[Kanute]

I joined PIPS in April and still there is absolutely no money coming in. I'm a member with Success university and have upgraded to paid membership with SFI. Then I have to pay for the hosting, of course and have also upgraded with Host4profit to AE. So the money is going out, but nothing coming in. I can't afford it much longer, so I'd like some advice on how to do.
Success University charges nearly $50/month so I'm thinking I must cancel that membership anyway.

I'd like to hear about experiences others have made.

[lalythil]

Hi, I cannot testify yet as I've only joined recently..
but maybe you should try to put in some more effort in promotion?
and in SFI, u say you've become a paid member? I didn't know they had that option..
to become an EA can be free, or you can pay for it.. and if you have it, you can become a TL for free by simply having 5 EA's underneath you..
which u can do by motivating your recruits
try to make some contact with your upliners as well
they can provide you with valuable tips and tricks
they WANT you to have succes, because they share in your profits

anyways.. try to recruit a lot of ppl for sfi to join under you..
and try to sign up for the eyeearn program as you will share in the profits of maxmalls.com

well.. and i guess this goes for all those programs..

try to recruit as many ppl as possible..

grtz

Denis

[Kanute]

Originally Posted by lalythil

Hi, I cannot testify yet as I've only joined recently..
but maybe you should try to put in some more effort in promotion?
and in SFI, u say you've become a paid member? I didn't know they had that option..

Sorry, I put it wrong, it's not paid membership, but you have to buy something every month to keep your status as an AE.

Thanks for your advice!

[lalythil]

well..
as you are in the pips part of the forum: i presume you alreadye have a membership at SFI
anyways..
i'll check out that site of yours

and kanute.. you don't have to buy anything to keep that status..
you could also try to sell anything..

anyways.. how many ppl have you brought in under you?
how big has your team become?
if you have a lot of primary affiliates under you (check: reports>genealogy(full) )
you can try to encourage them by having any of your affiliates which shows any promise, to give them some more affiliates by reassigning some of yours..
if you have a lot of EA's already.. try to have them get 3 EA's underthem and you will provide 2 EA's for them so they become BTL..
anyways.. try to recruit as many ppl as you can and have them upgrade to EA status

goodluck and if there are any further questions on SFI.. let me know

[Suzanne Morrison]

Hi Kanute,

How much traffic are you getting to your site in terms of daily unique visitors? If this is quite low, then this is the first area to target for improvement.


If your traffic is reasonable then you may want to think about how targeted the traffic is. Traffic from the search engines is much more targeted than traffic from traffic exchanges, guaranteed visitors and so on.

The best free way to increase your traffic is by building up lots of backlinks from other sites and by writing and submitting articles.

Cheers,
Suzanne

[Jeff Schuman]

Suzanne is right on. Traffic is the first key. Are you getting 300-500 visitors a day. Blogging and social bookmarking can help you do that in a 1-2 months alone.

Try going EA with SFI by selling products. Then you are actually making money and not spending it.

The only 2 things you should pay for is hosting and upgrading Get Reponse. The rest of the programs only pay for out of your profits.

[Matt Belock]

Kanute,

Yes traffic is important. I used to get 15-30 visitors a day, up until 4 days ago. I have been getting anywhere from 280-490 a day all because of listening to what Suzanne and Jeff S. say. I have learned alot from those 2 and 4 other mentors about generating traffic and backlinks.

[vorales]

Hi Jeff,

You said the only 2 things to pay is hosting and upgrade GetResponse. What about SU? I also like Kanute, I have to pay for hosting and also for SU but not for SFI as I didn't upgrade to EA. GetSubsribers also need to pay but 1 time payment only.

[lalythil]

Originally Posted by vorales

Hi Jeff,

You said the only 2 things to pay is hosting and upgrade GetResponse. What about SU? I also like Kanute, I have to pay for hosting and also for SU but not for SFI as I didn't upgrade to EA. GetSubsribers also need to pay but 1 time payment only.

he meant to pay for empowerment and SU only out of the profits you've made using the other programs..
and to be an EA at SFI u don't have to pay..
you need to sell

[Asher]

Hi Kanute,

I'm also a premium member of Success University. Thing is, when you get into Success University, you need to contact your upline for assistance. Have you done that?
If you need any help, send me a PM.

Asher

[Jeff Casmer]

Hi,

What you have to analyze is what your spending, how your spending it.....and that is time and money.....

If your not getting targeted visitors to your website, making it unique from other PIPS sites, then your going to have a tough time....

Work on article marketing, blogging, making subtle changes to your website, keyword optimization, etc...

Good luck to you!
Jeff Casmer

[Kanute]

Thanks to all of you for tips! I understand that I have a few more things to do...

To Suzanne: in July my PIPS site had 96 daily avg. hits and 28 visits; until August 14th 58 hits and 22 visits. That isn't much, is it...?

[Matt Helphrey]

Hi Kanute,

My advice would be much of the same. Cut down on the spending until you are making some money. Focus on methods that get you traffic and just monitor your stats to make sure your efforts are working.

There are plenty of ways to get free traffic but you just have to make sure you work at it every day. Your hunger to make money online should will you to work hard and do the things you need to do.

Best,
Matt

[hjw1956]

Hi everyone, I joined yesterday and my site is up today. I find myself somewhat frustrated with the 30 days training...each day that I've done so far (5) has consistently recommended I spend money to get traffic to my sight and build a list. I did upgrade Get Response on a monthly basis, but would like to see results before I start throwing money to the wind. Maybe I'm not really understanding the whole process yet and need to finish the training.

[Asher]

Hi hjw1956,

Please understand one thing, internet marketing is NOT a get rich quick scheme. It's a real, legitimate online business that needs time to build and grow. If you're looking for ways to make lots of money without spending time on it, then I suggest you find some other opportunity or location. You've only joined for less than 2 days!

If you're looking for a way to improve your current money situation, PIPS is an excellent way to help you PROVIDED that you are willing to put in the time and effort to make it work for YOU.

PIPS is like a fully setup ice-cream truck that Stone Evans has kindly given to you for a mere sum. Now what you need to do is take the time and drive that truck around. You need to find the place (niche) where you sell it best. You gotta get people to come to you.

There's lots more. I'm using an analogy that's kinda weird, I think. But I hope you get the picture.

All the best to your journey!

Asher

[lalythil]

try to promote your site in some free ways a bit...
then see what places made the best traffic to your site
and then try to find out why.. ^_^

good luck

[hjw1956]

Thanks, appreciate the help. I plan on giving it my all and my time. I think it is quite awesome, all the work done for me, just need to finish the training and yes, generate a ton more traffic to the site.

[Dele]

hjw1956,

It is a good traffic building technique amongst other advantages, to include a signature at the bottom of your post.

You can look up in your control panel how and where to insert your signature and include this in your future posts.

[Malcolm Tindle]

Hi,

This is a difficult time for everyone but especially newbies because we are seeing a drop in sign ups and business is a bit slow what with the credit crunch (I don't like that phrase but everyone is using it) as well as the usual slow down in the summer and it is hitting everyone hard on both sides of the pond so don't be too hard on yourselves just now.

The more established and successful members can probably withstand this a bit better but something I would like to say is that you can not become and maintain EA status with SFI and not spend anything. If you sell products you still have to buy them first unless you have a pre-pay arrangement with your customers and if you can build up repeat sales from regular buyers then great, your $29.95 monthly EA fee will be covered or you can team build by recruiting personally sponsored affiliates who in turn hopefully decide to become EA and you get a percentage of their EA fee and any sales they make from products and so on which also covers your EA fee.

If you are on a tight budget I would suggest you concentrate on offline advertising, developing your blog, writing articles, free classifieds, social networking etc also a cheap way to get affiliates with SFI is to pay a one time fee of $20 and you get personally sponsored affiliates assigned to you every month with the EyeEarn program. Spend the summer months learning all you can and hopefully when there is an upturn you will be in a better position to spend a little of your budget on direct advertising.

good luck,

Mal.

[Asher]

Good advice from Malcolm there!

Asher

[Jeff Casmer]

Hi Malcome,

Good advice...the one thing about making sure your EA is pick a product that you would have to buy anyway such as a cleaning product for your home, or vitamins. I used to get the IAHBE membership but then switched to the vitamins as it cant hurt my health...LOL

This way you might be spending money on something you need around the hose anyway and you can become EA at the same time...

2 birds with 1 stone..

Take care
Jeff

[KT52]

Hi Jeff,

I'm also new here. You said the only 2 things to pay is hosting and upgrade GetResponse. I paid both and also Push Button, Empowerism. It's so much confused to me. My wife got laid off. My company is slowing down and I don't want to lose the house so I have to find another part time job. I don't have much time left when I get home to read 30 days training and I don't know I'm able to spend more money every month til next 5 or 6 months without getting anything in.


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[Dele]

Hi KT 52,

I will advise that you assume "the worst case scenario" of not making any money within the next six months and adjust your budget accordingly.

I thus will advise that you dispense with Push Button Leads whose conversion rate is quite low anyway.

I will also advise that you suspend subscription payment to Empowerism for the next 90 days as you have this grace period within which your website will not be deleted. You will also still be eligible substantially to the benefit of your marketing efforts by being entitled to commissions on your personally referred downline but not to the commissions accruing through the marketing efforts of your downline. You will also not be able to access training from Empowerism.

Go through the 30-days guide at least twice but do not buy any tools, resources,subscriptions etc. You can still make do with a lot of FREE tools available. If you do not know where these tools are, just ask on this forum regarding any task you want to accomplish and you will find many Pipsters willing to assist you by pointing out where you can get them.

By the time you are sorted out and you are in a position to make purchases, you will be in an informed position to do so. A lot of reading is necessary at this stage, though avoid "information overload" as they always say and begin to take action by using your FREE tools. "Rome was not built in a day" and in this business, those tasks you get done each day and you trivialise add up to "making a mighty ocean"

Do not be discouraged though, as you will eventually start making money and consistently too, but the thorough grounding is necessary first. And who knows, you may end up amongst the few who start making money online within their first six months.

Cheerio

[vorales]

Hi Dele,

Good advice, I learn from your advise as well.

[KT52]

Hi Dele,
Thank you for spending time to give me very valuable advice. I'm confused about SFI also, should I buy something from SFI to become EA in order to get commission from them?
There's too much reading that I can't even follow one lesson when I get home and make me confused which one I should update to Pro or. buy...because my wife is so nervous right now if I lose my job but we still want to try until we won't be able anymore then we will stop.
Thanks
KT52

[Stephen Meyer]

I would not upgrade anything right now. You can upgrade and become EA at any point you want and you won't loose any money. Just go through the 30-day training and learn all that you can. Apply all the free methods the 30 day training offers. Just don't upgrade/go pro, or buy anything until you have a full understanding of what to expect.

You can build your business by Blogging and social bookmarking your blog post, article writing and submitting them to the many free directories. Those things can build a business without any other help and they are free.

Originally Posted by KT52

Hi Dele,
Thank you for spending time to give me very valuable advice. I'm confused about SFI also, should I buy something from SFI to become EA in order to get commission from them?
There's too much reading that I can't even follow one lesson when I get home and make me confused which one I should update to Pro or. buy...because my wife is so nervous right now if I lose my job but we still want to try until we won't be able anymore then we will stop.
Thanks
KT52

[Dele]

Hi KT52,

First of all, I am guessing you are currently only in SFI as opposed to PIPS in general.

From the outset, I will advise that you think more long term than short term so that you are not disappointed in your expectations. It is unlikely you can make any significant money in the short run. You can make trickles which if you have to spend to make this, you may find out it more or less counter-balances.

Therefore the best advise as I said in the earlier post is to assume the "worst case scenario" of not making any money in the next 6 months and begin to build your business in the interim in the belief that in 6 months time you will begin to make money and consistently too.

Now more specifically, as to whether to go EA to earn commissions, ultimately it is desirable but the question is whether the timing should be now for you. How much are you likely to make in commissions for now compared to how much you will be spending buying products? I do not have a quantification of this and this is the research you have to do. If there is no significant gain, then you should defer this. You will discover that following a general growing of your business(including SFI) any such decisions yield considerably.

Depending on your budget, there are options to fasttrack your SFI business according to what your budget can accomodate.

The SFI Eye Earn Co-op for example costs $20 and though I have not yet used it, I gather it is doing quite well. See this link Plug-in Profit Site Blog: SFI's new Eye Earn Co-op

Also, Jeff Casmer's SFI/PIPS Co-op, though more expensive is an option to fasttrack your SFI business.

The question however is can you afford to fasttrack with these expenses right now? If you cannot afford to, do not push it. Simply follow the advise in Stephen's post above.

Also in trying to focus almost exclusively on SFI, take into consideration the contents of this link Plug-in Profit Site Blog: Which Plug-In Profit Site Programs Generate the most Income?


Hence why I asked whether you are only in SFI or PIPS in general.

[alphykool]

Hi, Kanute,
Your write up is quite understood but then, you really have to put more effort. You may don't have to give up at this point in time. You may as well ask yourself a question like this 'what about members that are making it with PIPS'. If they can, then believe that you CAN. And this maybe done by learning from an e-book compiled by PIPS members "PIPSPower Book Branded". Yes, you may want to know that I just joined PIPS at about one month but have to learn by following these guys advise. Though, the money hasn't started coming...but I know it will. So keep it up...and never be discouraged.

[vorales]

Hi Kanute,

Post your testimonial and you will get $10. I did that and I seen the real money from internet. It motivate me to work harder to get more money. I also plan to terminate my SU and after 6 months I will join back. You may consider the same.

[ramiro99]

Hi Kanute,

Take it from me, you can succeed in almost anything if you stick to it long enough. The KEY is Persistence and Consistency.

Regards

Ramiro Trevino

[Mark Kaye]

Originally Posted by Malcolm Tindle

If you are on a tight budget I would suggest you concentrate on offline advertising, developing your blog, writing articles, free classifieds, social networking etc.

This is something that I agree with and would recommend to anyone. I have had great success with free and offline advertising. If you have a local radio or TV station in town then pitch yourself as a "Work At Home Expert." Get them to have you on in return for posting your web address.

Also, you would be amazed how much traffic a handful of fliers at local grocery stores can actually generate for you. A Ton!

good luck!

[dylliedyl]

hey guys
i would like some help on the best ways to get my blog listed higher on search engines... will updating it regularly be the only factor? Or is there other high traffic methods i can use specifically for my blog?
thanks everyone
Dylan

[TGPlugin]

dylliedyl,

Along with updating your blog very frequently, you also need to submit every page (post) of your blog to a social bookmarker. There are many sites out there that will submit your pages (posts) simultaneously to dozens of social bookmarkers once you register with them. This creates multiple backlinks that the search engines should notice. Good Luck

Tim Goonan

[dylliedyl]

Thank you tim!
That helps alot, i will get to it right away
Dylan

[Stella Chiu]

I am a newbie too. In order to reserve the fund, I did cancel the SU because I have so many materials to go over. The information from SU is just wasteful to sit along the side. I may rejoin after 6 months or so.