[rhinos]

Hi

I am at the end of my $1 trial with Dotcom secrets & want to cancel. Does anyone know how i do this. I cannot find any info on the website & have had no answer from my support ticket(yet)

[Geordie John]

You need to cancel your recurring billing with Clickbank. There is a contact support link inside your Clickbank receipt if you still have it, otherwise go through your clickbank account for support.

[Joe Gilharry]

It is a lot easier just to supply a link for those who are just getting started:

Go Here:
https://www.clickbank.com/orderDetail.htm?clear=true

[rhinos]

Brilliant, easy when you know how. Thanks very much for your help

[raybal5]

Originally Posted by Geordie John

You need to cancel your recurring billing with Clickbank. There is a contact support link inside your Clickbank receipt if you still have it, otherwise go through your clickbank account for support.

I just recently did the above but just to be on the safe side I also went into my PayPal account and cancelled the recurring payment there as well.

Cancelling a subscription cancels all future scheduled payments of that subscription. A subscription can be cancelled up until three business days before the next scheduled payment.

• Log in to your PayPal account.
• Click Profile near the top of the page.
• Click My money.
• Click Update beside 'My pre-approved payments.'
• Click the name of the subscription you wish to cancel.
• Click Cancel.

If you don’t have a PayPal account, you should contact the merchant directly to cancel the agreement.

[abbe77]

I wonder why you wanted to cancel? I am asking becasue planning to join it as part of PIPS but am doubted now

[Patrician]

With many people they do not realize that no program will work unless they do. It doesn't matter which program it is.

They are expecting almost instant wealth without putting forth any effort - and when they don't see money within 30 days they give up.

Another thing that is common is that someone may over-extend themselves with the belief that just paying membership dues is all that is necessary to earn money, and they probably won't earn enough right off the bat to pay the next month's dues.

They can't afford to 'pay their way to so-called-success -- and nothing is ever going to happen by sitting back and waiting - you have to take aggressive action consistently over time to promote and develop your business -

I have watched it for 9 years and been on both sides of the fence as a member and as part of the administration. (and I learned my own lessons the hard way in this same regard).

* They Give up - And that is the same reason when you see it said that "95% of people fail at Internet business" - Why? Because they quit too soon without even giving it a chance.


Not saying the OP has any of the above issues - I am just saying -

NO PROGRAM WORKS UNLESS WE DO

[talfighel]

Originally Posted by rhinos

Hi

I am at the end of my $1 trial with Dotcom secrets & want to cancel. Does anyone know how i do this. I cannot find any info on the website & have had no answer from my support ticket(yet)

Cancel it if you need to but pay close attention to Empower Network and devote your life to it. It will pay off in a big way if you go "all in" and just promote your PIPS affiliate link everywhere you can.

[abbe77]

Yes I agree most give up but sometimes promises are so high and people try to convince newbie that they will surely make money within 30 days. Not all can invest $100-200 every month if they dont get back anything for 3-6 months. Its really disappointing for them and they finaly quit.

A question and waiting for an hinest answer
How much money needed before hand if I join PIPS with 5 affiliate networks and keep it at least 6 months from my own pocket without expecting any return?

[Patrician]

The only requirements to join PIPS are technical - those things required for any website.

1. A Registered domain name with the nameservers set to the host server. (under $10 a year)

2. A GVO/HostThenProfit affiliate membership that includes hosting for up to 4 domains, the ability to earn commissions, and a free autoresponder - ($10 a month)

ALL other programs are optional - that means you can join them in front (on the application) - you can join later - or you can not participate - it is entirely up to you and your budget. (and you can quit anytime - no contracts - just month-to-month)

The affiliate programs are how you earn money with your website business - so the more programs you can afford to join, the more commissions you will receive when you make a sale of PIPS -

Looking at it the other way, if you start small you have less going out of pocket during the time you have not yet done sufficient advertising and marketing to be seeing any commissions - then you can possibly re-invest anything you do make eventually back into your business, either for advertising or to add another program.

So you see the way PIPS is structured it is ideal for the newbie or person with limited funds, and it can grow with you if you want to develop it.

So again - there is no reason to speculate or over-extend yourself (or go into debt) - Very few people could not afford $10 per year and $10 per month to receive hundreds - if not thousands of dollars in free resources for members including free step-by-step training.

Right now the newest sites come with 300 articles included as well as the usual over 200 email follow-up messages that are pre-loaded in the free autorepsonder.

[abbe77]

Thanks for explanation Pat but if I dont join any one of 5 affiliate programs , still there any possibility that I can earn money by having domain, GVO and PIPS membership only? How?

[Patrician]

GVO is an affiliate program. When you join HostThenProfits to get the hosting, that includes the affiliate program -

So it would be small but you could still earn something while you learn.

Obviously more is better in this regard - but only if you can afford it comfortably.

[abbe77]

Waht you suggest about domain name? Do I have to follow any tips or strategy while selecting a domain name specially for this purpose?

[Patrician]

Please refer to Step 2 of our application at http://www.pluginprofitsite.com

Numerous suggestions for domain names are listed - and these can be just a guide for you to create your own if you want to -

It is best to brand your name or the niche - but not the end of the world if you do not.

The niches are 'home business, 'work at home', affiliate marketing, make money online, earn income from home, money making ideas, (various words like this)

So for example AbbeWorksAtHome.com, MoneyMakingIdeasByAbbe.com and like that.

[abbe77]

Finally submitted my application for PIPS
There is a question about affiliate id's , as right now I joined only 3 networks and entered the sponsor's id for the rest 2. I wonder if I can change those 2 ids later if I join the remaining networks?

[Patrician]

Contratulations! I will look out for it.

Yes of course - you will have an account profile and all you need to do is change any ID there to automatically correct your website and sales page.

[talfighel]

Originally Posted by abbe77

Thanks for explanation Pat but if I dont join any one of 5 affiliate programs , still there any possibility that I can earn money by having domain, GVO and PIPS membership only? How?

You need to be active in all. I would join ALL of them and become a paid and FULL member.

If you like to do things HALF way, then you are better off sticking with a job.

I would join all of the programs and then your job is to just advertise your PIPS affiliate link everywhere you can for a long time until you do get sign ups. This will help you earn residual income for years.

[Patrician]

I don't agree with you Tal and your thinking undoubtedly will discourage those of us who do not have that much money to begin with-

Better to start small than not at all.

[Jeff Casmer]

Hi Tal,

I would agree with Pat. Many people have started slow with one program that they can safely afford and build from there. I know you have stressed this before Tal but many people simply cant afford to join all 5 programs....

Thanks
Jeff Casmer

[abbe77]

Yes I m agree with Pat and Jeff. Instead of losing a lot of money without return for the first few months will be frustrating and disappointing. And chances are many people will leave this program for the very first or second month due to heavy investment.

I know new site will never get any attention and popularity during first 3-6 months. So I better to go slow and steady but consistently with the investment which I can easily afford even without any return for few months.

[abbe77]

What I understand about E-wallet of empowernetwork is that it process the payments. My question is even I did not activate it now, can I promote my affiliate and get money in my empower account (though I cant withdraw) or I MUST activate it to receive any comission from empower?

[Patrician]

You really should be addressing this question to Empower Network.

You can get a lot of advice and help here - including the answer to your question - but the best place to go is directly to the program - every website has a support/contact/helpdesk link on it.

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EmpowerNetwork - Copyright © Empower Network, LLC

[talfighel]

Originally Posted by abbe77

What I understand about E-wallet of empowernetwork is that it process the payments. My question is even I did not activate it now, can I promote my affiliate and get money in my empower account (though I cant withdraw) or I MUST activate it to receive any comission from empower?

You need to have everything activated. If your affiliate payment of $19.95 is not active, they will not be able to process your commissions or accept payments from future customers of yours.

[zmann]

Hi, On dec. 3 2012 I went to where I was told I would be ALL IN at Empower, which was the 15K formula, A week ago ALL IN is the Masters Retreat for $3500, Now at the end of the month they sent me a video about a new Masters Course to be ALL IN, They have the best training I have ever found, but I have to wait a month or two to get the Masters Retreat so that if I do get a sale I can I can make a serious commission, What is ALL IN ?
100% Commissions eventually, The Training alone would cost you over 15 grand elsewhere! Never give up as it can take months to see profits! Just like any collage, you
don't walk in the door on your first day and become rich! Keep Marketing your PIP and things will come, just stay committed ! To your Success!

[zmann]

Join what you can for now as you can always upgrade later, As a complete "newbie" to PIP, With Stone and Pats help I have learned more in my first two weeks than I have on my own for years ! I have this printed on my wall next to my computer to keep me motivated:

"LEARN>WORK>EARN" To me that is the Secret To Success!

[abbe77]

Originally Posted by zmann

Join what you can for now as you can always upgrade later, As a complete "newbie" to PIP, With Stone and Pats help I have learned more in my first two weeks than I have on my own for years ! I have this printed on my wall next to my computer to keep me motivated:

"LEARN>WORK>EARN" To me that is the Secret To Success!

Well said!!! I am also in training mode and learning alot. Hope that I will get some result soon

[talfighel]

Originally Posted by Patrician

I don't agree with you Tal and your thinking undoubtedly will discourage those of us who do not have that much money to begin with-

Better to start small than not at all.

Yeah, you are right Pat.

I took me a while to buy the $500 product so I know what people feel about not having enough money.

I have people on my team who passed $100 sales to me because they did not upgrade to it themselves.

The $1000 and $3500 are out of reach for a lot of people.

[NickyJonas]

Question: Does PIP on its own pay any affiliate income to affiliates, if so what percentage for one to keep advertising the Affiliate link, you obtain when you sign in. Or is it you only earn affiliate income from the 5 other products.

[Patrician]

PIPS is a FREE program - as such we don't charge you anything ever. Hence, we do not pay commissions. The money you earn comes directly from whatever affiliate programs you choose to participate in and are the potential source of 'multiple streams of income' you can earn from your free PIPS website.

[sehgal]

I want to join pips co-op. According to ur data, what are average no. of joinings one gets per month. any specific answers?

[Patrician]

There is no way for anybody to predict the future. There are many variables that affect ALL sales and especially on the internet - such as seasons, the economy and even the weather.

There is no data - and there are no 'averages' - it is the risk we all take when we pay for any kind of advertising or marketing.

What we guarantee is to show your ad in the rotator one time per cycle - so in that this is a 'cooperative', a cycle would represent all the members getting one ad per rotation through the whole group; and one time when you register, the bonus traffic program 25000 times. ("visitors/traffic") -

You can't have a business without advertising or marketing - you have to do it one way or the other. Many things can be done for free.

Only if you really can afford paid advertising should you consider this...

... and even if you can you should never 'put all your eggs in one basket' - that means NEVER 'rest on your laurels' and sit and wait to see what happens - you need to be very aggressive and consistent in promoting your business over TIME in as many ways as you can - no matter if you use the co-op or not.

[paulsteam]

Hi - long time reader, 1st time poster - I am NOT here to bash anything, but I'm wondering if anyone else is having issues with DotCom Secrets X?
Specifically using DCSX OUTSIDE of Plug In Profits?

for the PIPS system, I was just fine - got some leads, trial signups...But then I got to thinking i should promote DCSX standalone (sales video kicks butt imo)

Followed the autoresponder setup instructions, created follow up emails etc - I did everything exactly as outlined - I am not a super tech wizard, but i have my "fair share" of autoresponder experience...I tested my squeeze pages on diff emails, even set up a brand new email account (support said GVO will sometimes ban an email thta was previously unsubscribed)

Over and over and over, I kept getting emails from the company for a completely different product, and NONE of my testing showed up for my gvo - they were all from the main site, for a completely different product (viral secrets)...and none were my links

I contacted support back and forth and was told i was doing it wrong...

I ended up cancelling my trial order before they charged me...just bad vibes

anyone else have issues? All i know is that if i can't set it up correctly, 95% of people won't be able to...

[oceanlady805]

I'm not having any technical problems with DCSX, the problem I'm having is I didn't cancel before the trial period was up and $97 was charged to my credit card. That's fine -- one time! But this will be a recurring charge, and for the life of me I can't figure out what I would be paying $97/mo for???

The other problem is the website seems to have no "back office" for members so you can SEE what credit info you gave them, let alone the opportunity to cancel. When I go to "My profile" all I get is my own name... well, I KNOW THAT! Do you remember what you did to cancel it?

So, you, apparently didn't want to pay them $97/mo either (maybe not for the same reason), but if you can give me a clue what we are getting for this charge, I'd like to hear your take. I have no desire to start bad-mouthing them, etc. I just don't get it!
:confused:

[oceanlady805]

I'm glad I came upon this thread, but this was posted last year. I am also trying to cancel DotComSecretsX because I can't afford $97/month at this time. They make it difficult to cancel; there's no information on the website. Also, they may have used Clickbank in the past, but presently my receipt shows an order number that is not long enough to be a Clickbank number, and my credit card activity does not show the number.

I did submit a support ticket asking how to go about this, and will wait for an answer. In the meantime, I asked my credit card company how I could stop this, and the only way is to call it a "dispute" and ask them to block this merchant from taking any further "payments".

I also have to admit, that I do not see what I am getting for $97/month? It is basically another course of Online Marketing study, which is good, but PIPS does the same things for free, and a lot of the features are overlapping (same website host, GVO - which I am already using, etc.) I just don't get it. Why is it a recurring payment when $97 one time would be sufficient for a teaching/coaching program. I don't see where they are going to give you $97 worth of services every single month, for how long?

Anyway, I had to vent a little. Because I'm trying to put a lid on it and not find myself in a state of being overwhelmed with too many programs and businesses to learn at once. Thanks for any feedback. Am I the only one?

[Patrician]

Just keep trying to reach them every 24-48 hours until you get a response. On your bank statement there may be a toll free number you can reach them as well.

If it goes on to the point where you are billed & debited again, be sure to document all the attempts you have made to cancel without a response and ask for a refund.

*(With that said it is usually a matter of sheer volume - a program like DCSX probably gets 100 support requests a day at a minimum - this all takes time to process).

The fees are usually for participating in the program. It costs money to run a program - remember that affiliate programs do your customer service (staff) - not just for you directly but they support your sales - your customers and your transactions (staff and systems).

They pay for hosting and domains and have paid to create everything you see - all the graphics, forms, sales pages (copy writing), training materials, etc., on and on. They pay for technical support to keep all the systems running - think of the size with thousands of affiliate sites?

Then there is the concept in affiliate marketing that you are given permission to earn money from their intellectual property so that you don't have to spend all the money and time to create a program or product. This is definitely worth money to a program (and the affiliate).

Having said all that $97 a month is a pretty high ticket from where I sit! Even $50 I don't think I would go for it. I guess though once someone is making a few hundred to a thousand a month from a program they are happy to pay whatever the cost.

Anyway, sorry you don't like what is one of the hottest and most exciting programs around these days, from one of the most popular and respected marketers, Russell Brunson.

p.s. I found a phone number so make your approach multi-pronged - keep contacting the helpdesk 24-48 hours and keep calling.


Dotcom SecretsX

http://support.customerhelpdesk.org

Phone 208-323-9451


For older DCSX members they used Clickbank to join DCSX, and they could cancel through there: If you didn't use Clickbank to join DCSX, then you couldn't cancel there.

https://www.clickbank.com/orderDetail.htm?clear=true

[Patrician]

Another option:

Login to DCSX -- on the top right there is a text link that says "Check your Stats" and it will take you to the affiliate center here -

<<<http://successetc.hasoffers.com>>>

Or you can go direct to that link.

Then down the bottom of the left hand menu is the link to "Contact Support". This is a different support center to the DCSX Support Center.

[marcelr77]

I canceled it through clickbank

[DteSolution]

There was a OTO when signing up for DCSX which made the cost just under $50 a month. As a trial member you only got the first 30 days of training, it is a 90 day course, plus alot of training in the "Vault" Which you can keep going back to.

Russell has also just created a new tool to help promote the programs in PIPS, let me know if you like more info on it.

Having had a bricks and mortar business for a long time....the monthly cost to be in these programs wouldn't even pay the rent, not alone all the other expenses of having an offline business. This really is great opportunity, along with that comes a learning curve, a positive mindset, and commitment. Much Success to all.