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Unread 3rd May 2009, 04:33 AM   #1
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Hello everyone,

I have been writting and posting articles to directories and also to my blogs, but there is something I am not quite sure of-

Can I post the same article to both article directory and my blog?

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Should I make the article to my blog different from the one I post to article directory?

Any recommendations please?


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Hi Christiana

Most will tell you to put a short version on your blog, then change it a little when you submit to each directory. After posting to my blog, I change the first and last paragraph when I submit to directories.

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I'm the same as Leon, I usually do a version for my blog which is shorter, then the full version for the article directory.

I've been playing a little with an article spinner, but can't say yet which is faster for me.

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Hello,

Thanks very much for the tips. I quite appreciate your contributions. This is a very big relief for me as I have been writting and submitting different articles for blog and directory. Thanks a million.



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Yep, I agree with Leon and Mark. I'd post a different version on your blog. I usually do a full re-write of a blog article and then submit that to article directories. I'm not sure what making the blog post shorter has to do with anything, though. Make sure to change the title and re-word as many of the sentences as possible. Use synonyms whenever possible.

A decent article changer I found is: Article Changer - Rewrite Your Articles FREE!. You'll have to go back through the changed version and make sure everything is grammatically correct and everything, but the average percentage of difference between it and the original is 30%. I'd still do further re-writing after that, though.

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why do you change the first paragraph? is is because of goolge's policy on duplicate content?

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If you are going to post the exact same article to directories, make sure the original article is posted on your blog for at least a few days and make sure Google has crawled your site since then.

I would still only post a summary of the article in directories so that you need to visit your site to read the full story.
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Originally Posted by Samuel Craig View Post

why do you change the first paragraph? is is because of goolge's policy on duplicate content?
Yes, the more unique versions of your article that's out there, the more can be ranked in search results. If all are the same, Google will only show one of them.

With having different versions of the same article, they all have a chance of being shown and bringing in traffic. The other factor is that the backlinks will count more if you have more unique versions.

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I only change the first paragraph, last paragraph and title and do fine with google rankings.

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Originally Posted by Devilfish View Post

If you are going to post the exact same article to directories, make sure the original article is posted on your blog for at least a few days and make sure Google has crawled your site since then.

I would still only post a summary of the article in directories so that you need to visit your site to read the full story.
I agree to the first part, but the second part I have to disagree. Most article directories require anywhere from 400 to 500 words per article. At least the popular ones do. I'm not sure how you could get a summary to be that long. If anything, I would do the complete opposite. I would post a summary on your blog and make them have to visit the full article at EzineArticles, for example.

But, as I said earlier, it's better for your blog if you post anywhere from 400 to 500 word posts. You'd be better off writing a blog post and then turning it into a more formal article for directories.

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Originally Posted by captivereef View Post

I only change the first paragraph, last paragraph and title and do fine with google rankings.
That's usually good enough. I'd say as long as you can get around 30% difference between the two, you'll be fine.

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I shoot for a 30% difference too. I think though the more unique you make it, the better off you are going to be.

It might be smart to write an article, post it to your blog, then rewrite it completely (title and all) and then post the other articles to the article directories using your keywords as anchor links and point them back to your blog.

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Originally Posted by Matt Helphrey View Post

I shoot for a 30% difference too. I think though the more unique you make it, the better off you are going to be.

It might be smart to write an article, post it to your blog, then rewrite it completely (title and all) and then post the other articles to the article directories using your keywords as anchor links and point them back to your blog.

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That's the tactic I use as well, or I link to my home page or something. The more unique the better for sure, but 30% minimum to be safe.

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Thanks Alan matter, you have provided useful ideas. It will help newbie for article writing and blog. I am interested in rewriting tons of articles from an original one but unchanging its content. then submit that to directory submissions. Remember when posting articles to the other different blogs, change its title, focus on building natural backlinks.

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Save your best content for your blog as ideally you want it ranking higher than the article site.

Make sure you have good quality articles for your primary and secondary keywords on the article sites and then send backlinks to them.

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Originally Posted by robertstr View Post

Thanks Alan matter, you have provided useful ideas. It will help newbie for article writing and blog. I am interested in rewriting tons of articles from an original one but unchanging its content. then submit that to directory submissions. Remember when posting articles to the other different blogs, change its title, focus on building natural backlinks.
Sure thing.

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I did not read all the posts but here what i think.

if you have an article directory on your site don't post your articles there, post your content (As a unique content) in your blogs, in your article directory try to have other webmasters to write for you, you can find article posted to your directory for free here
http://www.arabian-affiliate.com/Art...clewizard.html

but if you want to post articles to other article directories, your article need to be different from each other in each directory, other wise it will be duplicate content (duplicate content has only one meaning, your back link will be considered as one from the highest page, not as the number of pages you have posted your article in)
x link from duplicate content pages = 1 back link from the page with the higher PR

so it's wast of time.

you can have a wizard the rewrite your content

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Originally Posted by Mona Jensen View Post

Hello,

Please, I really would appreciate if anyone could recommend me an article rewriter program. I just got an offer from Free Traffic System to buy Magic Article Rewriter (42$). Is that a good offer?

Thanks a lot for any advice.

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I'm pretty sure it was cheaper than that when it first came out, but that's still a pretty good price. I've seen it in action, and it looks to do a really good job. Probably the best re-writer program around as most if not all aren't capable of half of what it does.

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Originally Posted by Mona Jensen View Post

Thanks a lot Alan,

I trust a Certified Proofreader know what is best.

Have a nice day!

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Thanks, Mona!

I could do a much better job manually re-writing an article compared to most programs. The re-writer advertised with the Free Traffic System is amazing, though. The capabilities far exceed anything out there thus far.

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Hey, but when using the free traffic system, how may words should you spin. Like how much of your article should you try and change? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by CJontheweb View Post

Hey, but when using the free traffic system, how may words should you spin. Like how much of your article should you try and change? Thanks.
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I recommend at least once every paragraph. If you can do more then all the better.

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Originally Posted by Samuel Craig View Post

why do you change the first paragraph? is is because of goolge's policy on duplicate content?
Most people have posted personal opinion, rather that cold hard facts.
I've shown this several times in the past in this forum.

THERE IS NO PENALTY FOR
DUPLICATE CONTENT ON
DIFFERENT SITES!



If there was a penalty, article marketing wouldn't work. We all know, it works
extremely well. Additionally, Google has reiterated this point in their webmasters'
blog too. Google says that you need at least a 30% difference in content on
your site to be considered as unique, and therefore indexable.

Editing first and last paragraphs to get a 30% difference is going to be very
hard work indeed. It would be much easier to rewrite parts of the whole article.

Let me ask the OP: What is it you want to gain from submitting articles to
directories?

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Glenn,
you are right that there should be 30% or more difference and it is generally known fact.
If you will post duplicate content into 10 -20 directories there is no problem at all.
But, from my experience, if you will do it with 100 or more directories, blogs, etc

You will have penalty from google probably in month or two.
Personally, i am rewriting my article every time by my personal tool i have made to satisfy my needs. And i do not have any penalty for years on more then 100 blogs i have
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The only "penalty" is that Google is only going to rank one of those articles for the same keywords, or rather, your articles will be competing with each other. Not that any of that really matters. Also, the backlink strength will be weakened for many of those duplicate articles, or just not counted at all. That's a proven fact and has been tested. Getting more unique versions of your articles out there will increase the number of backlinks you will receive.

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Glenn .... you are exactly right. People need to understand duplicate content.

It has nothing to do with having the same article on different web sites.

It refers to having the same content on the same web site but different pages of the same web site.

If you could be penalized for having the same content on different websites then other people could hurt your web site by putting your articles on their web site.

Webmasters used to create mirror pages of the same content on their web site only changing certain keyword phrases. This is duplicate content.

There is absolutely no concern about having the same article on different web pages.

You can read what Google has to say at Duplicate content - Webmasters/Site owners Help.

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