgive me for placing a URL here but is a US government URL everyone should know.

What I am referring to is what came into effect in October 2009 concerning the requirement to explain what an average participant would make and not the top performer, as in many ads that always mention $9,330. That is not what the average participant makes as a commission.

Specifically, I am referring to this statement:
"Under the revised Guides, advertisements that feature a consumer and convey his or her experience with a product or service as typical when that is not the case will be required to clearly disclose the results that consumers can generally expect. In contrast to the 1980 version of the Guides – which allowed advertisers to describe unusual results in a testimonial as long as they included a disclaimer such as “results not typical” – the revised Guides no longer contain this safe harbor."

PowerPathGDI makes this mistake many times over at
their launch URL.

[Domainate]

Scam? No. Waste of time and money? Yes. The only difference between affiliating with a place like GoDaddy and GDI is that GDI has downlines and about 1% of the product offering and that minimal product offering costs a buttload more than anywhere else. So yea, I would stick with GoDaddy myself (or the other registrars with aff programs) but that's just me. I can say that being in the domain industry as a career, I can tell you that .ws is a joke of an extension.

[JLPapayorgis]

Originally Posted by Patrician

I experience this everyday - the scam mentality. Yes there are a lot of scams. However that is a serious accusation and people just throw it around mercilessly. Because someone doesn't get your email or you don't receive a response (usually because your email service blocked it) does NOT make a company a SCAM - for instance. Maybe they are guilty of poor customer service, but that's a long way from being a criminal enterprise.

Because they charge unreasonable fees, does NOT make them a SCAM. Just don't buy it. In this case it is true and can be misconstrued. FREE is only for a 7 day trial wherein you can get a refund.

However a scam is not a scam unless it does not deliver what it promises, doesn't honor guarantees or refunds, etc.

Not to mention that slamming one of our affiliate programs CAN HURT people who are trying to promote it. This is a SUPPORT FORUM not group therapy or scam.com.

I am the first one to exercise my right of free speech and many times to my own detriment. However "Freedom is Not License'.

I want you to understand that we can really be SUED for LIBEL unless a company or person HAS BEEN CONVICTED in a court of law of what you are saying about them.

I am no fan of GDI and personally don't think it fits with PIPS at all. From their cheesy ads with bathing suit beauties to their obnoxious audios, and on to ugly domain ".ws" extensions.

The worst part is the confusion it is causing on our application because they are also a host (we do not accept them as a host - only as an affiliate program). The domain names are only acceptable if they are redirected/pointed to the Host4Profit domain nameservers AND HOSTED by HOST4PROFIT.

Yes if you look at it as a domain registration that costs $120 per year it is ludicrous. If you look at it as a $10 per month membership fee for a business opportunity that includes one domain name, it is not a bad deal.

Either way it's a mind *uck and makes people loose faith hard to add numbers to your downlines when everyone gets to this speed bump

[JLPapayorgis]

Originally Posted by Patrician

Oh yeh, Jeff - right I left that out - big time - just because someone fails to succeed with a program doesn't make it a scam.

NO PROGRAM WORKS UNLESS WE DO.

I agree with you whole heartedly on that statement. But you must agree if your an ethical person that; (1) what it is your promoting for free is not
(2) you can talk yourself into believing your paying for the business as well but thats not the way GDI sells it to you, so how could you ethically explain it that way to your downline.
(3) you should be able to sell the service apart from the business and vice cersa. After all it is a good service especially for the internet newbie.

As far as selling it retail that dont matter its a service not a product. When you resell phone service you dont bump it up to retail to make a profit. To me similar to a comment you made it all depends on the person doing the business.

I tried GDI twice cause i had to get over the fact i couldnt sell just the service without the business so i got back in, but at the end my ethics got a hold of me and grounded me back to who I really am.

[webatomic]

Any site that features a phony customer service agent script that's designed to make you think you're interacting with a real person is a scam in my opinion. I think the program itself is a rip-off/scam what have you, but the fake customer service agent "trick" is a scam for sure. Just my opinion, YMMV as they say

[webatomic]

Originally Posted by Nametrader.com

I can say that being in the domain industry as a career, I can tell you that .ws is a joke of an extension.

Agreed. I moved on long ago from this and am making good money flipping domains amongst other things

[blackfolder1]

The best way to make money with GDI is to join one of the many "teams" such as powerpath 2.0, etc. They will help you build your downline.