[paul64]

One of the most common "complaint/questions" I get from new affiliates goes something like this. "I joined xxxx company and they promised I'll make good money if I follow their plan, but I have not made anything and it's been 3 months already, where's the money?"

The answer to this, very important, question is to be found in the network marketing business model itself. If you're new to PIPS welcome and listen up because this might help you.

All the programs within PIPS are based on the "network marketing" business model which means you're looking right down the barrel of residual income. Every legitimate network marketing company will end up paying you well, however, the big money is always to be found in residual income.

Now residual income typically starts small and builds ever larger over time, and that is the key. Time is the key with residual income, so the real question is, "are you prepared give it time?"

I can tell you from personal experience that it really does take time to build residual income. For example, my first commission came in at a whopping 18 cents (my first month), actually I didn't receive that until I had accumulated a bit more in my account. 6 months later my commissions had increased to $266 for the month and they keep on increasing most months.

Now that is network marketing residual income at work. As time goes by my commissions are increasing more quickly, but back in the day when I only had 18 cents in my account I did wonder, "where's the money?"

Fortunately for me I had read a lot, and still do, and I learned from my research that I've got to hang in there and give it time. Boy am I glad I listened to that advice, because now it's paying off.

So if you're wondering where the money is, I would encourage you to hang in there and give your business time to produce for you. So long as you're diligent to work your business by implementing the PIPS marketing strategies, and you're seeking to grow as a leader you will see significant profit, IN TIME.

If this post has helped you, or if you have something constructive to add please do so, it would be great to hear your thoughts.

[Patrician]

Paul, great article. All true.

I would just like to add that joining a program doesn't do anything for you in itself. Joining a program gives you the legal right to sell the program/products, etc. It does not mean that money will come in by osmosis, magic, or pure luck because you paid your membership fees.

As silly as it may sound to see it - you are not buying money. You are buying an opportunity to earn commissions from selling something without having to create and build everything yourself from the ground up.

It is true sometimes in a 'matrix' format you will get spillover from your upline and sometimes therein lies the problem. 'My upline is working for me', I don't need to do anything for myself. The program is running, that is all I need. Soon you will see that unless you participate you will not earn anything with or without your upline's help.

If you get to the money it will be because you worked at it -just like any real business. No program works unless we do. I get so many people that really want to believe that they have been ripped off because they don't see the money - even in less than a month they start feeling discouraged and skeptical.

With this mindset it is not long before they just quit before they give it a chance. Nothing is going to happen even if you have paid thousands for a website with all the bells and whistles. Nobody will see it unless you advertise it aggressively over TIME. Being a super-duper-platinum afffiliate also does not mean you do not have to work.

... and don't blame the program. They likely earn every penny you pay them - businesses take money to run - and they are providing technical and software services, customer service, order processing, accounting and advertising resources that you can use. These things all cost them money to provide - the same money you don't have to spend developing your own program.

A person with the correct mindset will feel blessed, not entitled. They will take the ball and run with it. WE have to take action and be fully engaged in our business -- to focus on the target which is the money -- and of course the gratification that you have worked hard and helped others to realize their dream while we are achieving ours.

Where's the money? It's in your effort and your time -

"Success is still spelled W-O-R-K" -

...so "just DO it" - there is no other way (unless you can pay somebody else to do it for you).

[Holmstrom]

I agree both of you 1000%. Great posts. Thank you.

[Khondoker]

Hi paul64

Great post and thank you. I like to add a bit further. This is from one of my mentor and I liked it. He said, " never chase money in the internet marketing business, rather apply all the energy to position yourself in such height so that money flows on towards you. " How True!

[byronc]

what I dont understand is, if there is good money to be made in ersidual income, why are you guys not doing it, instead of selling "ways" to do it.

does not make sense to me. smells of lies and riding on a wave of people looking to make money to me. i dont mean to be rude, i just dont buy people selling the way to make money, why not just use those "ways" to make money ...?

[JForsberg]

Originally Posted by byronc

what I dont understand is, if there is good money to be made in ersidual income, why are you guys not doing it, instead of selling "ways" to do it.

does not make sense to me. smells of lies and riding on a wave of people looking to make money to me. i dont mean to be rude, i just dont buy people selling the way to make money, why not just use those "ways" to make money ...?

They make the residual income when they sell the product. It's all about selling a product. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have seen a product which "made money when sold". The product literately sold it self. So what you had to do, was not USE the product, but SELL the product. When I figured that, I found it being super retarded. But hell, it makes sense.

One thing I don't understand, is the PIPS. I've joined one actually. Under Stone Evans once. Since hes a top SFI leader, and I'm using same thing, I did have some trust. I canceled a few days later, none of it made sense to me. Actually I'm sure I never figured what to do. Still don't.

[talfighel]

I love this thread because it touches down to the core of this PIPS program.

Paul, thank you so much for the encouraging words to others who are new here and to the PIPS program.

Everyone here should print Paul's post and read it over and over again.

I really think that Stone should put a DAY training just for this with videos or audio about why they should stick with this business and never give up.

Awesome thread. Very helpful. Maybe Pat should put it as a STICKY and have it on the TOP of this PIPS forum so that every new person reads this.

[PattC]

Paul, very thought provoking post. Some people want to make money right out of the gate. I told a family member my mentor made 4 FIGURES EVERYDAY, and he said, "Why can't you do that?" This is only my fourth month. There is also a learning curve involved, and a lot of people are not willing to wait that long.

[Patrician]

Originally Posted by byronc

what I dont understand is, if there is good money to be made in ersidual income, why are you guys not doing it, instead of selling "ways" to do it.

does not make sense to me. smells of lies and riding on a wave of people looking to make money to me. i dont mean to be rude, i just dont buy people selling the way to make money, why not just use those "ways" to make money ...?

People ARE making money AND helping others to do the same. Don't you get paid for doing whatever it is you do? It sounds like you have a very narrow view and unless you can understand the concepts of marketing and business I suggest you just get a job.

If everybody just went out and made money and didn't share information or opportunities with others we would all be in the same boat - have a job and be more or less stuck with it.

If more people realized they don't have to be a creative genius to earn money from home and be their own boss, all the better for everybody concerned. The problem is they find a reason to fail without even trying - I don't know what to do - I don't know where to get started - I don't know how to create a business.

When you perform a service don't you expect to get paid for it? Is that lying? It is exactly the same thing here - why shouldn't people earn an income from SPENDING their time and SHARING information on opporunities with those looking for a way?

If you think that is lying then please go to your little job and when they pay you give the check back.

Are you assuming that people should just be born with the information on how to create a mechanism to earn money? Some people are entrepreneurs and creative - they have ideas and they know how to implement them - have the technical skills as well as the ideas.

However most of us have just had a 'job' - the structure, foundation and product of the business are already created and we just go there and do what they tell us to do.

People need to know what the opportunities are that they can BEGIN with - likely they will begin in much the same way - with the structure already in place and then they will see how it works as time goes on.

Some of them will be able to see the big picture and someday maybe start their own business. They have to learn and experience the business first and unless they SHARE the information with others they will likely go broke sitting there by themselves saying 'hey I am MAKING money, not showing others how'. Can you see where this is a dead end? Business is an exchange.

If you think it is more 'honest' to just sell a product in exchange for money, then by all means do that. Do you know how? Hopefully somebody who is doing it will share the information with you to help you get started. Hopefully you won't thank him by calling him a liar.

p.s. no offense is intended to you by my remarks - don't mean to be 'rude'.

[paul64]

Originally Posted by PattC

Paul, very thought provoking post. Some people want to make money right out of the gate. I told a family member my mentor made 4 FIGURES EVERYDAY, and he said, "Why can't you do that?" This is only my fourth month. There is also a learning curve involved, and a lot of people are not willing to wait that long.

True, a lot of people are not willing to wait very long. I've found that those who are going to give up, usually do so within 4 to 6 weeks. I think it boils down to a sifting process, in the end. What I mean by that is simply this:

Typically, if I sponsor 100 people into SFI, I find that around 10% " actually get it" and put in some effort to get their business going. The other 90%, unfortunately, don't do a lot. So I let the system of each PIPS affiliate program do the sifting, and then I work with the 10%. This approach has "taken time" but has been truly worth it. (I've been with SFI much longer than I've been with PIPS)

I have a friend who I've talked to on several occasions about making money online, and he too is watching how I'm doing. Some time ago, when I first spoke to him about making money online I had just received a commission from SFI for $49 for the month. He was not too impressed! However, the months have gone by and my commissions have increased significantly since that $49 commission. Now my friend is starting to take notice.

Good on you Pat for hanging in there for 4 months already! You will be rewarded more and more the longer you stick at it. Then the day will come when you can say to your family member, look what I'm earning now!

[paul64]

Originally Posted by amreen

Hi paul64

Great post and thank you. I like to add a bit further. This is from one of my mentor and I liked it. He said, " never chase money in the internet marketing business, rather apply all the energy to position yourself in such height so that money flows on towards you. " How True!

Thanks Amreen,

Yes, positioning yourself as a "leader" is probably THE most important thing you can do in your business.

[rover3500]

Thanx these posts helped,I can see why people want to give up after 4 - 6 weeks I think one gets annoyed with oneself that it's not gonna happen like you originally thought and obviously it's disappointing.Stone does say you need to stick at it,it doesn't happen straight away but for some reason it doesn't sink in properly.
There are a hell of a lot of similar 'making money ideas' on the web most of which are just after your money,this puts you off alot I find.PIPS has obviously put alot of effort into their 30 day program and Patricia Brucoli is very helpful and patient.From what I can see(I can't give advice as I haven't made anything yet)once you get into a 'flow' of doing certain things every day that you know work,that's when it's gonna become easy like you originally thought.
It's strange as well,because just writing this stuff I am now can change the way one thinks,just shows the mental blocks are definitely there that the 'experts' go on about when starting online.I've been following Ramit Sethi,and if I knew him,he would probably annoy hell out of me but he does give inspiration(and he's well known).I would suggest looking him up if you need a kick up the bum.(Just emails and vids,I haven't payed anything btw)
I've made a decision to carry on anyway and not give, up seems to be for the best.
Thanks for comments

[byronc]

i see I was lambased above and told to go back to my little job. It still does not tie up.

the seller of this method says he makes huge money, I dont believe him other wise he would not be selling the method...

It does not add up.

to me its like a big ponzi scheme - everyone is selling "ways" to make money and biggin each other up and taking a skim from the zillions of people that deperate for money, fyi - in my little job i make 100k a year... GBP

[paul64]

Originally Posted by byronc

i see I was lambased above and told to go back to my little job. It still does not tie up.

the seller of this method says he makes huge money, I dont believe him other wise he would not be selling the method...

It does not add up.

to me its like a big ponzi scheme - everyone is selling "ways" to make money and biggin each other up and taking a skim from the zillions of people that deperate for money, fyi - in my little job i make 100k a year... GBP

Hey byronc,

That's cool man, at the end of the day you gotta believe what you want to believe. As for me I'm finding in my business that some of my "down-line" are making more money than me. Now I know for a fact that in a ponzi scheme you just can't do that.

Anyway, I don't think anyone here in this forum means you any ill will, I don't anyway.

Maybe online marketing using the mlm business and compensation structure is not for you. There are numerous other ways to make substantial money online, I'm sure you'll find something that suits you.

Thanks for your contributions to this thread.

Paul

[minolta]

Thank you all for all of the positive energy you are bringing to those of us just starting out. I will continue to work hard and focus on the long term! Again, thank you for the positive words!

[abinboston]

great info! - Thanks for the posts.

[Cashflowanimal]

Paul,
Really good stuff. Thank you for setting it straight.

[Lorenzo Basil]

Originally Posted by byronc

what I dont understand is, if there is good money to be made in ersidual income, why are you guys not doing it, instead of selling "ways" to do it.

does not make sense to me. smells of lies and riding on a wave of people looking to make money to me. i dont mean to be rude, i just dont buy people selling the way to make money, why not just use those "ways" to make money ...?

Is easy to differentiate someone selling you a dream of someone selling you a system that works (just look at the sales page), Lot's of people in fact use the system they sell to make a living and such a living!

The problem is to chase every "opportunity" and not stick with the plan, If you do a consistent work every day without quitting and focus in build your business (and your list) and not someone else's you'll see results, Period.