[jroh]

I noticed it seems like most of the talk on here focuses on SFI...

I just signed up to PIPS and realize it may take several months to start seeing results, so in the meantime I don't know if I want to spend the monthly fees on for all 3 programs at the same time. Plus, it is hard to do any one of them well if you are spread out over all 3.

If I had to pick just 1 to focus on and pay the money for until I start bringing in results, which one would you pick?

[tplahav]

Hi Jroh,
SFI will be my personal choice. But you can choose any of the others, you can do great with either one of them if you focus on it.
Each gives you a full return for your money. For me the best one was SFI, the reason is that it is free to join, while the others are paid memberships and I think it scare people away, but when they are in they know they need to pay.

SU is a great program but too expansive to my budget, and I know that when I start to see more profits I will rejoin it.

Tanny

[Trent Brownrigg]

I have been with SFI since the middle of 2003 and I have been with SU since the beginning of 2005. During that time, I have made more total from Success University but SFI has been more consistent in earnings.

I've never done very well with Empowerism. But I also have promoted it the least.

I know that's not a very straightforward answer top help you with your decision but hopefully it helps a little.

[truby]

Hello Jroh,
I agree with Tanny. First of all you are very wise to ask the question and seem to me you are thinking clearly. Start easy and work your way up is my suggestion.

Truby

[Stephen Meyer]

For me, SFI is saturated with free signups. You can spend a lot of time on free signups and never make a dime, I know, I've been doing it.

I like to see some form of commitment when a person signs up to a program and SU get's it from new members. SU has the best payout and training of all the programs giving you the ability to build a large income. Because they teach you how to build a business while providing an opportunity for a large income SU would be my choice.

[Jeff Casmer]

Hi,

I prefer SFI. If you want to be successful you must follow up with these affiliates. If you dont follow up with any affiliates then you get what you put into it. Too many people dont follow up thats part of the problem....

SU has a high price tag each month and if you dont get paid members soon (especially if your new) it can be costly to maintain but they do have some excellent resources.

I like Empowerism for the $20 checks....but my conversions overs the last several years with PIPShave ONLY come when people sign up for PIPS...


Take care
Jeff Casmer

[Malcolm Tindle]

Hi,

My choice is SFI as it is the first one that I joined even before PIPS and gives me a regular return which covers my monthly fee. It requires patience and regular follow ups with your team otherwise it won't work and can be a bit of a slow burner but is well established and will reward you in the long term.

I haven't promoted Empowerism much and was put off SU in the early days by the joining fee but it seems to have good value if you can afford it.


Mal.

[Alex Paul]

Hi Jroh,

First of all great that you made the commitment to start joining the internet revolution: making money online.

Secondly you made the right choice to go along with PIPS and Stone Evans Program (full with loads of wisdom).

Thirdly you are clever to ask the right questions...

Now to myself, I started SFI back in 2003. Along the way since then I saw many programs come and go and can say SFI is a program that will last (and especially now with SFI shortly opening their doors to a brand new store, will boost SFI tremendously).
The advantage you have on SFI is that you can start it for free and give loads of people free excess to internet marketing teaching this way. As Stephen above points out, I make the same experience as he, that loads of affiliates in my downline do not have the focus to create their SFI business and just sitting there (on their fences).
But as spoken above - the new store might changes this situation totally...

SU for my liking is a great asset to me (I'm an active member and my sponsor in PIPS just helped me to create a SU-blog), because so much knowledge is available through this membership, which you can use straight away.
I just used the whole November to listen to "Markus De Maria" - he is based in the UK, like I'm - and he is talking about "8 Steps to Creating Wealth" - what an inspiration. Additionally SU is a resource 24/7/365 you can access and learn from any topic you like in connection of building a business.
I recently heard what Sir John Templeton (find him under wikipedia) responded to the question: "What are you most grateful of in your live?". He answered, that he was most greatful of all the people who made it their task to record their wisdom (today even in audio and video format) for others to come. Meaning: we just need to dive into the available wisdom and use it, without having to go through all the trial and error in live. What a great statement I though when I heard that.

If I have to range the three programs you mentioned above, then I would start with SFI, try to get on with SU as quick as possible - as soon as finances allows it and lastly Empowerism (which has a superb commission plan).

Well that is my view I want to share here and hope you and everyone else who reads this post can relate to it as well.

I wish you great success building your PIPS business... And by the way, if you ever struggle to sponsor people into any business of yours than find out how to get affiliates running after you... Click and register under my sig.link: "Build your business even if you are on a tight budget - FREE videos" to receive information of one of the cleverest guy I met so far in internet marketing next to Stone Evans...

All the best to you and your family (I wish you that they will benefit soon from your online activities, too).

To Your Success,

Alex
(who wants to become an expert in internet marketing)

[Kym Robinson]

Hi - good question but even better reason!

I agree that focus is key to success!

SFI gets them in the door and I have many many affiliates - but it seems even with relentless follow up, email training and incentives I give to my SFIers only a small ratio make it work

SU on the other hand is $50 bucks a month straight off the bat - I am finding that people who signup to SU are far more serious!
I have bothe people who are building SU and people who are content to receive the quality education that abounds from within SU - either way they pay their 50 bucks!

SU has a far better payplan too
If you are really going to hit your promotion hard and are determined to make a go of it - you will make back your 50 easy in no time (that has been my experience anyway)

I am not a fan of empowerism (just personal choice)
but I have good teams in both SFI and SU - if I had to pick one it would be SU!

good luck with whatever choice you make
Kym

[leb123z]

If I had to make one choice it would be SFI as a paid membership, not a free membership. You make the most consistent money over time of all 3, and it's not too expensive like SU. Empowerism is also great, but not as consistent as SFI in bringing in the monthly residual.

However, my opinion is that any program you promote and want to make money by selling memberships from is a program that you, yourself, should be paying for.

Liane

[jroh]

Thanks all for your insight. As always, a lot of good information here!

[zita]

I didn't sign up with Success University but I did SFI. Success University has been taking money out of my bank account and I don't know who to contact about this. Does anyone know.

[KT52]

I could not sign up SU because monthly cost is too high. I try not to spend anymore money when not making any yet. Right now I'm trying to get more traffics then go back to join SU when making money.
Thanks
KT52

[jinmin]

I will focus on building SU. SFI is a good company but it's getting saturated.
With a proper lead generation system, you will see building SU is almost automated

[dang]

So Far I have had the most success with SFI and I focused on promoting this one.
I use it as a way around to generate full Pips signups.
People are more likely to join SFI because it's free. Then you can build relationships with those who are responsive and you can gently try to introduce them the benefits of PluginProfitSite as a great tool to promote theit SFI businesses effectively.

What I always mention to my Sfi affiliates is that having their own personal website is essential to run their SFI business to it's full potential and PIPS guarantee free website setup.
This argument has generated a few full pips signups out of my SFI affiliates.

So I've personally chosen SFI as my way to go


Best regards
Dan

[Jeff Casmer]

Hi Dan,

Way to go

Take care
Jeff

[Stephen Meyer]

I'm with kim as i stated above. SU gets people who are a little more serious about building an online business. Once they sign up and start to pay they show they have a commitment.

The education is very good also.

SU is one of the highest paying affiliate programs out there. Build it and you will make money.

Steve

Originally Posted by Kym Robinson

Hi - good question but even better reason!

I agree that focus is key to success!

SFI gets them in the door and I have many many affiliates - but it seems even with relentless follow up, email training and incentives I give to my SFIers only a small ratio make it work

SU on the other hand is $50 bucks a month straight off the bat - I am finding that people who signup to SU are far more serious!
I have bothe people who are building SU and people who are content to receive the quality education that abounds from within SU - either way they pay their 50 bucks!

SU has a far better payplan too
If you are really going to hit your promotion hard and are determined to make a go of it - you will make back your 50 easy in no time (that has been my experience anyway)

I am not a fan of empowerism (just personal choice)
but I have good teams in both SFI and SU - if I had to pick one it would be SU!

good luck with whatever choice you make
Kym

[Jeff Casmer]

Hello,

The only problem with that is getting them to sign up and pay....and for a newbie thats alot of money each month even though you can get a great education.

All the programs offer some nice education and with SU you can use the 14 day trial period to learn alot if you choose to take adantage of....

For new people starting out with PIPS the drop our rate is very high....

Take care
Jeff

[jinmin]

Commitment is very important in building any business. I see a lot of ppl did not serious about building their business and they joined the opportunity just because being lured into overnight success. agreed on good payplan of SU but anyway the attrition rate is quite high for SU from what I observed. Unless with a good SYSTEM, student tend to drop out after few months...

Setup your sales funnel and drive unstoppable traffic...it just can't failed

[pbwsfi]

I find all the above information quite helpful as well. I am concluding my first month with PIPS, and dove in head first at the beginning. Having already been involved with SFI for a couple months, I thought it would be good to expand the income potential with a website that was already loaded with other streams of income, along with the SFI program that I was getting familiar with. Opening yourself up to as much information as possible is key to success in affiliate marketing from what I've seen to this point. As for which I prefer, I like the potential of SFI (especially with the new e-commerce store they are going to debut soon), and will continue to evaluate the other programs and which will work best within my budget (both time and financial budget that is!).

[Davesbiz]

I signed up with all the six programs to start with. I wish I had only joined the free ones (plus Host4Profit of course.) This is because I have been busy promoting my Pips website and moving it up the search engines. I takes more time than I thought, especially as I am working full time in a job. My aim is to rejoin the paid programs once I am getting plenty of traffic.

Dave

[MortenLA]

Originally Posted by Kym Robinson

SU on the other hand is $50 bucks a month straight off the bat - I am finding that people who signup to SU are far more serious!
I have bothe people who are building SU and people who are content to receive the quality education that abounds from within SU - either way they pay their 50 bucks!

SU has a far better payplan too
If you are really going to hit your promotion hard and are determined to make a go of it - you will make back your 50 easy in no time (that has been my experience anyway)

Totally agree, SU is by far the best, in my opinion... Besides they have a very compelling product....

[Kym Robinson]

Well said Micheal - you are very busy indeed - it takes commitment and persistence and you have both - I know you will succeed!

Zita - put in a support ticket to SU via the SU back office - or contact your upline for help!
If you have skype - just call SU during their business hours - their customer support is excellent!

Kym

[gussie789]

I have had some success with SFI so I work with it