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Someone still develop in joomla? Or wordpress kill them? What do you think?
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  • Profile picture of the author kevbo22
    They are both great. Wordpress certainly has more downloads however. I read that wordpress is better for blogs/small sites and Jommla is best for eCommerce and social networking. But I leave it at this: it really comes down to personal preference and your needs.
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  • Yes, we still work in Joomla and the response is just fine. It is important here to understand that the team of Joomla! has been most innovative and certainly of its kind, however, the decisions they took somehow don’t seem to be customer centric and rather it more or less points to what they want to build as part of the CMS.

    Wordpress, on the other hand, is adding amazing features every day and gaining much more popularity as compared to any other CMS.

    To conclude whether it is drowning or not is something that we shouldn't decide.
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  • Profile picture of the author wasim12378
    Wordpress is best now a days . and joomla is almost deas
    not good support forums
    not good extensions
    many things are paid

    so its almost dead
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  • Profile picture of the author yasar
    compare than wordpress joomla is a best one , its has a advacned options than wordpress , but wordpress is a easy to access and its developed by core php only, and lot of plugin avilable for wordpress and theme also

    So only wordpress beat joomla
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  • Profile picture of the author kavinsac
    Yes its dead. But Joomla is better than wordpress....
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  • Profile picture of the author FarNext
    Not dead.

    Joomla is not as efficient as Wordpress for SEO.

    The learning curve with Joomla is bigger as compared to Wordpress.

    The number of Joomla modules are far less as compared to Wordpress plugins.

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  • Profile picture of the author BarrickBecca
    Originally Posted by befamousb View Post

    Someone still develop in joomla? Or wordpress kill them? What do you think?
    Joomla was famous for E-Commerce purpose, but from the time WooCommerce is launched and people started making eCommerce website on WooCommerce, we have seen a decrease in joomla use. The reason is pretty simple, you can easily integrate WooCommerce with any WordPress website and it is as easy as A, B, and C.. Above all its WordPress at backend and it's so much user-friendly.
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  • Profile picture of the author jnimchynska
    Joomla, WP – the story is almost 10 years old, which is quite ancient if related to Internet sphere. The pace of development is measured in weeks or sometimes even days, so WordPress and Joomla can be called veterans of the web market. But I do not agree that either of them is dead. These biggest content management systems power practically the whole CMS industry (along with Drupal which is another popular choice). At cms2cms, they can provide with a forecast so one could experience the differences between the featured cms. You’ll only have to give them links to your Joomla site, download Connection Bridge, choose the entities, and care about nothing else. Additionally, you can test the service and move up to ten content pages and their related entities for free, using Demo Migration.
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  • Profile picture of the author juangarciamtl
    Yes is dead. most of the website designers that i know do the websites by code from scratch or they use wordpress or druppal
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  • Profile picture of the author lucyberrette
    No, not at all. No doubts, WordPress is the leading CMS but there are many people who are still using Zoomla and quite happy with that. In some cases, Zoomla is much better that WordPress, if you are familiar with the the technical part of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author asianfood
    Yes, I agree with you Joomla has also lots of modules, components and plugins to extend it’s functionality, But to be honest Joomla lacks documentation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yadav Poonam
    Not really. Its exist now however the demand of Joomla is low due to the maximum usage of WordPress and Drupal. As we are currently working on a very large project of Joomla so I must say that it is not dead.
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  • Profile picture of the author teampqt
    Yes, Joomla is dead.
    But I think Joomla is better than Wordpress. It has a lot of modules, plugins.
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  • Profile picture of the author magiclouie
    Joomla is a platform for more advanced users.

    I love wordrpess and so far, I can make almost any site using wordpress.
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  • Profile picture of the author nbatioco
    What's Joomla?

    LOL, kidding aside, I tried joomla a couple of times, 4 or 5 times I guess, but I never ever fall in love except for WordPress.

    I rather create it from scratch or used WordPress.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Blaq
    In the past year there have been countless articles predicting the fall of Joomla!. These blog posts have focused on the market share Joomla! has lost over the past five years to WordPress. Most of the articles cite Google Trends as the evidence that Joomla! is on its last leg and the death of Joomla! is imminent. While the data from Google can be disturbing to the developers and users of Joomla!, the death of Joomla! is far from the truth. As with anything you read on the internet, you need to do some fact checking to get to the truth. We set out to investigate some of the harshest critics claims:



    Joomla releases and updates are poor because of volunteers:

    Joomla! is the world's only 100% volunteer CMS - there is no paid staff for Joomla!. This has defined Joomla! since day one and has created one of the world's largest CMS communities. 2016 has been a very active year for Joomla! with two major version releases - 3.5 and 3.6 and a possible third, 3.7 before the years end. If you have a problem with the release schedule then you can volunteer to make it better. This is why volunteers are great - They make the project stronger!

    Joomla's marketing is pathetic:

    Joomla! has never had an aggressive marketing campaign, but neither have any of the other top open source CMS's. Joomla! does have over 193 worldwide user groups that meet regularly and promote the CMS. Joomla! also hosts an annual World Conference that focuses on world-wide coverage. In the past three years, the World Conference has been in the USA, Mexico and India and in November 2016 the World Conference will be hosted in Canada. In 2016 Joomla! branched out and started promoting itself at several PHP conferences and Hostingcon Global with a fully volunteer staffed expo booth.

    GLP License leads to piracy:

    Joomla's GPL license is part of its Open Source initiative. Third party developers that are worried about the GPL license obviously have not looked deep enough at how the license works. All the Joomla! code must be GPL, but any extra JavaScript, CSS, etc can be fully copyrighted. In fact, piracy of Joomla! products is less an 0.1% compared to music or movies. We live in an age where you must understand piracy of software as a fact of life.

    Security Issues:

    While Joomla 1.5 and 2.5 did have some issues, the 3.0 series has addressed all the past issues and the security strike team has been on top of the game rolling out all security patches within 72 hours of discovery. Hosting companies agree, Joomla! has been and still is one of the most secure open source CMS's.

    One Click Upgrade:

    The backward compatibly issue of Joomla 1.5 > 2.5 was a serious wake up call to the project. While the 2.5 > 3x series was not just one click and does require a few documented extra steps, Joomla! has vowed to be as backward compatible as possible in its future releases. One thing to keep in mind is that in order to implement new technology change must happen.

    Ease of use:

    One thing that has plagued the CMS is the ease of use compared to WordPress. This is a serious misconception. Joomla! started as a CMS, whereas WordPress started as a Blog. In fact, WordPress is still just an extendable blog platform -- not a full feature CMS. Of course, Joomla can be more complicated to learn, but that is part of what makes it a true CMS. In 2015 Joomla! assembled a UX working group and has already started rolling out UX updates with Joomla 3.6. Later this year, Joomla! in a partnership with OSTraining will provide free online training videos that will help novice users learn Joomla! in a matter of hours. This partnership should make Joomla! easier to understand and help to attract new users.

    WordPress is better than Joomla:

    This in itself can be attributed to front end users. It is estimated that 70% of WordPress users never touch a line of code. Ask most PHP programmers and they will tell you that WordPress is a complete mess of code as a CMS. Joomla! has a robust API and uses the MVC standard favored by PHP developers. Ray Selby has a perfect analogy:

    "Saying that WordPress is better than Joomla! because 25 times as many sites use it is like saying that VW Golfs are better than Maseratis because more people drive them. So what? Actually, it's like saying that cars are better than trucks, Windows is better than Linux or oranges are better than apples. They are different tools for different purposes."

    Summary:

    Using terms like fall, dead or death attached to Joomla might as well go for all CMS's, as the market share shrinks for sites actually needing a full CMS. The advancements of online webbuilders have definitely made a huge impact on static based sites and will continue to push the limits of publishing a website with no training. Of course, there will still be a need for custom programmed sites and CMS's - this is where Joomla and other CMS's like Drupal and WordPress will continue to succeed.

    The latest Joomla! release - version 3.6 is out now and contains over 400 updates and features.
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  • Profile picture of the author blackli0n
    Joomla is dead because many of the top developers and userbase went elsewhere. If you're a high-level developer who knows exactly why Joomla fits your needs, then use it. If you're not a high-level developer then you will always need help to do things, and Wordpress has far more people able to help you than Joomla. Keep in mind that I started off as a Joomla fan and ultimately converted away from it because Wordpress (and it's community) is so much better in many ways. Joomla is really bloated and confusing for many people. You would think that Joomla supposedly holds the advantage in complex setups but still. Wordpress does that better (using extensions).

    So what would you rather do? Start with something complex like Joomla off the bat? Or start with something simpler like Wordpress that has the option to get complex only when you need it? It becomes easy to see why everyone went with Wordpress. Even large shopping e-commerce sites use Wordpress. Because when the easy stuff is made even easier, it's likely the hard stuff will be MUCH easier. And for Joomla...well, they make even the easy stuff HARD.
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    • Profile picture of the author toysoldier80
      Originally Posted by blackli0n View Post

      Joomla is dead because many of the top developers and userbase went elsewhere. If you're a high-level developer who knows exactly why Joomla fits your needs, then use it. If you're not a high-level developer then you will always need help to do things, and Wordpress has far more people able to help you than Joomla.
      Well said. I never used Joomla before, heard about it many times, but I never thought about using it. Sounds like an interesting platform, and when compared with WP it turns into a debate that goes back years.
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  • Profile picture of the author VerdinaNET
    Joomla is not bad in any kind but it's not secret that more and more people use wordpress. Some still use joomla but as wordpress is developing faster and faster the trend will stay.
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