[Loridori4]

I was intrigued with this PiP system until I learned empower was one of the 5.

I quit empower after finding out from support that broken legs in your downline are NOT passed up to the next sponsor!

That there explains why the Daves will always be richer than anyone else in EN!

There are better programs that DO pass up members.

Is there an option to choose your affiliate sites?

[Patrician]

We have 5 programs in our core program - right now EN is one of them.
They are all optional except GVO/Host Then Profit which we use to host our sites.

After we build the site you can add whatever programs you want to your own domain (website) - however our core program does not change and will continue to include EN on our sales page.

If you don't want to participate that's fine - but every program in our core needs a valid, working ID so that your visitors are not scared away by error messages from invalid links.

You will see our application provides your sponsor's ID by default and you would either replace that with your own ID or leave it if you are not interested in joining the program.

[stone]

Hi,

I wonder if you can share the exact reply you received from support so I can investigate further.

Also, what are your favorite programs work well for you, and who DO pass up members as you indicate?

Best regards,

Stone Evans

Originally Posted by Loridori4

I was intrigued with this PiP system until I learned empower was one of the 5.

I quit empower after finding out from support that broken legs in your downline are NOT passed up to the next sponsor!

That there explains why the Daves will always be richer than anyone else in EN!

There are better programs that DO pass up members.

Is there an option to choose your affiliate sites?

[talfighel]

Lori,

The nice part in Empower Network is that once you have all the products yourself, meaning you bought them yourself, anytime someone in your personally sponsored team who has not purchased these themselves, the commissions are passed up to you.

I like that.

[worlok]

I dunno... my direct sponsor in on the leaderboards purely from blogging and he's making untold thousands per month, so I'm emulating him. He doesn't need these breaks because the guy is a leads/sponsoring machine.

[GomerMagtibay]

Hi Worlok,

I checked on the link in your signature and it led me to your blog at Empower Network. Great! You've got nice blog in there that tells us about UFOs. That made me think, maybe the direct sponsor you are talking about, the one that you are emulating in EN, is Justin Verrengia, and his Hippie Jedi blog. Is that correct?

I am not yet a member of EN and I am planning to join soon. The lucrative compensation they have for their members is somewhat attracting, but what attracts me most, is the opportunity to express myself through blogging. Maybe about my being a coffee addict.

You, guys, ROCK!!

[Mikaedi]

I Have wanted to be a part of PIPS but the inclusion of the Empower Network and the double take by Stone is a little concerning.
My point is! a while ago Stone had decided that EN would not be a part of PIPS..then a while later put it back into the system again.
The EN has a lot of bad press over the years..surely there must be programmes that would benefit PIPS and it's end users better than Empower Network
And dare I say the almost cultish type attitude of some Empower members..those that criticize the Empower Cult are called haters and losers and whatever other they can think of..

Just my 2 cents on EN..

Mikaedi

[Patrician]

Mike - I hear what you are saying -

However the fact remains that people are making big money from EN - real people -

Actually Stone has been a member for years and has tried several times to include it with PIPS - it just didn't fly because of the cost (I guess) and so he keeps trying. This last time you are referring to he realized it was a big mistake to remove it and put it right back.

I don't know - there is just a different mentality - in the past we have attracted a lot of freebie seekers and people that are not serious - therefore they are happy with $2.62 commissions for doing very little other than posing.

However over the years we have also managed to attract some really savvy, succcessful Internet marketers (and a few even super stars) and we wanted something for them. The other programs are all low-budget and personally I think it is a good idea to have a program that someone can earn serious money with.

I don't know what to say about the haters - except that I have watched from behind the scenes people's behavior and then sometimes read their hate posts somewhere - the people who have a problem are almost invariably people that want something for nothing and believe they are entitled to wealth without work - that someone else is responsible, namely anyone who has 'made it' like the Daves or Stone or a few others.

It is absolutely the truth that whether you pay $10 or $100 a month if you don't really engage with the program and aggressively learn and promote it, nothing is ever going to happen. People really think the money they pay for dues entitles them to a lot more than it actually does. Then when they don't see anything they pick up all their marbles and go home, pronouncing all sorts of evil things against innocent programs.

Not being a mind-reader I cannot say whether the Daves are evil or good - but I do know Stone for 10 years working with him and I know he is honest and hard-working - so I kind of have to give him the benefit of the doubt and if he says it is good, then I guess it probably is. I think it is normal to believe someone you know and respect/trust as opposed to anonymous people who want to say something is bad for whatever reason.

It shouldn't however be a deal-breaker @ PIPS - as very few people belong to all 5 programs no matter what they are -- so it would be quite fine to just not participate in EN but do the rest.

Do what you think is right of course...

[melvinsh]

I would look at a companies payment disclosure before making any decision. Some of them have them and it tells you percentage of people making money

[Patrician]

Good idea - and here is

Empower Network's Income Disclosure:
Empower Network: Income Disclosure

Disclaimers:
Empower Network: Affiliate Compliance Information

Terms and Conditions:
Empower Network: Terms of Use

[Jeff Schuman]

I see this thread is still alive so let me offer my 2 cents on Empower Network. We have written thousands of articles now for Empower Network blogs and I have really studied it and some of the systems like The Prosperity Team.

I give Empower Network 5 Stars. It is a great program and the fact they have done almost $100 Million in revenue in a little over 2 years is simple astonishing to me. David Wood uses a little rough language at times for my liking, but he is the real deal when it comes to having a passion for what they are doing.

The products are high quality as well. If someone does or does not fail in Empower Network it is 100% on them. The program success speaks for itself.

[xemxie]

[QUOTE=Loridori4;8864578]
I quit empower after finding out from support that broken legs in your downline are NOT passed up to the next sponsor! [QUOTE]
[QUOTE]
I wonder if you can share the exact reply you received from support so I can investigate further.

Also, what are your favorite programs work well for you, and who DO pass up members as you indicate?[QUOTE]

Loridori.... I'm very interested in your reply too...