[tjangu]

Hi pips members,

Is anyone in this forum using the pips co-op advertising program.If yes, has it worked well for you.How exactly does it work and how soon can you expect to see results.how effective is the program?

Thank you,

Tjangu

[tplahav]

Hi Tjangu,
You can read a review about it here
Plug-in Profit Site Blog: Should You Join the PIPS Co-op?

Tanny

[Alan Mater]

Assuming you read the blog post that Tanny pointed out, you should have a clear indication to how effective the co-op is. Simply put... it is a complete waste of money. The intentions are good, but the results are just not there.

Best Regards,

Alan

[Malcolm Tindle]

Hi,

The coop is a very emotive subject for PIPS members. I have been one of the biggest critics when it comes to ROI. What you have to weigh up is the value to you of the monthly articles which you can adapt to make them your own as well as the leads you get against the money you are shelling out for the service.

I have registered for the new PIPS capture page with the video and will be interested to see how this performs. My main criticism so far is that a lot of the latest articles are not very imaginative and some of them are just plain poor content so they require a lot more work to make unique so that you can submit them to directories. Also I will be interested to see if the leads I am now getting are better targeted than the old ones as I didn’t get one single PIPS sign up from any of the old coop leads.

I am not trying to be negative but the facts don’t lie and I am giving the coop a fair chance but there is only so long you can keep forking out $99 with no return. If the new coop is no better then I may as well just stick to my own efforts and use the $99 elsewhere.

just my thoughts,

Mal.

[Jeff Casmer]

Hi Folks,

This subject is a touchy subject for alot of people but my philosophy on a co-op is does it produce sales? And in this case PIPS sales. You can have great bells and whistles (tools to help your business such as article submitters, etc) but the expectation of a high majority of coop members is that info should be "icing" on the cake...not the cake itself...

Take care
Jeff Casmer

[tjangu]

Thank you, this information really helps.


cheers for now

Changu

[tjangu]

Jeff, i would like to thank you for my new SFI members.They came sooner than i expected. Thank you, Thank you.

Cheers,

Changu

[tjangu]

Originally Posted by tplahav

Hi Tjangu,
You can read a review about it here
Plug-in Profit Site Blog: Should You Join the PIPS Co-op?

Tanny

Hi Tanny,

Thank you very much,the review very helpful and things are clear now on what to expect from this program.

Cheers,

tjangu

[Patrician]

First of all, the co-op is more than the advertising but includes the article submission, 30 private label articles, toll free hotline, custom You Tube video and the new lead capture page system at www.FreePIPSite.com and more. Of course we do all the advertising we promise but it is just more than that and we have so many exciting things planned this fall including the call center where a sales pro will call your leads for you and a new promotion where we will be using the power of the media and some new concepts to drive more and better quality traffic to your PIPS sales page. Use all of these benefits month and month and you will set yourself up for success long term. I will show you what I mean in a few seconds.

Some feel that the co-op should be simply advertising only. The content based marketing benefits of the co-op are part of the program because content based marketing is the MOST EFFECTIVE marketing you can do online. Every expert or guru will confirm this. That is why Stone puts so much focus on content based marketing in his training. He rarely tells people to go out and buy paid banner or print ads. His focus is on content based on marketing and in fact he has said that if he could only do one thing it would be article marketing. We would therefore be doing you a disservice not to provide those resources. A well rounded marketing campaign includes all of these things and so we include all of these things as part of the co-op and you simply cannot get all of these things for less than the cost of the co-op anywhere. The fact is those who use all of the benefits they are paying for are practically guaranteed to reap the rewards in terms of online business success.

Every article submitted and every blog posted will continue to provide valuable linking back to the member’s web site and traffic for years to come. In this way, the return on the investment in the co-op can continue to increase long after someone quits the co-op.

Plug-In Profit Site Works

This is what works and what has always worked. There is no magic pill or system that can make you successful – only proven marketing strategies and following what Stone teaches in his training and his e-book Dotcomology.

The Plug-In Profit Site works and that fact that you are a member proves it. Want more proof? Did you see this month’s Success University newsletter? Stone had more personal referrals that anyone else in the company last month and I guarantee he did it through his Plug-In Profit Site.

There is simply not a better value out there on the web than the co-op. It is much more expensive to submit articles through article submission services and to buy private label articles from article clubs not to mention access to the other benefits and services that are included in the price of the co-op. Of course you can do it yourself but few have time or experience to do that. If this were not a co-op you would not be able to buy all of these things for only $99.99 per month or less than $59.00 monthly for annual members.

Think Of It This Way, Change Your Thinking And Break Through To Success

Think of it this way. Traffic is very expensive. For someone to compete in the Pay Per Click market on Google using Google Adwords they are going to pay anywhere from $0.85 to $1.60 per click in the US market. That is for one click. we have used the best PPC experts in the industry recommended by Perry Marshall and that was the best they could get for keywords related to home business, making money online and work at home in the US market on Adwords. That means the $99.99 per month if spent on PPC only would give the marketer about 100 or less clicks. Well, it has been said that it takes 500 quality visitors to make a sale. Do the math. Good quality traffic from paid advertising is expensive and it is the PPC market that is driving the cost of banner ads and more.

That is why the co-op is so valuable and why we also need to have reasonable expectations on what can be done with a budget of only $99.99 per month. That is precisely why article marketing and social network marketing is so VERY valuable. Every article on the web is like real estate and buying PPC or other paid advertising is like renting an apartment. The articles or real estate keep on giving and paid advertising loses all benefit when the ads stop. Spend a year submitting articles and posting to your blog and you will create content that will be sending you traffic and creating new links for years and years. How do these articles create new links?

Proof It Works!

Something most don’t realize is that the end all of article submission is not getting your article on a article directory. That is great but the purpose of article directories is so marketers can use them to find content for their web sites and blogs. When that happens your article spreads virally and that is powerful. In fact, I have a blog that where I use ONLY other people’s articles that I get at article directorys and each one links out to that writer’s article and the site is ranked 17 (on page 2) on Google for a search on phrase “success university” out of 34 MILLION sites. The site is http://www.newlifefreedom.com and it is moving up quickly. Please note that rankings are different for different regions but in Columbus, IN it is showing #17 currently and I get almost daily leads from this for SU. I am certain those writers who submitted articles that I am now using are also benefiting from the links back to their site from mine.

That is how the web is supposed to work and this should be proof to you that those who are telling you that private label articles and using other people’s articles doesn’t work are wrong. It is very exciting to see your efforts start to produce these results but you have to work at it and keep plugging away for a good year or so to really saturate the search engines and then you will be set for life if you keep it up.

I hope you had a fantastic summer and are looking forward to a big fall season. Have a great week and believe in yourself and your dreams. May God bless you and your family and business?

Sincerely,

Dustin Cannon

[Jeff Casmer]

Hi Dustin, (Assuming Pat that Dustin wrote this and you posted it)

May I make a simple suggestion?

I know this coop has been around at least a year now so how about invite a couple of your members that have some great results with either PIPS sales that they know directly came from the coop or some success stories with the tools that you offer a member benefit? Your explanation in the benefits of article submissions and social bookmarking are right on as I can attest to the success with both of those marketing ideas but having some of your members come here would not only be great to clear up misconceptions but a fantastic marketing opportunity?

Take care
Jeff Casmer

[Patrician]

Sent your suggestion to Dustin, Jeff.

Yes that is from Dustin and why his name is at the bottom. LOL


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[luckystar]

Hello everybody,
Realy, the coop was the very first thing i ventured into.

I cant imagine paying $229 for a month just to receive only
two sign up, even that was just a week before my money
expires or that was when he introduced www.freepipsite.com.

I even doubted that sign up. I believed it was done so as to
rekindle my spirit for a renewal of my membership.

[Nirusan]

I know everybody is working real hard in this business to make some money. 8 months ago I was still learning everything about marketing and was very excited to get on this pips coop thing.

I wasn´t very good at getting pips signups and I thought they are the professionals they ought to know better. Sorry to say but I´ve given up.
The 1 year subscription cost me $699 and after 8 months I do not have 1 single signup.

All the other goodies that were added to the coop reduce my pain a bit but the reason I joined was for signups - that´s what a coop is used for initially.
I don´t have much hope that for the remaining 4 months I´m going to get my share of signups.

I´ve learned my lesson and I´m not blaming anyone here, just telling how it is for me.:p

Nirusan

[dang]

After a nearly year of being a member of Co-op, I haven't received any pips signups from it. The more coop members= less traffic to your website.

Best Regards

[Patrician]

If you haven't personally tried the co-op then please do not respond to this thread. Thank you.

[Nial Robbins]

I was a member of the co-op for many months and did not receive any PIPS signups. I did receive 3 or 4 newsletter subscriptions but they soon opted out.

I also used the article submission service. Several months after quitting the co-op I did some research on the articles submitted for distribution. I was very disappointed in the number of time my articles showed up on Google.

I am not sure where these articles were submitted to but the exposure I expected was not to be found.

Nial

[Patrician]

Actually this is not true. Unlike usual co-ops, as members join, the money is spent directly on additional advertising campaigns, so that there is not 'saturation'.

Originally Posted by dang

The more coop members= less traffic to your website.

Best Regards