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Hi I am a newbie and have been going about a month. I have been following the PIPS 30 day tutorial to the letter but with no results so far. Does anyone have any experience with this? Does this system work. Am I barking up the wrong tree or do I just need to stick with the program?
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Hi! I started around the first part of June myself and thus far have not made any money-actually have spent quite a bit! However, I have learned SOOO much about internet marketing and now am doing things that I never had heard of before June. I went into this knowing that I probably would not make money for about 5 or 6 months. Just gotta be patient and persevere! Recently my traffic to my site has gone way up ( like from 1 a day to 75 a day) so I am confident I will start getting sales. I've had a total of about 1000 visitors to my site and 3 opt-ins. I have been in another affiiliate program since April and out of about 3000 visitors have made 5 sales. So I think you generally have to count on 500-1000 visitors just to get 1 sale. Just be patient- it will happen!

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i joined the PIPS in may this year,I did try to follow the 30 day course,especially spending a lot of time to advertise, but so far i still can't make a sale. anyone has better ideas to offer. thanks.
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Hi Steve...

The 30 Day tutorial is one of the best.

I see that you have made changes to your website. That's good.

I've been with PIPS since Jan. 2010, I'm making a little money now.

I changed my keywords in April this year, and I'm finally on Page one of Google. I'm starting to see more traffic now. If you haven't changed your keywords, that might help. You are not going to make any money till people can find your website. So work on your rankings.

Another thing you might want to do is write more article. Make at least 3-4 post on your blog each week. Write some other articles and submit them to article directories. I noticed you have only one post on your blog.

From what I've seen and heard, the summer months are slow, it should start picking up in the couple of months.

Just keep doing what you are doing, you will get there. Do not give up. Hopefully...the last quarter of the year will be better.

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If you get Suzanne Morrison's 23 page book on Search Engine Optimization for Plug-in Profit Site Owners it will help a lot. Change the wording on your site
around to avoid duplicate content and make sure you get a sitemap installed
and signup for Google WebMasrterTools to see when your site gets indexed and to see if you have any errors. Setting up Blogs on your Hostgator account that lead back to your site may help also.

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The best advice I can give you is to stick with it and take massive action.

Never quit because if you take action over and over again, things will work out for you.
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Hi Dou, Great work for ye success!
i'm also newbie in this business around 2 months. i'd sign up for all 6 streams of income, GDI, Empowerism, SFI, Traffic Swarm, MWP, Host Gastor, even signup for Co-op, Just acrticles, PIP SEO, PIP Backlnk, etc but still now visitor so far..
I think maybe somewhere goes wrong. May i know what you signup & any other estra things that you done to get the traffic?
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Hi! I started around the first part of June myself and thus far have not made any money-actually have spent quite a bit! However, I have learned SOOO much about internet marketing and now am doing things that I never had heard of before June. I went into this knowing that I probably would not make money for about 5 or 6 months. Just gotta be patient and persevere! Recently my traffic to my site has gone way up ( like from 1 a day to 75 a day) so I am confident I will start getting sales. I've had a total of about 1000 visitors to my site and 3 opt-ins. I have been in another affiiliate program since April and out of about 3000 visitors have made 5 sales. So I think you generally have to count on 500-1000 visitors just to get 1 sale. Just be patient- it will happen!
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I'm curious. How does the PIPS help you to make money when all of your websites are basically offering similar content and even the design of the site is similar as well?
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try not to purchase online materials that says its your way of making money online. you can learn how to make money online just by simply searching for articles that is related to your concerns.

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Is it a problem that there are millions of McDonalds? Starbucks? No it is a brand you trust. If you were in a strange town would you pick some place to eat you never heard of and don't know anything about or would you pick the one you recognize?

The internet is the same. There is much to be said about 'branding' - It creates an element of trust and familiarity that may be the determining factor on taking a risk.

Plus the fact that they say someone on average needs to see something 5-6 times before they take action. You will hope you are the 6th one they see.

Many people contact us saying, 'we have seen this site so many times over the years that we just had to check it out'.

As well, you have full access to your home page source code and can make your site unique (advisable to do so) by doing SEO, changing the look, adding other programs, etc.

Don't look for excuses to fail. Look for reasons that you will succeed.


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I'm curious. How does the PIPS help you to make money when all of your websites are basically offering similar content and even the design of the site is similar as well?

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For the past 5 years, I've seen and read I can't count how many times a thread was started about making money with PIPS, about is it worth it, tell me how much you are making, are you making money, what are you doing to make money, and does this program work.

That's just a few of the same questions that I have seen over and over throughout the past 5 years.

In Pat's last post, she touched on part of what this thread is about. And I must say she did it very accurately. So, I won't dwell on the subject of every site looks the same. Except to point out that tens of thousands of people buy the same make and model of car every year in the same color. Does that mean the car isn't going to be good transportation or worth the money paid for it?

The same is true for PIPS websites.

Stone has put together a really great “tutorial”, it's not an internet bible, it's not the holy grail, it's just a tutorial to help you get started in affiliate marketing. 30 Days to success is a “Title” of an eBook, it's not a guarantee.

When you sign up for PIPS, you get a decent website to promote the core programs “recommended” as a PIPS member. You DO NOT have to sign up as a paid member in most of them. Save your money until you understand what marketing is all about and how to get traffic to your sites.

You can start for free in most of these programs. Each program has it's own training track that provides methods for that specific product or service. You won't learn how to promote all of them in “30 Days To Success”.

How many have been inside SFI, Empowerism, or even MyWorldPlus and viewed the affiliate marketing tools and training? That training and the marketing tools are proven to work for them and their affiliates and are unique to these programs.

You must learn about every affiliate program that you promote. If you don't know about the program or service, how can you honestly expect others to sign up to something that when they ask you questions, you can't answer.

One of the most frustrating things to me is that after a few weeks or months, people expect to be making good money.

If you read Stone's sales page, it took him 2 years before he had a major breakthrough. He is giving you the same exact website he used and continues to use in his everyday business. Why is he doing this? For one, to make money every month. Isn't that what you want to do? Second, by his providing you exactly what he has found works will help OR at least SHOULD help in cutting down on the learning curve to help you make more money in a quicker manner.

Stone has provided you the “tools for success”. He's provided you a tutorial or guide to help you learn about the various aspects of affiliate marketing. He's made “recommendations” that you have the right to follow or to reject.

I could go on and on even more than I already have.

I could tell you to look at your meta tags to see why you aren't getting any traffic from the search engines. Having the same 1 long tail keyword for your title, description and keyword sections is NOT SEO.

I could tell you to locate and replace all or most the 150+ outbound links on your site as that is a definite hindrance to your SEO.

I could tell you to put your own articles on your homepage, change them weekly with new and informative content.

I could tell you a whole lot more, but...

This is YOUR business now, NOT anyone elses.

What you do with it is up to you.

You can give a man a fish and he will eat for a day or you can teach him how to fish and he'll be able to eat for the rest of his life.

Stone has provided you with the “fishing” equipment, now go cast your line into the deep dark waters of affiliate marketing.

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Thanks for all your helpful comments, I am just starting to realise both how good Pips is and how much work I need to do before I can make any money off it. Still enjoying the journey though...
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Hello Steve,

I've been with PIPS for about 9-10 months now and I am starting to bring in some money. The main thing you need to be doing is creating backlinks to your site. This will help your ranking. The goal is to get on page one of google. This will increase the visitors to your site.

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Hello,
All that have been said about pip is right.

My candid advice is that you should not spend a dime in the program.

learn to do all the free stuff in the 30 day program and you surely make some money.

it doesn't yield as fast as you may think because it is not a get rich quick program.

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Thanks I think I need to hear that
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I am a newbie as well. I bought 2 PIPS but until now I never a made a single dollar. All i got was an email from the staff where I bought my PIPS that I made some leads for potential buyers by posting in traffic exchange. It's really difficult because i don't the budget get upgrades in Traffic exchanges to be able send emails to free members. haha

Yup that's true. I made three purchases and I never made a dime out of it. I realized that you could find those resources by asking around and doing my own research. I am so naive being a newbie here. Haha
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yeh ha ha - maybe you didn't give it enough effort.

Not sure how you 'bought 2 PIPS' - since it is a free program that comes with training.

Maybe you should have read the 1 email to find out where all the free included resources are.


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Yeh everybody - put us out of business.

Don't spend a dime.

Just take all the free stuff.

:rolleyes:

Thanks for your sage advice.

What goes around comes around.

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All that have been said about pip is right.

My candid advice is that you should not spend a dime in the program.

learn to do all the free stuff in the 30 day program and you surely make some money.

it doesn't yield as fast as you may think because it is not a get rich quick program.

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I never meant to push anybody out of business after all i paid my dues in thousands of dollar when i joined PIP.

The general principle is start small and grow big or it can be start free, generate and invest.










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Yeh everybody - put us out of business.

Don't spend a dime.

Just take all the free stuff.

:rolleyes:

Thanks for your sage advice.

What goes around comes around.

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Thanks for clarifying that Luckystar. There is probably no need to 'invest thousands' either unless you have it which few people do.

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Here's my two or three cents...or whatever my opinion is worth.

Instead of focusing on trying to get our computer screens to spit out money at the push of a button...why don't we focus on building something of value that people want?

I think that's what Stone and PIPS is trying to teach...and that's the road I'm going down. It's almost like the, 'If you build it they will come' cliche. I'm working on building something of value and when the buying public thinks that I'm there...the money will come.

I hope that I'm making sense here...

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Please any article, how PIPS works?

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Please any article, how PIPS works?
Read the FREE TRAINING that comes with your FREE PIPS

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I have been in Pips since June and have 4 keyword phrases on pg 1 of google but have only made 1 sale and 6 opt in subscrebers. I have put 13 articles on my site and have done 12 articles in Enzine articles. I like how Steve changed his site to make it more unique and was wondering if someone could explain how I can do the same thing. I know a little about HTML code but not comfortable with it. Google webmaster says that all of my meta tags have a problem and are missing descriptions. I got laid off back in May and have invested all the backup money I had (whick was only about a $1000.00) into this. I have followed the 30 day program but am still struggling. I do not have the money to get the HTML lessons from Darrin so if anyone can help me so I can make my site more unique...I would be greatly appreciated. I love the program and I know it will work...I am just stuck right now and getting a little desperate.

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Hi jwb81859.

Free -

PIP Site Help: Basic PIP Site Editing

Free and maybe not free

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If you're looking for an HTML editor here is a site with several you can download for free.

http://www.thesitewizard.com/gettingstarted/nvu1.shtml

http://nvu.com/

http://www.kompozer.net/

There are also editors in your file manager on the host that you may be able to use.
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** The w3schools/videos are really excellent -

You do not need to be fluent in HTML programming - you just need to know basic principles - (like not insulting a set of brackets (tags) by putting something in the middle of a matching set).

Note I haven't checked some of the links in a while - hope they are all still working.


You need to know almost nothing to fix your Meta Tags - just open the index.html and you will see them right at the top - fix the words - just don't delete any brackets.

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HAVE You have done something to wreck your site display (like the brackets) - PIPS is built with tables and frames - you MAY have done something like put something in there that is outside one of them that caused it to be cockeyed.

I can give you a brand new site for free but it wouldn't include all the custom design you have - If Darrin at PIPSiteHelp.com did the work for you he will likely fix it for you free if you ask him at support(at)pipsitehelp.com

I would offer to fix it free, but while I know how to add and delete etc, once something has a problem like that I really don't have time to figure it out (I have only basic HTML knowledge).

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p.s. - the number of articles and blogs you have done is not very many (more than I have done since June but I have income)

Try to blog everyday even if it is just a paragraph or two. Try to write more articles - use your keywords for both.

Start using the landing pages in your Marketing back office and get in some free manual traffic exchanges - Traffic Swarm, etc.

Although even when I was unemployed I found clicking all day for pennies was weird logic.

But when you join them even free you usually get some free traffic credits - then whenever I had like $10 I would buy a little pack of credits. I had at least 10 TE accounts back in the day.

Submit your links for your blogs and/or articles to Google each time you post (can't hurt, might help).

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Thanks Pat,
I do not know why my site is cock-eyed. I personally have not done anything to it since I have Darrin make it into a mega site and even before that I did not do much because I have a very limited understanding of HTML. I looked at my site and do not see what you see. Looked fine to me...lol. Could you explain to me what might be wrong and I will see if Darrin can do something with it. Thanks a bunch for all your help. you are a real life saver.

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wow - well in FireFox it looks like what happens when something too wide is put in the left sidebar or insulted brackets/frame - the header graphic is way smaller than the site and the sidebar is all stretched.

however - in Chrome it does look fine.

in Internet Explorer it is also fine.

What browser are you using?

I wonder what is doing that in my Firefox?

I will clear my cache and see if anything changes. BRB

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OK - it is still messed up -

Looking at another site from FireFox it looks fine.

I will ask Darrin to take a look at this and will come back when he answers.

(SORRY I should not have made my statement sound like an accusation but should have posed a question - have EDITED the original post about your site display)


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Hey Patricia,

I am using Internet Explorer and it looked fine. I also sent Darrin a note because when I went into Attracta today I score 0 on the meta tag area. I says there is a problem with 170 something title tags and a lot of description tags so I asked him what I can do about it. By the way I live just outside of youngstown in East Palestine.

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Hi John -

Just heard from Darrin and he said the problem was some Attracta code - he removed it and it is looking fine now.

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This is the most interesting thread Ive read thus far on Warrior. Ive been with PIPS for two weeks. The first few days I was bombarded with ALL kinds of add ons, and upgrades, thinking that I was gonna fast track this business. I spent hundreds of dollars and so far havent seen the results.

Then I remembered on of the first things I read in Stone's material...this is a marathon. Ive been self employed for my entire adult life. Never worked for anyone else. I understand that building business takes time. I believe that because people see the internet work so fast and see so many opporutnities there that they naturally assume that building an internet business must be fast. It is not.

Like any other business, it takes time. If you research other internet business opportunities and money making systems, they all give the appearance of being able to build a substantial business in rather short order. But, if you actually dig into the guys who are making money on the web...Stone Evans, Jason Cardamone, etc...it takes these guys time. Not a month or two. Years...in most cases.

So for what its worth, my approach is to 1) stop spending money unless its for a concrete and recommended improvement to my business. 2) Read and learn as much as I can everday, and work on improving my mental outlook for this business. 3) Take it very slow, but do SOMETHING everyday that will move my business in a profitable direction.

I have absolutely zero doubt that if I, or anyone else, follows this course of action, they will be successful with internet business. Interesting stat I read the other day...over 90% of all people that start an internet business are out of the business and not actively working it within 90 days. Slow down and stick with it and you'll be fine.

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Jon...excellent post! I'm so glad that you posted this and I hope that everyone who starts to feel burnout reads this. I have no doubt that your attitude gives you an advantage in this marketplace that overwhelms so many.

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This is the most interesting thread Ive read thus far on Warrior. Ive been with PIPS for two weeks. The first few days I was bombarded with ALL kinds of add ons, and upgrades, thinking that I was gonna fast track this business. I spent hundreds of dollars and so far havent seen the results.

Then I remembered on of the first things I read in Stone's material...this is a marathon. Ive been self employed for my entire adult life. Never worked for anyone else. I understand that building business takes time. I believe that because people see the internet work so fast and see so many opporutnities there that they naturally assume that building an internet business must be fast. It is not.

Like any other business, it takes time. If you research other internet business opportunities and money making systems, they all give the appearance of being able to build a substantial business in rather short order. But, if you actually dig into the guys who are making money on the web...Stone Evans, Jason Cardamone, etc...it takes these guys time. Not a month or two. Years...in most cases.

So for what its worth, my approach is to 1) stop spending money unless its for a concrete and recommended improvement to my business. 2) Read and learn as much as I can everday, and work on improving my mental outlook for this business. 3) Take it very slow, but do SOMETHING everyday that will move my business in a profitable direction.

I have absolutely zero doubt that if I, or anyone else, follows this course of action, they will be successful with internet business. Interesting stat I read the other day...over 90% of all people that start an internet business are out of the business and not actively working it within 90 days. Slow down and stick with it and you'll be fine.

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Hey Patricia; Love all of your posts, lots of information, I have been with PIPS now for about 8 weeks joined everything I could afford, still waiting for something to happen!!
Any suggestions on the best Free places to advertise and to create Lists?
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Hi James -

The best 'free' stuff is what you should already be doing - that is blogging as often as humanly possible and submitting articles regularly to free article directories.

Submit the link for each one to Google after you post it.

There are many free manual traffic exchanges as well - they are somewhat effective (especially Traffic Swarm) if you have time to do some clicking -

Don't sit back and wait for something to happen - stay actively engaged - even if you have services that are being done for you - you cannot have too many back links -

You also can't learn too much about SEO - this is the most critical element of Internet Marketing (free). There are lots of free sites that you can learn alot from - You also have to stay 'up' on this as although the basics ('content is king') stay the same, things do change all the time.

I also have a thread here about 'Tips and Tricks' and you might find some free stuff in there too.

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Don't sit back and wait for something to happen - stay actively engaged - even if you have services that are being done for you - you cannot have too many back links -

I also have a thread here about 'Tips and Tricks' and you might find some free stuff in there too.

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This is probably the best advice...don't sit back and just wait. Continue building links, articles, etc. Establish yourself as someone who people know and trust!

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Hey fellow warriors and pipsters,
There is a new IM social media site up and running. For newbies this will be a great tool to pick the brains of marketers who are making money on the internet. It will be a place to swap info and have people you can talk with. The format is set up like facebook and is really a great place. I only have 7 post right now so I can not put in a link but it is called : imsocialzone.com. Come in and join. It is free. I hope to see all you fellow pipsters there so we can swap info.

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Patricia gave me some advice about submitting my artilces to article directory sites. I found a site that has 50 article diriectory sites along with there PR. Is there some easy way to submit them with out going to each one individually. If you are interested in this site it is...List Of Top 50 Article Directories By Traffic, PageRank

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There are lots of (even free) article directory submitters - just Google it John.

However, although I have used a few they are really cumbersome to set up - you need to set up an account with each directory - it can take all day.

Then when you submit the article some of them require you to login each time so you have to keep track of your login credentials (some of the submitters will store them though so it is about 50/50 automated).

Might as well stick with only the directories with minimum 3 and probably 4-6 PR and that will save alot of time.

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Hi there,

Stick with it. It does take time, but it does work. I was getting frustrated there in the beginning, but then I started seeing results that I am happy with. It just takes time. Stay motivated.


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Thanks for you private message jvsmith. I would have replyed to you but I do not have enough post to do that. That site looked really interesting but I can not afford that at this time. Until I start making money and am able to reinvest...I have to find free things. I have already spent the extra money I had but in the furture I might try that. Thanks a lot for the information.

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Hey Patricia
Thanks for the info. Just one more thing I want to ask. Should I do a rewrite on these articles so there is no duplication or would copy and paste be ok. I could see rewriting a article 3 time could be a little tough...lol...

ps: You mentioned about writing a blog...I have a blog site but it is new and not ranked. Should I do blogs here in the forum or some other site.

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John - use your blog - the reason it is not ranked is because you don't use it.

Yes by all means also use the Forum Blog as this site is absolutely magical in the way it gets picked up by Google almost instantly. (because of the traffic)

Rewriting is a good idea yes because if you are submitting duplicate articles there is a very good chance only the first one will get a back link (according to Matt Cutts of Google).

It is very simple - CHANGE THE TITLE - just add a sentence here and there - especially the top half of the document --- and/or remove one - change a word - Hot can be Very Warm, Cold can be Frigid or Cool, Money is Cash or Profit. etc.

For example if it is 'It is cold in Alaska' you can say 'The temperatures are frigid in Alaska' or even 'Alaska is cold'.

The search engines are robots and they 'crawl a site - when they encounter a different word than the original they continue crawling. If it is same old same old they stop.

However you want to keep in mind it is also about actual people who you want to interest (robots do not buy anything or join programs). So keep it interesting and make sure your changes still make sense.

I love SEO and I have to constantly remind myself that we are talking to people -

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You are the greatest Patricia...sorry for all the questions...you should start a mentoring program yourself...oops, I guess you have one here...lol

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Hi Everyone,

it's being a long stretch!

i see the table is still turning...

well, i have being a member of pips for over 18 months

did i follow the 30 days to success all the way....? No

it is being a long time coming. now i am prepare to get it!

thank you all for your encouragement!

for all those who are having second thoughts. control your budget and look to learn from the members area-30days to success...

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Hi to all the newbie's in PIP's this one of the best newbie programs on the internet the reason you are not making any income is you haven't learn how yet when you sign-up for PIP'S this program show you how to start to make money on the internet. You have to choose how to be difference with your Pips program..Will you Sale products and services or will you become a good sponsor and teach other how to make income online when you learn too....If you decide on Sponsor aspect of the program then it will take you longer to make income, If you sale products and service you could see some income sooner..
That saying that the money is in the list is true but only if it's a responsive list, same goes for your down line that when your income increases. When you start Pips try and deal with one program at time. Make one work then another ect......Good Luck!!!

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Got a problem and do not know why. For 4 months my website has been on the first page of google for keywords: "Legit home based business" and "legit home business". Now for the past month webmaster tools says that it is on the first page but when I put the key words in the search engine of google and look...it is not there. It is like that for a few days and then it shows up for a day where it should be, first page, 4th spot, and then gone for a few days.
Yahoo and Bing it is there everyday but google it is there one day and then gone. Has this happened to anyone else and if it has, how did you fix it.

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John - that is just how it is - 'same story different day' - keep in mind that there are a gazillion sites all competing for page one. There are days when they are submitting links and content and they move up - unless you are also doing that on any given day, that will push you down.

That is why it is so important to remain engaged - treat it like a job - every day.

That is also why having FRESH content is important. If the search engines crawl your site and don't see anything new, they will 'walk on' - you stay in the same place and others move ahead.

If they see FRESH they they continue crawling and you get re-indexed and stay up there in your position.

Try not to focus too much on ranking because even being number one on page one does not guarantee a sale (which is the POINT). People are the ones who will do that for you so you should focus on reaching out and building relationships - again with your content.

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Thanks Pat,
I understand what you are saying but my site did not move down...It is not showing on any page...I checked the first 10 pages and it was not there but in yahoo and bing it was right there...I could understand if it went to the 2nd or 3rd page...but to be gone totally...that sounds weird to me especially seeing as how it did not move on the other search engines...I just like knowing where it is at and what it is doing. Thanks for the info.

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