[landon]

Hi Everyone I wanted to know what are back links and are they important for my business?. How many backlinks do you need to get noticed by the search engines? Thanks Dianne

[Suzanne Morrison]

Hi Landon,

A backlink is a link to your website from another website.

Once your website has been optimized for the search engines, building backlinks can help push your website up in the search engine rankings.

How many do you need? Well, it depends on what keyword phrase you are targeting.

As an example, say you are going for the phrase "how to make money online". Type this phrase into Google.com (without the quotes) and then take a note of the URL of your main competitiors (e.g. the top 2 sites on page one and perhaps the top 2 sites on page 2)

Next, go to this link popularity tool and enter your own website and the website of these three competitors.

This will show you how many backlinks your website has compared to your competitors and this will give you a rough idea of how many backlinks you need to get a page one or page two ranking in Google.

The quality of the backlinks is also very important and a link from a page with a high Google page rank will have more weighting than a link from a page with a lower page rank.

Cheers,
Suzanne

[Alan Mater]

Hi Dianne,

Suzanne gave you fantastic advice. Make good use of it.

I would say get as many backlinks as you possibly can. But, keep in mind what Suzanne said about the quality of backlinks. That is very important.

Good luck!

Alan

[scorpio9]

That's intereting, I've never used that tool, but the results I got seems very odd, i.e. I searched for the phrase free phone call , entered the top 4 URLS into the tool and got the following results;
icall.com (ranked 1, links=540)
evaphone.com (ranked 2, links=5322)
fonecalls4free.com (ranked 3, links=27)
skype.com (ranked 4, links=31,903,866)

does that mean that this link popularity is for all links for all key phrases used by each site and not just the popularity of the key phrase used for the search?

scorpo9

[Suzanne Morrison]

Hi Scorpio,

This tool just returns the total backlinks in both Yahoo & Google, regardless of the anchor text.

One important thing that it doesn't show of course is the quality of the links. For example, one high quality link could be worth more than 5 low quality ones.

The on page optimization is obviously playing a big part in the results shown above. The first site has better on page optimization for the keyword phrase "free phone call" than the others.

To get a good ranking you need a combination of good on-page optimization and good backlinks.

Cheers,
Suzanne

[Matt Helphrey]

Originally Posted by scorpio9

That's intereting, I've never used that tool, but the results I got seems very odd, i.e. I searched for the phrase free phone call , entered the top 4 URLS into the tool and got the following results;
icall.com (ranked 1, links=540)
evaphone.com (ranked 2, links=5322)
fonecalls4free.com (ranked 3, links=27)
skype.com (ranked 4, links=31,903,866)

does that mean that this link popularity is for all links for all key phrases used by each site and not just the popularity of the key phrase used for the search?

scorpo9

There are a lot of things that Google takes into account when ranking websites for various keywords. For example, even though fonecalls4free.com only has 27 total back links, their website may be more optimized for those specific keywords...ie free phone call.

Suzanne also mentioned how some backlinks carry more weight...find high PR blogs and leave comments on those blogs with a link back to your website. This will give you some leverage on your back link work.

Best,
Matt

[scorpio9]

so there you have it, it's not all about number of backlinks
scorpio9

[write-stuff]

If you're begging for links from someone else's site, here's a tip. Since you need "quality" backlinks, you can start out by checking the cache date in Google. In the search box enter: "cache:www.thedomainname". If the cache date is more than a month old, or worse yet, unchached, you might not want to waste the effort.

- Russ

[Alan Mater]

Originally Posted by write-stuff

If you're begging for links from someone else's site, here's a tip. Since you need "quality" backlinks, you can start out by checking the cache date in Google. In the search box enter: "cache:www.thedomainname". If the cache date is more than a month old, or worse yet, unchached, you might not want to waste the effort.

- Russ

Thanks for sharing that tip with us, Russ. That's something I actually have never thought of before. It certainly makes sense . Goes with my theory that the more a site is visited by Google, the better.

Alan

[scottanthony]

I have read all the replies to this question, and have gotten some good info. This was a question I had as well, and I appreciate the responses as well.

Getting backlinks is something I am currently working on.

Scott

[Jeff Casmer]

Hi,

I try to get 10 backlinks per day....

After a year that adds up

How about 5 years?

Take care
Jeff

[zoobie]

well this is a tricky question, as far as I know there is no one can tell how many links do you need to get your site notice and rank top 10 in search engines. it all depends a lot of factors, things like domain age, the quality of incoming links, how well you optimize for your web pages, (on page seo) and the diversity of IP address are those things you need to worry of.

In simple form do a search on Google, and look for things like "submit URL",
free one way link directories, article directories, are the things you need to take care of... in general don't submit the web directories' sister sites if they got some, most likely these are the links come from the same IP address.

and search engine doesn't count much as you are submitting a network with different geographical locations.

hopes that help

[googleplex]

There are a lot of good responses here but it all depends on the keyword a term like "This is a no traffic term" will only take a few however a term like "Marketing" or "Money" will take several hundred thousand.

[Hafsoh]

I think there is no rule to how many backlinks, what is more important its is relevancy and quality. Then building it naturally is a key to success.

[zhuuraan]

I, too, am working on backlinks. I'm going to enter the URL of that unmodified PIPS site I found, I think it was homebusiness.com but I'll look again. Then I'll check the others on the top page too. I seriously think when the spiders hit my page it will rank higher than that other PIPS site though.

[Jeff Casmer]

Hi,

Everyday you should set yourself up a goal of how many backlinks am I going to get today via blogging, social bookmarks, forum posting (not trolling as we have a couple of those people here..LOL), article writing and posting, directory submissions, etc.

Sometimes people struggle to get their website looking perfect when you dont even know if changes you have made will work because you dont have the traffic...

Get the traffic first via backlinks and search engine rankings and then you can see whats converting on your site or not...

Take care
Jeff Casmer

[Jeff Schuman]

Here is another point of view on this. Once you are noticed by the search engines how many backlinks does it take to maintain your position

When you look at this way you will realize you need thousands of backlinks to get noticed and to keep being noticed. There have been many good answers in this thread, but I like what Jeff Casmer said that he trys to get at least 10 backlinks a day. This is a good goal and really can pay off over the years.

[GT]

Hello:

I appreciate what the Jeff's are saying here about working on building backlinks continuously.

Two reasons:

First, all smart marketers are doing it, so you need to be able to keep up with them!

Second, for various reasons, a few of your backlinks may drop away with time, or decrease in relevance, so you want to keep ahead of the game by replacing them before you lose them.

GT

[MBeshr]

Originally Posted by Jeff Casmer

Hi,

Everyday you should set yourself up a goal of how many backlinks am I going to get today via blogging, social bookmarks, forum posting (not trolling as we have a couple of those people here..LOL), article writing and posting, directory submissions, etc.

Sometimes people struggle to get their website looking perfect when you dont even know if changes you have made will work because you dont have the traffic...

Get the traffic first via backlinks and search engine rankings and then you can see whats converting on your site or not...

Take care
Jeff Casmer

very good advise from Jeff realy everyone must set agoal and concentrate in that to get what you are looking forward to.

[mmr77]

thank you for good discussion about backlink.

[Jeff Casmer]

Hi,

Our pleasure....backlinks is the name of the game and good backlinks at that. As stated above there are multiple ways of doing this. Some people may say "Monday is my day to post in forums and Tuesday might be article writing, etc"

or

You can choose to do a little each day in several forms to get backlinks in several different ways....

Take care
Jeff Casmer

[KT52]

It's very good advice from Jeff. I've been concentrating on backlinks everyday, about 5 or more.

Kha

[tday01]

Hey Suzanne, thanks for the great information! As usual you are right on.

[intelinside]

In connection to backlinking, I have seen plenty of sites boasting to offer 'one-way quality' links ranging from 1000 to 10,000. What do you people think about such offers?

Personally, I don't like to trust on them and waste money but don't you think it is well worth giving a try for $20 a month for 1000 links for say 3-4 months?

[Alan Mater]

Originally Posted by intelinside

In connection to backlinking, I have seen plenty of sites boasting to offer 'one-way quality' links ranging from 1000 to 10,000. What do you people think about such offers?

Personally, I don't like to trust on them and waste money but don't you think it is well worth giving a try for $20 a month for 1000 links for say 3-4 months?

I wouldn't trust them. Perhaps you could share the link with us? I would do your research first and see what other people have to say about them before spending any of your money.

[robertstr]

Thanks for your discussion about Backlinks. I think if you want to have as many links as possible, it will be helpful. But the most important thing to remember is having quality and relevant backlinks and building it natural. Goodluk!

[Jeff Casmer]

Hi,

For anyone reading this ask yourself....

What did I do today to get backlinks?

Take care
Jeff Casmer

[Marian]

Originally Posted by Jeff Casmer

Hi,

I try to get 10 backlinks per day....

After a year that adds up

How about 5 years?

Take care
Jeff

Yeah, but don't forget to renew your domains and pay for hosting! :-)

Marian

[dcmilam]

Hi,

It still amazes me that I can come to this forum every few days and learn something new.

I THANK everyone here.

Dan

[profitgenie]

Getting backlinks is great if you want a site that will give you free backlinks try Free Backlinks you can get 250 PR0 to PR4 backlinks related to up to 4 keywords or keyword phrases I think on one website only. If you want to pay $19.95 a month you can 250 backlinks on 50 seperate webpages.

And yes they even have an affiliate program, kind of an easy sell huh. No the link is not my affiliate link but would love to include it but no joy here i'm afraid.

PG

[Alan Mater]

There's also the free traffic system which I wrote a review about and can be found here: A Better Alternative To Article Marketing? Give Free Traffic System A Try | Work From Home Resources Blog.

The concept behind the system is great, and it does actually work in getting backlinks because you're creating unique versions of your articles that are posted on other people's blogs. The other benefit is getting unique content posted on your blog if you add it to the system. They do now have a pro version which creates more bonus backlinks for you, but the free version works just great.

[bravobolt]

Yes, i would agree that the quality of the backlinks is more important than the quantity, but some people tens to go overboard with it. Meaning, they only worry about getting backlinks from pages with pagerank 3 or above. In my opinion, it's best to get any type of links you can as long as its from a "reputable website".

[Clint Butler]

Originally Posted by Alan Mater

There's also the free traffic system which I wrote a review about and can be found here: A Better Alternative To Article Marketing? Give Free Traffic System A Try | Work From Home Resources Blog.

The concept behind the system is great, and it does actually work in getting backlinks because you're creating unique versions of your articles that are posted on other people's blogs. The other benefit is getting unique content posted on your blog if you add it to the system. They do now have a pro version which creates more bonus backlinks for you, but the free version works just great.

I am an affiliate of that site as well, I love it, one article gives me tons of backlinks, AND content for your blog if you submit it to their system.

[ray2711]

Hi,

Are there any other good link popularity tool other than the one suggested at the beginning of this thread. That one now seems to be invalid.

Cheers,
Ray

[Underground SEO]

you only need 1 backlink to get notice by a search engine. However, to get ranked highly you need many of a good quality (i.e. with your keyword anchor text) - there is not one set number you need though. It depends upon how aggressively your compeitition is promoting etc

[Nhcarreon]

Originally Posted by fryerben

you only need 1 backlink to get notice by a search engine. However, to get ranked highly you need many of a good quality (i.e. with your keyword anchor text) - there is not one set number you need though. It depends upon how aggressively your compeitition is promoting etc

So if you have a new website and got 1 quality backlink, it is probably be indexed in a short time? What are other ways to get high PR other than backlinks?

[Alan Mater]

Originally Posted by Clint Butler

I am an affiliate of that site as well, I love it, one article gives me tons of backlinks, AND content for your blog if you submit it to their system.

Nice to see another FTS member that is happy with their system. You can't beat it for the price of... FREE. And, as you said, the content for your blog can be very helpful if you can't update it all the time yourself.

[Alan Mater]

Originally Posted by Nhcarreon

So if you have a new website and got 1 quality backlink, it is probably be indexed in a short time? What are other ways to get high PR other than backlinks?

It depends, but I wouldn't focus on just one. It also depends on where the backlink is. Not just any ole' backlink will do.

As far as I know PR is mainly the result of the quality and quantity of backlinks you have, and maybe a little to do with your content and update frequency. Focus on getting quality, high PR backlinks to your site.

[SEOArbiter]

There are many useful comments and posts to this question. When building your backlinks, or references from other sites, you'll want to consider: Link Quality—High quality links are essential for getting recognized and ranked in the search engines, Number of Links—Although the number of links can impact your ranking, it’s also imperative to realize that quality links are just as vital to getting you ranked high, and One Way Links—A website with a numerous amount of quality, oneway links will rank higher in the search engines than those without. Try to stick to one link-building method and do 50 - 100 links per month.

[johnben1444]

Below are some of the ways to build back links.

Article Marketing
Blogging
Directories
Social Bookmarking
Forums
Blog Commenting
Guest Blogging and many more

Cheers,

John

[tribros]

Originally Posted by Alan Mater

I wouldn't trust them. Perhaps you could share the link with us? I would do your research first and see what other people have to say about them before spending any of your money.

I think he's referring to "TelaLinks"...

[Stephen Meyer]

Originally Posted by SEOArbiter

There are many useful comments and posts to this question. When building your backlinks, or references from other sites, you'll want to consider: Link Quality—High quality links are essential for getting recognized and ranked in the search engines, Number of Links—Although the number of links can impact your ranking, it’s also imperative to realize that quality links are just as vital to getting you ranked high, and One Way Links—A website with a numerous amount of quality, oneway links will rank higher in the search engines than those without. Try to stick to one link-building method and do 50 - 100 links per month.

That is a great plan, 50-100 l;inks a month.

If you article market using a program such as SubmitYourArticle (Small Successful Business Ideas) you can get 50 backlinks with each article. 10-20 articles a month will give you a good jump. Then start blog commenting and doing other things for even more back links. If you are a paid member here the The "War Room" - Private Discussions has a free blog commentor that searches, do-follow, commentLuv, KeywordLuvand other criteria and finds blogs relevant to your site so you can comment on them. CommentLuv gives you a couple extra links and keywordLuv lets you use your keywords as your name for relevant linking. Finding blogs that use "Top Commentator" will give you one more link for each comment.

If you use FireFox browser and install SEO Quake you can see exactly how many backlinks you will need to rank for your chosen keywords. It will help you make smarter keyword choices so you can get on the first page. By the way, first page and the top 3 is possible in any chosen market including "work from home" if you use the right keywords.

[AskScottOBrien]

Great tips Stephen! I do a lot of manual backlinks through articles and blog comments... I'll have to check out some of your automated strategies.

[briguar]

The more numbers back link you can build, the greatest site you will be

[jeffreysloe]

Originally Posted by ray2711

Hi,

Are there any other good link popularity tool other than the one suggested at the beginning of this thread. That one now seems to be invalid.

Cheers,
Ray

Hi Ray,

This free tool seems to work well: Link Popularity Tool, and will give you all of the sites that are linking to your web page.

Jeff

[DonConrad]

Originally Posted by jeffreysloe

Hi Ray,

This free tool seems to work well: Link Popularity Tool, and will give you all of the sites that are linking to your web page.

Jeff

Thanks Jeff this is a very nice Tool

[Jaba63]

I didn't know that backlinking was so important. I have learnt something new today.

[vyperlook]

as many as you can.but focun on quality

[jbrooker]

I've just started using the backlinking methods shown in Day 11 and 12 of the 30 Days to success guide, if you use both it gets you 80 backlinks per month and its really simple to do, I primarly use this and article marketing to build my backlinks.

[sumudu]

pls tel me witch is the better place buy permanent back links ... i pay lot lof systems to lot of us$ but seems to their are 100% scams please help me :confused: