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Unread 19th Nov 2008, 04:39 AM   #1
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Do you all use this or is it not worth it?

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I don't think it's worth the high price tag. There used to be another thread about this, but I couldn't find it. Doing a search brought up nothing. Maybe someone else can find it. The consensus in that thread was the same.

I didn't get any sign-ups nor any leads. However, I managed to get four leads when they switched to the new lead capture page with the video, maybe four or five months ago. None of those leads signed up, though. I paid for a whole year, so I'm taking advantage of what they offer for the time being.

If you want to try it, don't spend the money for a whole year. There is some value to it as you get a customizable video, PLR articles and an article submission service. However, you can get all of that stuff for much less than what you pay for the co-op. The point of the co-op is to produce PIPS sign-ups, and for many members, me included, it just doesn't deliver.

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Hi Jacqui,
You can read Suzanne's review of the co-op here:
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Ahh, yes. I forgot Suzanne did a review. Thanks, Tanny.

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I had this same question in my mind for some time also. I almost signed up if not for my budget issue. After reading the thread, I know maybe I should save the budget.

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You would be wise to spend your money elsewhere. However, I'm not sure where elsewhere is. I haven't had any luck with paid advertising. All of my marketing methods are free, and they seem to pull much better.

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The co-op may be something you want to think about later on as you profit from your business. The co-op becomes more effective as you buy more shares. In other words, if you purchase 3 shares you get triple the exposure. However, $300 per month is a hefty price tag and who can afford that on a limited budget. Alan gave some good advice on focusing on the free methods of advertising.

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I see value in the coop. One of the major ways to build your business is through Article Marketing. I currently pay a monthly subscription to SYA to have my articles posted to various sites. I also pay to have articles written and I am paying for PLR articles so I have an easy base to rewrite from. The co-op gives you these things as part of the membership. They are nice bonuses to have. I wouldn't really save any money with the co-op, instead I would have one place to go to get what I am already paying for.

If article marketing is a part of your long term plan I would give the co-op some serious thought. It is not $99.99 a month. Right now there is a sale going on for $79.99 a month.

I'm not a big fan of co-ops because the value isn't there the way I see it but I am a fan of great bonuses. They make the price of the co-op well worth it and inexpensive.
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Has anyone here used Dustin's Success University Co-Op ?

If you have what type of results have you seen ?

Do many of the prospects enroll ?

It all reads good but i would like to hear of some results before i dive in.

Here is the link : Success University Advertising Co-op

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Stone and I both agree:

The co-op is constantly evolving and improving and an individual's experience with it one year ago, or one month ago, or one day ago will be different from what a new member will experience if they join today, or tomorrow or next year.

The co-op is here to stay and receives my highest recommendation. It is geared to make sales for PIPS members (and does), but even if it never made a sale for a PIPS member, the additional marketing and content development services it includes which are effective sales generators, exceed the value in price that a member must pay to join.

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First of all, the co-op is more than the advertising but includes the article submission, 30 private label articles, toll free hotline, custom You Tube video and the new lead capture page system at www.FreePIPSite.com and more. Of course we do all the advertising we promise but it is just more than that and we have so many exciting things planned this fall including the call center where a sales pro will call your leads for you and a new promotion where we will be using the power of the media and some new concepts to drive more and better quality traffic to your PIPS sales page. Use all of these benefits month and month and you will set yourself up for success long term. I will show you what I mean in a few seconds.

Some feel that the co-op should be simply advertising only. The content based marketing benefits of the co-op are part of the program because content based marketing is the MOST EFFECTIVE marketing you can do online. Every expert or guru will confirm this. That is why Stone puts so much focus on content based marketing in his training. He rarely tells people to go out and buy paid banner or print ads. His focus is on content based on marketing and in fact he has said that if he could only do one thing it would be article marketing. We would therefore be doing you a disservice not to provide those resources. A well rounded marketing campaign includes all of these things and so we include all of these things as part of the co-op and you simply cannot get all of these things for less than the cost of the co-op anywhere. The fact is those who use all of the benefits they are paying for are practically guaranteed to reap the rewards in terms of online business success.

Every article submitted and every blog posted will continue to provide valuable linking back to the member’s web site and traffic for years to come. In this way, the return on the investment in the co-op can continue to increase long after someone quits the co-op.

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This is what works and what has always worked. There is no magic pill or system that can make you successful – only proven marketing strategies and following what Stone teaches in his training and his e-book Dotcomology.

The Plug-In Profit Site works and that fact that you are a member proves it. Want more proof? Did you see this month’s Success University newsletter? Stone had more personal referrals that anyone else in the company last month and I guarantee he did it through his Plug-In Profit Site.

There is simply not a better value out there on the web than the co-op. It is much more expensive to submit articles through article submission services and to buy private label articles from article clubs not to mention access to the other benefits and services that are included in the price of the co-op. Of course you can do it yourself but few have time or experience to do that. If this were not a co-op you would not be able to buy all of these things for only $99.99 per month or less than $59.00 monthly for annual members.

Think Of It This Way, Change Your Thinking And Break Through To Success

Think of it this way. Traffic is very expensive. For someone to compete in the Pay Per Click market on Google using Google Adwords they are going to pay anywhere from $0.85 to $1.60 per click in the US market. That is for one click. we have used the best PPC experts in the industry recommended by Perry Marshall and that was the best they could get for keywords related to home business, making money online and work at home in the US market on Adwords. That means the $99.99 per month if spent on PPC only would give the marketer about 100 or less clicks. Well, it has been said that it takes 500 quality visitors to make a sale. Do the math. Good quality traffic from paid advertising is expensive and it is the PPC market that is driving the cost of banner ads and more.

That is why the co-op is so valuable and why we also need to have reasonable expectations on what can be done with a budget of only $99.99 per month. That is precisely why article marketing and social network marketing is so VERY valuable. Every article on the web is like real estate and buying PPC or other paid advertising is like renting an apartment. The articles or real estate keep on giving and paid advertising loses all benefit when the ads stop. Spend a year submitting articles and posting to your blog and you will create content that will be sending you traffic and creating new links for years and years. How do these articles create new links?

Proof It Works!

Something most don’t realize is that the end all of article submission is not getting your article on a article directory. That is great but the purpose of article directories is so marketers can use them to find content for their web sites and blogs. When that happens your article spreads virally and that is powerful. In fact, I have a blog that where I use ONLY other people’s articles that I get at article directorys and each one links out to that writer’s article and the site is ranked 17 (on page 2) on Google for a search on phrase “success university” out of 34 MILLION sites. The site is http://www.newlifefreedom.com and it is moving up quickly. Please note that rankings are different for different regions but in Columbus, IN it is showing #17 currently and I get almost daily leads from this for SU. I am certain those writers who submitted articles that I am now using are also benefiting from the links back to their site from mine.

That is how the web is supposed to work and this should be proof to you that those who are telling you that private label articles and using other people’s articles doesn’t work are wrong. It is very exciting to see your efforts start to produce these results but you have to work at it and keep plugging away for a good year or so to really saturate the search engines and then you will be set for life if you keep it up.

I hope you had a fantastic summer and are looking forward to a big fall season. Have a great week and believe in yourself and your dreams. May God bless you and your family and business.

Sincerely,

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Originally Posted by Elljay View Post

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Hello:

I was a member of the PIPS Co-op ($699) for a year and did not find value in it. I may have had one or two at the most PIPS sign-ups from the Co-op, but they only stayed with it a month or two despite my attempts to stay in touch with them.

As others have stated, I don't doubt there is value in the other features provided by the Co-op, but I personally was never able to use them well enough to get any value from them.

I joined the Co-op thinking I could put that part of my marketing on autopilot, but the Co-op ended up requiring more interaction than I was able to give it. As a PIPS member, I was too busy trying to learn too many things all at once, so the money I put into the Co-op for a year was wasted.

Maybe other members can make it work.

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Has anyone here used Dustin's Success University Co-Op ?

If you have what type of results have you seen ?

Do many of the prospects enroll ?

It all reads good but i would like to hear of some results before i dive in.

Here is the link : Success University Advertising Co-op

Thanks

Jason
Hi, Jason:

I am a paid annual member of the Success University Co-op ($699). I joined late in January. It looks like the co-op has brought me 32 leads so far - none of them have enrolled or responded to any of my messages.

It looks like I've received 7 leads from the Co-op from June until now.

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There is a lot of value with the co-op. However, I can write and market articles for free. Article marketing works, and I have a video to prove it. I don't need to pay for something I can do for free.

There is a lot of other value from the co-op. Is it worth $99? To some it is. To me, no. I make good use of the YouTube video. That's the main thing that got me to join. The other was the hope that I could gain new members. My year will be up in a month. The co-op has given me no new members, only 4 leads who never joined. I will not be renewing.

If you see value in the "overall package," then go for it. I know some people can't write their own articles and would rather have someone else submit them to directories. I personally feel the distribution wasn't all that great. If you see value in everything and could benefit from it, then sure why not? Everyone is different and has different needs.

To me, though, it wasn't worth my $699 for a YouTube video and 4 leads. Because to me, that is all I got out of it.

As GT stated, maybe some can get it to work for them. I wasn't one of them. For anyone thinking about joining, pay per month, don't go the whole year.

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Jacqui,

You need to change your sig file. Your affiliate link for PIPS is not allowed. I'm surprised Pat didn't catch this. She will make you remove it.

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Hi,

I pay my Co-op fee monthly and have to admit that I have run out of patience in recent months. I can certainly see value in the Co-op in terms of the new sales page, the you-tube video, the plr articles and the submission service and if that’s what you want then great.

Personally what I expect for my money is the cumulative result of the above plus the Co-op sales campaign and that is pips sign ups of which I have had none since day one. When the new sales campaign was introduced I received emails that I had 3 new leads, great I thought but none of them signed up and I have had no leads since and that was a few months ago.

I have tried to be positive with the Co-op and Dustin quite naturally is very defensive about it but the facts don’t lie and that is that to date it has not produced any sign ups for me so I presume other members are getting the same results because of the rotation system. I look forward to the new initiative regarding sales call backs (if they are inclusive) and hope that it kick starts a few pips business's including mine.

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Is anyone else wondering where the people are at that have their testimonials plastered on the sales page of the co-op? I'd be interested to hear from them.

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Hi Alan,

I know Melissa Burton pretty well...I will see if I can get her in here.....

I want to see the testimonials from people who have made PIPS sales. I dont question the validity or the worth of the "extras" if you have that money to spend.....

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Hi Alan,

I know Melissa Burton pretty well...I will see if I can get her in here.....

I want to see the testimonials from people who have made PIPS sales. I dont question the validity or the worth of the "extras" if you have that money to spend.....

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Cool, that'd be great, Jeff. I know there are a lot of PIPS members that probably don't come to this forum.

My idea is that the people that got in early are the ones that got the sales. That would make sense since they're weren't too many shares to go around, and those members got a lot more exposure.

I would imagine that's where the testimonials came from. In my opinion, a co-op like this would be better by having a cap on the amount of members. Unless you can afford to buy more shares at $99 a clip, you're pretty much out of luck. It's a shame.

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Hi all

Ok I have researched some more, and read some more reviews and have come to the decision that I will save my money at the moment. This may be something I will look into again when I am making some money (hopefully soon hehe) but as I am on a very tight budget which is running kinda low at present I think I will give it a miss for now.

Alan, I have also changed my sig, can you pelase tell em why this is not allowed? Is it because it is a blatant affiliate link rather than your own website?

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Ok I have researched some more, and read some more reviews and have come to the decision that I will save my money at the moment. This may be something I will look into again when I am making some money (hopefully soon hehe) but as I am on a very tight budget which is running kinda low at present I think I will give it a miss for now.

Alan, I have also changed my sig, can you pelase tell em why this is not allowed? Is it because it is a blatant affiliate link rather than your own website?

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Yes, were not allowed promoting PIPS in here. You are better off linking to your home page anyway for backlink benefits.

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Yes, it is because it is an affiliate link. You can advertise your home page and have as many affiliate links on it as you want. As long as you own and have created the page you can put it in your sig.

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Ok I have researched some more, and read some more reviews and have come to the decision that I will save my money at the moment. This may be something I will look into again when I am making some money (hopefully soon hehe) but as I am on a very tight budget which is running kinda low at present I think I will give it a miss for now.

Alan, I have also changed my sig, can you pelase tell em why this is not allowed? Is it because it is a blatant affiliate link rather than your own website?

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Ok doke, thanks for the heads up on that. I dont want to get banned before I have even started hehe

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Hi everyone,

As I mentioned in a thread yesterday I am restarting my 30 days training and last night I was reading through the PIPS co-op info. I was wondering has anybody else here joined the co-op and if so are you achieving results? I want to know whether this is a viable proposition for me in the New Year.

I just noticed that my question got moved to this thread (sorry did not see that somebody had also asked the same question ) After hearing everyone elses advice I think I will also save my money and concentrate on the free advertising methods also.

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