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I would like to know how do you guys build link. Do you guys hire Seo company for your link building or searches forums for best link building deals.

SEo company charges between 300 to 1000 depending on your keyword.
Recently I have been doing link building my self and looking for best deals in forums for link building.

Share your opinions, ideas that can be good link building Strategy that can be in budget.

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Thanks for nice sharing. Anymore advice suggestion.
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There are numerous ways but I have found the following strategies some of the greatest ways of building links pointing to your site
  1. Setting up inbound links with all your own domains. Your Facebook pages, Twitter account, blog, etc... should all have links to your website
  2. Ask partners (website owners) with businesses related to your niche to add your link to their sites as you also link them to your site.
  3. Write articles and submit them to online directories
  4. Join forums like you did in the warrior forum
You have to know right from the beginning that building links the right way takes time. It's a process you have to work on slowly by slowly but consistently.

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I am going to say it again. The best way to get traffic to your site is with webfire. They have 25 tools to promote your site and are updating looks to me like weekly.

They have 4 tools in particular that find high ranked blogs and forums that you can link to. Not just a few. I just ran a search for key word and they gave me 100 new forums to link to. Link building is a time guzzling strategy but it works. With webfire you can search for key words, to write posts for your blogs to get more traffic. Lots of stuff that can and does help you and yes it costs $49.00 a month but well worth it if you are serious about your business.

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I would like to know how do you guys build link. Do you guys hire Seo company for your link building or searches forums for best link building deals...

...Share your opinions, ideas that can be good link building Strategy that can be in budget.

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Hello, Jacob:

Except when other website owners voluntarily post my links on their sites, I usually do my link building manually and I try to create a wide variety of types of backlinks because the search engines are watching for sites that do not have a natural-looking backlink profile.

If you use tools and automation to create backlinks, make sure they don't create too many, too quickly, and make sure to balance them out with plenty of other kinds of backlinks.

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Linkbuilding is still a confusing road for me.. too many? not enough? I hear so much conflicting info.

I just followed Stone's advice and use Paul's link service recommended in the training. He places 500 a month for me.

He also mentions that after placing them Google will "do the Google dance"
and penalize me with lower rankings, and then it climbs again.

I also took his advice on Dustin's SEO services. I'll let the pros handle things of wich I know little about.

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Hey, Steven:

When I was a newer PIPS member I paid for services similar to what you are doing. I think that is all part of the process because when we are new, we don't WHAT to do, never mind know HOW to do it! Oh, man. Have I been there! lol

Over time, as I learned more about the whole process, I began to take more of a hands-on approach (because I like to learn what it is and how to do it before I completely trust someone else to do it for me.)

However, many experienced marketers tell me that outsourcing these kinds of tasks to qualified service providers is the way to go. I see their point because I have only so much time in a day and I have other marketing duties I should be doing.

It all comes down to the individual: what they want to do, what they want to outsource, what they can afford, and so on.

The basic thing with link building is to use a wide variety of techniques, both so it looks more natural to the search engines, but also so you don't get hung when one method falls or fails you.

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Thanks GT,

I am fortunate to be able to afford these extra services, but yes, I do want to learn all these thing in time.

I am taking it in small chunks, trying not to get information overload and focusing on marketing primarily.

I enjoy the learning process so I think that's a good sign.

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If you dont have the time you should outsource the Link building part, and if you have the time you should learn it. Its a time consuming job,but worth the time. Searching the warrior forum itself will give you ideas on how to do all the link building work manually.

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There are various ways to do backlinks but now Google continuously improving daily so, how we judge that which method is effective for backlinking.

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My own linkbuilding strategy to my websites (not my client's websites) is...

...I never create backlinks because

...the search engines index my site's internal pages (content)

...usually resulting in external websites linking to my content either copying my content or distributing it through RSS feeds

...which creates all sorts of different backlinks to my internal pages

...and because I am the original publisher I am credited by the search engines as first position in the SERPs

Ultimately, the search engines assign page rank to all of the internal pages which attributes to the page rank for the home page...

..and get this

...I never try to rank my homepage! Why? The search engines will do that for me (all of us) and we have very little control.

Now, I do create and sell niche websites that has my commercial link in the footer. That is a backlink, but not a high ranking backlink because there are over 1,000 sites with the same backlink. Though those links are not as high value as they used to be... they do send targeted traffic (visitors) to my commercial sites... and that coverts to ... wait for it >>> PayPal $$$

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Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

My own linkbuilding strategy to my websites (not my client's websites) is...

...I never create backlinks because

...the search engines index my site's internal pages (content)

...usually resulting in external websites linking to my content either copying my content or distributing it through RSS feeds

...which creates all sorts of different backlinks to my internal pages

...and because I am the original publisher I am credited by the search engines as first position in the SERPs

Ultimately, the search engines assign page rank to all of the internal pages which attributes to the page rank for the home page...

..and get this

...I never try to rank my homepage! Why? The search engines will do that for me (all of us) and we have very little control.

Now, I do create and sell niche websites that has my commercial link in the footer. That is a backlink, but not a high ranking backlink because there are over 1,000 sites with the same backlink. Though those links are not as high value as they used to be... they do send targeted traffic (visitors) to my commercial sites... and that coverts to ... wait for it >>> PayPal $$$

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Thats is one way which i will be implementing in my new website, looks good now will have to see how it will work too.
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I usually write articles around 500 words in length and submit them to article directory websites and have a hyperlink in the article. This therefore generates a back-link for my website.
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I'd like to ask something related to this topic, link building. I've been active in online forums for quite some time now, and in my estimation, I already have hundreds of backlinks in 2 high PR forum sites (only 2 sites, Warrior Forum and Pinoy Money Talk Forum). Will this help me elevate my place in Google? Will there be any positive effective I'll get from these?

I have a hint that it doesn't matter if you have hundreds or thousands of links if these links are located only in one or two websites only. What needs to be done is, build links on several high PR websites. Am I right with this?

This I think I already know the answer, but I'd like to be sure of this that's why I am asking here. I am still a "newbie" when it comes to SEO. Now, which is better? To have few hundred links in 10 high PR sites (like PR5 to 8)? Or, have thousand links from 2 low PR (PR1 to PR2) forum sites?

Are forum sites really helpful in getting link juice and rising up in PR?

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I hope Jeffery will respond Gomer.

I think it is relevant that you can literally watch some posts/threads here in WF get on Google within hours. I think that says a lot.

I don't know how/if Panda or any of these recent developments put a damper on that but judging from the costs I have seen for high PR links they must carry a lot more value.

I wouldn't even bother with PR 1 or 2 - even back several years ago PR 3 was considered good as a minimum and ok/healthy.

As I said I hope an expert in SEO will tell you more but this is just my opinion - I know a few SEO guys that I used to talk to and I learned a lot but again every quarter when Google 'dances' they mess things up - and Panda was a big one.

The thing that doesn't change is 'content is king' - the rest goes back and forth, up and down, yes and no, sometimes and never...

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Hi Gom,

To avoid any conflict with your training I will just post some facts.

Originally Posted by GomerMagtibay View Post

I'd like to ask something related to this topic, link building. I've been active in online forums for quite some time now, and in my estimation, I already have hundreds of backlinks in 2 high PR forum sites (only 2 sites, Warrior Forum and Pinoy Money Talk Forum). Will this help me elevate my place in Google? Will there be any positive effective I'll get from these?
Three online tools that I use to check a site's backlinks report that the domain in your signature has no backlinks.

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It appears that you were hit hard by Panda.

I checked Pinoy Money Talk Forum. The short story is: backlinks from the forum to the domain in your signature have little to no weight with Google.

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I have a hint that it doesn't matter if you have hundreds or thousands of links if these links are located only in one or two websites only. What needs to be done is, build links on several high PR websites. Am I right with this?
You are speaking in "general terms" and the answer is a qualified.. yes. However, the answer in "specific terms" is.. no. You may need a short course in the "specifics" of backlink building.

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This I think I already know the answer, but I'd like to be sure of this that's why I am asking here. I am still a "newbie" when it comes to SEO. Now, which is better? To have few hundred links in 10 high PR sites (like PR5 to 8)? Or, have thousand links from 2 low PR (PR1 to PR2) forum sites?
As long as the backlinks from the external site are "relevant" it is all good. The external site's meta needs to match or be very similar your site's meta. This is nothing new, but enforced by Panda.

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Are forum sites really helpful in getting link juice and rising up in PR?
Yes, as long as the forums are relevant to your sites. That does not mean Pinoy Money Talk Forum is relevant to the site in your signature. Also, Google Panda also hti Pinoy Money Talk Forum hard.

The WarriorForum is relevant to the domain in your signature. However, you need specific training on how to use relevant forums to generate backlinks.

Conclusion.
I don't know how long the site in your signature has been online, but it is Google Page Rank 0. Is this the site you refer to as having hundreds of backlinks?

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Jeffery - this domain is only a week or so old. You may or may not remember a conversation we had here about Gomer changing his domain name and I mentioned he would lose all the momentum built on the original domain.

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Jeffery - this domain is only a week or so old. You may or may not remember a conversation we had here about Gomer changing his domain name and I mentioned he would lose all the momentum built on the original domain.
Well shush my mouth, that just about explains everything.

Thanks for pointing that out. I do remember the conversation, but did not think about it, so did not know this is the new domain in the signature. Actually if this question had bee asked in the other thread - it would have made better sense. At least to me.

You are absolutely correct that the new domain will lose momentum. After all, the SEs look at it as new domain on the internet, unless Gom added the old domain to the new host and created the proper redirects for the old domain to the new domain?

There is a specific method that hosts can invoke to change the old domain name to a new domain name that literally informs the search engines, so as to not lose any momentum in the SERPs, but that is none of my business, so I did not address it in that thread. That must be done by the old host before a change of hosts. Doubt that the old host could have handled it anyway.

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Hi Pat and Jeffery, thanks for all the explanations. I should have asked a more simple question, like "what really counts with Google, you have one hundred backlinks from a single PR5 site, or you have one backlink each site in a hundred PR5 sites?"

Are they equal?

There's so much to learn about these link building.. But since "this is a must" for me to succeed online, I'll take the challenge.

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In a prefect world the answer is they are not all equal. This past year alone Google's changes to traditional SEO has shocked the internet. The proof is in all the sites that were attributed with high page rank for years - suddenly Google dropped the PR to ZERO and de-indexed hundreds of thousands of pages.

Well Gom, the answer in my prior post is still the same.

The main point you need to understand that a backlink from the external website must be relevant to the page on your website. That is all that really matters (factored in) to Google and the other search engines. Google determines a site's worth (PR) on many factors. One of those factors is the site worth of the external site linking to your site. We have no control of that aspect, but as long as you are building relevant backlinks as previously explained in my prior post to you - you will be good to go.

In the end relevant backlinks from high PRs site are more valuable in terms of Google factors (algo) than a site with a lower PR. However, PR0 sites gain PR with relevant backlinks as well. So though a site may be PR0 today - it could rise later in the future.

See how SEO works? You cannot expect to gain high PR overnight or overmonth or overyear regardless of your expectations and even your training. Google can tuen it all upside down with one click...

There is enough basic training in my two posts to put you on the right track, so remember to build relevant backlinks and if possible relevant quality content.

As Pat has said.. Content is King.
As I have said: Relevant Backlinks.
Combine the two and you have a very solid foundation for SEO.

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I would just take your time and linkbuild manually.. this will take awhile, but its free and very effective.
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To get started with my link building, I signed up for Paul's 500 links per month service as recommended in the training program.

I'm also looking forward to pumping out informative and timely articles on internet marketing to take advantage of the impact of content marketing and the impact it has on SEO.

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While link building programs are seen as good tools for building inbound links (links pointing to your site), you have to be mindful of having quality links.

You cannot benefit from having any inbound links. Yes, the number matters especially if the links you have are from powerful sites that have already build their popularity. Links should come from sites related to your niche or the content you have on yours. But getting any links for the sake of having numbers is a wastage of time. One quality link can be 10 times more beneficial than 10 low-quality links.

It's more advisable to build links naturally and gradually to avoid even being punished by Google for having artificial links with an intention of getting a high rank in search engines.

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I am going to say it again. The best way to get traffic to your site is with webfire. They have 25 tools to promote your site and are updating looks to me like weekly.

They have 4 tools in particular that find high ranked blogs and forums that you can link to. Not just a few. I just ran a search for key word and they gave me 100 new forums to link to. Link building is a time guzzling strategy but it works. With webfire you can search for key words, to write posts for your blogs to get more traffic. Lots of stuff that can and does help you and yes it costs $49.00 a month but well worth it if you are serious about your business.

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Of course Google will always change. One thing you need to know is that Google mainly earns a living from people who search the internet looking for information or something, not from websites or webmasters. They are in business and will always come up with new changes that are favourable to them.

It's therefore advisable to be vigilant. When they come up with new guidelines or new changes, you also look forward to change. What else can you do? They are the big fish in the ocean.

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I have been doing my backlinks manually. But...now I'm not doing backlinking at all.

I think the last Penguin update got me good. My site had been ranked #1 on Google for many months. Now...it's no where to be seen,

So now...like Jeffery...I'm not building backlinks at all.

One thing I am trying right now is linking to other blogs within my blog posts. It seems to be working...but too early to see how effective it will be. I have gotten a few links with these "track backs."

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Hello, Jacob:

Except when other website owners voluntarily post my links on their sites, I usually do my link building manually and I try to create a wide variety of types of backlinks because the search engines are watching for sites that do not have a natural-looking backlink profile.

If you use tools and automation to create backlinks, make sure they don't create too many, too quickly, and make sure to balance them out with plenty of other kinds of backlinks.

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Your answer is spot on. Be very careful using backlinks and software offered by individuals, say on Fiverr, and you'll see what I mean. What some people are offering to do for you for $5 is very scary and can seriously upset Google's PhD's! Problem is...you see the same services provided in the Forum too. Buyer beware!
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These are my usual strategies for link building: Article submission, social bookmarking, blog and comment posting, social media and press release submission.

While the changes in Google's algorithm reduced my confidence in linking through article submission, there are some high ranking article directories such as ezinearticles and articlebase that I continue submitting on.

Once done correctly, posting in social network and social bookmarking sites can be a good link building strategy.

Penguin's off-site quality implementation placed a lot of pressure in us creating only high quality links. While I can manually create quality and relevant backlinks, the task is just too time consuming. You can always purchase links but make sure that the backlinks service is reliable.

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I used to hire in the beginning but now that I have the hang of seo I do all the linking myself.

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Here are some of the most common methods to get links through a campaign of link building , some are older, others are not as well regarded but all are still in use and are perfectly valid:

1 - Submission to web directories.
Submit your website to link directories has always been considered a basic element of a link building campaign. These links provide less value than that provided for several years, yet they are still useful but should be able to choose according to quality criteria.
There are also local directories or from specific subject and the general category, there are those who only accept links home page and those that require reciprocal link. The combination and the successful use of these will help generate the best results.

2 - Sending articles and press releases .
Submitting articles is another technique many years, while sending a directory is only once per site, the publication of articles offers endless possibilities. There are hundreds of article directories, including quite a few very good position and high quality.
Write attractive and relevant articles, including a biography of the author with one or two keyword optimized links to your pages and send them. Some SEO consultants prefer to stay with the higher quality directories, while others opt for mass submissions to hundreds of directories at once.
On the other hand, press releases can offer good connections and a sense of authority and brand for your website. Readers have more confidence in a press release than it would on a blog or an article, though, the number of press releases directories that accept HTML links with keywords in the anchor text is very limited so you have to look good.

3 - Comments on blogs.
The blogs are still one of the most popular on the web. Individuals, companies and organizations maintain their own blogs with regular content and quality.
Many blogs allow them to participate by commenting, find blogs in your industry and with a similar theme and identify those in which we work actively as a guest. The thing to keep in mind is not to exceed the thin line between the comment in a blog, which should be useful and relevant to the blog, the blog SPAM, considered black hat technique.

4 - Link to relevant blogs.
Another great truth about blogging is the community that is created around them. Links from blogs on the same subject offers a great opportunity to drive traffic to your website.
Try to link to other blogs related to your site and they have enough authority. Encourage your readers to visit that site. When the blogger check your statistics and find that you have sent quality traffic possibly win some new link or even invite you to collaborate. Just do not link waiting to be linked, do to improve the quality of your site and provide good content to your readers.

5 - Social media marketing .
The social bookmarking , social media sharing, video and content, are part of social media marketing (SMM) campaign. Can occupy a lot of time but it is so effective that it can generate viral interest in your blog, website, forum or publication. It is necessary to engage in social networking to create a true community around your website.
Also need to publish content to your social profiles and encourage users to follow. This will help you gain followers with what you will get increased traffic to your web pages.
You see, the link building is a key stop of SEO and should be considered as a continuous process if you want to enjoy the best results and that these are maintained over time. You can always find new ways of link building, these are just some of the most used.

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Hello,

I would absolutely agree with press releases but articles do not have the same impact as they once did.

What I would do instead is guest post on relevant blogs.

You can still use the big article directories but I would only give them unique content and not all the same article..

If I had to choose between the 2 I would pick guest blogging.....from an SEO standpoint and traffic...

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