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Forum: Copywriting 19th December 2014, 10:08 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 2,786
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Anyone ever do VSL in addition to written copy?

Back about 5 years ago I did a lot of "hybrids" and they did work. But these days I prefer exactly what Brian said. With a VSL you control the whole flow, but some folks would rather read than watch...
Forum: Copywriting 15th September 2014, 05:54 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 809
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Copywriter or Copywriter Plus?

I do it all for a price :) It works out great for clients especially if they just have a product but no clue on the whole picture. One stop shopping.

It's also very handy when you do your own...
Forum: Copywriting 13th July 2014, 09:34 AM
Replies: 32
Views: 1,754
Posted By Don Grace
Re: "Guarantees" and "offers" in selling copywriting services?

This is little different than a guarantee but I once did a "Put up or shut up" test. I wrote a letter free of charge for a very prominent "make money online" company. Turned into a 30k gig.

Now, I...
Forum: Copywriting 28th June 2014, 10:24 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,058
Posted By Don Grace
Re: The Case Against Specializing

I started as a specialist in one niche, and I agree. After a few hundred letters in the same niche it gets mundane and boring. I like writing for multiple niches now, I find if I feel challenged and...
Forum: Copywriting 20th June 2014, 01:12 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 789
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Kindle Mystery

I'll second Rachel Rofe, I know her personally. You can also check out Shira Gal, she did my book, not sure what she charges though but she does great work (We traded time and skillsets instead of...
Forum: Copywriting 10th June 2014, 04:35 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 1,382
Posted By Don Grace
Re: what i the fastest way to learn copy writing?

I'm with Elmo here... get to work. It's the same if you've ever skied or snowboarded... Many times a first timer gets fooled by their friends to take a lift to the top of a mountain.... Then they get...
Forum: Copywriting 30th May 2014, 12:03 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 1,313
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Content Strategies & Copywriting?

Whats next, poetry and nursery rhymes?
Forum: Copywriting 16th May 2014, 07:45 PM
Replies: 76
Views: 3,554
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Could I make a deal with a copywriter?

A great deal for everyone normally involves an upfront fee as well as royalties.

Why the upfront fee?

Because a copywriter has no idea if you're going to follow through and run massive...
Forum: Copywriting 27th April 2014, 06:18 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 4,098
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Writing Compelling Landing Page copy without hiring an expert copywriter

Oh good lord...

To the OP... You must realize (or not due to lack of experience) that a few of us here make kick ass livings writing copy exclusively, so the points made (As confrontational as you...
Forum: Copywriting 21st April 2014, 04:55 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,093
Posted By Don Grace
Re: "10 Lies Freelance Copywriters Like to Tell You"... Apparently I'm a liar, everyone.

^^ Andy, you think that $1250.00 is not cheap? Man that's DIRT CHEAP UNPROVEN NEWBIE RATES right there my friend.
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 14th April 2014, 09:57 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 788
Posted By Don Grace
Re: How To Protect Yourself From Copycats?

This is a prime example of human nature... "Most people will work much harder to keep someone from stealing 10K from you than to earn 10K"

Man you're creating a major distraction and time suck for...
Forum: Copywriting 14th April 2014, 09:44 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 728
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Good to great... (Help)

1- Time and practice.

2- Be picky about who you work with and only write for great products that you can get excited bout. That has been tantamount in my career.
Forum: Copywriting 13th April 2014, 01:28 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 847
Posted By Don Grace
Re: could i please have a couple people critique my sales page

First off get your own domain and hosting... Using a weebly subdomain screams amateur.

Make your margins 650 px, this looks like an email.

Change the gray fonts to black and use no more than...
Forum: Copywriting 11th April 2014, 08:29 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,205
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Eat me

They've got some great ads they run on the porn networks too, here's an article they did...

How to Advertise on a Porn Website | Eat24 Blog...
Forum: Copywriting 4th April 2014, 09:15 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 3,430
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Helping a homeless guy out...

That's awesome man! Inspiring! So I don't know if you're planning on any paid promotion but what about using PR Web? Or run some very targeted FB ads targeting people who support charities or...
Forum: Copywriting 31st March 2014, 09:13 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 883
Posted By Don Grace
Re: How to Hire a Copywriter? (diet guide sales page)

Look at it like this... You paid some schmuck $1500.00 to do a crap job. How many more $1500.00 lessons do you want to learn before you've spent more money being cheep than just doing it right the...
Forum: Copywriting 30th November 2013, 08:55 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 722
Posted By Don Grace
Re: How can I test my copywriting skills?

To use the shooting range analogy you mentioned... There is a huge difference between pointing a gun at a target and dry firing it compared to using live rounds. So no, you can't dry fire a sales...
Forum: Copywriting 11th November 2013, 01:48 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 5,240
Posted By Don Grace
Re: How Can I Earn $150/Day As A Copywriter?

$150 a day? Man you're selling yourself short. If you have the ability to potentially make someone a millionaire through your writing go far the stars.
Forum: Copywriting 5th November 2013, 10:31 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 2,336
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Need Some Money?

Great post, you know whats funny is I've been selling digital products for my clients and myself for many years... Recently I wrote copy for an ecommerce info product,

I've done at least 300...
Forum: Copywriting 23rd October 2013, 07:18 AM
Replies: 35
Views: 2,063
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Where do you copywriters find work?

I noticed you say you're a five start writer, what does that mean? Are you specifically a copywriter or an article writer? That's a huge difference right there.

That being said if you're a...
Forum: Mind Warriors 8th October 2013, 08:08 AM
Replies: 48
Views: 1,888
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Fat People Often Don't Do Too Well In Life??

If what you're stating had any truth to it I would not have $30MM in online sales under my belt. Sure, I've got a nice gut courtesy of Budweiser, and I did that all my self. But it has no bearing at...
Forum: Copywriting 26th August 2013, 04:30 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,331
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Are you a copywriter or growth hacker?

I find the design distracting with all the various font and background colors.
Forum: Copywriting 26th August 2013, 04:27 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 985
Posted By Don Grace
Re: It's Sooo Hard!

I hear ya, the first time I wrote for my own deal it bombed. And that was only my second bombing letter after about 100 winners at the time.

If you have a compelling story to tell though I've...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 20th August 2013, 07:11 PM
Replies: 49
Views: 1,193
Posted By Don Grace
Re: My First Click Bank Product Has Been Approved What's Next?

For the video script or the whole video? And what about the main letter? Was that part of the deal? Bottom line is it has no credibility.



I'm not just "someone" making a claim. That is my...
Forum: Copywriting 19th August 2013, 01:05 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,299
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Quieting that Negative Voice in your Head

I agree with Ray, when confronted with "That little voice" I think more about how I've helped others. Taking the focus away from me and on reflecting everything I've done to help clients and myself...
Forum: Copywriting 17th August 2013, 09:53 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 981
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Would You Do Me A Favor?

Hmmm would it be better to say "Just write better copy"? After all it's the script and not the medium you're referring to right?

I wrote one for a client in I.M. a couple weeks ago for a $200.00...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 24th July 2013, 01:32 PM
Replies: 41
Views: 1,309
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Gmail ISN'T Killing Email Marketing

I'm gonna put a message on my thank you page for gmail users to move my emails to the primary box so they get my stuff. After all, they optin for a reason so that will help make it easy for them.
Forum: Copywriting 17th July 2013, 03:29 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,447
Posted By Don Grace
Re: 6 techniques from rhetoric to supercharge your conversion rate (and why they work)

Good lord man, this reminds me of a few years ago a lady in my town was advertising a creative writing workshop. Sounded cool, so I signed up for a session.

There were 5 of us cramped inside her...
Forum: Copywriting 12th July 2013, 01:17 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 1,448
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Priceless coaching program

I wouldn't get offended by the process, because it's just a process that one guy might use that suits his or her business best. And yes, many people do want to talk on the phone first to determine if...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 11th June 2013, 01:30 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 885
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Products Claiming Magical Results

Logically we all know the basic formula... sell stuff online. But we do not buy logically, we buy emotionally with our lizard brains. That's why it works as it has for decades.
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 11th June 2013, 08:07 AM
Replies: 124
Views: 2,847
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Your Thoughts On No-Refund Policies Please

Hey Willie,

About 4 years ago I wrote the copy for a high end 2k product for a "gooroo" you know. In fact I think you mailed for us.

Anyhow it was one of the first products I know of to go...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 10th June 2013, 04:22 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 710
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Newbie Minefield

I disagree with a few comments about getting everything free and never buying information or hiring a coach...

Yes, just about everything there is to know about anything can be found for "free"......
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 7th June 2013, 04:54 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 938
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Ethics of creating product by rewriting others

Just realize there is pretty much nothing new in anything at all... just new ways of delivering a message with originality and better marketing. Do you think Tony Robbins created nlp? No way and he...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 7th June 2013, 12:23 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 647
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Creating an Ad Swipe

A swipe is just the email they send to their list. So you want two things to happen...

Subject line- This is just to get them to open the email so it has to be targeted to your market.

Body...
Forum: Copywriting 6th June 2013, 06:22 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 868
Posted By Don Grace
Re: How much should I disclose about myself? Should I even admit the really bad stuff?

I do it all the time because stories sell. But like a few said it has to be relevant to what you're selling. Sure, it's been done by many in IM (if that's your market)... but everyone's story is...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 15th May 2013, 10:21 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,621
Posted By Don Grace
Re: How To Beat The 95% Failure rate!

Failure is high because most folks treat their business like a hobby instead of doing the work. And it's not just online... Most people that open up bars and nightclubs fail (I used to tend bar)...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 14th May 2013, 08:33 AM
Replies: 84
Views: 2,316
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Just don't understand.....

That's actually a very good conversion, so it sounds to me like you need to build a back end, that's where the real money comes in.
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 13th May 2013, 05:31 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 751
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Looking for master coaching guarantee money making from affiliate etc.

So what you're saying is you put a value on your future and education at $500 bucks? And you want to put the risk on someone else so you don't have to take any responsibility for your own actions......
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 13th May 2013, 11:24 AM
Replies: 84
Views: 2,316
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Just don't understand.....

It sounds like you're not making any money because you can't afford paid ads. So I would question if you have a traffic problem or a conversion problem? Do you know your conversion rates? Even if you...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 20th April 2013, 11:18 AM
Replies: 66
Views: 2,673
Posted By Don Grace
Re: MLM and warriors

The bottom line is it's just another way to bring a product to market and earn commissions, that's it.

What's most important is you can look at ANY company and you'll find people making money,...
Forum: Copywriting 17th April 2013, 09:27 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 870
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Plain Sales Letter vs. Graphic Sales Letter: Who Wins?

Luke, yeah my math verbiage sucks :D

So 1.5% going to 3%
Forum: Copywriting 16th April 2013, 01:40 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 870
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Plain Sales Letter vs. Graphic Sales Letter: Who Wins?

I have split test this, a client a few years ago was doing a CB launch so he wanted to have those loud, annoying, multi-colored headlines ans sub heads all over the place like all the other vendors....
Forum: Copywriting 9th April 2013, 09:19 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 619
Posted By Don Grace
Re: AR Series Gurus - How fast do you get to pitchin'?

What's up Sean,

You already know my answer http://cdn.warriorforum.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Look at it like this, I'm not just warming them up, I'm selling myself by building a massive...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 7th April 2013, 10:10 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,136
Posted By Don Grace
Re: How much can you make from a 24,000 E-mail list?

You can make WAAYYYY more than that if you have a killer relationship with your list. I recently made 2k in a day from a 500 person list, and the open rate sucked because I sent the email late, and...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 7th April 2013, 10:04 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 966
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Email Marketing Struggles

Don't over complicate things, there's no rule about how long an email needs to be. It has one purpose... to sell the click.

Know your market better than you know yourself. Paint a picture of who...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 24th March 2013, 06:38 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 1,106
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Product ready, marketing campaign started and... No Sales

One thing you did not clarify is how much TARGETED traffic you've run to your offer. That's a big deal. If you only have 50 uniques that in no way means diddly squat.

Did the work of 10 experts?...
Forum: Copywriting 4th March 2013, 08:36 AM
Replies: 24
Views: 9,851
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Chris Haddad's Latest VSL...

Check out howtogethead dot com. (It ain't pg rated so careful where you watch)
Forum: Copywriting 19th January 2013, 05:59 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 882
Posted By Don Grace
Re: How do you go about picking and choosing clients to work with?

First and foremost is they must have a kick ass product that I can 100% get behind. Makes writing a breeze.

Then I prefer people I know, or know of, or someone I know knows because then I can come...
Forum: Copywriting 31st December 2012, 02:31 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 966
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Rockin in the new year copywriting style...

rock n roll baby (kick ass drum solo at 3:24)

YYZ - YouTube (http://youtu.be/jKBLSkN2sRk)
Forum: Copywriting 23rd December 2012, 06:23 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 1,209
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Merry Christmas to my Fellow Copywriters

Merry Christmas Mark and everyone else... And happy Festivus for the rest of us! (No lie, I actually have a Festivus pole:)
Forum: Copywriting 22nd December 2012, 04:33 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 5,973
Posted By Don Grace
Re: How To Make Money Off Copywriting?

Michael,

I can't speak for Steve but I bet the answer is yes.

I can however speak for myself... I have also spent right around the exact same number over the last eight years. And I still buy...
Forum: Copywriting 21st December 2012, 04:09 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 5,973
Posted By Don Grace
Re: How To Make Money Off Copywriting?

Good luck with that one Captain. Yes, the income is great... You have ZERO experience and think it only takes thirty days to learn, and then land high paying clients!!! Alrighty then... how exactly...
Forum: Copywriting 14th December 2012, 06:04 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,774
Posted By Don Grace
If you want a big time gig, don't do this...

Howdy folks,

I just got off the phone with a top marketer that has a ton of copy work to be done and no time to do it. But to get to that point took some steps...

As we were B.S.ing a bit he...
Forum: Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum 10th December 2012, 06:23 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 978
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Do you think squeeze pages actually work?

The real key is not to just get the optin... that's easy. The important part is to build the relationship and bond with your customers as the go to guy they can trust. And you MUST be sincere.
...
Forum: Copywriting 9th December 2012, 04:58 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 1,432
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Couple Quick Questions For Copywriters

I agree about the controls, they're annoying when you need to "relieve" yourself... A lot of times though you can click the middle of the video and it will pause.

I prefer the style Stansburry...
Forum: Copywriting 5th December 2012, 06:16 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 956
Posted By Don Grace
Re: Which five words would you choose?

Because
Look
Listen
Imagine
Effortless
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