[Graham Maddison]

Hi Guys,

Over the last couple of days, I have noticed some google page rank activity with my various sites. New sites have been indexed without any effort. my winning ways site is pr 1/10 - without any effort, but the biggest change is my main blog Make This Your Home Business - Blog.

I had a pr1/10 on here and was looking forward to jumping up. I consider I have good content on the blog and so cannot understand why now I appear to have been de-indexed altogether....no pr love at all!!!:confused::confused::confused::confused::con fused::confused:

My only conclusion, is that I have not been updating it as frequently as I used to, but to have no pr love at all......well I am totally confused if not frustrated.

Graham

[Kooza]

Hi Graham,

There was a new "public" update recently however it is important to know that PageRank for your sites is changing constantly, probably hourly. So the PageRank score that Google provides is pretty much useless as it is only made public about 4 times a year. The only thing you need to focus on are your rankings in the SE's, traffic and conversions.

PageRank is basically measured on the number of links pointing to your site and the weight of those links, apparently other factors come into it as well but back links play the biggest part.

Your blog which you mention hasn't been de-indexed, there are about 325 pages indexed in Google from your blog.

Updating your blog will not increase PageRank, getting more back links will.

PageRank is a lot harder to come by than it used to be, it seems Google has devalued the weight of a lot of links. I remember a few years ago now I had a PR5 site and all I did was reciprocal link exchanges.

All the best,
Mike.

[Graham Maddison]

Thanks for the feedback Mike, it is much appreciated.

I'm guessing that of late however, due to a number of slow loading urls when visiting my site the spiders may have timed out....just another thought. Anyway, I have removed a couple of offending urls not least because they were annoying Me let alone any visitors.

Thanks again.

Graham

[Jeff Schuman]

Graham,

Mike offers good advice. I have not checked my page rank in a long time. I used to use it as a measuring stick for who I would do reciprocal linking with, but not anymore.

Backlinks and traffic are the only real things that matter and page rank has no bearing on those.

[Kooza]

Originally Posted by Graham Maddison

Thanks for the feedback Mike, it is much appreciated.

I'm guessing that of late however, due to a number of slow loading urls when visiting my site the spiders may have timed out....just another thought. Anyway, I have removed a couple of offending urls not least because they were annoying Me let alone any visitors.

Thanks again.

Graham

Google Webmaster Tools is great for identifying any problems the bot might be having crawling your site.

Mike.

[KT52]

Hi Graham,
I have the same feeling too. I've been building backlinks everyday and I don't know why my tracffic rank went down so bad since last 2 weeks but my blog rank went up fine. I think I should ignore this for a while and keep focusing on building backlinks.

Take Care
Kha

[Matt Belock]

Its almost impossible to understand the Google algorithm. How it properly works. Just keep plugging away.

[Matt Helphrey]

I agree with Matt. We really don't know what exactly factors into page rank so it's best we not focus too much on it. Rather we should focus our energy more on traffic and converting our traffic.


Matt

[Kooza]

Originally Posted by Matt Belock

Its almost impossible to understand the Google algorithm. How it properly works. Just keep plugging away.

I think we actually know quite a lot about the Google algorithm and Google themselves are quite forward about sharing the major factors which influence rankings.

Google Librarian Central - Article 12/2005 - 1
More info on PageRank

Mike.

[mydeafdog]

Originally Posted by Matt Belock

Its almost impossible to understand the Google algorithm. How it properly works. Just keep plugging away.

yep keep building links
i got pr1 on a web directory homepage and pr1 on seven other pages and articles after the update.

[grumpyb]

So many theories and so many opinions
One thing that is IMO becoming apparent is that content is no where near a major factor than some would suggest.
I launched several new sites over past few months and made sure that 3 had 100% original content totally on topic and using the right key words at a reasonal rate
I place minimul Links on these sites just afew low PR blogs and the submit to Digg.
none of these sites that were indexexed quickly in google have fared well in the PR update.
A PR 4 on which I have added no new links for months dropped to a Pr 3 while the internal page sremaine at PR4
Another site a PR4 for which I have activley been adding links became a PR5
It seems to me that Links outweigh content every day.
I have seen so many sites drop in PR at the last update it would also be sensible to consider that the current formulae used by google has maybe changed substantially in favour of Links but maybe they have a new way of ascertaining the quality of those links.
I will continue to do both things ADD quality content and ADD quality Links
BUT IMO The more you think you know about how Google works The more I think we dont really know at all.

[Kooza]

Originally Posted by grumpyb

So many theories and so many opinions
One thing that is IMO becoming apparent is that content is no where near a major factor than some would suggest.
I launched several new sites over past few months and made sure that 3 had 100% original content totally on topic and using the right key words at a reasonal rate
I place minimul Links on these sites just afew low PR blogs and the submit to Digg.
none of these sites that were indexexed quickly in google have fared well in the PR update.
A PR 4 on which I have added no new links for months dropped to a Pr 3 while the internal page sremaine at PR4
Another site a PR4 for which I have activley been adding links became a PR5
It seems to me that Links outweigh content every day.
I have seen so many sites drop in PR at the last update it would also be sensible to consider that the current formulae used by google has maybe changed substantially in favour of Links but maybe they have a new way of ascertaining the quality of those links.
I will continue to do both things ADD quality content and ADD quality Links
BUT IMO The more you think you know about how Google works The more I think we dont really know at all.

If you read the article above about PageRank it is mainly focused on two things the number of links you have pointing to your site and the weight of those links. There is no mention of content affecting PageRank.

This is the major problem with PageRank is that people directly associate PageRank with search engine rankings. PageRank does play a major part but there are other factors which influence rankings as well.

The main advantage of using original content is you are not trying to compete with any other sites who are also trying to rank for the same piece of content.

Mike.

[Graham Maddison]

Update:

Google has given me back my pr1/10 yay

Graham

[Kooza]

Originally Posted by Graham Maddison

Update:

Google has given me back my pr1/10 yay

Graham

Must have been a bug with the toolbar, sometimes it doesn't load the PageRank. Once the update has been made it won't change until the next update. Also Google will apply a different PageRank to your domain with www. and without.