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A lot of times people try every thing out there that say's you will make money in less then a week or buy my program and watch the money start rolling in, they sell us the dream but the truth is if we all started focusing on our strengths and not our weaknesses we could all make some money now the only way to find out what your strengths are you need to look at all the things you are good at, and apply that to your business and all the things your not good at well don't worry about those they won't get you anywhere at the moment. k so i hope that this could really help some one and if you have anymore questions just send me a message.

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I'm good at computer repair and fixing Chinese scooters. How would I apply that to IM?

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clouddancerss, it's easy to get distracted with all the shiney new offers and promises of success. there are many different ways to achieve success and a zillion people trying to sell you products to help you do it. some work, some don't and some may work but may not be your thing. the you just have to pick your avenue and stick to it. the best way i have found is picking what i think will work for me, checking out the reviews on warrior forum before i buy "anything," then going for it if it still seems right for me. just find whats going to work for you and stick to it, follow through, don't give up, if it doesn't work at first try, tweak it 'til it does.

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Tek Scavenger, write 2 ebooks on each of your areas of expertise, then get a Sharecash account and give them away for free. Sharecash pays you every time they're downloaded.

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I have to put in my own two-cents here. I failed miserably for so many years and it is VERY easy to feel as if you are being scammed. We live in a "NOW" day and age. We want everything now. I do too. I wanted to make money from home like.... yesterday. As a matter of fact two of the programs Stone recommends and I am now involved with I was involved with many years ago. So what does that tell you? I was not taught the correct way to market and actually HELP others. I have followed Stones 30 day success plan and taken the things I could afford and put them to action. The others I cannot afford yet I am waiting til I can. But I have still had MANY sign ups in the individual programs. How exciting is that? FOLLOW the leader and you will learn from the best!

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Hello,

People need to get over the fact that they are not going to make any real money 2 weeks after starting their business. This is true with PIPS or any other endeavor.

It does take work people..LOL

Take care
Jeff Casmer

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One of the best ways to get traffic to your site is through the natural search engines but with so many competition out there in the work at home field, you are basically competing with 500 Million other website for top ranking. ( Go to Google and do a search for WORK AT HOME).

For Stone, I see that he is on page 1 of Google for Home Business.

The sad part is that your site may never be like his.

That is why you need to figure out how to legitimately get paid traffic to your site.

PPC, videos, articles, etc.

There is an old saying the goes like this.....

If you are running east looking for a sunset, you got a problem. It does not matter how enthusiastic you are.

You got to plan on getting traffic and paid is the best way to go. You just have to find the right places to do that.

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Hi Tal,

I respectively disagree on the thought that people cant get on page 1 for highly competitive keywords...

I was on page 1 for work at home with a site I sold couple years back...and my domain name didnt have my keyword in it.

I am currently on page 1 for "home business" as well. I have been actively working on my site for over 2 years. I had the benefit of the domain being much older than 2 years and with my keywords in it which certainly helps...

There is no majic formula except to work consistently on backlinks in variety of ways.

You can certainly get traffic from paid ways as well. There are some excellent sources out there that I have used as well....

But I would never tell someone they cant do it.....I can and have done it multiple times....

You hear the old saying on late night informercials where people have testimonials that say "If I can do it anyone can".

That part is true...:)

Take care
Jeff Casmer

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A lot of people fail because people tell them that this is the best way to go. If you know what you are doing, then it is possible but there is no guarantee that your site will stay on page one on Google forever.

I still think that when it comes to my work at home website, which brings me a full time income online, if I would stop promoting it on some of the places that I am currently advertise, my income would probably go down a whole lot. It did and I tried it.

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Thankyou to everyone who has written in this thread whether you are positive or negative.
I am on a steep learning curve as all these programs and computer tech nique is very hard to grasp.
Ok... I am natural english speaker
But I am still not a good learner, I am not organised.It is what the good Lord gave me.
Ok ... I just say this cos there are many here giving advice who basicly dont understand what it is like to be " not the brightest button "
Ok... Some will say I shouldnt be here.
The truth is I got to earn some cash some place.... so Im trying this.
I am working through the 30 days to success.
I am posting ads to Safelists
I am sending Emails.
As I read here I see I got to reseach "Backlinks"
That word is like a thorn on a Barbery Hedge.... It keeps getting stuck in my flesh
I dont even know what a Back link is.

Some one could please tell me the answer to this question.
If I deactivate the 4 paid programs on my PIPS site.
What can I replace them with to make my site buyable.

Thanks everyone , looking forward to your replies.

Be Blessed

Fencepost.

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Here's my two cents worth:

"SUCCESS IS NOT FINAL, FAILURE IS NOT FATAL: IT IS THE COURAGE TO CONTINUE THAT COUNTS."
- WINSTON CHURCHILL" and

Golfer Arnold Palmer has won hundreds of trophies but apparently he never flaunts these. On his office wall is a lone framed plaque which reads:

If you think you are beaten, you are.
If you think you dare not, you don't.
If you'd like to win but think you can't,
it's almost certain you won't.
Life's battles don't always go to
the stronger or faster man,
But sooner or later, the man who wins
is the man who thinks he can.

God bless.

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First let me try to explain back links.

When you post some content somewhere with the link back to your website in the signature or otherwise, this gives you a link back to your site from wherever you are - hence the name back link.

For example when someone posts here in the forum and they have their PIPS domain URL in their signature, there is now a back link created from here back to your site. These build with everything you do where you use your website address.

There is going to always be terminology you don't understand. That is why it is good that we all have Google.com to go and query practically anything in the world and get an answer instantly. (So just 'google it').

Just go and type whatever word you don't understand and you will get your answer. For more in-depth description, you can also go to Wikipedia.com which goes into more detail.

The most important skill you need to develop is not getting discouraged when you don't see results instantly. Marketing works by building and sustaining momentum over time -- consistent, aggressive action to promote your business.

The most powerful FREE tool you have is the blog function on your PIPS website.

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With all the headlines promising the moon, it isn't any surprise that one of the first things that newbies find out after spending a lot of money is that this is a business like any other, takes a plan and focus and a lot of work.

Once I finally realized that, I did more and made more in 1 month than I had in all the time before.

For me, it was with list building. That way, I am building an asset for my business.

I am now in more than one niche and they are all growing every day.

Once I had my "aha" moment and started treating this like all my other offline businesses, it totally changed.

You really do not have to spend a lot of money to get going in IM if you just quit buying all the training and tools that promise to do it all for you.

Most every question you have can be answered in this forum.

There is a lot of free information in the Make Money Online forum and in the War Room.

The War Room costs a small one time lifetime fee but is well worth it.

Either take the course and training that you have already purchased and work on that 10 or more hours a day with real focus or find something else and do the same thing.

Good luck.

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Thank you for your help everyone.

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I think you are concentrating on the wrong areas safelist do not produce results and email is no longer the marketing tool it used to be.

People are sick and tired of people selling from adverts on TV, Phone calls emails and even text messages, they are big turnoffs. what you need to do us to learn to market not to sell. what are people looking for and what solutions can your product or services provide.

You would be better to spend your time building your own quality backlinks, because quality is the key to success. do not write stupid comments on forums and blogs just to get a backlink from the signature, especially if the subject is not connected to your business.

Build your own blogs and simple one page websites providing quality information backlinking to your own site

Now I have spotted one reason that I think you are not yet making making money, Your website is a cloned site and it does not have any metatags or any way of providing updated content from RSS feeds etc. You will never rank high in results because its like an affiliate site.

I suggest you do some keyword research on speeding up your computer etc, buy a domain name that includes your best keyword. Build a simple blog of your own and write daily posts and pass the results to Clickbank.

Do not be satisfied with being part of the herd you need to set your sights on becoming a leader.

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Honestly, stop procrastinating. You think no one else has had 'bad luck'. I had a top ranking page one position two/three site on google. Trouble was, the person who originally set it up for me didn't transfer it into my name - despite my filling his email box requesting same - result I lost three years of darned hard work. Took a break and am now starting all over again. Sure I learned a lot! But hey, you have to have the right mindset - see the 'end result' - money coming into your bank and DO THE WORK to make it happen.

You're lucky - you say you have plenty of time that's more than a lot of people have right now - so use that time. I see you do not even have a forum signature, if I can figure out how to get one to work anyone can as I am not noted for my technical prowess.

The only 'get rich scheme' is one which is guaranteed to land you straight in jail. Hard work and persistence pays off.

Warriors are great - they have helped me with technical stuff - but you have to work yourself at what you can do best.

Never give up if it is truly your passion to make money online.

Maybe you're not meant to be an IM. If it's not your calling, then have a good think about what you want from life and how you want to go about achieving your goals/desires.

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As another Newbie, but a Retired Engineer - with plenty of FREE time, I am from my many years of training and experience, a fairly good Technical Writer. I have done exactly THAT for many years of my career. I aspire to work with PLR and have plenty of of it just going to waste on my hard drive.

I have read numerous articles and watched many training videos on this subject and DO believe that I fully understand the opportunities that this type of work presents. However, -- I am STILL sear ching for the ONE thing that NONE of thje educational offers online offer, -- - the actual "Nuts and Bolts" means of physically doing this successfully.

Specifically, -- I wish to severely edit books that I have purchased as PDF and DO -- have the correct rights to do so, -- add substantially to them and change a good deal of the content therin.

I have FAILED to find a PDF Editor that will allow me to bring a COMPLETE BOOK - say - anywhere from 19 pages to 95 pages and edit to ADD VALUE and CHANGE the entire product -- to virtually make it my OWN creation.

No one wants to completele retype a 95 page book -- nor even a 19 page one for that matter. There HAS to be a better way ?

Can ANYONE tell me where I can purchase a product that will allow me to absorb a complete PDF book into a file, to be edited , expanded and appropriately changed ?

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Use Nitro PDF Editor It Work's Well

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This is what I use to edit pdf files.

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Been using open office for ages and didn't know that neat trick to change .pdf file. You always learn on the WF. Thank you, want to change one of my own .pdf files, this will make life so much easier!

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Don't be..as you can read from the thread..many felt the same way before.

I can still remember when I first started out, the journey was tough. There are so many things to learn. But when I got my first earnings in Adsense - $0.80 to be exact, I was thrilled. Thereafter, I never looked back.

But just don't jump onto too many things though. Every ideas can make you money after some time of hardwork. So just focus on 1 or 2 and go for it.

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i feel the same as this, i have a great site, ive done all different kinds of marketing to try and make money from my site..but after months of paying people to basicly send me reports of thigs that arent actually happening, im fed up. when i first joined the forum & war room i thought i would find ways to help my onine buisness but i havent all ive done is get scammed. is this what the people do in this forum?? join with the hope of making a succesful buisness ...fail and then just con other people on the fourm with wso`s? i actually want to make a profitable buisness not just sell people false hope for theres...where do i go from here?? im flat broke thanks to people taking my money an telling me they will help my site. i seems its all just one big circle of people conning eachother. i am yet find anyone on this forum who will actually help me to make money online, when i do i will eat my words but for now it seems i have lost my faith in others and in the forum.

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It's been awhile since clouddancerss started this topic here. We'd love to hear how he/she's doing right now. :)

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Hang in there bro!

I looked through the thread and I didn't see your response. I hope you haven't completely thrown in the towel.

Learning to make money online is like learning any new skill.

Think about the time you learned how to drive....

In my case, I've always been a fan of stick shift (manual gear) cars. However, the learning curve for driving these cars can be steep if you have been used to automatics all your life.

Those who drive manual gear cars will all tell you that in the beginning it all seemed like a little too much....

Driving the car, looking in the rear view mirror, changing lanes while changing gears etc...

All these things seemed really tough at first but eventually they became mechanical! Yes....mechanical. The mechanisms were now unconscious reflexes that had these same people getting to their destinations without even remembering how they got there.

To make a long story short, if you prepare yourself mentally that this is going to be a relatively long road, then any achievement along the way will act as a bonus, a confidence booster and an incentive to press on.

Trust me, if you are on this forum, you are already part of the elite. You stand among giants, so it's normal to feel small, meaningless and weak in their midst, especially when you see the kind of results they seem to be getting!

What you don't realize is that the very fact that you are in here, and that you are at least taking action shows that you have the same success DNA as those who inspire you.

As the saying goes:

"If you want to soar with the eagles, don't fly with the turkeys"

You are among eagles...you will not only fly, you will soar! Just persevere, continue to invest in yourself and watch what happens.

To your success,

Richard

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I will be happy for the begining just to make 50$ :)) but and that is on some way hard to do it.
It has a lot of book and reports here where you can read that on first month how you can make and more than 100$ but it's seems that and nothing from that is possible. I try several of the books step by steps and nothing. If i find someone here to make me belive in that and if i earn for 1 month 50$ i will gave to him 30$.

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makedon.

If you keep up what you are doing consistently over time it will work. Maybe you read something and you give it 15 minutes of attention and then you expect 50 cents. It can take MONTHS of taking CONSISTENT ACTION before something will work for you.

Marketing has always been about building momentum over TIME. If you are lucky 1 person out of 100 who see an ad will respond. So you have to put out 100s and 100s of ads to get a good response.

How many ads do you see everyday on TV, newspaper, internet, magazines, postal mail box, email inbox, and you do not respond? That is normal and you have to look things from that perspective - reality -

Too many people put out half an effort and then shoot themselves in the foot by giving up or getting skeptical. It is all about mindset that will keep you motivated even when you don't see any results.

Be honest how much effort did you really put out??? How much time did you really spend being productive? What were the strategies and techniques did you use? Maybe you just need to change that and try something else and see if that will work. Maybe you need to do more than one technique CONSISTENTLY OVER TIME.

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best advice I can give you is this, 1) stop believing everything you read, this is vital, there's so much hype and BS out there, there's no 'system' or 'money producing software' that you can buy, the key to your success is 2 small letter words LEARN and WORK, I suggest you start going to places like youtube and google video and search for things like How To... Write An Artice That's Search Engine Optimized, How To... Write Reports, How To... Start A Blog, How To... Create A Website, How To... Write A Product Review, and watch and learn, the internet is a big place and there's a lot of information and resources that are free. Google Webmaster Central, HubSpot and Bing Toolbox are among some of the best places to learn the basics and once you become good at writing Articles,, Creating Blogs, Writing Product Reviews, Making Videos or what ever else you want to do, then if you only want to earn a bit of extra cash to start with, start selling your services on Fiverr or eBay, just to make a little bit of extra cash. Then when you're more confident in your abilities, you'll find it easier to expand and you'll become addicted to learning more, it's all well and good to buy the infoproducts, but if you let them just sit on your hard drive gathering dust, or if your expecting to buy some 'system' for $197 or whatever and then think they'll do all the work for you and you'll start earning big bucks, then you need to wake up and smell what your shuvelling, because nobody is going to do all the work for you, nobody, only you can make yourself become successful online. People can help and guide you, they can point you in the right direction, they can show you how to do something, in an ebook or in a video series, but unless you apply what you learn and stop buying the 'systems' and the 'easy cash' sort of products, you'll save yourself a fortune and you'll alos be on the right track towards your goal, by learning new skills. I haven't said all this to be arrogant or to put you off with your persuit to online success, but you've got to take a step back and stop falling for the hype. It's easy to be dragged in to things sometimes, I know, I've been there. It's taken me 8 years of trial and error, I've been scammed, I've bought in to the hype, I've worked and followed things and still had no success, but I've learnt from every mistake I've made. Another thing that happens is people get overwhelmed easily. It's important that you set yourself small goals and put them on paper and make sure you stick to them, like this: today, decide on a niche, use googles free keyword tool to find a 2-3 word that searched for often, buy domain name thats got atleast your main keyword in it, purchase hosting, install wordpress, tomorrow, join clickbank, jvzoo, cj, etc, then install wordpress and write first blog post, tomorrow, write 1 product review article of 250approx, submit to ezineartices, then write another blog post, next day, create some social network pages for your site, see how you've now set yourself little tasks to do, for the week ahead, day-by-day, this prevents you from being to overloaded, not knowing where to start and then deciding that it's too much hassle and doing nothing at all, because that's what happens if you don't dicipline yourself. Takeextra notice of the tip I gave you about HubSpot, it's a great place for free resources that can help you learn these new skills. Another thing you should really start doing is start giving away a free report or something and start building a list, this is something that you need to start doing from the start, so if you've got a domain name with nothing on there, chuck a squeezepage and a opt-in box on there, don't buy an autoresponder straight away, setup a free gmail or webmail account and setup a plugin that will allow you to collect their details, job done, you've got nothing to promote to them yet, so don't waste money on an autoresponder until you've got your own products, but start collecting the details straight away. Cheers. Stan Fields.

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I think there is no easy or quick result to this. You just have to try different things and keep at it. I'm over spending money on it though.

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After almost 4 months of learning and working I can tell you what I understood so far.

SEO takes time, I mean a lot...I am on the first page of Google for at least 5 phrases but it is still hard to get visitors. Not to say subscribers...I don't think that our sites (as originally are) have an appealing capture page.

The question is: SEO or list building? If you want make money quick, focus on list building. Safelists doesn't work, but i keep on using them...who knows?
Links building is also difficult and takes time, but I still do it. PPC is very expensive and you have to know how to do it.

I suggest to try to find cheap sources of traffic to get affiliates directly to the programs through your affiliate links or through a capture page...works better!
I make around 30 usd a month with SFI...that's all so far, but I started to focus on building my list.

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let's not forget the most important thing though. great salescopy that converts browsers in to buyers and a quality product or service. Cheers. Stan Fields.

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We all started that way - it's amazing how much you learn every day. I know you don't want to hear that just want to hear the cash register but it's a learning process. don't worry - it will click...

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Discouragement comes to the best of us at times when we least expect it. For one thing I'd encourage you to never never give up. Sounds easy to simply say this but it's so important that you don't give up. In one of my programs (SFI) I tell people to give it a least 12 months before even considering pulling the plug. This is so important because all the programs in PIPS are Network Marketing programs which means you're building a "residual income," and residual income takes time to grow.

Residual income from affiliate marketing typically starts small and grows ever larger over time, kind of like the snow ball effect. So patience really needs to be exercised here. The good news is that "if" you stick with it you're going to see extraordinary results in your business given time.

I believe Stone said you don't have spend money to make money if you're prepared to spend some time doing the work that is required to market your business using free services (not in these exact words). There isn't a legitimate business in the world today that doesn't require an investment of both time and finances to see significant growth and success. Add to this fact that many businesses run in the "red" for a season before even breaking even.

Those who stick at it eventually build their businesses to the point of making good profits. A key point to remember here is that you must commit yourself to thinking in business terms. Thinking in business terms means getting rid of the "employee mentality" which wants to get paid for each and every hour worked right away, or at least by payday (instant pay mentality).

Thinking in business terms requires a complete shift in focus from instant pay gratification to long term investment strategies. Online entrepreneurs (particularly network marketers) always think in terms of, "what work can I do today which will pay me for years to come even if I stop working?" This, in most cases, will require you to operate in the red for a season. Those who patiently ride this season through get see ever growing profits.

For further help in overcoming affiliate marketing discouragement use this link for some practical suggestions that I've personally used. They are by no means perfect, however, I've found them to be helpful on more than one occasion.

Paul

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I have read this thread and its very informative. Thanks for starting this thread. :)

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I have read through this thread looking for someone who is actually seeing success using the PIP system but mostly I see anecdotal tips and suggestions. I've only started using the system a week ago and am already seeing paid sign-ups. I wouldn't call that overwhelming success but I call it a great beginning.
Here's what I noticed in the post about our newbie feeling a bit discouraged. It seems you're making a logical case for automatic success. That because "Stone said" you don't need money to make money, if you do spend money, you should be "guaranteed" to make money, seems to be your logic. But that's obviously not so.
My suggestion is to go back to the "30 Days To success" section of your members' area and meticulously go through it's suggestions and like seeing a movie twice, you'll see things you missed the first time.

Hang in there. Try the approach of ready fire aim

If you are looking for leads Sniper Bot Pro is an excellent resource

Social Media is hot... Kate Buck Jr has a good program called Let's get social. it teaches the basics


All of the Above quotes were taken from Esther and Jerry Hicks... I hope they help